ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: mc1316 on December 24, 2012, 10:30:56 am
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I know a similar question was answered previously, but please bare with me and answer this one. As a very general estimation, how difficult is it, in comparison to the effort required in ATAR, is maintaing a H1+ average?
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Without knowing how to look for answers by searching, I would say getting a H1 average is damn near impossible.
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I've heard that an average of 75% is somewhere around an ATAR of 95.
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^Damn from this forum I thought getting an H1 average was the norm if you put in a bit of effort lol.
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Effort and luck. Mine dipped below 80 this semester because i absolutely bombed the econometrics exam. Examiner decided to be mean and madr the exam totally different from the last 3 yrs.
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I would say getting a H1 average is damn near impossible.
No, that's not true. If you put in the effort, you'll be rewarded (99% of the time at least).
I've heard that an average of 75% is somewhere around an ATAR of 95.
Not really true either IMO. I didn't get a 95 atar, i've got an 80 something average so far for my first year studies. For my subjects at least in science they did not consist of many 'application' type solving problems in exams, those which are used to sort out people doing various vce subjects in the state.
^Damn from this forum I thought getting an H1 average was the norm if you put in a bit of effort lol.
I guess a bit of effort is difficult to define. Some people work 15+ hrs a week/ have a social life and manage to pull a h1 average. Others put all their effort into their uni work. The key is knowing how to organise your time (i'd invest in a good diary!).
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No, that's not true. If you put in the effort, you'll be rewarded (99% of the time at least)
I think you missed my point.
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I think you missed my point.
lol
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I think this is a bit of a silly question. There is no definitive answer to this. There are no short cuts in maintaining a H1 average. For most people, you need to be on top of your work, be up to date, constantly revise. It isn't easy. If you are one of the exceptions which take less time to do all of the aforementioned, there is still the challenge of being able to be familiar with the expectations of all of the subjects that you do and being able to allocate/prioritise your time effectively. I know from experience, the way I study for most subjects has to be tweaked for other subjects because the expectation for that subject is higher and therefore I need to allocate more time to that subject. Sure, there might be one or two subjects during your degree where you will get a H1 easily (as a result of cramming, highly reliant on wrote learning). But you can't with most subjects. The expectation of University is a whole different ball game to VCE. The two can't be compared IMO. Some of my friends who got a 98 ENTER have had to extend their science degree by an extra year because they haven't been able to make up for their failed subjects. Some of my friends who got high 80's for their ENTER are now on their way to doing postgraduate medicine. There isn't any correlation.
My general answer would just be: It's very difficult for some and not as difficult for others because of what I've mentioned.
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(Nearly) Impossible =P
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I've heard that an average of 75% is somewhere around an ATAR of 95.
If I had to quote figures without all the qualifying "but it depends on..." comments, then these are exactly the numbers I would estimate.
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How can you maintain a H1 average unless you get a H1 in all subjects?
One H2A and you're dead :)
Unless of course OP meant a 75% average, which in fact is a different thing altogether and an order of magnitude easier than a H1 average.
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You can get an H1 average without getting all H1s...
Source; me
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You can get an H1 average without getting all H1s...
Source; me
Well, it depends on what you classify as a H1 average? If you say that an average of over 80 is a H1 average then yes, you can keep a H1 average without getting all H1s...
But, if you classify a H1 average as a perfect gpa of 7.0 (which is what a H1 is worth) then it is obvious that you would have to get all H1s to maintain that 7.0 gpa.
Hope that helps :D
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Well, it depends on what you classify as a H1 average? If you say that an average of over 80 is a H1 average then yes, you can keep a H1 average without getting all H1s...
But, if you classify a H1 average as a perfect gpa of 7.0 (which is what a H1 is worth) then it is obvious that you would have to get all H1s to maintain that 7.0 gpa.
Hope that helps :D
I'm quite sure a H1 average and a 7.0 flat GPA are two very different thing.
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As above, those are two completely different things.
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I'm quite sure a H1 average and a 7.0 flat GPA are two very different thing.
Correct me if I am wrong, but (at least in the context of medicine, as gpa is not given at melbourne ordinarily) H1 average is a 7.0 GPA. As the last page of this pdf of GPA calculation procedure from GEMSAS (makers of GAMSAT) show: http://www.gemsas.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/GEMSAS-GPA-guidelines.pdf.
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No, that's not how it works. Go read the GPA sticky in the health sciences board for an explanation
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An H1 average is quite difficult to manage (my average is way below an H1 - Over my 4 years at uni I've only gotten two H1s, but also a 77, 78 and a 79). One of my friends almost always gets H1's though, so it's hard to tell.
During your first two years, you will be able to get decent marks, but third year (in my case) is a completely different story. One of my friends managed an H1 average by doing third year over two years. I'm doing a similar thing over my masters year this year, since I failed a subject last semester and only scored a 65 and a 56 in another two (I did manage to get a 71, 74, 77 and 80 as well). This year I'm hoping for high 70's in all the subjects I do, and hopefully >70 in my thesis. In semester 1 2014, I would like to manage an H1 in both subjects, since there's no exam.
In order to be accepted into PhD, you need >75 (my supervisor said an H1 is really required). I've sort of given up on a PhD, I just want to finish my masters with a reasonably good score.
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An H1 average is quite difficult to manage (my average is way below an H1 - Over my 4 years at uni I've only gotten two H1s, but also a 77, 78 and a 79). One of my friends almost always gets H1's though, so it's hard to tell.
During your first two years, you will be able to get decent marks, but third year (in my case) is a completely different story. One of my friends managed an H1 average by doing third year over two years. I'm doing a similar thing over my masters year this year, since I failed a subject last semester and only scored a 65 and a 56 in another two (I did manage to get a 71, 74, 77 and 80 as well). This year I'm hoping for high 70's in all the subjects I do, and hopefully >70 in my thesis. In semester 1 2014, I would like to manage an H1 in both subjects, since there's no exam.
In order to be accepted into PhD, you need >75 (my supervisor said an H1 is really required). I've sort of given up on a PhD, I just want to finish my masters with a reasonably good score.
That's crazy... best of luck to you.