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Title: Bound reference
Post by: Strawberrry on February 08, 2014, 08:09:02 pm
Hi guys, where can I find more information about bound references for the exam?

What can and can't I use as my bound reference? Can I use spiral books?

Thanks in advance  ;D
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Einstein on February 08, 2014, 08:48:25 pm
As long as theirs one spine and no loose pages :)
Hope this helps, just scroll down to mathematics ;)

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vcaanavigator_web.pdf
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Shadaura on February 08, 2014, 11:27:45 pm
yes, spirals are fine. My teachers had always said no perforations but i just used the marbig spiral notebooks. Some of my class mate ended up binding two books together with duct tape last year. Just make sure everything is secure because our examiner person did shake tests last year.
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Billion on February 08, 2014, 11:30:21 pm
I won't bother making another thread.
However, what happens if you have an exercise book, and you run out of pages for your reference book, are you allowed to stick two books together? And what would be the best way about doing so.

Is a 196 page a4 exercise book the largest you can get?
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: ealam2 on February 08, 2014, 11:34:35 pm
I thought spirals weren't allowed?  ???
Or maybe they are as long as they don't have perforated pages.


Billion: Yes you can stick two books together. I just cut out the cover of one of my old used exercise books and use that cut out as a single spine to stick the two books together by taping it at least three times, making sure it's all stuck and when shaken won't be loosened.

Yeah I think 196 pages for A4 exercise books should be the largest you can get.
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: IndefatigableLover on February 08, 2014, 11:37:25 pm
I won't bother making another thread.
However, what happens if you have an exercise book, and you run out of pages for your reference book, are you allowed to stick two books together? And what would be the best way about doing so.

Is a 196 page a4 exercise book the largest you can get?
Thanks  :)
You can stick two books together but make sure that it's really secure (duct-taping might not work in this case depending on how many thick your books are so maybe Officeworks is your best bet on binding two books together).

And you can get more pages than that Studymate Premium A4 - 240 pages but I wouldn't think you'd need that many pages for your reference to be honest..

EDIT: Beaten by ealam2
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Shadaura on February 08, 2014, 11:41:59 pm
I thought spirals weren't allowed?  ???
Or maybe they are as long as they don't have perforated pages.


last i checked perforations weren't mentioned on the vcaa guide. i had perforations last year and i was fine. it's better safe then sorry though. spirals are definately allowed though, all my classmates had them but they were annoying because the metal would bend and catch with my other spiral notebooks making some of the pages tear when i opened it. composition books worked well but they are on the more expensive side
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: ealam2 on February 08, 2014, 11:46:51 pm
But aren't perforations pages that can be detached easily so then technically they're not allowed?

And haha sorry for the wrong info, Billion.
IndefatigableLover, didn't know you could get 240 pages exercise book.  :o

I used normal tape last year when I stuck a 192 pages exercise book with a 128 page exercise book and it stuck though I had to tape it several times.
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: IndefatigableLover on February 08, 2014, 11:48:38 pm
last i checked perforations weren't mentioned on the vcaa guide. i had perforations last year and i was fine. it's better safe then sorry though. spirals are definately allowed though, all my classmates had them but they were annoying because the metal would bend and catch with my other spiral notebooks making some of the pages tear when i opened it. composition books worked well but they are on the more expensive side
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vcaanavigator_web.pdf
On Page 6 it reads:
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Your bound reference must not include:
• pages or parts of pages that can be detached from the
bound reference during the examination
With perforated pages it means that it can be detached therefore they cannot be used for your bound reference. On Page 4 in this bulletin (pretty old but it's VCAA anyway) and they say:
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Q. Can my students use a bound reference with perforated
pages?
A. No. The perforations mean that pages can be easily removed
and there is a potential problem in the examination room

EDIT:  Beaten by ealam2 again LOL
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Shadaura on February 08, 2014, 11:52:14 pm
whoops sorry, i guess i was lucky then
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Billion on February 09, 2014, 12:06:55 am
Thanks Indefatigable and ealam!  :)
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: ealam2 on February 09, 2014, 12:08:57 am
Haha, no worries Shadaura.  :D

IndefatigableLover: Don't worry your responses are way more detailed and accurate than mine, hehe.

You're welcome, Billion! :)
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: Shadaura on February 09, 2014, 12:10:39 am
i sure hope i didnt confuse anyone haha
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: alchemy on February 09, 2014, 11:41:07 am
I thought spirals weren't allowed ???
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: ealam2 on February 09, 2014, 11:45:19 am
Hi alchemy! :) Yeah, thought that too. Not really sure about spirals but I'm using the bound exercise books just to be sure.
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: IndefatigableLover on February 09, 2014, 11:49:37 am
I thought spirals weren't allowed ???
Hi alchemy! :) Yeah, thought that too. Not really sure about spirals but I'm using the bound exercise books just to be sure.

From the same document that Einstein mentioned:
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Specifications for bound reference
• The bound reference must be in book format of A4 size
or smaller when closed.
• The number of pages is not specified.
• Pages must be permanently bound and securely
attached to the spine.
• There must be a single horizontal or vertical spine.
• The bound reference may be:
– a textbook
– a securely bound lecture pad
– a permanently bound student-constructed set of
notes without fold-outs
– an exercise book.
• The form of binding is not specified but it must be
secure, and pages must not be readily detachable or
designed to be removed. Binding can include cloth, glue,
staple, spiral or comb binding
I think generally when you have a spiral comb they have perforated pages but you can get spiral bound books without them (E.g Officeworks) so that may be why most teachers say not to use spiral bound books for your references.
Title: Re: Bound reference
Post by: ealam2 on February 09, 2014, 05:15:12 pm
Ooh, okay thanks IndefatigableLover!  :)