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Title: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on July 28, 2014, 04:29:13 pm
Hi guys,
We aren't able to service this thread like we used to for now.
In the meantime, feel free to help each other out (as you have been).

If you'd like to speak to someone from unimelb, check out the contact details here: http://students.unimelb.edu.au/stop1
There are options to email, call and even live chat online.

--unimelb
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ninwa on July 28, 2014, 06:39:16 pm
(Verified, this is actually UoM)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Aaron on July 28, 2014, 06:49:44 pm
It's definitely nice to see a uni taking the time to visit AN to answer questions/provide support. :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: geminii on July 28, 2014, 07:16:02 pm
Hi UoM,
So glad you're here to help us and answer questions!!
I have a question - with the Biomedicine Course, what is the minimum you need to get in? I think I heard somewhere that you need something like 99.80 to be guaranteed to get in, but what is the minimum? Does it change every year?
Thanks so much!  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: jinny1 on July 28, 2014, 07:18:54 pm
Does melbourne uni offer free access to microsoft office to students?? I'm jealous of people in other unis that get free office 365 :(
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: hobbitle on July 28, 2014, 07:32:32 pm
with the Biomedicine Course, what is the minimum you need to get in?

From http://bbiomed.unimelb.edu.au/prerequisites:
2015 Minimum ATAR: 96.00 (guide only)
2014 Clearly In: 98.95
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: chasej on July 28, 2014, 07:34:05 pm
Wish you guys offered more undergrad options like double degrees.  >:(
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bangmythit on July 28, 2014, 07:46:15 pm
Ok, I have a question that me and a few of my peers really want to know, and when we have asked in the past, we get turned away or our question isnt answered.
First I just want to say that I fully agree with and understand you guys promoting doing a bachelors degree first, and then if you dont like it/really liked it/want to retrain/get a vocational degree, you go on to your post-grad. And I will admit that for almost all post grad courses, Melbourne would be my number 1 preference.
But what I want to know is, how come in your undergrad degrees, you have to do four to six breadth?
I support the notion that some people might want interdisciplinary study, or might not be too sure if the course they enter is for them, but how come the number 4 is a strict minimum, and the number 6 the maximum (except for some situations I know of where you can do more for pre-engineering).
 
I mean, heaps of people from my school are choosing and have chosen Monash over Melbourne, for some of the following reasons. One scenario is when people are sure of what degree they want to do, but they want to do more than 6 breadth ( Monash allows 8 ). Some students want to major in a field outside their degree (Monashs allows you to do this), without having to choose one or the other, or needing to do a post-graduate course. Some may not be sure what they like so have done 2 or 3 level 1 units from a different faculty at Monash, then decide that what they learn within their primary faculty, is what they really like, and quit breadth all together. On the other end of the spectrum, some people really like their area of study and do not want to go outside of it, so they go to Monash because they know they don't have to do any breadth at all if they don't want (though many do for at least a subject or two).
You see a few people who go to the University of Melbourne on this site who ask the same question: "whats an easy level 1/2/3 breadth" simply because they view breadth as a hurdle, and they just want to focus on their degrees primary areas of study. Granted, that is a waste of fees, but people still do it anyway. If you guys want to keep harping on flexibility, and the chance to do a broad undergrad, "depth and breadth" as I have heard, you seriously need to lift the stringent requirements on having 4-6 breadth with so many at x level.
Anyway, the question is: why four to six breadth? I understand why you make it mandatory, even though for reasons outlined above I disagree.
I still think you guys are one of the best universities by the way, and your courses are top notch. It's just the things that I just spoke about which has turned off me and some of my peers.
Cheers
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Aaron on July 28, 2014, 08:11:59 pm
Does melbourne uni offer free access to microsoft office to students?? I'm jealous of people in other unis that get free office 365 :(

free Office 365? La Trobe doesn't get that either. We get the student discount ($99 for a 4-year subscription). Anyway if you're interested, the link's here > http://www.itsnotcheating.com.au/
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: jinny1 on July 28, 2014, 08:22:53 pm
free Office 365? La Trobe doesn't get that either. We get the student discount ($99 for a 4-year subscription). Anyway if you're interested, the link's here > http://www.itsnotcheating.com.au/

UWS and ANU get it, i'm sure there are others too though.

http://www.uws.edu.au/currentstudents/current_students/using_uws_online_systems/student_advantage

Melbourne uni please....
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: chasej on July 28, 2014, 08:46:58 pm
UWS and ANU get it, i'm sure there are others too though.

http://www.uws.edu.au/currentstudents/current_students/using_uws_online_systems/student_advantage

Melbourne uni please....

Would be a useful thing for unis to offer, but $100 over four years isn't that bad of a deal really. Like $100 for a whole degree is good compared to what a textbook for one unit costs. Apparently it also includes 1TB of storage, not that bad at all.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Hancock on July 28, 2014, 08:51:52 pm
Ok, I have a question that me and a few of my peers really want to know, and when we have asked in the past, we get turned away or our question isnt answered.
First I just want to say that I fully agree with and understand you guys promoting doing a bachelors degree first, and then if you dont like it/really liked it/want to retrain/get a vocational degree, you go on to your post-grad. And I will admit that for almost all post grad courses, Melbourne would be my number 1 preference.
But what I want to know is, how come in your undergrad degrees, you have to do four to six breadth?
I support the notion that some people might want interdisciplinary study, or might not be too sure if the course they enter is for them, but how come the number 4 is a strict minimum, and the number 6 the maximum (except for some situations I know of where you can do more for pre-engineering).
 
I mean, heaps of people from my school are choosing and have chosen Monash over Melbourne, for some of the following reasons. One scenario is when people are sure of what degree they want to do, but they want to do more than 6 breadth ( Monash allows 8 ). Some students want to major in a field outside their degree (Monashs allows you to do this), without having to choose one or the other, or needing to do a post-graduate course. Some may not be sure what they like so have done 2 or 3 level 1 units from a different faculty at Monash, then decide that what they learn within their primary faculty, is what they really like, and quit breadth all together. On the other end of the spectrum, some people really like their area of study and do not want to go outside of it, so they go to Monash because they know they don't have to do any breadth at all if they don't want (though many do for at least a subject or two).
You see a few people who go to the University of Melbourne on this site who ask the same question: "whats an easy level 1/2/3 breadth" simply because they view breadth as a hurdle, and they just want to focus on their degrees primary areas of study. Granted, that is a waste of fees, but people still do it anyway. If you guys want to keep harping on flexibility, and the chance to do a broad undergrad, "depth and breadth" as I have heard, you seriously need to lift the stringent requirements on having 4-6 breadth with so many at x level.
Anyway, the question is: why four to six breadth? I understand why you make it mandatory, even though for reasons outlined above I disagree.
I still think you guys are one of the best universities by the way, and your courses are top notch. It's just the things that I just spoke about which has turned off me and some of my peers.
Cheers

Hate to break it to you, but a social media team from UoM does not speak on behalf of the institution. Regardless of whether or not you or your friends from high school believe that breadth courses are a valid design choice for a degree, they are here to stay. There are numerous reports / discussions about the validity of breadth courses and their implementation on both this site and the internet.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: jinny1 on July 28, 2014, 08:56:57 pm
Would be a useful thing for unis to offer, but $100 over four years isn't that bad of a deal really. Like $100 for a whole degree is good compared to what a textbook for one unit costs. Apparently it also includes 1TB of storage, not that bad at all.

Would be a useful thing for unis to offer, but $100 over four years isn't that bad of a deal really. Like $100 for a whole degree is good compared to what a textbook for one unit costs. Apparently it also includes 1TB of storage, not that bad at all.

It's a good deal, i'll probably be getting it next year. But i like getting freebies!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lexitu on July 28, 2014, 09:05:32 pm
This is a really neat idea! @unimelb
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on July 28, 2014, 09:23:58 pm
hey, one quick question, is it possible to do commerce and then postgrad physiotherapy or optometry?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on July 29, 2014, 09:06:32 am
So, the team from 13 MELB'll be online in an hour, but I thought I'd jump in and get a few of your questions answered in advance. Also, thanks to everyone for being so welcoming!

AceVCE777 - As hobbitle said, the minimum ATAR for 2015 is 96.00. This means that you'll need to at least get this to be eligible to be considered (unless you fall into relevant Access Melbourne categories). The clearly-in will vary each year based on the volume and standard of applicants. The clearly-in for the group that started this year was 98.95, meaning that everyone who got this score or higher and met the prerequisites received an offer, and this may go up, down or stay the same for 2015 entry. Take a look at http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/undergrad/1504-bachelor-of-biomedicine to see the different scores, hopefully it'll be a bit clearer after checking that out, but let me know if you need further clarification.

bangmythit - Minimum breadth requirements are designed to ensure that everyone has a basic minimum of interdisciplinary experience, and four subjects allows for this without compromising any of the other core degree options while still giving a meaningful breadth experience. This is obviously one of those things that is going to be very different from university to university, and Melbourne's made the decision that this minimum level of cross-discipline exposure is a priority for us within the undergraduate curriculum. The maximum requirements ensure that no more than a quarter of the degree is from external disciplines and that there's enough room to allow for all major sequences  and core subjects. Obviously this second point is more of a concern in highly structured degrees like Biomedicine than in Arts or Science, but it's important to have consistency. Breadth requirements are reviewed regularly though, so happy to pass the feedback on, it is one of those things that Academic Board have very lengthy discussions about when the topic arises. TL;DR: We want a strong focus on cross-discipline study at undergrad without accidentally breaking our degree structures.

chasej - I know it can be frustrating that the same options aren't available across all universities you're interested in, although if you've got a specific pathway in mind we can chat about how to most closely structure your studies to take a similar amount of time and give you similar knowledge. It's not always possible, but some degree pathways do allow for you to complete an undergrad and postgrad within a similar time period to the more traditional double degree.

yazza - It is possible, although you'd want to sit down with a course advisor to make sure you picked the correct subjects for both Physiotherapy and Optometry. Basically, you can use your breadth to take the relevant prerequisite subjects, although it means you'll need to devote most of your breadth choices to completing these prerequisites. During Academic Advice Day, before you start first year, a course advisor will be able to plan this out with you in more detail. More info on prerequisites: Doctor of Physiotherapy, Doctor of Optometry.

Everyone interested in Microsoft Office - The discounted licence is the closest you'll find at this stage, but again, happy to make a note and pass on the feedback. Aaron's suggestion of http://www.itsnotcheating.com.au/ is probably your best bet at the moment though.

- Carl
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ForeverSquishy on July 29, 2014, 09:44:34 am
Hey UoM, really nice to see you taking the time to answer questions

I'm curious:
I wan to use the access Melbourne program to get into a bachelor of arts degree, studying law.
I know it says I need an ATAR of 78 to be guaranteed access.
However, since I'm using SEAS, does that drop to 68, or is it still 78?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on July 29, 2014, 09:56:51 am
Hi it's Miriam here with Bronwyn from 13 MELB. We'll be here til 4pm to help answer any questions you may have.

ForeverSquishy- If you are eligible for Access Melbourne under the rural area or disavantaged financial background, you need a 78.00 or higher to gain guaranteed entry in 2015 (plus meet the English prereq). More info on Access Melbourne here.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: YellowTongue on July 31, 2014, 10:58:39 am
I'm thinking of doing a Bachelor of Music. Do you guys rent out instruments to students, (especially Brass instruments) or would I need to supply my own instruments?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: atar100 on August 01, 2014, 09:38:48 am
For a bachelor of science, how many different sciences do you have to do?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Special At Specialist on August 01, 2014, 12:31:52 pm
For a bachelor of science, how many different sciences do you have to do?

There are 37 majors to choose from. You can see them here:
http://www.bsc.unimelb.edu.au/majors
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: atar100 on August 01, 2014, 12:51:19 pm
Thanks! I guess I was wondering if there was any enforced diversity with regards to science subjects I.e. Can I study just chemistry or do you have to do other sciences too?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: atar100 on August 01, 2014, 03:17:04 pm
Awesome, thank you, that's really useful! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uni_student on August 02, 2014, 09:45:45 pm
I'm considering transferring from monash health science to unimelb science next year and am wondering about the criteria for obtaining credit for my subjects. I'm doing health science, so there are not equivalent subjects at unimelb. Could I get credit for my health science subjects as breadth?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ForeverSquishy on August 04, 2014, 10:55:28 am
I'm back XD
I want to do Law, but I don't know what Law there is to do at Melbourne (E.g. Business, Legal Practice, etc. *Got those off of VTAC*)
And I cannot find anything on VTAC: I doubt Melbourne isn't doing ANYTHING to do with law next year.
Thanks guys ^_^
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LeviLamp on August 04, 2014, 12:51:10 pm
Law at Melbourne is a graduate/postgraduate course. You can do a Juris Doctor or Masters of Law, but not an undergrad course.

It's worth noting that there ARE several undergraduate law-based subjects you can take as breadth, Arts or Commerce units, such as Principles of Business Law, Law in Society, Taxation Law, Public Trials, Work and the Law, Competition and Consumer Law etc.
The range is large enough to complement your degree; I know a few people who are doing Criminology or Politics majors with a side of Law breadths in the BA! If you want an undergraduate law degree, however, Melbourne isn't the place to go.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: chasej on August 04, 2014, 05:04:52 pm
I'm back XD
I want to do Law, but I don't know what Law there is to do at Melbourne (E.g. Business, Legal Practice, etc. *Got those off of VTAC*)
And I cannot find anything on VTAC: I doubt Melbourne isn't doing ANYTHING to do with law next year.
Thanks guys ^_^

For your information, only a bachelors of law will qualify you to be a lawyer at undergrad level. The other courses like bachelor of business law or b. of legal practice, give you skills related to the field of law but DO NOT qualify qualify you to become an actual practicing lawyer.

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: rhinwarr on August 04, 2014, 05:36:20 pm
Can you still be offered a Chancellor's scholarship if it is not your first preference?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: chasej on August 04, 2014, 09:51:44 pm
The other way to become a qualified lawyer (apart from LLB/JD) is the Diploma in Law

http://www.lpab.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lpab/legalprofession_prospective_students.html

Such a scheme doesn't exist in Victoria so I didn't mention it.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 05, 2014, 11:21:58 am
Hi, it’s Miriam and Bronwyn from 13 MELB here to help with your questions today! Here’s some answers to ones that came up during the week:

I'm thinking of doing a Bachelor of Music. Do you guys rent out instruments to students, (especially Brass instruments) or would I need to supply my own instruments?

We do, there's a whole bunch of information on how this is done and what conditions there are on the hire at http://conservatorium.unimelb.edu.au/current/loans.

For a bachelor of science, how many different sciences do you have to do?

Special at Specialist's answer is a great place to start. Within these majors there's sometimes further specialisations, but these give you a good snapshot. You will have to do some broader sciences, particularly in first year (as Seinfeld pointed out), although from second year your studies will be far more focused in your primary area of interest. You can also take a look at a sample study plan to get a clearer idea.

I'm back XD
I want to do Law, but I don't know what Law there is to do at Melbourne

Law at Melbourne is taken as a postgraduate degree via the Juris Doctor (JD), so you'd do one of the more general undergraduate degrees first, then apply for the JD in your final year. There are subjects offered by the Melbourne Law School as breadth for interested students as others have said, but to get your legal qualification here you'll be looking at the JD.

I'm considering transferring from monash health science to unimelb science next year and am wondering about the criteria for obtaining credit for my subjects. I'm doing health science, so there are not equivalent subjects at unimelb. Could I get credit for my health science subjects as breadth?

The best place to start is by using our Credit calculator to find out if you're likely to get credit for your Monash subjects. The calculator gives an indication of how many credit points may be awarded for a subject within a particular University of Melbourne course. The definition provided on the Future Students website states “Credit (advanced standing) for completed tertiary studies may be granted if any of the previous studies are comparable in content, equivalent in standard and suitable to be included as part of the course.” This calculator is only a guide, as you can only apply for Advanced Standing once you have been made an offer. There are different possible outcomes for an Advanced Standing application, for instance a subject may be partially recognised or general credit may be awarded towards a course/study area. You can visit the Science Student Centre website for more details about the application process and possible outcomes.

Can you still be offered a Chancellor's scholarship if it is not your first preference?

If you are eligible for a higher preferenced course and receive an offer for that course, no. You'll get one offer for your highest preferenced eligible course through VTAC (see "Getting your Offer"). We do sometimes have spaces available via negotiated offers which open after first round have been made, but it's best not to count on this. As Nikoli said, you get a chance to change your preferences after results are released, so this is always an option if you need to adjust the order before first round offers. You can get more info on Chancellors Scholars Program here.
Title: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uni_student on August 05, 2014, 12:08:08 pm
Thanks for your reply! I looked on the credit calculator and there are no health science subjects on there. Furthermore, I can't find any equivalent Melbourne subjects. Does this mean I can gain credit as breath units? Why are the outcomes for advanced standing where no equivalent subject exists?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 05, 2014, 02:22:10 pm
Thanks for your reply! I looked on the credit calculator and there are no health science subjects on there. Furthermore, I can't find any equivalent Melbourne subjects. Does this mean I can gain credit as breath units? Why are the outcomes for advanced standing where no equivalent subject exists?

Not a problem! Subjects outside the Credit Calculator will still be considered in an Advanced Standing application, but they will be assessed on a case-by-case basis. To get an idea of which University of Melbourne subjects may be similar to what you have already studied at Monash, you can view our Handbook: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 12, 2014, 09:57:57 am
Hi All, Miriam and Bronwyn from 13 MELB are here again to provide you with answers between 10am and 4pm. Feel free to post your questions!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: geminii on August 13, 2014, 11:00:13 am
Hi Miriam and Bronwyn,
Just about the Open Day coming up on the 17th of August, what time does it start and what time does it end?
And if we are not in year 10 yet (year 9), can we still come?
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Ballerina on August 13, 2014, 01:49:11 pm
Is there published information comparing the statistics of different undergraduate majors? Such as average GPAs within the major, demographic data of students in different majors, later employment, etc?

Is there published information indicating the minimum GPA/SGPA that someone had to receive in order to be offered a postgraduate position in terms of supply and demand? For example, honours in neuroscience may require a minimum of 70%. But due a smaller number of available positions compared to a larger number of students applying for neuroscience honours, the lowest SGPA from a cohort of neuroscience honours students may be 86%. I understand that these values fluctuate on a yearly basis and are only a rough indicator.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: YellowTongue on August 19, 2014, 06:05:45 am
With your Bachelor of Music, if I were to major in Music Performance, would I be able to have lessons/be assessed on multiple instruments, or would I have to focus on the one instrument for the duration of the course?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 19, 2014, 10:07:55 am
Hi everyone, it's Bronwyn & Miriam here from 10am-4pm today! We'll be answering your questions shortly. In the meantime, we'd like to share the Unimelb Open Day wrap-up including videos and photos from Sunday!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 19, 2014, 10:18:40 am
Hi Miriam and Bronwyn,
Just about the Open Day coming up on the 17th of August, what time does it start and what time does it end?
And if we are not in year 10 yet (year 9), can we still come?
Thanks  :D

We’re sorry we weren’t able to answer your question in time for Open Day! Everyone is correct, that all were welcome to attend. We hope you were able to come along and explore campus! If you did miss out, the Open Day website has lots of photos, videos and information session recordings from the day: https://openday.unimelb.edu.au/ There will be plenty more Future Student events coming up later this year and next year, you can check out this link for any upcoming campus events that might interest you!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on August 19, 2014, 11:18:26 am
Hi I'm currently a first year Bcom student and I'm interested in undertaking a concurrent diploma in mathematical sciences. I have read the guidelines and seen some of the study plans on the Maths department website, but I'm interested in fast tracking the diploma and I'm wondering if there is anyone I can speak to, to help me plan my course. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 19, 2014, 11:37:52 am
With your Bachelor of Music, if I were to major in Music Performance, would I be able to have lessons/be assessed on multiple instruments, or would I have to focus on the one instrument for the duration of the course?

Hi YellowTongue,

The instrument you audition on is the instrument you would get lessons/be assessed on. You may audition for two instruments (two separate auditions), although if successful, you will only be made an offer in one.

After your first year you can apply to study a second instrument alongside your Main instrument (Minor Music performance). Applications for second study are considered individually and offers are made based on ability and instrument requested. Certain instruments are encouraged due to requirements for the orchestra and early music ensembles. 

The Bachelor of Music is flexible in that students can also join other ensembles if they wish to still play another instrument that is outside of their main instrument group (for instance, a Piano player may audition for String Ensemble if they want to play violin also).

Miriam
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 19, 2014, 11:55:19 am
Hi I'm currently a first year Bcom student and I'm interested in undertaking a concurrent diploma in mathematical sciences. I have read the guidelines and seen some of the study plans on the Maths department website, but I'm interested in fast tracking the diploma and I'm wondering if there is anyone I can speak to, to help me plan my course. Thanks.  :)

Great question! If you are looking to fast-track your degree, (such as finishing 350 points in 3 years), enrolment overloading rules will apply. According to the Science Student Centre website, you will only be permitted to commence an overloaded program of 62.5 points if you have an average in your first year of 70% (H2B) with no failed subjects.

You can book an appointment with a student adviser at the Commerce Student Centre to have a chat with you about fast-tracking your degree and studying a concurrent diploma. They'll give you all the information you need, and help with planning your course.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 19, 2014, 11:58:46 am
Is there published information comparing the statistics of different undergraduate majors? Such as average GPAs within the major, demographic data of students in different majors, later employment, etc?

Hi Ballerina,
This information is usually not published and I was unable to find anything that would break down data to different majors that could provide this insight. The best I could find was information about careers on the respective Faculty websites such as Bachelor of Commerce http://bcom.unimelb.edu.au/about/careers



Is there published information indicating the minimum GPA/SGPA that someone had to receive in order to be offered a postgraduate position in terms of supply and demand? For example, honours in neuroscience may require a minimum of 70%. But due a smaller number of available positions compared to a larger number of students applying for neuroscience honours, the lowest SGPA from a cohort of neuroscience honours students may be 86%. I understand that these values fluctuate on a yearly basis and are only a rough indicator.

Thanks!

This information is also not published as it changes from intake to intake and can be confusing more than helpful. However if you contact the relevant Student Centre directly, they should be able to provide you with a guideline of what GPA you need to achieve to be offered a place.

As you have mentioned, the GPA required to be offered a place can change from year to year due to supply and demand. As a guide, most courses would require a minimum of 70% GPA (sometimes lower depending upon the amount of places available) to be assessed and to be offered a place it can usually be 75% or more.

- Matt
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Ballerina on August 20, 2014, 08:29:46 am
Thanks! If anyone is interested, Fyrefly posted an interesting link about employment rates and starting income values for UoM and other universities.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/education/the_degrees_of_unemployment_universities_e3nDZ8x89ziuXsEdNMOz9J


Science is second last ahahahah.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Ballerina on August 20, 2014, 02:37:14 pm
Yup! Melbourne's employment rates are lower than quite a few Victorian universities, but that may be because more undergraduates have to seek postgraduate positions. It's really hard to compare, which is why I was hoping for published information somewhere. Some of that data is solid though, and The Good Universities Guide is a great source.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: MathsNerd203 on August 25, 2014, 12:49:32 pm
Hi Miriam and Bronwyn  :)

I'm looking into doing a Bachelor of Music/ Diploma of Mathematical Sciences, followed by a Master in Secondary Teaching.

I'm a bit confused about the choice of subjects available to teach.

Your website says:
Quote
To be eligible for the Master of Teaching (Secondary) you must have completed disciplines within your previous studies that satisfy the requirements for two learning areas.

Does that mean that if I study a Bachelor of Music and Diploma of Mathematical Sciences, I will only be eligible to teach Maths and Music, or can I study to teach other subjects during the Master degree, such as Physics or Biology?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: hwilome on August 25, 2014, 03:56:11 pm
Hi UoM, just a quick question about University of Melbourne's I.T/Computer Science courses:
Does any of these two courses offer Software Security? Something like the disassembly, PE formats or malware code analysis?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: IndefatigableLover on August 26, 2014, 09:14:47 am
Hi UoM, just a question in regards to gaining credit across different universities. So if I was doing an extension subject at Monash (say MUEP Maths), would I be able to gain credit for this if I were to do university at University of Melbourne (since my school is located close to Monash compared to UoM) even though I'm doing the extension program at Monash?
If yes, what degrees would this apply to (more or less, would it apply to Biomedicine)?

If not then does that mean I have to do UMEP Maths instead?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rishi97 on August 26, 2014, 09:31:30 am
Heyyy UoM :)

I was wondering, what atar score do you need to get in biomedicine if you are from an under represented school and a Kwong Lee Dow Young Scholar?

I would looovee to get into UoM so hope the atar required is not too high
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: IndefatigableLover on August 26, 2014, 09:59:06 am
Heyyy UoM :)

I was wondering, what atar score do you need to get in biomedicine if you are from an under represented school and a Kwong Lee Dow Young Scholar?

I would looovee to get into UoM so hope the atar required is not too high
I'm pretty sure that it's an ATAR of 90 though that's subject to a quota for Biomedicine  so don't bank on it (like it's not 100% if you get over 90 due to the quota).
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 26, 2014, 10:03:32 am
Hi everybody, thanks for your questions during the week! We’ll have answers for you shortly. Miriam and I will be here between 10 and 4 today.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 26, 2014, 10:18:38 am
Hi UoM, just a quick question about University of Melbourne's I.T/Computer Science courses:
Does any of these two courses offer Software Security? Something like the disassembly, PE formats or malware code analysis?

Hi hwilome,

Although there are dedicated software security subjects at the postgraduate level, there aren’t any in undergrad.  In saying that, though, there are components of a few different subjects that tackle computer security – in the third-year Computer Systems subject, for example, there’s a module on system security and cryptographic protocols. ITS courses also offer numerous opportunities for student research projects on software problems that take your interest, which can be good opportunities to explore software security in more depth.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 26, 2014, 11:12:34 am
Heyyy UoM :)

I was wondering, what atar score do you need to get in biomedicine if you are from an under represented school and a Kwong Lee Dow Young Scholar?

I would looovee to get into UoM so hope the atar required is not too high

Hi Rishi97,

We'd love to have you are at UoM too! IndefatigableLover is correct - the 90 ATAR score is guaranteed for Kwong Lee Dow Scholars from under-represented schools. It's important to make sure that you meet the course prerequisites & have all the correct applications in. There is also a quota for Biomed, which may restrict the amount of places we have on offer.

We encourage to also submit a SEAS application (these close on Tuesday 7 October at 5pm), so you can then be considered for scholarships and other Access Melbourne categories.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 26, 2014, 11:44:50 am
Hi UoM, just a question in regards to gaining credit across different universities. So if I was doing an extension subject at Monash (say MUEP Maths), would I be able to gain credit for this if I were to do university at University of Melbourne (since my school is located close to Monash compared to UoM) even though I'm doing the extension program at Monash?
If yes, what degrees would this apply to (more or less, would it apply to Biomedicine)?

If not then does that mean I have to do UMEP Maths instead?

Hi IndefatigableLover,

Great question! The University may award credit (Advanced Standing) for study undertaken at other tertiary institutions, as long as the subject you have completed is equal in content & standard to those taught at the University of Melbourne and are relevant to the course you wish to enter.

You can check the University’s Credit Calculator as a guide to the Advanced Standing you might receive. If you can’t find your subject in the Credit Calculator, your subject will be assessed on a case by case basis to see if credit will be awarded.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 26, 2014, 03:14:06 pm
Hi Miriam and Bronwyn  :)

I'm looking into doing a Bachelor of Music/ Diploma of Mathematical Sciences, followed by a Master in Secondary Teaching.

I'm a bit confused about the choice of subjects available to teach.

Your website says:
Does that mean that if I study a Bachelor of Music and Diploma of Mathematical Sciences, I will only be eligible to teach Maths and Music, or can I study to teach other subjects during the Master degree, such as Physics or Biology?

Hi MathsNerd203,

Sorry for the delay while we researched the answer to your question! While in most cases Master of Teaching (Secondary) students can take a maximum of 2 learning areas, there is scope within the course for students to acquire a third learning area as an elective. More detailed information on course structure can be found in the handbook entry. For definitions of each study area offered, you can check out the course brochure.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rishi97 on August 26, 2014, 03:19:52 pm
Hi Rishi97,

We'd love to have you are at UoM too! IndefatigableLover is correct - the 90 ATAR score is guaranteed for Kwong Lee Dow Scholars from under-represented schools. It's important to make sure that you meet the course prerequisites & have all the correct applications in. There is also a quota for Biomed, which may restrict the amount of places we have on offer.

We encourage to also submit a SEAS application (these close on Tuesday 7 October at 5pm), so you can then be considered for scholarships and other Access Melbourne categories.

- Bronwyn

Thanks for the reply :)
How hard/easy is it to transfer into another course if we wanted to?
For example, if I don't get into biomedicine straight after yr 12, am I able to go into the bachelor of science course and then transfer after a couple of months?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 26, 2014, 04:03:16 pm
Thanks for the reply :)
How hard/easy is it to transfer into another course if we wanted to?
For example, if I don't get into biomedicine straight after yr 12, am I able to go into the bachelor of science course and then transfer after a couple of months?


Not a problem Rishi97, we love to answer questions!

Most courses offered at UoM are available for mid-year intakes (e.g. if you’d like to transfer into another course after 1 semester of tertiary study), however unfortunately due to the rigid course structure of the Biomedicine degree, it’s not possible to transfer into Biomed halfway through the year. Although it’s hard to give estimates because standards vary from year-to-year, mid-year entry is generally more competitive compared to start year intakes, as there are limited places available. Here’s some information on the entry standards for 2014 domestic undergrad mid-year entry to give you an idea (and here’s mid-year entry info for international undergrad students).

We're now signing off until next Tuesday, so if you'd like to speak to someone in the meantime about entry options into Biomedicine, feel free to have chat with 13 MELB or submit an enquiry with our Future Students experts. Hope you have a great week!

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on August 27, 2014, 02:20:06 pm
Hi Miriam and Bronwyn  :)

I'm looking into doing a Bachelor of Music/ Diploma of Mathematical Sciences, followed by a Master in Secondary Teaching.

I'm a bit confused about the choice of subjects available to teach.

Your website says:
Does that mean that if I study a Bachelor of Music and Diploma of Mathematical Sciences, I will only be eligible to teach Maths and Music, or can I study to teach other subjects during the Master degree, such as Physics or Biology?

Hi MathsNerd203, we have just received some more information from you in regards to Master of Teaching (Secondary) learning areas.

Students need to complete subjects in their undergraduate degree that meet the requirements of two learning areas. This is because the Master of Teaching (Secondary) doesn’t students about the disciplines (ie. students are expected to enter the course with some background knowledge).

The available learning areas and requirements can be viewed online.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Sanguinne on August 29, 2014, 07:18:18 am
If I apply for seas under categories 1 and 3 and provide the relevant supportig information, does it mean it is guarenteed i get into biomedicine if i have an atar over 95?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: keltingmeith on August 29, 2014, 01:23:22 pm
Howdy UniMelb, hope all is well!

I have a friend who is possibly interested in science communication, and was wondering if UniMelb offered any post-grad course that is relevant to the field? I tried a quick google search, but couldn't find anything, thought you lovely people could help me out. :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: JackSonSmith on August 29, 2014, 03:38:54 pm
Hello,

I was considering doing the Bachelor of Commerce and majoring in either Finance or Econometrics. I was wondering, would I struggle if I haven't completed VCE Economics or Accounting?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: 12AM on August 29, 2014, 04:41:23 pm
Hello,

I was considering doing the Bachelor of Commerce and majoring in either Finance or Econometrics. I was wondering, would I struggle if I haven't completed VCE Economics or Accounting?

Thanks

I may not be the official melb uni account, but I'll try and answer this anyway.

Within the commerce degree, as far as I am aware, there is no major of Econometrics. Instead there is an Economics major in which you take econometrics subject(s). There is of course a Finance major available.

First year economics requires no previous knowledge of the subject. Further economics subjects build upon what is taught in previous years. Additionally, Finance definitely doesn't need VCE accounting. Many students within the science faculty, for example, choose to take it as a breadth subject without having taken anything related before.

As long as you are a capable mathematics students at VCE level, you shouldn't have any concern doing either major.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 02, 2014, 10:27:34 am
Hi everyone, hope you’ve had a great start to your week and to Spring! It’s Bronwyn and Miriam here today.

To kick us off, here are our answers to your questions over the past week:

If I apply for seas under categories 1 and 3 and provide the relevant supportig information, does it mean it is guarenteed i get into biomedicine if i have an atar over 95?

Hi Sanguinne,

That’s right, guaranteed entry into Biomedicine is available! If you are eligible for Disadvantaged financial background, and/or from a rural or isolated area, have satisfied the course prerequisites and achieve an ATAR of 95 or above, you will get guaranteed entry into Biomed for 2015. You can access the guaranteed entry checklist here. Make sure that you submit your SEAS application via VTAC by 5pm on Tuesday 7 October 2014 in order to be eligible for Access Melbourne!

- Bronwyn

Howdy UniMelb, hope all is well!

I have a friend who is possibly interested in science communication, and was wondering if UniMelb offered any post-grad course that is relevant to the field? I tried a quick google search, but couldn't find anything, thought you lovely people could help me out. :)

Hi EulerFan101,

It doesn’t appear there’s a specific course available on science communication, however there are plenty of subjects within various post grad courses that your friend may be interested in studying. For instance, the Master of Science has a subject called Science Communication or the Master of Environment offers the major Governance, Policy and Communication.

To find all options that may interest your friend, try entering key words into the Course Search tool to find degrees that match your friend’s study interests. Once you’ve found possible courses, you can then use the University’s handbook to further search specific subjects/study areas on offer. Hope that helps, and happy course hunting!

- Bronwyn

Hello,

I was considering doing the Bachelor of Commerce and majoring in either Finance or Econometrics. I was wondering, would I struggle if I haven't completed VCE Economics or Accounting?

Thanks

Hi JackSonSmith,

As 12AM mentioned, there’s no major for Econometrics however Finance is available as a major. If you’re interested, here’s a site with all the Commerce majors on offer. The subject prerequisites for the Bachelor of Commerce only include English and Mathematical Methods/Specialist Mathematics, so if you don’t have years 12 subjects such as Accounting, you won’t be at a disadvantage. You usually don’t need to decide on your major until your second year of the degree, so you have plenty of time to explore your options and find which study area bests suits your interests!

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheAspiringDoc on September 02, 2014, 04:28:15 pm
can someone please explain to me what the kwong lee dow program is?
thanks, TheAspiringDoc
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rishi97 on September 02, 2014, 05:23:01 pm
can someone please explain to me what the kwong lee dow program is?
thanks, TheAspiringDoc

Hi
not part of the Melb Uni group but I might be able to give you some info since I am a kwong lee dow scholar myself. Basically, it is a program designed to help students throughout yr 10,11 and 12. Melb Uni choose 1 or 2 people from each school (I think schools that are under represented) to be in the program. Some benefits include, revision lectures, activities, cash pay out if you are from a rural area and being a KLD scholar, Melb Uni also lower the atar for many courses. You can find more information on the website but here is what I know :)
Also please add more info Melbourne Uni representatives... I would love to know more
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: daphaneng on September 02, 2014, 09:19:59 pm
Howdy UniMelb, hope all is well!

I have a friend who is possibly interested in science communication, and was wondering if UniMelb offered any post-grad course that is relevant to the field? I tried a quick google search, but couldn't find anything, thought you lovely people could help me out. :)

Hey! I'm interested in science comms too, so I thought I'd jump in to add more about your question. I'm in my final year of my science degree and have been looking at post grad options to pursue science comms.

Honestly - there isn't much at unimelb. Your friend can pick up the Science Communications elective in postgrad, but if your friend has already done the undergrad subject (MULT20011 Communicating and Science and Technology), he or she can't do that postgrad subject. It's either one of the other, can't do both.

Your friend could look at the Masters of Global Media Communications, or the Media and Communications course. But if your friend wants to do a course that purely focuses on science comms - he or she may have to look interstate.

From my conversations with many lecturers, and science communicators at uni - the most recommended course is the Masters of Science Communication up in ANU (Australian National University, in canberra). At first I wasn't particularly keen at the thought of moving up to canberra, but I'm warming up to the idea now.

If your friends wants to have a chat more about science comms options and stuff, I'm happy to! I've been doing a fair bit of research about science comms post grad options :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: kk243 on September 03, 2014, 04:43:40 pm
is their any sort of confirmation from vtac after sending in the supporting documents for the seas application?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheDragonBorn on September 04, 2014, 10:14:56 pm
Hi there,

Just wondering it says on the UoM site that getting into Graduate Engineering program requires 65% in last 2 years. What is the weight of 2nd year and 3rd year marks or are they equally weighted? How is the WAM calculated? Thanks!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 09, 2014, 11:58:42 am
is their any sort of confirmation from vtac after sending in the supporting documents for the seas application?

Hi kk243,

Most likely, however it’s best to confirm with VTAC about their processes. Here’s their contact info: http://www.vtac.edu.au/contact-us.html. Let us know how you go.

- Miriam


is their any sort of confirmation from vtac after sending in the supporting documents for the seas application?

Hi TheDragonBorn,

Actually the Melbourne School of Engineering has recently changed their entry requirements so that they will be looking at the overall score from your previous degree(s).
Here’s an extract from the MSE website that explains how the GPA (WAM) is calculated:

“For all programs the overall score from your previous degree(s) is used to calculate an entry score, such as your overall Weighted Average Mark (WAM), GPA (Grade Point Average), etc.
This score is converted to a percentage and then normalised to determine a University of Melbourne equivalent score. This normalisation takes into account a number of factors such as the scoring system used, where you completed your degree, the ranking of your institution, etc.
Please note that these calculations should be used as a guide only. If you have attempted multiple courses we will generally look at your entire academic history and use your most recent relevant study as the basis for determining consideration for admission.
Meeting the minimum entry requirements means you will be considered for assessment but does not guarantee you entry, the academic coordinator has final approval.

How is the University of Melbourne equivalent GPA determined?
Our courses require a minimum equivalent mark of what would be 65–70% at The University of Melbourne. To do this we look at your academic record and then calculate your University of Melbourne equivalent score based on the following factors:
•   Research profile and international standing of the University you received your degree(s) from
•   The ranking of the University you received your degree from — the Times Higher Education Rankings and the Shanghai Jiao Tong World Rankings are good reference points and provide an indication of where other Universities are positioned (against the University of Melbourne)
•   Australian Government guidelines which assess international universities and education institutions. These guidelines are not made public, however take into account a number of factors including scoring systems etc.”

Read more: http://eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/faqs.html

- Miriam
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheDragonBorn on September 09, 2014, 02:00:43 pm
Hi TheDragonBorn,

Actually the Melbourne School of Engineering has recently changed their entry requirements so that they will be looking at the overall score from your previous degree(s).
Here’s an extract from the MSE website that explains how the GPA (WAM) is calculated:

“For all programs the overall score from your previous degree(s) is used to calculate an entry score, such as your overall Weighted Average Mark (WAM), GPA (Grade Point Average), etc.
This score is converted to a percentage and then normalised to determine a University of Melbourne equivalent score. This normalisation takes into account a number of factors such as the scoring system used, where you completed your degree, the ranking of your institution, etc.
Please note that these calculations should be used as a guide only. If you have attempted multiple courses we will generally look at your entire academic history and use your most recent relevant study as the basis for determining consideration for admission.
Meeting the minimum entry requirements means you will be considered for assessment but does not guarantee you entry, the academic coordinator has final approval.

How is the University of Melbourne equivalent GPA determined?
Our courses require a minimum equivalent mark of what would be 65–70% at The University of Melbourne. To do this we look at your academic record and then calculate your University of Melbourne equivalent score based on the following factors:
•   Research profile and international standing of the University you received your degree(s) from
•   The ranking of the University you received your degree from — the Times Higher Education Rankings and the Shanghai Jiao Tong World Rankings are good reference points and provide an indication of where other Universities are positioned (against the University of Melbourne)
•   Australian Government guidelines which assess international universities and education institutions. These guidelines are not made public, however take into account a number of factors including scoring systems etc.”

Read more: http://eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/faqs.html

- Miriam

I'm studying at BSc a UoM at the moment and am in 2nd year. So the new requirement means that the uni will average my grades from 1st year as well?

Mod Edit: Fixed quote - Phy124
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 09, 2014, 05:02:53 pm
can someone please explain to me what the kwong lee dow program is?
thanks, TheAspiringDoc

Hi
not part of the Melb Uni group but I might be able to give you some info since I am a kwong lee dow scholar myself. Basically, it is a program designed to help students throughout yr 10,11 and 12. Melb Uni choose 1 or 2 people from each school (I think schools that are under represented) to be in the program. Some benefits include, revision lectures, activities, cash pay out if you are from a rural area and being a KLD scholar, Melb Uni also lower the atar for many courses. You can find more information on the website but here is what I know :)
Also please add more info Melbourne Uni representatives... I would love to know more

Hi TheAspiringDoc and Rishi97,

In order to give you the best assistance, we've contacted the Kwong Lee Dow expert at the University. We'll post an answer as soon as we hear back  :)

- Miriam & Bronwyn

Update 10/09/2014
Hi TheAspiringDoc and Rishi97,

Our Kwong Lee Dow expert has passed on the following information for you! If you have any further questions, Kwong Lee Dow details (including contacts) are located here.

"KLD is an academic enrichment program designed to support high-achieving Victorian and select NSW & SA bordering students. The program provides students with the opportunity to experience University life whilst utilising University resources and attending KLD specific events at our Parkville Campus.

Opportunities within the program include: KLD revision lectures, workshops, overnight adventures on campus,  a guaranteed place at Melbourne following Year 12 if an ATAR of 95 is achieved (or 90 if your school is under-represented), eligible to receive a scholarship (Melbourne Global Scholars Award) to study overseas on exchange, access to the University of Melbourne library collection, a relocation allowance for KLD students from regional Victoria and interstate enrolling into a University of Melbourne undergraduate degree in the year following Year 12.

KLD not only provides students with unique opportunities, the program also provides students with the chance to forge friendships with fellow KLD participants and to engage with university of Melbourne academics. Importantly, the program assists students during the transition between high school and university."

- Bronwyn


Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 09, 2014, 05:11:24 pm


Hi TheDragonBorn,

Actually the Melbourne School of Engineering has recently changed their entry requirements so that they will be looking at the overall score from your previous degree(s).
Here’s an extract from the MSE website that explains how the GPA (WAM) is calculated:

“For all programs the overall score from your previous degree(s) is used to calculate an entry score, such as your overall Weighted Average Mark (WAM), GPA (Grade Point Average), etc.
This score is converted to a percentage and then normalised to determine a University of Melbourne equivalent score. This normalisation takes into account a number of factors such as the scoring system used, where you completed your degree, the ranking of your institution, etc.
Please note that these calculations should be used as a guide only. If you have attempted multiple courses we will generally look at your entire academic history and use your most recent relevant study as the basis for determining consideration for admission.
Meeting the minimum entry requirements means you will be considered for assessment but does not guarantee you entry, the academic coordinator has final approval.

How is the University of Melbourne equivalent GPA determined?
Our courses require a minimum equivalent mark of what would be 65–70% at The University of Melbourne. To do this we look at your academic record and then calculate your University of Melbourne equivalent score based on the following factors:
•   Research profile and international standing of the University you received your degree(s) from
•   The ranking of the University you received your degree from — the Times Higher Education Rankings and the Shanghai Jiao Tong World Rankings are good reference points and provide an indication of where other Universities are positioned (against the University of Melbourne)
•   Australian Government guidelines which assess international universities and education institutions. These guidelines are not made public, however take into account a number of factors including scoring systems etc.”

Read more: http://eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/faqs.html

- Miriam


I'm studying at BSc a UoM at the moment and am in 2nd year. So the new requirement means that the uni will average my grades from 1st year as well?


Hi TheDragonBorn,

Current UoM students who apply for Masters by Coursework programs (including the Graduate Certificate of Information Systems) for the 2015 intake, will be assessed using the WAM. However if their WAM falls below the required 65%, then MSE will use all level 2 and 3 subjects including fails. If this also falls below 65% then they are not eligible.

Note: this does not apply to the PhD or MPhil (our research programs).

For all applications from UOM students for 2016 and beyond, MSE will just use the WAM for assessing applications.

- Miriam & Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on September 10, 2014, 02:41:46 pm
Hi unimelb, what makes your commerce degree different to monash? i was also thinking of doing engineering as well, and would it best to do double degree at monash or do commerce at UoM then after my three years do engineering?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on September 12, 2014, 06:40:01 pm
Hi guys,

I wanted to ask a question for a colleague of mine. He has relatives overseas (India) and they are looking to study over here. I'm really bad with finding information on this stuff so would you guys mind helping me out?

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheAspiringDoc on September 14, 2014, 07:58:11 pm
hi UoM, thanks so much, just curious, if i was from a really top regional school and scored 90 ATAR and was in KLD could i definately do Biomed? :):)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Special At Specialist on September 14, 2014, 08:38:10 pm
Hey UoM, I was wondering if there are any indicative scores for transferring into the semester 1 intake of undergraduate degrees. You've published indicative scores for mid-year (85% for Commerce, 75% for Science, etc.), but I can't find any for the start of the year.

Also, do you look at the marks at RMIT or only the GPA? For example, someone with 79% in one subject and 100% in 7 subjects is going to have a lower GPA than someone with 80% in 8 subjects, despite getting a much higher average mark.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on September 15, 2014, 01:30:03 am
Hey UoM, just a quick question:
I am looking at doing the bachelor of commerce next year, but i may just miss out and not get a high enough atar. If that is the case, would it be easier to transfer into B.Comm halfway through first year, coming from a UoM bachelor of arts, or from a monash bachelor of commerce? Also, if this were my goal, could i not do the arts foundation unit in first semester, and do it in second semester instead if i dont get into commerce mid year? also what sort of wam would i need to be competitive to get in?

thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on September 15, 2014, 08:10:56 am
 if you did bachelor of commerce + master of engineering at melbourne, is that the equivalent of bcom + beng at monash?

does the "masters" make you any more employable?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on September 15, 2014, 11:09:57 am
Hey UoM, just a quick question:
I am looking at doing the bachelor of commerce next year, but i may just miss out and not get a high enough atar. If that is the case, would it be easier to transfer into B.Comm halfway through first year, coming from a UoM bachelor of arts, or from a monash bachelor of commerce? Also, if this were my goal, could i not do the arts foundation unit in first semester, and do it in second semester instead if i dont get into commerce mid year? also what sort of wam would i need to be competitive to get in?

thanks
At the bare minimum to have a smooth transition from arts at unimelb to commerce at unimelb you'll have to complete Introductory Microeconomics. All other subjects can be postponed for when you transfer to commerce. Depending on how much you enjoy mathematics you may go choose to complete the subject Quantitative Methods 1 in first year, or choose the science department maths subjects( calc 1/calc 2/linear algebra.)

A commerce course at monash would have very similar subjects to unimelb, (since they are both part of the go8)and are relatively easy to cross credit when doing a transfer.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 16, 2014, 10:20:37 am
Hi, Miriam and Bronwyn here. We'd like to introduce our student intern Carol! Carol is currently in her 3rd year of a BA, majoring in Art History and Media and Communications. Here are our answers to the questions you asked during the week. Spectroscopy/Seinfeld/notveryasian- great discussion point! We're getting some advice from our Admissions team and will come back to you soon.

Hi unimelb, what makes your commerce degree different to monash? i was also thinking of doing engineering as well, and would it best to do double degree at monash or do commerce at UoM then after my three years do engineering?
if you did bachelor of commerce + master of engineering at melbourne, is that the equivalent of bcom + beng at monash?

does the "masters" make you any more employable?

Hi LiquidPaperz,

Unfortunately we cannot advise you on which course is better as it is ultimately your personal choice. However, the Faculty of Business and Economics is ranked #21 globally by The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2013-2014, also ranked 8th globally for Accounting and Finance, QS World University Rankings 2013-2014.

Being a higher qualification, a Master degree is likely to make you more employable than having just a bachelor degree. Hence it wouldn’t exactly be the equivalent to a double bachelor degree. Additionally, I have included some links no career pathways and accreditation in regards to Master of Engineering:
http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/careers/pathways.html
http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/accreditation.html

- Carol


I wanted to ask a question for a colleague of mine. He has relatives overseas (India) and they are looking to study over here. I'm really bad with finding information on this stuff so would you guys mind helping me out?

Hi ChickenCh0wM1en,

You could start off by visiting our Future Student page for international students within South Asia. Information on applications, admissions, visas, scholarships and more are provided here:
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/info/international/south-asia

Depending on what your colleague would like to study, he can search for his preferred course here: http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/

Additionally, the University’s overseas representatives in India will be able to guide him through all aspects of the application process as well as student visa application. You’ll be able to find contact details here: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/contact/overseas_representatives

- Carol

hi UoM, thanks so much, just curious, if i was from a really top regional school and scored 90 ATAR and was in KLD could i definately do Biomed? :):)

Hi TheAspiringDoc,

The KLD program does offer guaranteed entry for some courses, however Biomedicine has an intake quota which may restrict the amount of places available. In addition, students must achieve an ATAR or notional ATAR of 95.00 (90.00 if your school is considered an under-represented school in the year of application) as well as meet all course prerequisites.

For more information please read: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/info/school-students/kld/benefits_of_the_kwong_lee_dow_young_scholars_program

Make sure you get all the correct applications in, including SEAS if applicable (e.g. if you're a rural student).

- Bron and Carol

Hey UoM, I was wondering if there are any indicative scores for transferring into the semester 1 intake of undergraduate degrees. You've published indicative scores for mid-year (85% for Commerce, 75% for Science, etc.), but I can't find any for the start of the year.

Also, do you look at the marks at RMIT or only the GPA? For example, someone with 79% in one subject and 100% in 7 subjects is going to have a lower GPA than someone with 80% in 8 subjects, despite getting a much higher average mark.

Hi Special At Specialist,

The University of Melbourne does look at the GPA for applicants who are looking to transfer from another undergraduate course. When assessing undergraduate applications from domestic students with tertiary results, Selection Officers consider a combination of factors, including:

•   The entire academic record, including Grade Point Average (GPA)
•   Results for particularly relevant tertiary subjects
•   How much tertiary study has been undertaken
•   How recently the study was undertaken
•   The number of places available in the course
•   The calibre of other applicants in that intake

For this reason, we are unable to provide a specific GPA requirement for entry into our undergraduate degrees.
However, we can advise that the rough, indicative GPA for entry in 2013 was as follows:

•   Bachelor of Agriculture
Semester 1: 4.0
•   Bachelor of Arts
Semester 1: 6.8
Semester 2: 6.7
•   Bachelor of Biomedicine
Semester 1: 7.0
•   Bachelor of Commerce
5.5 for both semesters
•   Bachelor of Environments
Semester 1: 4.0
Semester 2: 6.0
•   Bachelor of Science
6.5 for both semesters

The majority of domestic tertiary results are automatically calculated to a GPA score out of 7 by VTAC.
As the indicative GPA varies at each intake, if you have met all other entry requirements, we’d encourage you to apply with your full Academic Transcripts, as applications are assessed on a case-by-case basis.

- Carol
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 16, 2014, 10:52:32 am
Hey UoM, just a quick question:
I am looking at doing the bachelor of commerce next year, but i may just miss out and not get a high enough atar. If that is the case, would it be easier to transfer into B.Comm halfway through first year, coming from a UoM bachelor of arts, or from a monash bachelor of commerce? Also, if this were my goal, could i not do the arts foundation unit in first semester, and do it in second semester instead if i dont get into commerce mid year? also what sort of wam would i need to be competitive to get in?

thanks

Hi spectroscopy,

If you feel like your ATAR may be under, maybe check if you're eligible for Access Melbourne. Without advising, your course preferences should be based on what you want to do, taking into account the entry requirements, and with your highest preference first. Students tend to do better in subjects/courses they are interested in, but it is completely up to you.

If you miss out on entry for start year 2015, you might consider studying at another university in order to increase your academic standing before applying to transfer at a later stage. No greater advantage is placed on a student if they are transferring from one unimelb course to another or from an external institution to a unimelb degree. All students will still need to apply via the VTAC process as new applicants. GPA requirements vary from intake to intake, but the higher your scores, the better your chance of selection (provided you meet the prereqs).

If you complete some tertiary study, you might get credit for prior study (advanced standing). Up to two semesters of course credits can be granted if applicable.

Is there an adviser at your school you can talk to about your course preferences? Might be worth seeking their assistance.

Seinfeld raises some good points, however when it comes to course planning and subject selection it's best to get advice from the Faculty directly (available for current uni students).

- Miriam, Bronwyn and Carol
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uni_student on September 16, 2014, 01:18:42 pm
Hi unimelb!
I've just got three quick questions:
1. Do you accept unilearn chemistry as a prerequisite for the bachelor of science? (Alongside maths methods)?
2. My friend wants to start science next year but has not completed methods. Can she apply and get an offer to start next year then complete unilearn maths over summer?
3. Is is possible to arrange an appointment to see how much credit would be granted, before applying/accepting an offer?
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 16, 2014, 03:44:48 pm
Hi unimelb!
I've just got three quick questions:
1. Do you accept unilearn chemistry as a prerequisite for the bachelor of science? (Alongside maths methods)?
2. My friend wants to start science next year but has not completed methods. Can she apply and get an offer to start next year then complete unilearn maths over summer?
3. Is is possible to arrange an appointment to see how much credit would be granted, before applying/accepting an offer?
Thanks so much!

Hi uni_student,

1.   Unfortunately we do not recognise unilearn chemistry. However, we do recognise Unilearn Biology as another option for applicants seeking to satisfy the science requirement for entry to the Bachelor of Science. This subject is equivalent to VCE Biology Units 1-4 and is offered as a self-paced distance education subject. Students who complete the subject with a mark of at least 75 will be deemed to have satisfied the science prerequisite. Further details about Unilearn can be found on their website. Note that the science pre-reqs for the Bachelor of Science are Maths Methods/Specialist Maths + 1 of either Biology, Chemistry or Physics. Only students wanting to study the Doctor of Veterinary Medicine as their postgrad are specifically encouraged to do the Chemistry pre-req.

2.   Your friend will need to meet the pre-reqs before applying to be considered for an offer. Unilearn Senior Mathematics is an option if your friend can complete it before applications close. This is equivalent to Maths Methods (1-4). As with Unilearn Biology, students need a mark of at least 75 to satisfy the maths prerequisite.

3.   At the moment we don’t offer appointments for credit evaluations. This is because decisions regarding credit are only made after an offer of a place in the course has been made, so there’s only limited information we can give you as an applicant. However, you can check the Credit calculator to get an idea of how much credit you might receive for prior study.

- Miriam and Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Reus on September 22, 2014, 09:18:09 pm
I know you guys answer questions on Tuesday, but just in case I forget to ask tomorrow :)

I'm looking at doing either Biomed or BSci next year and was wondering how well access/SEAS works? Do they actually consider things like that and how often.
I've heard that your clearly-in rank (access one) doesn't mean you get in your course and that its highly unlikely to be considered (because of demand). Is this true?

Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: darklight on September 22, 2014, 09:20:30 pm
Hi unimelb,

If I begin a Bachelor of Science at Uni Melb, am I able to move into second-year Biomed if I realise that it doesn't suit me as well as I expected it to?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 23, 2014, 11:20:46 am

I'm looking at doing either Biomed or BSci next year and was wondering how well access/SEAS works? Do they actually consider things like that and how often.
I've heard that your clearly-in rank (access one) doesn't mean you get in your course and that its highly unlikely to be considered (because of demand). Is this true?


Hi Reus,

If you apply for Access Melbourne (SEAS) and are eligible, it means you will be considered even if your ATAR is lower than our specified minimum for the course. We also offer guaranteed entry for rural area or disadvantaged financial background SEAS categories if your ATAR is 78.00 or above for BSci, and 95.00 or above for Biomed. Note, the subject prerequisites still apply under Access Melbourne.

- Miriam

Hi unimelb,

If I begin a Bachelor of Science at Uni Melb, am I able to move into second-year Biomed if I realise that it doesn't suit me as well as I expected it to?

Hi Darklight,

If you begin and decide a course is not for you, you can apply to transfer. This following link explains how: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/applications/other-applications/transferring-course

Your application would be assessed based on your GPA and ATAR, also depending on how much of the BSci you had completed. The majority of domestic tertiary results are automatically calculated to a GPA score out of 7 by VTAC. As the indicative GPA varies at each intake, if you have met all other entry requirements, we encourage you to apply with your full Academic Transcripts, as applications are assessed on a case-by-case basis.

We can advise that the rough, indicative GPA for entry in 2013 was as follows:
Bachelor of Biomedicine
Semester 1: 7.0

If you’re offered a place in BBmed you could apply for credit for prior learning (Advanced Standing), but please note that you may not start as a BBmed second year if you need to make up first year BBmed subjects: http://ask.unimelb.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/2951/~/applying-for-advanced-standing%2F-credit-for-prior-learning

It will also be useful to note that BSci has a pathway to Doctor of Medicine. However, you must undertake anatomy, physiology and biochemistry as part of your studies: http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/pathways/3-medicine

- Miriam

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Reus on September 23, 2014, 11:31:59 am
Hi Reus,

If you apply for Access Melbourne (SEAS) and are eligible, it means you will be considered even if your ATAR is lower than our specified minimum for the course. We also offer guaranteed entry for rural area or disadvantaged financial background SEAS categories if your ATAR is 78.00 or above for BSci, and 95.00 or above for Biomed. Note, the subject prerequisites still apply under Access Melbourne.

- Miriam

Thanks for that. I additionally wanted to ask that I noticed on the VTAC lodge for scholarships it didn't include UoM. Why is that?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: hang__10 on September 23, 2014, 11:58:38 am
Hey Melb Uni!

I was wondering about applying to one of your colleges and you might not have your own preferences but I missed out on going to your Open Day - so is there anywhere I can seek for personal opinion (not just the college's websites?)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 23, 2014, 02:45:25 pm
Hey Melb Uni!

I was wondering about applying to one of your colleges and you might not have your own preferences but I missed out on going to your Open Day - so is there anywhere I can seek for personal opinion (not just the college's websites?)

Hi Hang__10,

It's probably best to check out the Colleges in person to get an idea of where you might like to live. If you missed out on Open Day, you can still take a tour of the Colleges. It is recommended that you visit at least 3 colleges before deciding on your first preference. You can email the Intercollegiate Office to request a tour at [email protected]. Please include a list of the top 3-4 colleges you’d like to visit and the office will plan an itinerary for you.

Here's a Google map of all the Colleges.

- Miriam and Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on September 23, 2014, 03:30:38 pm
Thanks for that. I additionally wanted to ask that I noticed on the VTAC lodge for scholarships it didn't include UoM. Why is that?

Hi Reus,

I've checked with our Admissions team and confirmed that Melbourne Access Scholarship applications are made using the SEAS application on the VTAC website; no additional application is required. If you're eligible and you've applied via VTAC (SEAS), you'll be automatically considered for Access Scholarships.

- Miriam
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on September 23, 2014, 07:51:54 pm
what sort of atar would get a student into commerce last year with the SEAS categories of underrepresented school, medical condition, and living in an under-represented area(not rural, and not sure if melb uni recognises this)?
thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on September 23, 2014, 07:58:02 pm
what sort of atar would get a student into commerce last year with the SEAS categories of underrepresented school, medical condition, and living in an under-represented area(not rural, and not sure if melb uni recognises this)?
thanks

"Guaranteed entry to Melbourne
The University guarantees admission to eligible applicants in these Access Melbourne categories:

Disadvantaged financial background
Applicants from rural or isolated areas
You need to meet prerequisites and achieve the following ATARs:
— 78.00: Arts, Environments, Science
— 88.00: Commerce
— 95.00: Biomedicine
Some conditions apply"

Source - http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/access_melbourne_and_equity_programs/access-melbourne
I think this would be the bare minimum 88.00. Regardless of whether you have one of those categories or all three of them, the lowest score you could get in with is  an 88.00 ATAR.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on September 23, 2014, 09:43:31 pm
"Guaranteed entry to Melbourne
The University guarantees admission to eligible applicants in these Access Melbourne categories:

Disadvantaged financial background
Applicants from rural or isolated areas
You need to meet prerequisites and achieve the following ATARs:
— 78.00: Arts, Environments, Science
— 88.00: Commerce
— 95.00: Biomedicine
Some conditions apply"

Source - http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/access_melbourne_and_equity_programs/access-melbourne
I think this would be the bare minimum 88.00. Regardless of whether you have one of those categories or all three of them, the lowest score you could get in with is  an 88.00 ATAR.
i appreciate the effort, but that information applys to rural students and disadvantaged financial students. from talking to careers counsellors and stuff, the three categories im asking about dont give you as much of a boost as those ones that guarantee you entry with an 88, so it definitely will be an atar higher than 88 required to get in, which is why i am asking the question specifically as there is very little information on how much the other seas categories can help you (most of the information is focused on the two you mention in your answer). im curious about whether with the combination of those categories youll get leeway of maybe 1 or 2 atar, or maybe even 3 or perhaps <1
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: BLACKCATT on September 24, 2014, 09:47:29 pm
Hi Uom!

I'm going to be overseas from december~1st of March. I know i can accept offers online but, will there be any issues/anything that i need to do/know beforehand? I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: hang__10 on September 24, 2014, 11:08:53 pm
Just a follow up question about residence: I've heard that if you don't get accepted into your first preference that there's a verryyyy little chance of getting into another college - I'm assuming because the colleges only want those who pick them first. Can you confirm this or no?

Also if I live in a rural area but have not finished my last 2 years of high school at a rural location, does that I mean I can't use my rural background to help me out??

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on September 27, 2014, 12:30:20 pm
Hey unimelb, i was interested in doing a bachelor of commerce, and after my three year course i would be interested in doing my post graduate overseas, possibly the likes of Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard or Stanford and so on.... My question is, are you aware of the necessary steps to take to get into their post graduate course? is their a certain GPA we must hold etc?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mark_alec on September 27, 2014, 01:06:05 pm
It really depends on the type of program you want to apply to. For a PhD program, grades are important, but research experience/potential and letters of recommendation tend to be much more heavily weighed.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 07, 2014, 10:21:22 am
Update at 2.00pm, 8/10/2014
Hi spectroscopy and hang__10, we have your answers for you. We're sorry for the delay! -Bronwyn & Miriam

what sort of atar would get a student into commerce last year with the SEAS categories of underrepresented school, medical condition, and living in an under-represented area(not rural, and not sure if melb uni recognises this)?

Hi spectroscopy,

Thanks for your patience, here's some advice straight from our Admissions experts for you:

The University of Melbourne cannot provide a definitive answer to this question as eligibility for different SEAS categories impacts upon an applicant’s ATAR by varying amounts when we are selecting students for our undergraduate courses. The only SEAS ATARs that the University of Melbourne can publish in advance are those that are guaranteed for eligible SEAS applicants who are from a Rural or isolated area or have a Disadvantaged financial background. A student who is eligible under either of these SEAS categories will be guaranteed a place in Commerce in 2015 if they achieve an ATAR of at least 88.00 – this is significantly lower than the minimum ATAR required for entry to this course for students who aren’t eligible for SEAS (some conditions do apply for this Access Melbourne guarantee, please refer to the link below for detailed information).

Applicants eligible for other SEAS categories will be assessed on an individual basis and it is not possible to predict in advance the difference their SEAS application will make. While a student who is eligible under the Disability or medical condition category and/or the Under-represented school category is not guaranteed to receive an offer for Commerce with an ATAR of 88.00 in 2015 (as our Access Melbourne guarantee does not apply to these categories), if it is considered that their circumstances have had a significant impact upon their final ATAR they may still receive an offer for this course. It is impossible for us to predict the likely outcome of an application under the Disability or medical condition category in particular, as we know that applications under this category can vary from something fairly minor (for example, a broken toe) to something very severe (for example, a cancer diagnosis).

Please be assured that each SEAS application is considered individually by the University, and students who are eligible under multiple SEAS categories are assessed for each category before then receiving a final “compound” amount of extra consideration. For these reasons the level of adjustment that takes place once an eligible SEAS application is received by the University of Melbourne cannot be predicted in advance (with the exception of the guaranteed categories), and this is particularly so for applicants who are eligible under multiple categories.

Finally, could you define what you mean by under-represented area? If this relates to the area of your school’s postcode and your home address postcode then you may actually be eligible for the Access Melbourne guarantee that we have mentioned above.

- Bronwyn & Miriam

Also if I live in a rural area but have not finished my last 2 years of high school at a rural location, does that I mean I can't use my rural background to help me out??

Hi hang__10,

From the requirements listed on the Future Students website, in order to be eligible for the Rural SEAS category, you need to have completed your last two years of high school at a rural or regional secondary school. If you're unsure about eligibility, you can always contact 13 MELB to discuss your circumstances in greater detail.

- Bronwyn & Miriam

Update at 4.30pm, 7/10/2014
Hi spectroscopy and hang__10, don't worry we haven't forgotten about you! We're still waiting to hear back from the Admissions team experts and will respond to your very good questions as soon as we have answers for you. We hope you all have a great week! - Bronwyn

Original post at 10.00am, 7/10/2014
Hi all, Miriam, Bronwyn and Carol here today to provide some answers. spectroscopy and hang__10 (second question)- we're getting some expert advice from our Admissions team and will respond to your queries asap.

Hi Uom!

I'm going to be overseas from december~1st of March. I know i can accept offers online but, will there be any issues/anything that i need to do/know beforehand? I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance

Hi BLACKCATT,

While classes commence on Monday 2 March, there are some key events such as Orientation Week from Tuesday 24 February – Friday 27 February and Academic Advice Day (AAD) on Friday 23 January (which is strongly recommended for choosing your subjects and planning your course). Some courses may offer an online webinar as an alternative (for instance, this year Bachelor of Arts students could view their info sessions online) however details for AAD 2015 are still being finalised. The best thing to do is watch this space for more information about AAD and other orientation information: https://aad.unimelb.edu.au/

If you are successful in receiving an offer at the University of Melbourne, you will need to contact your Student Centre about your late arrival as there may be additional steps you need to take before commencing your classes.

When you receive your offer, you will be invited to enrol in your course, which can be done online. It’s important to note that if you plan on deferring your course fees through HECS-HELP, eligible students must provide a Tax File Number which can be difficult to organise if you are overseas.

- Bronwyn

Just a follow up question about residence: I've heard that if you don't get accepted into your first preference that there's a verryyyy little chance of getting into another college - I'm assuming because the colleges only want those who pick them first. Can you confirm this or no?

Also if I live in a rural area but have not finished my last 2 years of high school at a rural location, does that I mean I can't use my rural background to help me out??

Thanks

Hi hang__10,

The Intercollegiate team have advised that the majority of colleges fill their places after the First Preference round. While there is a chance that places may be offered once the First Preference round has been completed, they recommend that you consider other options as a back up. You can find more information on housing options here or if you’d like further advice on the college application process, you can contact the Intercollegiate team directly.

-Bronwyn

Hey unimelb, i was interested in doing a bachelor of commerce, and after my three year course i would be interested in doing my post graduate overseas, possibly the likes of Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard or Stanford and so on.... My question is, are you aware of the necessary steps to take to get into their post graduate course? is their a certain GPA we must hold etc?

Thanks

Hi LiquidPaperz,

mark_alec is spot on, as it really does depend on the type of program you are interested in studying. A great place to start is by checking the admissions websites for each University. For instance, there are specific admissions websites for Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, the list goes on! As there are many graduate study possibilities at each of these institutions, the only way to be sure that you’d be on track to submitting a competitive application, is to check the selection criteria for courses that may interest you. I hope this helps!

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: silverpixeli on October 07, 2014, 08:36:12 pm
Hey guys,

First year science student here.

A few weeks ago I found out about concurrent diplomas and considered adding a diploma in mathematics to my computing and software systems major. After more research I'm now looking at doing a major in mathematical physics + a concurrent diploma in informatics, so I can do more physics subjects.
I see from the handbook that both diplomas offer cross-crediting of up to 50 points, I'm interested to know if the informatics diploma offers the same fee exemption for the final 50 points as the maths and languages diplomas offer.

(If anyone else can clear this up before unimelb gets back next tuesday, thanks a billion too!)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on October 08, 2014, 01:24:54 am
Hi I'm not sure if this is a stupid question. But my and my friend were interested in doing commerce in 2016 at unimelb, and were wondering if we are allowed to come to one of the lectures and just sit at the back and listen even though we aren't uni students? Under any circumstances is this allowed and does this happen often?

What happens if we are caught without it being allowed (say I didn't ask on AN and went in etc)

Thanns
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: simpak on October 08, 2014, 02:54:11 am
Literally nobody will know you're not a student.
Literally nobody.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on October 08, 2014, 04:19:05 pm
would we get in trouble at all?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: allstar on October 08, 2014, 04:41:50 pm
hi unimelb,

I'm interested in sonography and I was wondering is there a course avaliable at melb uni? If so which undergraduate and graduate courses do i have to look at?

thank you!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on October 08, 2014, 07:05:03 pm
would we get in trouble at all?

Getting caught would be nigh impossible, since the university has no way of controlling who goes into which lectures, but in the extremely slight chance that you somehow manage to get caught, then yes, you would get in trouble.

I don't think that going to a single lecture would be particularly useful or interesting if you are still in high school, things would only make sense if you attended all lectures for an introductory subject from the very start of semester.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on October 08, 2014, 08:49:22 pm
Getting caught would be nigh impossible, since the university has no way of controlling who goes into which lectures, but in the extremely slight chance that you somehow manage to get caught, then yes, you would get in trouble.

I don't think that going to a single lecture would be particularly useful or interesting if you are still in high school, things would only make sense if you attended all lectures for an introductory subject from the very start of semester.

To be honest, I can't see lecturers caring, even if they knew random high school students were in their lectures.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on October 08, 2014, 11:07:48 pm
To be honest, I can't see lecturers caring, even if they knew random high school students were in their lectures.

Yes I doubt many lecturers would care but the university would have something to say about people getting essentially "free" education.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on October 08, 2014, 11:21:33 pm
Yes I doubt many lecturers would care but the university would have something to say about people getting essentially "free" education.

thats what i was thinking, like a la trobe student doing commerce could pop into Melbourne commerce.

i contacted unimelb and ill see what they say, any ideas what lectures would do IF caught?
hate to be on their blacklist before i even enrol...
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on October 08, 2014, 11:25:06 pm
thats what i was thinking, like a la trobe student doing commerce could pop into Melbourne commerce.

i contacted unimelb and ill see what they say, any ideas what lectures would do IF caught?
hate to be on their blacklist before i even enrol...

They won't 'catch' you, and even if they catch you, they won't care.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: silverpixeli on October 08, 2014, 11:29:14 pm
Yes I doubt many lecturers would care but the university would have something to say about people getting essentially "free" education.

idk if this is the uni's position, but like education is free anyway. you can't 'just rock up' to the tutes, labs, hand in assignments and sit exams and you certainly can't get credit for subjects without being enrolled.
IMO the lectures are kinda just a convenient source of knowledge, and you're paying for the other stuff and the degree. the knowledge can be found at free educational sites and from universities that have made their courseware open (e.g. MIT).

Plus, like, going to lectures is really a drag, so going to a separate campus to get to lectures multiple times a week would suck.

EDIT: okay this might not be the case for all units in all areas, it's just based on my experience with first year maths/physics/IT/japanese
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on October 09, 2014, 04:27:53 pm
idk if this is the uni's position, but like education is free anyway. you can't 'just rock up' to the tutes, labs, hand in assignments and sit exams and you certainly can't get credit for subjects without being enrolled.
IMO the lectures are kinda just a convenient source of knowledge, and you're paying for the other stuff and the degree. the knowledge can be found at free educational sites and from universities that have made their courseware open (e.g. MIT).

Plus, like, going to lectures is really a drag, so going to a separate campus to get to lectures multiple times a week would suck.

EDIT: okay this might not be the case for all units in all areas, it's just based on my experience with first year maths/physics/IT/japanese

it was just a once off, maybe twice just to see how it is.. nothing full on
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 14, 2014, 10:10:48 am
Update 4.20pm, 15/10/2014
Hi silverpixeli,

Thanks for waiting while we investigated this for you. The Engineering and IT Student Centre has advised that unfortunately there are no fee exemptions offered for the Diploma in Informatics. As this website suggests, this offer is still valid for the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences or the Diploma of Languages.

- Bronwyn

Original Post, 14/10/2014
Hey everyone, we hope you've all had a great week! It's Bronwyn and Miriam here today.

A few weeks ago I found out about concurrent diplomas and considered adding a diploma in mathematics to my computing and software systems major. After more research I'm now looking at doing a major in mathematical physics + a concurrent diploma in informatics, so I can do more physics subjects.
I see from the handbook that both diplomas offer cross-crediting of up to 50 points, I'm interested to know if the informatics diploma offers the same fee exemption for the final 50 points as the maths and languages diplomas offer.
Hi silverpixeli,

This is a great question! We’re so sorry we don’t yet have an answer for you – we've been in touch with the Engineering and IT Student Centre and they're looking further into this. We’ll update this post when we have more information for you.

- Bronwyn

Hi I'm not sure if this is a stupid question. But my and my friend were interested in doing commerce in 2016 at unimelb, and were wondering if we are allowed to come to one of the lectures and just sit at the back and listen even though we aren't uni students? Under any circumstances is this allowed and does this happen often?

What happens if we are caught without it being allowed (say I didn't ask on AN and went in etc)
Hi LiquidPaperz,

While it’s true that anyone can essentially just wander in, we’d discourage people who aren’t enrolled from attending standard lectures as many of lecture theatres are booked based on accommodating only enrolled students, and we need to ensure that these students are all able to attend and that we do everything to provide a safe environment by not overcrowding the theatres. As notveryasian also mentioned, you may not get the best experience from plunging straight into a lecture mid or late semester as the content will assume knowledge from earlier weeks and possibly earlier subjects.

If you’re interested in getting some of the experience of attending lectures and studying at Melbourne while you’re still at school, you can also check out these options:
- Bronwyn

I'm interested in sonography and I was wondering is there a course avaliable at melb uni? If so which undergraduate and graduate courses do i have to look at?
Hi allstar,

Unfortunately we don’t offer any dedicated sonography courses at the University. While we do offer three Ultrasound courses UoM Commercial (the Master of Clinical Ultrasound, the Graduate Certificate in Clinical Ultrasound and the Graduate Diploma in Clinical Ultrasound), you need to be a qualified doctor in order to apply.

I've spoken with the Ultrasound team about study options, and they've recommended that you visit the Australasian Sonographers Association’s website for comprehensive information on how to become a sonographer.

If you would like to search other Undergrad and Graduate medical degrees at Unimelb, try using our Course Search tool to see what takes your interest.

I hope you find this information useful!

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Russ on October 14, 2014, 12:44:44 pm
Hi Bronwyn & Miriam. Do you know anything about taking a leave of absence between the end of semester 1 2015 and the start of semester 2 2016 for a final year MD student (ie how easy it is to get approved)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 14, 2014, 01:45:55 pm
Hi Bronwyn & Miriam. Do you know anything about taking a leave of absence between the end of semester 1 2015 and the start of semester 2 2016 for a final year MD student (ie how easy it is to get approved)?
Hi Russ,

Doctor of Medicine students can certainly apply for a 6 month or 12 month Leave of Absence during their course. You can check out the conditions and process here and you can find more information on Medical School Policies here.

Unfortunately we don’t know how easy it is to get an approval for a 12 month leave of absence, however there is an process listed in the MD Leave of Absence policy if you wish to appeal against a decision. If you want to chat with someone about your leave options, it’s best to speak to a student adviser at the MDHS Student Centre.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rod on October 14, 2014, 01:51:17 pm
Hi UniMelb. My sister goes to SCHS. Why is Suzanne Cory High School listed as an under-represented school? And what benefits do they get for being in the under represented list?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 14, 2014, 03:46:51 pm
Hi UniMelb. My sister goes to SCHS. Why is Suzanne Cory High School listed as an under-represented school? And what benefits do they get for being in the under represented list?

Hi Rod,

The under-represented schools SEAS category is defined as Victorian schools that have an average of 20 or more Year 12 VTAC applicants per year over the past three years and:
While this category isn’t an eligible criteria for Guaranteed Entry, if your sister has submitted a SEAS application (before 5pm on Tuesday 7 October) then her application will be assessed for other Access Melbourne benefits such as Access Melbourne Scholarships.

Applicants eligible for the Under-represented school category will be considered on an individual basis by the University, however it’s not possible to predict in advance the difference their SEAS application will make. Please be assured that each SEAS application is considered individually by the University.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on October 14, 2014, 06:35:49 pm
Hey everyone, we hope you've all had a great week! It's Bronwyn and Miriam here today.
Hi silverpixeli,

This is a great question! We’re so sorry we don’t yet have an answer for you – we've been in touch with the Engineering and IT Student Centre and they're looking further into this. We’ll update this post when we have more information for you.

- Bronwyn
Hi LiquidPaperz,

While it’s true that anyone can essentially just wander in, we’d discourage people who aren’t enrolled from attending standard lectures as many of lecture theatres are booked based on accommodating only enrolled students, and we need to ensure that these students are all able to attend and that we do everything to provide a safe environment by not overcrowding the theatres. As notveryasian also mentioned, you may not get the best experience from plunging straight into a lecture mid or late semester as the content will assume knowledge from earlier weeks and possibly earlier subjects.

If you’re interested in getting some of the experience of attending lectures and studying at Melbourne while you’re still at school, you can also check out these options:
- Bronwyn
Hi allstar,

Unfortunately we don’t offer any dedicated sonography courses at the University. While we do offer three Ultrasound courses UoM Commercial (the Master of Clinical Ultrasound, the Graduate Certificate in Clinical Ultrasound and the Graduate Diploma in Clinical Ultrasound), you need to be a qualified doctor in order to apply.

I've spoken with the Ultrasound team about study options, and they've recommended that you visit the Australasian Sonographers Association’s website for comprehensive information on how to become a sonographer.

If you would like to search other Undergrad and Graduate medical degrees at Unimelb, try using our Course Search tool to see what takes your interest.

I hope you find this information useful!

- Bronwyn

would it possible just to enter one or two  lectures on the one day just to see how it is, and not necessarily learn.

- is their any chance professors may kick you out for thinking your too young/ shouldnt be there etc? if the lecture is not packed would we be welcomed in?

thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Russ on October 14, 2014, 07:30:13 pm
would it possible just to enter one or two  lectures on the one day just to see how it is, and not necessarily learn.

- is their any chance professors may kick you out for thinking your too young/ shouldnt be there etc? if the lecture is not packed would we be welcomed in?

thanks

The university won't formally endorse people not enrolled in subjects going to those lectures for various reasons, OHS and otherwise.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: simpak on October 14, 2014, 08:58:05 pm
Hi Bronwyn and Miriam,

I'm currently in 1st year biomed, doing the Bioengineering Systems pathway, and trying to decide between majors for my degree. The ones that I'm most interested in (Bioengineering Systems, or Microbiology & Immunology) both have prerequisites that have to be done in 2nd semester of 2nd year.

I'd really like to be able to keep my options open until 3rd year if I can, though, so would I be allowed to do two selectives in 2nd year (and no breadth), and make up for the missed breadth subject in 3rd year?

Thanks heaps :D

I am neither of those people, but the answer to your question is yes.
You just need to do a minimum of 4 breadth and a maximum of 6. There is no rule to say you must take one breadth per semester; you can take four science/Biomed subjects in a single semester if you like, you can take multiple breadth subjects in the same semester if you like.
Plus, if you're only taking four breadth overall (the minimum) you /must/ have at least two semesters in which you take no breadth.
Why don't you just do less than 6 breadth and then you won't have to make up for the missed breadth in third year at all?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on October 14, 2014, 09:47:06 pm
I am neither of those people, but the answer to your question is yes.
You just need to do a minimum of 4 breadth and a maximum of 6. There is no rule to say you must take one breadth per semester; you can take four science/Biomed subjects in a single semester if you like, you can take multiple breadth subjects in the same semester if you like.
Plus, if you're only taking four breadth overall (the minimum) you /must/ have at least two semesters in which you take no breadth.
Why don't you just do less than 6 breadth and then you won't have to make up for the missed breadth in third year at all?

Can also do summer/winter semester as well.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: silverpixeli on October 15, 2014, 11:40:23 pm
Update 4.20pm, 15/10/2014
Hi silverpixeli,

Thanks for waiting while we investigated this for you. The Engineering and IT Student Centre has advised that unfortunately there are no fee exemptions offered for the Diploma in Informatics. As this website suggests, this offer is still valid for the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences or the Diploma of Languages.

- Bronwyn

thanks guys!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: atar100 on October 17, 2014, 10:01:52 pm
Hi Unimelb,

Is there anyway I can book a course advice appointment to see if I meet the prerequisites for science with my Uni subjects? I don't want to pay the late vtac fee if I don't meet them.

Also, is it possible to graduate from a Unimelb science degree after only studying there for one year and gaining credit for two years worth of science subjects from another Uni?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 21, 2014, 10:14:29 am
Hello,

Miriam and Bronwyn here, ready to answer your questions today!


The university won't formally endorse people not enrolled in subjects going to those lectures for various reasons, OHS and otherwise.

Hi LiquidPaperz and Russ,

Russ- you're absolutely spot on. For the reasons outlined in our earlier post and in your comment, attending lectures is not encouraged if you're not registered/enrolled in the subject. Safety for our students and staff is our number 1 priority and while we understand LiquidPaperz you would like a sneak peak, there are other options like Course Information Day and free online courses which provide a similar experience.

- Bronwyn and Miriam

Hi Bronwyn and Miriam,

I'm currently in 1st year biomed, doing the Bioengineering Systems pathway, and trying to decide between majors for my degree. The ones that I'm most interested in (Bioengineering Systems, or Microbiology & Immunology) both have prerequisites that have to be done in 2nd semester of 2nd year.

I'd really like to be able to keep my options open until 3rd year if I can, though, so would I be allowed to do two selectives in 2nd year (and no breadth), and make up for the missed breadth subject in 3rd year?

Thanks heaps :D

Hi Nikoli,

When it comes to course structure, it’s best to get advice from your Student Centre. The Bachelor of Biomedicine is a very structured course and making changes to your breadth could have implications for other components in your Study Plan. Information about booking an appointment with a Biomed course advisor is available here.

It sounds like you’ve already done some research, but if you haven’t already, check out these resources: 2015 Handbook and Major areas of study

Sorry we can’t give you more specific information, but the advisers at the Medicine Dentistry and Health Sciences Student Centre are super knowledgeable and are experts in course planning, plus they have the ability to adjust your Study Plan if required.

- Miriam

Hi Unimelb,

Is there anyway I can book a course advice appointment to see if I meet the prerequisites for science with my Uni subjects? I don't want to pay the late vtac fee if I don't meet them.

Also, is it possible to graduate from a Unimelb science degree after only studying there for one year and gaining credit for two years worth of science subjects from another Uni?

Hi atar100,

If you're in Melbourne, the fastest way to get info about your options is to visit the Information Centre on Swanston street (opposite the main unimelb tram stop) and speak with the Admissions staff. While they may not be able to give you any guarantees they can give you a better sense of your eligibility. They're open 8am-6pm, Monday to Friday. No appointments needed.

In the meantime, you can see what credit you may be eligible for by using the Credit calculator. Please note, decisions regarding credit are only made after an offer of a place in the course has been made. The University's credit policy (MPF1037) states that "The maximum credit for incomplete prior studies towards a three-year bachelor degree is 200 points, which will normally comprise 150 points towards the core component and 50 points towards the breadth component". 100 points is generally equivalent to 1 year of full time study.

Hope this helps!

- Miriam and Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: literally lauren on October 21, 2014, 10:18:08 am
Hey guys,
Just wondering if the credit distribution per semester is negotiable?

Got this message when trying to enroll. I put some June/July subjects down, so it's not like I've got 6 per semester or anything.
Plus I doubt those extra 1.7 credits will kill me :p
 
Quote
Error
Your currently enrolled Credit Points and your selected components for enrolment totals 58.0 Credit Points. The maximum allowable is 56.3 Credit Points for Semester 2. Please remove some components from your Potential Enrolment List.

Is it worth talking to my student centre or would that be a waste of time?

Cheers!
Lauren
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: allstar on October 21, 2014, 10:41:44 am
hi unimelb,
is there any breadths i can take that are related to the radiography/sonography department?

thank you
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 21, 2014, 12:13:30 pm
Hey guys,
Just wondering if the credit distribution per semester is negotiable?

Got this message when trying to enroll. I put some June/July subjects down, so it's not like I've got 6 per semester or anything.
Plus I doubt those extra 1.7 credits will kill me :p
 
Is it worth talking to my student centre or would that be a waste of time?

Cheers!
Lauren


Hi literally lauren,

We’re sorry to hear you received an error when attempting to enrol into your subjects online. It’s definitely worth speaking to your Student Centre and not a waste of time! Course advisers have the ability to manually enrol you into subjects if required and can provide advice to make sure your study plan is done correctly.

Some Student Centres have an online form that you can submit for a request to overload, for instance Arts. If you're not sure about how your Student Centre processes overload requests, you can either send an email to [email protected] from your student account (including your Student ID) with the details of your issue so this can be forwarded to your Student Centre, or alternatively you can speak to a Student Adviser at your Student Centre for help with enrolling in your subjects.

I hope you find this information useful!

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: literally lauren on October 21, 2014, 01:20:01 pm
Awesome, thanks Bronwyn! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LiquidPaperz on October 21, 2014, 01:32:25 pm
Thanks Unimelb, ill go to those course information sessions sometime.

Additionally i was wondering what the criterion is to be listed as a disadvantaged school on your website, my school is on their but is quite a good school. Is it maybe because their is a small quantity that choose to go to UoM?
How can it benefit students like myself when enrolling?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: IndefatigableLover on October 21, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Thanks Unimelb, ill go to those course information sessions sometime.

Additionally i was wondering what the criterion is to be listed as a disadvantaged school on your website, my school is on their but is quite a good school. Is it maybe because their is a small quantity that choose to go to UoM?
How can it benefit students like myself when enrolling?
This question was answered a few days ago by Unimelb! I'm pretty sure that 'disadvantaged school' and 'under-represented school' are the same thing in this case:

Hi Rod,

The under-represented schools SEAS category is defined as Victorian schools that have an average of 20 or more Year 12 VTAC applicants per year over the past three years and:
  • have 61% or fewer applicants enrolled in a tertiary institution and 14% or fewer of these enrolled at the University of Melbourne, or;
  • have between 61% and 78% of applicants enrolled in a tertiary institution and 8% or fewer of these enrolled at the University of Melbourne
While this category isn’t an eligible criteria for Guaranteed Entry, if your sister has submitted a SEAS application (before 5pm on Tuesday 7 October) then her application will be assessed for other Access Melbourne benefits such as Access Melbourne Scholarships.

Applicants eligible for the Under-represented school category will be considered on an individual basis by the University, however it’s not possible to predict in advance the difference their SEAS application will make. Please be assured that each SEAS application is considered individually by the University.

- Bronwyn
More info on Scholarships are located here <---
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 21, 2014, 03:55:59 pm
Hi UoM, I'm 15 and I REALLY REALLY want to be a doctor, is there anything i can do now (for example have a meeting with the head of the medical department) that could help me become a doctor later on? I'd also love to do the KLD program but i'm not that much of a leader at my school as i'm a new student. Thanks, TheAspiringDoc

Hi TheAspiringDoc,

It's great to hear you have such drive and ambition at a young age! What you can do now to help your chances is to focus on your high school studies. To get more of a feel for the University and undergraduate courses and pathways to the Doctor of Medicine, have a look at our Future Students website. You may also like to attend events like Course Information Day (17 December) and Open Day (usually in August each year) which allow you to visit the campus and meet Faculty staff.

The Kwong Lee Dow Young Scholars Program is a great opportunity for high-achieving students to experience university life early. Leadership potential is one of the eligibility requirements, however it doesn't have to be school activities; it can be community work, cultural, environmental or sporting activities. You may want to approach someone at your school to clarify their nomination and endorsement process and to find out how you can get involved in school activities. Check out the full eligibility criteria here.

- Miriam
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 21, 2014, 03:56:35 pm
hi unimelb,
is there any breadths i can take that are related to the radiography/sonography department?

thank you

Hi allstar,

I’ve had a search in the Handbook and unfortunately can’t seem to locate any radiology or sonography-related breadth subjects on offer.  Depending on which course you study at the University, different breadth subjects may be available to you. Visit here for more information on how breadth subjects work.

While there isn’t radiology or sonography study options at an Undergrad level, the Master of Medicine (Radiology) is a Graduate level study option for radiology. As per our previous post, we do offer Sonography courses however only qualified doctors are eligible for these programs. If you are looking to explore your undergraduate study options, please try using our Course Search website.

If you’d like to have a good look through all subjects offered, you can visit our Handbook and use the search filters to narrow down to your interests.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 21, 2014, 04:00:00 pm
Thanks Unimelb, ill go to those course information sessions sometime.

Additionally i was wondering what the criterion is to be listed as a disadvantaged school on your website, my school is on their but is quite a good school. Is it maybe because their is a small quantity that choose to go to UoM?
How can it benefit students like myself when enrolling?

This question was answered a few days ago by Unimelb! I'm pretty sure that 'disadvantaged school' and 'under-represented school' are the same thing in this case:
More info on Scholarships are located here <---

Hi LiquidPaperz,

IndefatigableLover took the words right out of my mouth! I hope the information I provided on 14/10/2014 was helpful :). If you would like to find out more about the benefits of applying under Special Access categories, please visit our Future Students page on our Access Melbourne Program.

- Bronwyn
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: basicm8 on October 21, 2014, 05:22:55 pm
University of Melbourne,

I am a 1st year undergraduate student and I am currently studying Science and throughout the year I've started to realise that Science isn't the area of study for me and i'm hoping to transfer to Commerce.
I have applied via VTAC and it says it takes ATAR and GPA into consideration. I was wondering how much the ATAR and GPA are weighted respectively in the selection process. My ATAR is relatively higher than the cut-off for 2013 and probably 2014, (97.75) but I am not doing so well in my science subjects at university, and I was wondering what GPA I need to get to get into commerce.

EDIT: I also have another question regarding Credit of the subjects that I do this year. If I transfer to Commerce, what happens to the breadth subjects I've completed this year? Do they contribute to my GPA? And what happens to the subjects that I've completed but dont need for commerce (e.g. Biology)? Do they still show up in my transcript?

Thanks!
Basicm8
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on October 28, 2014, 10:12:23 am
Hi, it's Carol here! Hope everyone's going well with exam prep - I'm here from 10-4 today to answer any questions.


I have applied via VTAC and it says it takes ATAR and GPA into consideration. I was wondering how much the ATAR and GPA are weighted respectively in the selection process. My ATAR is relatively higher than the cut-off for 2013 and probably 2014, (97.75) but I am not doing so well in my science subjects at university, and I was wondering what GPA I need to get to get into commerce.

EDIT: I also have another question regarding Credit of the subjects that I do this year. If I transfer to Commerce, what happens to the breadth subjects I've completed this year? Do they contribute to my GPA? And what happens to the subjects that I've completed but dont need for commerce (e.g. Biology)? Do they still show up in my transcript?


Hi basicm8,

When assessing tertiary transfer applications, Selection Officers consider a variety of factors, including:


For this reason, we are unable to provide a specific answer as to how ATAR and GPA will be weighted respectively. However, we can advise that the rough, indicative GPA for entry in 2013 was 5.5 for the Bachelor of Commerce, as calculated by VTAC out of 7.
http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/entry-req/gpa.html

As the indicative GPA varies at each intake, applications are assessed on a case-by-case basis!

Yes, the breadth subjects you have completed will contribute to your GPA. If you are successful in being offered a place for Commerce, you can then apply for Advanced Standing (credit). It’s up to the Faculty to decide how to allocate credit e.g. for a specific subject, a component or general credit. You may want to consult the credit calculator as a guide: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/credit_calculator.

Your Academic Transcript shows a complete history of your studies at the University of Melbourne across all courses. A full list of the content that will appear on your Transcript is included on the eCart website http://ecommerce.studentadmin.unimelb.edu.au/product.asp?pID=12&cID=6&c=284040
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 04, 2014, 10:00:57 am
It's looking a bit quiet this week... nevertheless, Carol and Miriam are here to answer any questions about the University from 10-4 today. Best of luck to everyone for their exams! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on November 05, 2014, 11:45:57 pm
It's looking a bit quiet this week... nevertheless, Carol and Miriam are here to answer any questions about the University from 10-4 today. Best of luck to everyone for their exams! :)
everyones busy studying for exams right now, expect the questions to ramp back up in a few weeks :P
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Scrono13 on November 05, 2014, 11:57:09 pm
Hi there,
I'm just wondering, if I do a bachelor of science at UoM next year, will I be able to do one single language thought the entirety of the course in addition? I'd like to study science, but also study Spanish.
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LeviLamp on November 06, 2014, 12:55:09 am
You can either do four to six language subjects as breadth alongside science classes, or enrol in a Diploma of Languages concurrently (which will extend your degree to an extra year if you don't overload on subject numbers during semester, but will mean you can do two to six breadth extra as well, depending on your choices). This is hard to explain, go check it out here:

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/D-LANG

http://arts.unimelb.edu.au/arts-student-centre/options/diploma-languages

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/faces/htdocs/user/breadth/BreadthSearch.jsp

http://breadth.unimelb.edu.au/breadth/info/index.html
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheAspiringDoc on November 08, 2014, 03:19:39 pm
Hi Unimelb,
Why would someone want to study biomedicine over science?
It seems as though under the major focus of degree section science has all the stuff boomed has plus heaps more.
Is biomedicine a better prerequisite to post-graduate medicine?

See links:
http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/undergrad/1510-bachelor-of-science
http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/undergrad/1504-bachelor-of-biomedicine
Thanks, TheAspiringDoc
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: nhmn0301 on November 08, 2014, 07:05:59 pm
Hi Unimelb,
Is it true that international student can receive their uni offer 5 days after VCE results come out? I remember it is around 21st of December or something but still not sure.
Thanks for the help :D!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uoiea on November 10, 2014, 12:02:57 am
Hi,
If I were to do 1 year of Science / a Science related degree at another institution, and I successfully transferred into Melbourne Science, would I have to complete 3 years at Melbourne or would the 1 year of Science at the other institution be taken into account, so that I do just 2 years?

Would this also be true/not true for midyear transfers?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Special At Specialist on November 10, 2014, 12:34:33 am
Hi,
If I were to do 1 year of Science / a Science related degree at another institution, and I successfully transferred into Melbourne Science, would I have to complete 3 years at Melbourne or would the 1 year of Science at the other institution be taken into account, so that I do just 2 years?

Would this also be true/not true for midyear transfers?

Thanks.

I can answer this:
Every subject is treated separately. You need to pass 24 subjects to get the Bachelor's Degree. When you transfer from another institution, some subjects will be credited and some subjects won't. If you're transferring from another Go8 university, such as Monash, then you can expect all of your subjects to be credited, since there is an agreement between the Go8 universities. But if you're transferring from one of the lower universities, then some of your subjects won't be recognised.

An example of this is: a friend of mine did a year at Victoria University and then transferred into BSci at UoM. Only 4/8 of her subjects were credited. This means that she still had another 2.5 years to go at Melbourne uni, when she would've finished in 2 more years at Vic Uni.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: gibbsy06 on November 10, 2014, 01:09:12 am
Hey,

Just got a question regarding transferring from Arts to Environments - I've made the decision to apply for a transfer via VTAC for Semester 1 entry next year. I got an ATAR well above the BA clearly-in in 2013 and averaged 73 during Semester 1. My average will be a bit lower this semester, however, I only did three subjects, meaning I've got 7 total. Does not having completed a full year of study (subjects-wise) mean that my ATAR will be given more weight in transferring? Obviously I know you can't comment too specifically without detailed knowledge but do my chances of transferring look positive?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Special At Specialist on November 11, 2014, 05:00:23 am


Thanks a lot!

So if I were to go to Monash, do half a year or a year of Science, could I go into Melbourne without having to waste extra years of my life provided I choose the correct subjects?

Yes.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 11, 2014, 10:00:38 am
Hi everyone, Carol and Miriam are here today from 10-4 to help answer your questions :)

everyones busy studying for exams right now, expect the questions to ramp back up in a few weeks :P

Yep... we definitely spoke too soon :P Here come another influx of questions! Hope you're going well with exams yourself spectroscopy.

- Carol

I'm just wondering, if I do a bachelor of science at UoM next year, will I be able to do one single language thought the entirety of the course in addition? I'd like to study science, but also study Spanish.

Hi JamiStorm,

Definitely! You should look into our Diploma of Languages, which gives you the opportunity to study a language and receive academic recognition for it, while doing your Bachelor degree.
http://arts.unimelb.edu.au/arts-student-centre/options/diploma-languages
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/current/D-LANG

Basically a DipLang works by adding 100 points of study to your degree, which adds one year to your three year science degree. If you are worried about complicating your degree, don't be - there are opportunities to accelerate your study time by overloading or fast-tracking subjects (doing an extra subject during the semester or one during the university holidays)... or you can just take your time and spread it out. 

Alternatively, you could select Spanish breadth subjects to maximise your knowledge of the language without adding another year to your undergraduate studies. This however, will not give you a legitimate qualification.
http://www.bsc.unimelb.edu.au/breadth-study

- Carol

Why would someone want to study biomedicine over science?
It seems as though under the major focus of degree section science has all the stuff boomed has plus heaps more.
Is biomedicine a better prerequisite to post-graduate medicine?

Hi TheAspiringDoc,

Nikoli is quite right, and yes, Science does have almost every major that's available in Biomedicine. A student may choose Biomed over Science because of a variety of factors that range from prestige, social circles to how certain they are about pursuing a medicine-related science. On the other hand, a student may choose Science over Biomed because they are interested in a spectrum of the sciences and are looking to have more options open.

In regards to entry for post-grad medicine, there is no such thing as a 'better prerequisite', as it depends more on the successful completion of pre-requisite subjects + your GPA and GAMSAT performance.
http://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/study-here/doctor_of_medicine/selection_criteria

- Carol

Is it true that international student can receive their uni offer 5 days after VCE results come out? I remember it is around 21st of December or something but still not sure.

Hi nhmn0301!

According to the VTAC website, international early offers are emailed on 22 December while general international offers are out on 9 Jan. :)
http://www.vtac.edu.au/dates.html
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/accept-your-offer

The University usually sends an SMS notification shortly after offers are released via VTAC, followed by the Dean’s welcome email and the offer email. Depending on the volume and processing times, these are usually sent out within 48 hours of the VTAC release.

- Carol

If I were to do 1 year of Science / a Science related degree at another institution, and I successfully transferred into Melbourne Science, would I have to complete 3 years at Melbourne or would the 1 year of Science at the other institution be taken into account, so that I do just 2 years?
Would this also be true/not true for midyear transfers?

So if I were to go to Monash, do half a year or a year of Science, could I go into Melbourne without having to waste extra years of my life provided I choose the correct subjects?

Hi uoiea,

I can confirm Special At Specialist's answer is accurate. Depending on where you undertake the science degree and how similar the subjects you take are to those offered under the unimelb Bachelor of Science, some may be credited. This is also true for midyear transfers. If you complete some tertiary study, you might get credit for prior study (advanced standing). Up to two semesters of course credits can be granted if applicable.

http://ask.unimelb.edu.au/app/answers/detail_future-students/a_id/113
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/credit_calculator

Make sure you check the credit calculator (linked above) and refer to more detailed information about credit for previous tertiary study: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/applications/other-applications/transferring-course.

- Carol

Just got a question regarding transferring from Arts to Environments - I've made the decision to apply for a transfer via VTAC for Semester 1 entry next year. I got an ATAR well above the BA clearly-in in 2013 and averaged 73 during Semester 1. My average will be a bit lower this semester, however, I only did three subjects, meaning I've got 7 total. Does not having completed a full year of study (subjects-wise) mean that my ATAR will be given more weight in transferring? Obviously I know you can't comment too specifically without detailed knowledge but do my chances of transferring look positive?

Hi gibbsy06,

Not necessarily. There are also other factors that selection officers consider, apart from your ATAR and current average. This includes:
-   Results for particularly relevant tertiary subjects
-   Satisfaction of prerequisite subjects (either in Year 12 or in subsequent tertiary study)
-   How recently the study was undertaken
-   The number of places available in the course
-   The calibre of other applicants in that intake

I can advise that the rough, indicative GPA for entry in 2013 Sem 1 was 4.0 for Bachelor of Environments.
http://www.vtac.edu.au/who/entry-req/gpa.html

You're right - although I can't provide a specific answer as to how ATAR and GPA will be weighted respectively, I can encourage you to apply regardless. Applications are assessed on a case-by-case basis so just give it a go :)
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/applications/other-applications/transferring-course

- Carol
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on November 11, 2014, 01:39:44 pm
Hi, I have another question regarding the concurrent diploma of Mathematical Sciences. With the 2015 handbook released https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/D-MATHSC, there are new conditions under the entry requirements section.
I'm wondering how competitive it is in order to get into the Diploma and is there a certain average I need to have in order to be selected, or do they only look at my subject scores for Maths subjects that I have completed?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Special At Specialist on November 11, 2014, 03:30:52 pm
I have a question:

How forgiving are you with people who fail subjects? Because someone I know failed 2/4 subjects last semester and got given the status of "at risk". He only took 3 subjects this semester and he thinks he failed at least 2, if not all 3 of them. Is he going to get kicked out of the university? Will he be given an opportunity to appeal to keep his place?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 11, 2014, 04:20:04 pm
I have a question:

How forgiving are you with people who fail subjects? Because someone I know failed 2/4 subjects last semester and got given the status of "at risk". He only took 3 subjects this semester and he thinks he failed at least 2, if not all 3 of them. Is he going to get kicked out of the university? Will he be given an opportunity to appeal to keep his place?

Hi Special At Specialist,

Sounds like you friend is having a rough time with his university studies at the moment. If he is still in the middle of assessments, we recommend seeking help from Academic Skills, and looking into Special Consideration if there are any short-term circumstances that are reasonably beyond his control that have impacted his studies.

If a student is considered 'at risk' they will be asked to meet with a course adviser to discuss their academic progress and get advice about support services. This is designed to help get them back on track. In more serious cases of unsatisfactory progress, the student may be asked to attend a formal interview with the Academic Progress Committee, after which the Committee may decide to impose conditions/restrictions on enrolment or recommend termination from their course if necessary. Here's some additional info about Unsatisfactory Progress including a definition of 'at risk': http://ask.unimelb.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/2947

- Miriam
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 11, 2014, 05:09:08 pm
Hi, I have another question regarding the concurrent diploma of Mathematical Sciences. With the 2015 handbook released https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/D-MATHSC, there are new conditions under the entry requirements section.
I'm wondering how competitive it is in order to get into the Diploma and is there a certain average I need to have in order to be selected, or do they only look at my subject scores for Maths subjects that I have completed?

Hi notveryasian,

I've checked with the Science Student Centre and to apply for the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences, you just need to: be enrolled in an undergraduate degree, not intend to complete the Mathematics/Statistics or Mathematical Physics major, and have a study score of 30 in VCE Specialist Mathematics (3&4) or equivalent (e.g. Calculus 1). When assessing your application, the University will look at your past academic performance mostly to get an indication of your ability to undertake the Diploma. There are some extra details about how to apply on the Science Student Centre website.

Hope this helps!

- Miriam
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Teba on November 12, 2014, 10:55:37 pm
Hi univirsity of Melbourne,
I applied for the KLD program and i was just wondering if i can get my results?
im so nervous and excited!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: IndefatigableLover on November 12, 2014, 10:59:48 pm
Hi univirsity of Melbourne,
I applied for the KLD program and i was just wondering if i can get my results?
im so nervous and excited!!
You'll find out in two days Teba :)
Have a look on the side of the webpage in this link and you'll see the dates!

Good luck :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: InNeedForHelp on November 12, 2014, 11:21:32 pm
Hey University of Melbourne,

Do you recommend year 9/10 students to give a considerate amount of thought in to what uni/course they want to pursue?

I think I spend a little too much time thinking about my future..

Also, by any chance in the future will you guys be enhancing your Athletics scholarship/benefit program for state/national level runners  ::)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: itsdanny on November 12, 2014, 11:37:44 pm
Hey University of Melbourne,

Do you recommend year 9/10 students to give a considerate amount of thought in to what uni/course they want to pursue?

I think I spend a little too much time thinking about my future..

I do not see that as a bad thing at all, good on you. For your information, most students in your age group have not even thought about it.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: soNasty on November 13, 2014, 12:16:13 am
Hi UniMelb,

Can special consideration (under represented school) be applicable to those wishing to get into a chancellor's scholars program for bachelor of science?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bts on November 13, 2014, 01:56:15 pm
Hi University of Melbourne
whats the difference between selective and breadth?
are breadths compulsory?

thank you
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheAspiringDoc on November 13, 2014, 05:41:23 pm
I do not see that as a bad thing at all, good on you. For your information, most students in your age group have not even thought about it.
I disagree, too much thought makes it hard to sleep and you (or at least I) spend more time worrying than studying..
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Scrono13 on November 14, 2014, 04:42:23 pm
How do I actually apply for the diploma of Languges? Are there any requirements that need to be met?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 18, 2014, 09:29:28 am
Hi, Miriam and Carol here today. Thanks for all the questions during the week! Here are some answers:

I applied for the KLD program and i was just wondering if i can get my results?
im so nervous and excited!!

You'll find out in two days Teba :)
Have a look on the side of the webpage in this link and you'll see the dates!
 

Hi Teba,

IndefatigableLover beat us to your question (Thanks :) )! But yes, you should've gotten your application outcome on Friday 14 November. Hope it turned out well!

- Carol

Do you recommend year 9/10 students to give a considerate amount of thought in to what uni/course they want to pursue?

I think I spend a little too much time thinking about my future..

Also, by any chance in the future will you guys be enhancing your Athletics scholarship/benefit program for state/national level runners  ::)?

Hi InNeedForHelp,

Although you're still young, it's great that you're taking the initiative to consider your university/course options. Nothing wrong with a bit of early planning! Just remember not to overthink and/or stress out about it - various things can happen or change unexpectedly within the course of 2-3 years, and I completely understand the frustration that may come with deviating from the original study/career plan. I think the best thing you can do is experiment: whether it be with the highschool classes you are currently taking, checking our our Open Days, or like Nikoli mentioned, gaining some work experience or volunteeering in areas you're interested in. See if you can approach some people to talk about their careers and give you advice. Just be flexible with your expectations for yourself, and you will be fine. :)

As to whether unimelb will be enhancing athletic scholarship programs for state/national level runners, we cannot say for sure! Have you had a look at the Elite Athletes Entry Scheme or our Sport Scholarship program?
Visit the Elite Athletes and Artistic Performers Entry Scheme website
More info on the Elite Athlete Program

- Carol

Can special consideration (under represented school) be applicable to those wishing to get into a chancellor's scholars program for bachelor of science?

Hi soNasty,

Unfortunately, special consideration (Access Melbourne scheme) for an under-represented school is not applicable to Chancellor's Scholars Programs in general.
More info on Access Melbourne eligibility criteria

-Carol

whats the difference between selective and breadth?
are breadths compulsory?

Hi bts,

Depending on what course you choose, there will be a selection of compulsory and elective subjects you will have to choose from, in order to achieve the necessary points to go towards completion of your degree. Check out the Handbook for further details.

Breadth subjects are separate to this and allow you to study 4-6 subjects outside of your degree. For instance, if you are doing a Bachelor of Science, you may want to look into Commerce or Arts subjects to take as breadth. Perhaps you would like to study a language outside a non-Arts degree - you could easily do so by selecting language subjects as breadth. And yes, they are compulsory because the points accumulated also go towards the completion of your degree!

Read more on ask.unimelb
Read more in the Handbook about breadth

- Carol

How do I actually apply for the diploma of Languges? Are there any requirements that need to be met?

Hi JamiStorm,

Applications will open at the start of each semester. You would apply for the diploma at my.unimelb.edu.au (under the Admin tab) once you have access to your student account. For new students, applications open 20 January and close 20 February!
More information about the Diploma of Languages

There are no prerequisites for the Diploma in Languages, and can be taken by students without previous language training. You will be considered for entry if you have concurrent enrolment in a UoM undergraduate degree. However, this does not guarantee selection as the Selection Committee will consider prior academic performance in ranking applications. Quotas may also apply for each language stream.
View the Handbook entry for the Diploma of Languages

Hope that helps!

- Carol

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Limista on November 19, 2014, 08:54:34 am
Hey,

So I'm about to re-enrol in my subjects for 2nd year biomed (starting 2015). 

When I view my study planner, the subjects I have enrolled in have been greened off. However, I'm just wondering what an 'enrolment declaration' is...I'm pretty sure I've already read these terms and conditions before ticking the boxes - is that what it is?

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: silverpixeli on November 21, 2014, 01:16:39 pm
Hey,

So I'm about to re-enrol in my subjects for 2nd year biomed (starting 2015). 

When I view my study planner, the subjects I have enrolled in have been greened off. However, I'm just wondering what an 'enrolment declaration' is...I'm pretty sure I've already read these terms and conditions before ticking the boxes - is that what it is?

Thanks  :)

Hey I have the exact same question, the page says we need to
Quote
  • Submit your Enrolment Declaration, and
  • Enrol in all of your 2015 subjects for each half year period (ie. Semester 1 and 2) and/or apply for Leave of Absence to take a break from your studies.
I've done the latter but I haven't seen anything about an enrolment declaration. Is it maybe just a first year thing?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LOLs99 on November 21, 2014, 01:27:50 pm
Hi,

If I do a level 1 breath in third year of my undergraduate degree, does it count towards my 65% average for  admission into master of engineering? It says the last 2 years of your degree.

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Sereval on November 21, 2014, 01:54:40 pm
Hi,

If I do a level 1 breath in third year of my undergraduate degree, does it count towards my 65% average for  admission into master of engineering? It says the last 2 years of your degree.

Thanks
pretty sure it's your last 200 points, so yeah it would

although I haven't double checked that, just from what I remember
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Limista on November 21, 2014, 02:01:35 pm
Hey I have the exact same question, the page says we need toI've done the latter but I haven't seen anything about an enrolment declaration. Is it maybe just a first year thing?

I'm not 100% sure, which is why I thought I'd ask, since I don't want to pay the fee.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stick on November 21, 2014, 02:07:45 pm
http://ask.unimelb.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/5036/kw/enrolment%20declaration/session/L3RpbWUvMTQxNjUzOTE5Ny9zaWQvYmxoZ0pYN20%3D

I think it's just reading those terms and ticking the boxes.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LOLs99 on November 21, 2014, 02:16:16 pm
pretty sure it's your last 200 points, so yeah it would

although I haven't double checked that, just from what I remember

haha okay, thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 25, 2014, 10:03:02 am
Hi everyone - it's Carol and Miriam here today. Hope you've all been well!

So I'm about to re-enrol in my subjects for 2nd year biomed (starting 2015). 
When I view my study planner, the subjects I have enrolled in have been greened off. However, I'm just wondering what an 'enrolment declaration' is...I'm pretty sure I've already read these terms and conditions before ticking the boxes - is that what it is?

Hey I have the exact same question, the page says we need toI've done the latter but I haven't seen anything about an enrolment declaration. Is it maybe just a first year thing?

Hi Starfish and silverpixeli,

When students go to their study plan to re-enrol they would have been prompted to view and submit their enrolment declaration, (involves agreeing to the terms & conditions of enrolment at the university) before they are able to access their study plan to enrol. So technically both of you should have already done it!

Nope, it is not just a first year thing. Students are only required to submit an enrolment declaration once per year. If you are unsure whether you’ve submitted it or not, you can go to the eStudent link for Terms & Conditions Agreement History under the Details tab. Or if in the portal, go to the Student Admin tab and find the View my previous declarations.

http://ask.unimelb.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/5036/~/enrolment-declaration

- Carol

If I do a level 1 breath in third year of my undergraduate degree, does it count towards my 65% average for admission into master of engineering? It says the last 2 years of your degree.
 

Hi LOLs99,

Actually the Melbourne School of Engineering has recently changed their entry requirements so that they will be looking at the overall score from your previous degree, not just the last 2 years. For applications from UOM students for 2015 we will use the Weighted Average Mark (WAM), however if this falls below the required 65% then we will use all level 2 and 3 subjects including fails. If this also falls below 65% then you would not be eligible for the program. Hence, we would suggest that you do a level 2/3 breadth in your third year of undergrad.

- Carol
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: gibbsy06 on November 25, 2014, 12:30:05 pm
Just following up my question of a couple of weeks ago - is there a page where the indicative transfer GPA's for all UniMelb undergrad courses are published for this and previous years?

Also - are you allowed to study as many breadths on Exchange as you like, as long as they are accredited and signed off on by UniMelb?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: psyxwar on November 25, 2014, 01:29:09 pm
Just wondering if I do a bachelor of science at UoM if the extension units I did at Monash this year (CHM1011 and CHM1022) would be credited? These units are roughly, but not exactly, equivalent to first year science units CHEM10003 and CHEM10004
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on November 26, 2014, 06:00:03 pm
Hi uoiea,

This is Matthew from the Office of Admissions.

Hi,
so I've been using the Credit Calculator and it seems that quite a few subjects (~50%?) don't even grant credit even though they're listed, shown as

A: "Based on the selections you have made there are no programs for which Credit for Previous Study is known to be granted."

followed by

B: "NOTE - A blank search result does not mean that credit/advanced standing will not be granted. A formal decision will be made once you have submitted a course application and an application for credit/advanced standing."

does this mean that subjects which fall under A can possibly be eligible for credit? What are the chances if this is the case?

My aim is probably to do a course at another Uni before transferring to UoM if I want to, but I am certainly not keen on having to do extra years in university

A blank search result does not mean that credit/advanced standing will not be granted, it just means that the University has not yet published credit arrangements for that particular course/subject. You can potentially try and check with the Faculty you plan on studying at about individual subjects.

In general terms, credit will usually be granted to a successful domestic undergraduate transfer applicant if they have recently completed undergraduate subjects that are from a cognate discipline and are at the same level (first-year to first-year, for example). Final decisions regarding credit are only made after an offer of a place in the course has been made.


Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LOLs99 on November 30, 2014, 02:32:02 am

Hi LOLs99,

Actually the Melbourne School of Engineering has recently changed their entry requirements so that they will be looking at the overall score from your previous degree, not just the last 2 years. For applications from UOM students for 2015 we will use the Weighted Average Mark (WAM), however if this falls below the required 65% then we will use all level 2 and 3 subjects including fails. If this also falls below 65% then you would not be eligible for the program. Hence, we would suggest that you do a level 2/3 breadth in your third year of undergrad.

- Carol

So when u say 65% , does it mean u need an average of 65(third class honours). How do you really calculate GPA or WAM? Is it like an average of all your subject grades?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rishi97 on December 02, 2014, 12:28:19 pm
Hi UoM

I am interested in your Bachelor of Science course.  I am a KLD scholar and also attended an underrepresented school.  Could you please let me know roughly the atar that would me required to get in?

Thanks heaps
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rod on December 02, 2014, 01:17:09 pm
Hi,
My school is listed in the under-represented list. http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/access_melbourne_and_equity_programs/access-melbourne/eligibility-criteria/under-represented-schools

What does this actually mean? And how will this help me when I apply for courses in UoM?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: tomash95 on December 06, 2014, 03:00:00 am
Hi,
My school is listed in the under-represented list. http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/access_melbourne_and_equity_programs/access-melbourne/eligibility-criteria/under-represented-schools

What does this actually mean? And how will this help me when I apply for courses in UoM?

Thanks
It means you're able to get into courses using Access Melbourne. Look at the undergraduate courses on the main website and see what they are. For example, you'll need 79 to get into Science rather than a 85-92.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: soNasty on December 10, 2014, 12:04:14 am
It means you're able to get into courses using Access Melbourne. Look at the undergraduate courses on the main website and see what they are. For example, you'll need 79 to get into Science rather than a 85-92.

Hi, my school is in the under represented schools list as well. Is this access melbourne thing guaranteed because of this? ive applied for seas.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sjayne on December 10, 2014, 01:31:55 am
I thought that (for example science) the atar for underrepresented schools was higher than the 78 and actually about 85?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: tomash95 on December 10, 2014, 03:16:19 pm
Er, my bad. Yeah, it's 85 minimum for any subset of the Access Melbourne list other than the two which get you in with a 79. No where is this made clear on the Melb course search pages, though.

From what I was told about AM coming from an under-represented school myself, they basically have a set quota of kids they want to accept under the grounds of Access Melbourne. Say they set aside 20% of the Science course @ Melb for AM kids, they'll arrange you in a list of your ATARs below the 92 clearly in and go down the list. If the last seat is taken by a kid who got 85.55 and your score was 85.50 ... well, too bad. There's sure to be much more criteria weighed than just ATAR (for example, if you got 86 despite scoring a 48 in Biology that was brought down by your 25 Legal Studies score, they'll probably want you in their Science course). It's by no means a gurantee, it's a consideration. I had a good friend from last year who wanted to go to Melbourne too but she scored lower than the minimum and had to settle with Monash despite applying for AM.

Most of my friends slacked off and only put in enough effort to get above the 85, but I kind of went overboard and scored a 93. Too much effort for a score that meant nothing, honestly, but I guess it's too late for me to recommend you try your hardest regardless of Access Melbourne. :V
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mvajpayee on December 10, 2014, 04:54:18 pm
Hi!
I just had one quick question. When applying for uni, is it compulsory to have a tax file number? I am a permanent resident, so I am aware that I am not eligible for the HECS-HELP. I know that I have to make the Student Contribution upfront. So I do need to provide them with one, given that I will not be granted any loan and would be making the student contribution before the Census Date?
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 15, 2014, 10:24:01 am
Hey all, Carl here. First of all, congratulations to everyone, hopefully you got the ATAR you were after!

I am interested in your Bachelor of Science course.  I am a KLD scholar and also attended an underrepresented school.  Could you please let me know roughly the atar that would me required to get in?

As a KLD scholar from an under-represented school, you're guaranteed a place in the Bachelor of Science provided you've met the other prerequisites for the course. You can take a look at the other benefits you'll get as KLD scholar now that you're moving on to University here.

My school is listed in the under-represented list. What does this actually mean? And how will this help me when I apply for courses in UoM?

When we look at applications, we'll take into account the school you went to, and potentially make an offer even if you're below the clearly-in score in the year you apply as part of Access Melbourne. Students in the rural/isolated and disadvantaged financial background categories may be eligible for guaranteed entry to courses provided they meet a minimum ATAR. For students in other categories, like you, we'll assess based on all applications and determine whether your circumstances and ATAR combined make you eligible for an offer. You can double-check your eligibility for Access Melbourne here and find a few more detailed answers to FAQs here.

I just had one quick question. When applying for uni, is it compulsory to have a tax file number? I am a permanent resident, so I am aware that I am not eligible for the HECS-HELP. I know that I have to make the Student Contribution upfront. So I do need to provide them with one, given that I will not be granted any loan and would be making the student contribution before the Census Date?

You're exactly right; you won't need one as a permanent resident because you'll be paying upfront, even in a Commonwealth Supported Place. If you get Australian citizenship later on in your course and want to apply for HECS-HELP you'll need to provide one then.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Paulrus on December 15, 2014, 10:34:44 am
hey unimelb!
if i wanted to become a teacher qualified for vce level, and chose the pathway of a bachelor of arts and then a masters in teaching, would it matter what my major and minor were in my undergrad? or are you able to pick a specialist area during your masters?
i was thinking of teaching english but i wasn't sure if i need to major in english during undergrad for that to be an option.
thank you heaps!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 15, 2014, 10:47:48 am
Cut off for science last year was 92. Do you reckon it will be higher than 92 this yr? like much higher??

It's tough to say. The clearly-in is based on the applications in a given year, so it will almost always move a little based on who applies and the overall scores of these applicants, but this can go up or down. If you're above last year's clearly-in, it's still very much a realistic option for you, and definitely worth keeping in the mix.

if i wanted to become a teacher qualified for vce level, and chose the pathway of a bachelor of arts and then a masters in teaching, would it matter what my major and minor were in my undergrad? or are you able to pick a specialist area during your masters?
i was thinking of teaching english but i wasn't sure if i need to major in english during undergrad for that to be an option.
thank you heaps!

You don't necessarily need to major in English to become an English teacher, but you'll need to complete a certain number of subjects in related disciplines. If you take a look at the Master of Teaching's Secondary learning area guidelines you'll see the outlines of what's required for each discipline. If you accept an offer to study here, you'll get a chance at Academic Advice Day to go over this with a staff member who can help you plan the best sequence of subjects for you.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: nhmn0301 on December 15, 2014, 10:52:04 am
Hi, I received an email from Unimelb on 4 December about the Guaranteed entry score for international students, is this the 2015 one of just 2014? And does Unimelb provide early round offer for Biomedicine? Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Donatello_ on December 15, 2014, 10:53:38 am
Hey there, what ATAR would be required to get to Science having a SEAS application (difficult circumstances/ underrepresented school)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ecstasy on December 15, 2014, 11:02:08 am
Would it be at all possible to get into Melbourne Arts without SEAS with an 89.25 ? Pipe dream too far fetched?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lemonades on December 15, 2014, 11:05:41 am
Hi UniMelb

My sibling just got 99.6 and probably wants to do commerce, and I was wondering, are there any scholarships given for people who score above 99 or relatively high? Also, with the chancellors scholars program - is there any bonus 'aggregate' points given out for getting certain scores? (Like say a 50 in english?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 15, 2014, 12:25:47 pm
Hi, I received an email from Unimelb on 4 December about the Guaranteed entry score for international students, is this the 2015 one of just 2014? And does Unimelb provide early round offer for Biomedicine? Thanks.

I'm just checking on this with our team over at admissions, I'll get you an answer on this as soon as I hear back.

Hey there, what ATAR would be required to get to Science having a SEAS application (difficult circumstances/ underrepresented school)?

There's no guaranteed ATAR for these categories, and particularly with difficult circumstances it will depend a lot on the individual. There can be a fair amount of fluctuation though depending on your circumstances, so if you've submitted your SEAS through VTAC and meet the minimum requirements it's definitely worth considering putting as a preference.

Would it be at all possible to get into Melbourne Arts without SEAS with an 89.25 ? Pipe dream too far fetched?

Possible, yes, but it would be an outside chance. Clearly-in scores can go up and down, but it's unlikely that the clearly-in will drop 3 points from last year. There are other options, including transferring from another university mid-year or in 2016, so if you want to chat about these one on one it may be worth PMing, or (even better) heading to our course info day on Wednesday.

My sibling just got 99.6 and probably wants to do commerce, and I was wondering, are there any scholarships given for people who score above 99 or relatively high? Also, with the chancellors scholars program - is there any bonus 'aggregate' points given out for getting certain scores? (Like say a 50 in english?

There are academic merit scholarships, however it's unfortunately not likely that your sibling will qualify for one of these with a score of 99.6. We also have a range of equity scholarship, so depending on their background these might be an option. Finally there may be prizes and bursaries available from individual faculties, however these are normally awarded for outstanding academic performance during the degree, and not for Year 12 performance.

There aren't any aggregate points given for high-scoring subjects when looking at Chancellor's Scholar applications - we look at the ATAR as-is when determining eligibility.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jaysit97 on December 15, 2014, 12:36:03 pm
Hi Melbourne Uni!

I know that the clearly in for Commerce is 95 but are my chances of getting into commerce extremely slim with an atar of 93.25? Also, how difficult is it to switch from a bachelor of arts to a bachelor of commerce midyear? What would I need to do? Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on December 15, 2014, 12:54:22 pm
Hi! I know this question has been asked before but I just wanted some opinions on whether to take Bachelor of Biomedical Science or Science?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Sanguinne on December 15, 2014, 12:57:29 pm
Have the melbourne access scholarships been issued yet? If not, what date?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: nikegod on December 15, 2014, 01:03:13 pm
Hi Melbourne Uni!

I know that the clearly in for Commerce is 95 but are my chances of getting into commerce extremely slim with an atar of 93.25? Also, how difficult is it to switch from a bachelor of arts to a bachelor of commerce midyear? What would I need to do? Thanks!

Without some form of special consideration, it is pretty unlikely. I believe they are pretty strict about the 95 cutoff. To switch from arts to comm, you will need to average at least 75, but 80 or so should make you quite competitive. You could even do some comm subjects in breadth so you make the best use of the semester :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Eluminum on December 15, 2014, 01:08:35 pm
Hi UoM, do you notify applicants if their SEAS application is rejected/accepted?:)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 15, 2014, 02:40:31 pm
I know that the clearly in for Commerce is 95 but are my chances of getting into commerce extremely slim with an atar of 93.25? Also, how difficult is it to switch from a bachelor of arts to a bachelor of commerce midyear? What would I need to do? Thanks!

It'd certainly be tough to get in to Commerce with an ATAR of 93.25, and it's probably not very likely that the clearly-in's going to drop much this year. If it's what you really want to do though, you're above the minimum, so you may still choose to list it as a preference just in case.

It's possible to transfer from Arts to Commerce, although you'd want to get some advice before leaping into it, as your subjects might not all directly credit across. If you're free Wednesday, it'd be worth coming to campus and chatting to  staff from both faculties. If not, I'd suggest getting in touch with us through more official channels for more detailed course advice.

Have the melbourne access scholarships been issued yet? If not, what date?

Not yet. Usually recipients will be notified after VTAC offers are released. Which also leads to

Hi UoM, do you notify applicants if their SEAS application is rejected/accepted?:)

We don't usually let Access Melbourne applicants know if they've been unsuccessful in getting a scholarship. Your SEAS application will be considered when assessing you for every Melbourne course you've applied for, and if you don't receive an offer from us then unfortunately that means you weren't ranked highly enough in this year's intake even with Access Melbourne.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Adequace on December 15, 2014, 03:10:39 pm
My friend is looking to study Science at Melb Uni, however from my understanding the Clearly-In atar is 78+ unfortunately she received an atar of 78.30.

Is there still a chance of my friend getting in to Melbourne Uni? Are you able to reiveal statistics on how many people were able to study science without having a clearly-in atar?

She's really sensitive and in her perspective that's the only course she wants to do, I'm afraid of breaking the bad news to her if it won't be likely to get in  :-\

Edit: this is through Access Melbourne.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jaysit97 on December 15, 2014, 03:11:39 pm
Without some form of special consideration, it is pretty unlikely. I believe they are pretty strict about the 95 cutoff. To switch from arts to comm, you will need to average at least 75, but 80 or so should make you quite competitive. You could even do some comm subjects in breadth so you make the best use of the semester :)

Thanks for the reply and congrats on your atar mate :)


It'd certainly be tough to get in to Commerce with an ATAR of 93.25, and it's probably not very likely that the clearly-in's going to drop much this year. If it's what you really want to do though, you're above the minimum, so you may still choose to list it as a preference just in case.

It's possible to transfer from Arts to Commerce, although you'd want to get some advice before leaping into it, as your subjects might not all directly credit across. If you're free Wednesday, it'd be worth coming to campus and chatting to  staff from both faculties. If not, I'd suggest getting in touch with us through more official channels for more detailed course advice.

Not yet. Usually recipients will be notified after VTAC offers are released. Which also leads to

We don't usually let Access Melbourne applicants know if they've been unsuccessful in getting a scholarship. Your SEAS application will be considered when assessing you for every Melbourne course you've applied for, and if you don't receive an offer from us then unfortunately that means you weren't ranked highly enough in this year's intake even with Access Melbourne.

Okay thanks!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: 2NE1 on December 15, 2014, 03:21:40 pm
Will 99.45 guarantee entry into Biomedicine at Melbourne Uni?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lemonades on December 15, 2014, 03:27:50 pm
Hello Melbourne - does one need to be financially/economically/sociologically disadvantaged in order to get the 'national melbourne scholarship'

Would a 99.6 atar ALONE guarantee some form of national scholarship, or have a good chance of getting this scholarship?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: missdf13 on December 15, 2014, 03:31:32 pm
A 98+ ATAR is a guaranteed entry into Bachelor of Commerce, right? I don't need to worry about anything now yeah?  :D
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 15, 2014, 04:26:14 pm
My friend is looking to study Science at Melb Uni, however from my understanding the Clearly-In atar is 78+ unfortunately she received an atar of 78.30.
Is there still a chance of my friend getting in to Melbourne Uni? Are you able to reiveal statistics on how many people were able to study science without having a clearly-in atar?
Edit: this is through Access Melbourne.

If she's eligible for either the rural/isolated area or financial disadvantage categories, then she'll be fine with a 78.30. These two categories have guaranteed entry to the Bachelor of Science with an ATAR of 78.00 provided all the other prerequisites are met. If it's from any of the other categories, it'll depend a lot on her individual circumstances. She'll absolutely be considered, but it's not as certain that she'll get a place. If you're not sure about the categories this should be a handy resource.

Even if she doesn't make it in for Semester 1 2014, let her know that she shouldn't give up if she wants to study at Melbourne. There are other options, such as transferring from a degree at another institution in the future. She should get in touch with the University directly if she wants to chat about these options after VTAC offers are made.

Will 99.45 guarantee entry into Biomedicine at Melbourne Uni?

It won't guarantee it, but it'll certainly put you in with a very good chance. The clearly-in last year was 98.95, so you're comfortably above that.

Hello Melbourne - does one need to be financially/economically/sociologically disadvantaged in order to get the 'national melbourne scholarship'

Would a 99.6 atar ALONE guarantee some form of national scholarship, or have a good chance of getting this scholarship?

You don't have to come from a disadvantaged background - National Scholarships are awarded purely on academic merit.

A 99.6 may be a little on the low side to guarantee a National Scholarship. Unfortunately these are extremely competitive, and while 99.6 is an incredible score, it's probably not quite enough. The majority of other scholarships are equity-based (awarded to disadvantaged students), but take a look here to see if there are any smaller faculty or residential college scholarships that may be useful to you.

A 98+ ATAR is a guaranteed entry into Bachelor of Commerce, right? I don't need to worry about anything now yeah?  :D

Well, not guaranteed, but no, you don't need to worry much. That's healthily above last year's clearly-in, so you've got a very solid chance of receiving an offer.

Alright everyone, I'm heading off for the day, but we'll have people online tomorrow to answer more questions. Congratulations to all of you again, and have a great time tonight without the dreaded wait for results hanging over you! :D

- Carl
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Cheesecakelover on December 15, 2014, 04:29:18 pm
Hi UoM!

Is there any chance i won't be guaranteed a place in Commerce with an atar of 89.05 through Access melbourne?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lolalol on December 15, 2014, 05:31:35 pm
Hi Melbourne!

I was fortunate enough to achieve 99.85. Is there any chance of a National Scholarship or any other scholarship?

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: peepala on December 15, 2014, 05:33:51 pm
Is chemistry a prerequisite for the biomedicine course at UoM?
Is chemistry a prerequisite for the post grad doctor of veterinary science at UoM?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Lamajade on December 15, 2014, 06:30:35 pm
I got an 88.75, and have applied for the Bachelor of Arts. I am an Access Melbourne applicant, and received an email stating that a 78 guarantees me a spot in the Arts course if I'm eligible for the 'disadvantaged financial background' category. I applied for this category as my family receives Family Tax Benefit A - does this mean I have a guaranteed place? I meet the prerequisites for the course, and I also applied in the Personal Location (underrepresented school) and Difficult Circumstances SEAS categories. :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: tomash95 on December 15, 2014, 08:58:43 pm
Is chemistry a prerequisite for the biomedicine course at UoM?
Is chemistry a prerequisite for the post grad doctor of veterinary science at UoM?

"Units 3 & 4: A study score of at least 25 in English/English Language/Literature or at least 30 in EAL, and at least 25 in Chemistry and in Mathematical Methods (CAS) or Specialist Mathematics."

Post grad needs:

the Bachelor of Science, Bachelor of Biomedicine or Bachelor of Agriculture degree at the University of Melbourne, or an equivalent degree from another institution, including specified prerequisite subjects (at least one semester of study in biology and at least one semester of study in biochemistry);

So yes, to both. If you don't have Chemistry or can't get into Biomed, take the Fundamentals of Chemistry path.

You should learn to use the Handbook.

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MC-DVETMED

There are two post grads, by the way: Master of Vet. Science and Doctor of Vet. Medicine. Not sure which is the one you want.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: katiesaliba on December 15, 2014, 09:09:13 pm
If I got 0.95 below the clearly in ATAR for BSc and go to an underrepresented school, do I still have a relatively good chance of receiving an offer? If so, would I receive a first or second round offer? Thanks heaps :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uoiea on December 16, 2014, 02:02:04 am
Hi, I haven't applied for SEAS because I only recently found out that my family receives Tax Benefit A, and also I never realised Youth Allowance renders me eligible for Financial Disadvantage. Is there any chance I could somehow get this through for special consideration? I'm aware this is way past the deadline for SEAS.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 16, 2014, 10:54:36 am
Hey everyone, it's Carl here. Hope you all had a great night of celebrating. :)

Is there any chance i won't be guaranteed a place in Commerce with an atar of 89.05 through Access melbourne?

Congratulations on your score! :) If you meet the requirements for the rural/isolated or financial disadvantage categories, and you've got the prerequisite subjects, you're absolutely guaranteed a place in the Bachelor of Commerce with 89.05.

I was fortunate enough to achieve 99.85. Is there any chance of a National Scholarship or any other scholarship?

Congratulations, what a great score! You'll be considered, but it will depend on how many students we end up taking above that score. Unfortunately they're very competitive, so you may miss out at 99.85. There are a range of smaller faculty, residential and travel scholarships though, so have a look at these to see if you're eligible.

Is chemistry a prerequisite for the biomedicine course at UoM?
Is chemistry a prerequisite for the post grad doctor of veterinary science at UoM?

As tomash95 pointed out above, yes, you'll need Units 3+4 chemistry to be considered for the Bachelor of Biomedicine. The Doctor of Veterinary Medicine does require undergraduate level biochemistry, but don't stress if you want to end up there and haven't done 3+4 Chemistry. There's an introductory chemistry subject that will then let you take the sequence required to do biochemistry that you can do as part of the Bachelor of Science. If you receive an offer, you'll be able to chat about this with adviser and make sure you're taking the correct subjects.

I got an 88.75, and have applied for the Bachelor of Arts. I am an Access Melbourne applicant, and received an email stating that a 78 guarantees me a spot in the Arts course if I'm eligible for the 'disadvantaged financial background' category. I applied for this category as my family receives Family Tax Benefit A - does this mean I have a guaranteed place? I meet the prerequisites for the course, and I also applied in the Personal Location (underrepresented school) and Difficult Circumstances SEAS categories. :)

Congratulations! Yes, if you've applied under the financial difficulties SEAS category and are eligible (which based on what you've said, you are), you'll be guaranteed a place in the Bachelor of Arts for 2015 with that ATAR.

If I got 0.95 below the clearly in ATAR for BSc and go to an underrepresented school, do I still have a relatively good chance of receiving an offer? If so, would I receive a first or second round offer? Thanks heaps :)

It's tough to quantify how good your chances are without knowing how many Access applicants there are this year, but being that close to the clearly-in and eligible for Access Melbourne, it's definitely a realistic option. Good luck!

Hi, I haven't applied for SEAS because I only recently found out that my family receives Tax Benefit A, and also I never realised Youth Allowance renders me eligible for Financial Disadvantage. Is there any chance I could somehow get this through for special consideration? I'm aware this is way past the deadline for SEAS.

Unfortunately not. If you do miss out on an offer this year, get in touch and someone at the University can have a chat to you about applying again next year with the relevant SEAS application submitted. Good luck though, hopefully you'll be fine without it!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Scrono13 on December 16, 2014, 10:59:20 am
Since I'm eligible for access, and have an ATAR of 96.15, will I be competitive for the access scholarship?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: jameshalo22 on December 16, 2014, 11:08:32 am
Hi University of Melbourne,

I want to apply to transfer to the Bachelor of Commerce. I have read that 75% is considered competitive. What exactly does competitive mean in this context? So if we were successful in achieving a 75% average would we be likely to receive an offer? Also do i need to submit an academic transcript to Melbourne Uni if transferring from another university or would I give that to VTAC?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zues on December 16, 2014, 11:15:16 am
Hi UoM,

I have 2 questions, say i achieved an ATAR of 99.8/85, is it still possible to get a chancellors scholarship with
1) SEAS or Access Melbourne
2) A combination of both

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on December 16, 2014, 11:19:14 am
Thankyou for this btw!

I received an ATAR of 92.5 and am interested in doing a Bachelor of Commerce however the 'guide' clear entry is 93. Is that subject to change? I applied for SEAS as I come from an underrepresented school, is there much chance of my entry? Will the clearly in score be bumped up as last years was 95?

Again, thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Spxtcs on December 16, 2014, 11:31:48 am
Hi UoM,
These  questions may have been answered before but:

With an ATAR of 94.15 and SEAS for financial disadvantage (family tax A and B and a Centrelink payment + youth allowance obtained after the seas application was given in) is there any way of telling if I am still guaranteed a place in the bachelor of science (or biomedicine-I'm only 0.85 lower than the access melbourne 95 atar needed) for 2015 if the clearly in rises above 94.15? ( I'm asking about biomed too because the access melbourne document on your website says I am still considered if I fall below the access melbourne atars). Does being a UMEP student affect anything other than my Atar?

Also, if I couldn't get into either of those courses but got into environments or oral health, could I transfer to either of biomed or science? When would I need to do this and what subjects would I need to take/how would I do it?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sparked on December 16, 2014, 11:50:49 am
Hi UoM!

This is a great idea. My question is about the Biomedicine course structure.

If I took a diploma of languages (from 1st year, in a language NOT studied in my electives), would that necessarily mean my degree is 'overloaded' and extended to 4 years.

Also, when are Access Melbourne Scholarships announced? Is that just on Jan19th with university offers?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: katiesaliba on December 16, 2014, 01:35:51 pm
Is there any way of increasing one's chance of acceptance into Melbourne?  ::)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zues on December 16, 2014, 01:41:57 pm
Is there any way of increasing one's chance of acceptance into Melbourne?  ::)

Kwong Lee Dow scholarship, i was lucky enough to receive this in year 10!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: katiesaliba on December 16, 2014, 01:43:26 pm
Kwong Lee Dow scholarship, i was lucky enough to receive this in year 10!


...for those who haven't applied for a scholarship  :P
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Sanguinne on December 16, 2014, 02:16:05 pm
Would a high atar 98+ and financially disadvantaged be enough for a melbourne access scholarship?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 16, 2014, 02:54:15 pm
I want to apply to transfer to the Bachelor of Commerce. I have read that 75% is considered competitive. What exactly does competitive mean in this context? So if we were successful in achieving a 75% average would we be likely to receive an offer? Also do i need to submit an academic transcript to Melbourne Uni if transferring from another university or would I give that to VTAC?

When we say competitive, it usually means that we can't guarantee it but you'll have a pretty good chance. Like with applying out of Year 12, the actual score required fluctuates depending on the standard of all applicants. So yes, with a 75% average, there's a good chance you'd get an offer, but there's no guarantee. You won't need to submit an academic transcript, VTAC can access this when you apply. There's a full list of what VTAC can access when you apply here.

I have 2 questions, say i achieved an ATAR of 99.8/85, is it still possible to get a chancellors scholarship with
1) SEAS or Access Melbourne
2) A combination of both

Even with Access Melbourne, you need to meet the eligibility requirements as outlined here, so unless you're applying as an Indigenous student you unfortunately wouldn't be eligible for Chancellor's Scholars for any program except perhaps Bachelor of Music. If you were eligible and received a scholarship through the Chancellor's Scholars Program, you usually wouldn't also be awarded an Access scholarship.

Thankyou for this btw!

I received an ATAR of 92.5 and am interested in doing a Bachelor of Commerce however the 'guide' clear entry is 93. Is that subject to change? I applied for SEAS as I come from an underrepresented school, is there much chance of my entry? Will the clearly in score be bumped up as last years was 95?

Again, thanks!

No problem, it's a confusing time of year - happy to help.

Clearly-ins are subject to change depending on a whole bunch of factors including the number of applicants in a given year and the scores of those applying. Unfortunately, 93.00 is the minimum required score unless you fall under the rural/isolated or financial disadvantage categories for Access Melbourne, so in your case you wouldn't be eligible for [EDIT] the guaranteed pathway to the Bachelor of Commerce. As I've said to a couple of other people, there are still a number of options open if you want to study here, including transferring later on from another university. Once you've got a clearer idea of what you're doing next year, it's worth getting in touch and someone can talk you through options and advice.

With an ATAR of 94.15 and SEAS for financial disadvantage (family tax A and B and a Centrelink payment + youth allowance obtained after the seas application was given in) is there any way of telling if I am still guaranteed a place in the bachelor of science (or biomedicine-I'm only 0.85 lower than the access melbourne 95 atar needed) for 2015 if the clearly in rises above 94.15? ( I'm asking about biomed too because the access melbourne document on your website says I am still considered if I fall below the access melbourne atars). Does being a UMEP student affect anything other than my Atar?

Also, if I couldn't get into either of those courses but got into environments or oral health, could I transfer to either of biomed or science? When would I need to do this and what subjects would I need to take/how would I do it?

Based on that information, yes, you'd be eligible for a guaranteed spot in the Bachelor of Science with that ATAR and SEAS for financial disadvantage. Unfortunately you wouldn't be eligible for the Bachelor of Biomedicine, however if you went into Science and decided you still wanted Biomedicine next year you could always apply for a transfer. The UMEP question - I'll need to get back to you on that once I've checked with our UMEP team.

Even though you could get into Science, the answer to your other question isyes, you could apply for a transfer from either Environments or Oral Health, although if you were successful you probably wouldn't receive credit for all the study you undertook.

My question is about the Biomedicine course structure.

If I took a diploma of languages (from 1st year, in a language NOT studied in my electives), would that necessarily mean my degree is 'overloaded' and extended to 4 years.

Also, when are Access Melbourne Scholarships announced? Is that just on Jan19th with university offers?

I'm going to get back to you on the Dip. Lang. question. I think there may be a way to fast-track, but I've sent your question to the people over at the MDHS Student Centre to confirm.

Access scholarships aren't usually announced on the day you get your offer. They take a bit longer to finalise, so you'll normally find out within a few weeks of the offer.

Is there any way of increasing one's chance of acceptance into Melbourne?  ::)

Well, listing us as a preference is a good start. ;) But at this stage, not really. If you're not successful this time around, there are definitely things you can chat to us about to improve your application for next year though. Just get in touch after offers are made and someone can help out.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: nhmn0301 on December 16, 2014, 03:22:12 pm
Hi, I received an email from Unimelb on 4 December about the Guaranteed entry score for international students, is this the 2015 one of just 2014? And does Unimelb provide early round offer for Biomedicine? Thanks.
Hi, can I get an answer for this? :) Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sparked on December 16, 2014, 03:47:02 pm
When we say competitive, it usually means.... can help out.

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Buddyball on December 16, 2014, 05:05:27 pm
It is possible to get into Commerce at University of Melbourne, if I have an ATAR of 86.75, and I apply for SEAS under the categories: disadvantaged financial background and underrepresented school. The guaranteed entry for disadvantaged financial background is 88 and 86.75 is a tad lower than that, so I'm not sure if there's still a chance?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: turtlegirl on December 16, 2014, 05:38:12 pm
I'm in a similar position except I got 87.95  :-\ that 0.05 off the guarantee is going to keep me up until offers are sent out
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 16, 2014, 06:23:57 pm
Hi, I received an email from Unimelb on 4 December about the Guaranteed entry score for international students, is this the 2015 one of just 2014? And does Unimelb provide early round offer for Biomedicine? Thanks.

Just got an answer back. :) Unfortunately I couldn't work out which email you'd received, but for the Bachelor of Biomedicine in 2015 and 2016 a 96.00 is required for guaranteed entry. Let me know if that doesn't answer your question.

There's an early offer round for international students who've completed VCE this year and applied through VTAC, and all other offers for international applicants are released 9th January.

It is possible to get into Commerce at University of Melbourne, if I have an ATAR of 86.75, and I apply for SEAS under the categories: disadvantaged financial background and underrepresented school. The guaranteed entry for disadvantaged financial background is 88 and 86.75 is a tad lower than that, so I'm not sure if there's still a chance?
I'm in a similar position except I got 87.95  :-\ that 0.05 off the guarantee is going to keep me up until offers are sent out

Unfortunately that 88.00 is a minimum, and anyone below that won't be eligible for the Bachelor of Commerce. Get in touch with the people at 13 MELB though, they can put you in touch with advisers who can advise about transfer options and alternative entry pathways. There are plenty of other ways to get into the course you want further down the track. Good luck!

I'm off, but 'll be around tomorrow again. Tomorrow's also Course Information Day, both at Parkville and online, so that might help answer some questions too. :) - Carl
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on December 16, 2014, 09:50:37 pm


No problem, it's a confusing time of year - happy to help.

Clearly-ins are subject to change depending on a whole bunch of factors including the number of applicants in a given year and the scores of those applying. Unfortunately, 93.00 is the minimum required score unless you fall under the rural/isolated or financial disadvantage categories for Access Melbourne, so in your case you wouldn't be eligible for Bachelor of Commerce. As I've said to a couple of other people, there are still a number of options open if you want to study here, including transferring later on from another university. Once you've got a clearer idea of what you're doing next year, it's worth getting in touch and someone can talk you through options and advice.



Sorry to be a pain haha. Even though I come from an underrepresented school and applied for that SEAS, would I still be unable for a potential entry? 92.5 was my score and I was hoping SEAS would bump that up to the bare minimum of 93..? Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: soNasty on December 16, 2014, 10:54:26 pm
Hey unimelb, what is the clearly in ATAR for bachelor of science for 2015? Will 92.4 secure me in comfortably?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sparked on December 16, 2014, 11:09:32 pm
Do you think they'll know the ATAR clearly ins until the offers come out??
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on December 17, 2014, 12:05:46 am
No they won't release that information until the day offers come out. soNasty they won't tell you because they don't know yet.

Basically here's what you can 'guarantee' - assuming you are a domestic student who has fulfilled prerequisites and with no SEAS categories

90+ will almost definitely get you into the best degree (Environments)
95+ will almost definitely get you into Arts or Science
95 will GUARANTEE a spot in Commerce (If students achieve an ATAR or notional ATAR of 95.00 or above and satisfy the course prerequisites, they will be guaranteed a place in the BCom. Students with an ATAR above the minimum ATAR of 93.00 and below 95.00 may still be considered for a place in the course, depending on demand.)
99.5+ will almost definitely get you into Biomed
99.90+ will get you into any of the 5 main undergraduate degrees

However because it is based on supply and demand the clearly-in for Arts may jump to 99.85, Science drop to 86.40 and Biomed to 97.00. All of these are unlikely but anything is possible.

I do think that there is some sort of upper ATAR limit to particular courses just because there aren't many people within the higher ranges(e.g not many people have an ATAR of 99.80+) and the University has a set minimum amount of places offered for a course.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 17, 2014, 09:42:25 am
Morning everyone. :) Carl here again.

Sorry to be a pain haha. Even though I come from an underrepresented school and applied for that SEAS, would I still be unable for a potential entry? 92.5 was my score and I was hoping SEAS would bump that up to the bare minimum of 93..? Thanks.

Unfortunately not. We won't make any adjustments to your ATAR based on your SEAS applications, so when you apply your application will be assessed based on your current score of 92.5. Basically we use SEAS applications in the following ways:

In every case we're looking at the ATAR as you received it on results release day.

Hey unimelb, what is the clearly in ATAR for bachelor of science for 2015? Will 92.4 secure me in comfortably?

As a couple of people have mentioned, we have no idea. :) The clearly-in's set by the standard and number of applicants in a given year, as well as number of places available in each course, so it can fluctuate. The previous year's clearly-in is usually a pretty close guide though, because commonly these fluctuations are small.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Lamajade on December 17, 2014, 09:48:42 am
Hi, I'm looking to study a concurrent Diploma in Music (Practical) as a vocalist, alongside a Bachelor of Arts. Given it's a practical course, what level of theory knowledge is expected for admission? :) I'm aware there is an audition but I wasn't sure of the theory requirement.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 17, 2014, 03:35:39 pm
Hi, I'm looking to study a concurrent Diploma in Music (Practical) as a vocalist, alongside a Bachelor of Arts. Given it's a practical course, what level of theory knowledge is expected for admission? :) I'm aware there is an audition but I wasn't sure of the theory requirement.

There's no formal theory requirement for this diploma. You can get some detailed information on what's expected here, and the only requirement is a successful audition. The diploma covers basic historical and theoretical knowledge through elective subjects.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Cheesecakelover on December 17, 2014, 06:01:49 pm
Hey UoM
Is there any way to find out if i am successful Melbourne Access applicant? I got an atar of 89 (to get into commerce) and i've applied under disadvantaged financial background with supporting documentation.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jaysit97 on December 17, 2014, 07:45:30 pm
Hey Melbourne Uni, just another quick question: If I was able to transfer from Arts to Commerce after a semester/year, would I be doing first year commerce or second year commerce? (assuming I chose to major in economics for Arts)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cosine on December 17, 2014, 07:49:50 pm
Hey Melbourne Uni, just another quick question: If I was able to transfer from Arts to Commerce after a semester/year, would I be doing first year commerce or second year commerce? (assuming I chose to major in economics for Arts)
Thanks!
When will i receive the email whether i get accepted into UMEP ? Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uoiea on December 17, 2014, 08:33:07 pm
Can I be guaranteed SEAS/Access Melbourne (financial disadv.) if I have family tax benefit A + youth allowance? I am trying for the midyear entry since I'll definitely miss start-of-year entry. I got an ATAR of above 78, so would this be a guaranteed entry midyear into Science if I am given Access Melbourne?

I also got in touch with a general inquiry as you said, and I received what seemed to be an automated reply, but one thing that caught my eye was

"Have not been awarded results in a degree course at a tertiary institution in Australia (this does not apply to applicants for the mature-age consideration category and does not include single, bridging schemes or extension studies undertaken as part of Year 12)."

So I have a higher chance getting in if I do nothing between now and midyear entry date?

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on December 18, 2014, 12:04:01 am
hey unimelb, i know i posted something similar to this a few days ago, i was wondering if its possible to do commerce and still keep post grad health courses open like medicine, physio, dentistry or if there is another pathway that will allow me to do both commerce and leave post grad health courses free? thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on December 18, 2014, 12:32:47 am
hey unimelb, i know i posted something similar to this a few days ago, i was wondering if its possible to do commerce and still keep post grad health courses open like medicine, physio, dentistry or if there is another pathway that will allow me to do both commerce and leave post grad health courses free? thanks

Hey, just in case someone at unimelb doesn't answer I'll chip in here since I was discussing this with some friends earlier this year. The prerequisites for medicine, physio and dentistry are listed here http://sc.mdhs.unimelb.edu.au/prerequisites. So under normal circumstances, you would need to complete the 3 listed 2nd year science subjects to satisfy the prerequisites for medicine and dentistry(ANAT20006, PHYS20008, BCMB20002). These 3 subjects have prerequisites of 4 first year science subjects, which you would not be able to do as they must be taken as breadth in the Bachelor of Commerce, and the BCom only allows you to do 3 first year breadth subjects.

For physiotherapy at unimelb, you only need the 2 subjects ANAT20006 and PHYS20008 as prerequisites, and together they only have 2 prerequisites(+1 quantitative science subject as listed for PHYS20008(https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/current/phys20008), totalling 3 first year breadth subjects under the BCom which is allowed.

So in short, under normal circumstances you would be able to keep Physiotherapy at Melbourne open with careful subject planning doing a BCom, whilst you can't keep Med or Dentistry open. Not too sure about alternative pathways but they may exist.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Tomas Sadauskas on December 18, 2014, 01:10:29 pm
Hi Melbourne uni,
I graduated this year with 98.8 and aiming to get into Biomedical science, if not science.
Re- Enrolment
I am wondering which dates in mid January I need to be in Melbourne (in person) for enrolment after vtac offers round 1 come out?   (Need to know to plan holidays - a week around 14-22 jan)
Also, I should attend the Academic advice day on the 24th jan?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 18, 2014, 03:39:48 pm
Hi All,

I am Matt from Office of Admissions.

Hey UoM
Is there any way to find out if i am successful Melbourne Access applicant? I got an atar of 89 (to get into commerce) and i've applied under disadvantaged financial background with supporting documentation.

Hi Cheesecakelover,

If you can send me your VTAC ID, date of birth and full name, I will review your application and let you know if you will be guaranteed a place with Access Melbourne. You can email me at [email protected]

Hey Melbourne Uni, just another quick question: If I was able to transfer from Arts to Commerce after a semester/year, would I be doing first year commerce or second year commerce? (assuming I chose to major in economics for Arts)
Thanks!

Hi Jaysit97,

As the economics major for first year only requires that you complete two subjects (Introduction to Micro/Macroeconomics), if you transferred to Commerce in year 2 you would continue studying second year economics subjects. Please note however that there are core commerce subjects you need to complete so you might study some other first year subjects within your second year.


When will i receive the email whether i get accepted into UMEP ? Thanks

Hi sir.jonse,

I spoke to the coordinator and they will be sent out Wednesday January 14.


Can I be guaranteed SEAS/Access Melbourne (financial disadv.) if I have family tax benefit A + youth allowance? I am trying for the midyear entry since I'll definitely miss start-of-year entry. I got an ATAR of above 78, so would this be a guaranteed entry midyear into Science if I am given Access Melbourne?

I also got in touch with a general inquiry as you said, and I received what seemed to be an automated reply, but one thing that caught my eye was

"Have not been awarded results in a degree course at a tertiary institution in Australia (this does not apply to applicants for the mature-age consideration category and does not include single, bridging schemes or extension studies undertaken as part of Year 12)."

So I have a higher chance getting in if I do nothing between now and midyear entry date?

Hi uoiea,

If you send me your VTAC ID, full name and date of birth, I will be able to review your application for you. My contact email is [email protected]. Without your specific details, I can only reply with a general response.

If you meet the course prerequisites, submit a successful SEAS/Access Melbourne application in the disadvantaged financial background or rural/isolated areas and have the relevant ATAR score, then you will be guaranteed a place. You can clarify this at http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/access_melbourne_and_equity_programs/access-melbourne/guaranteed-entry-for-access-melbourne-applicants

The line you mentioned is a hard and fast rule. If you have received tertiary results (apart from programs such as extension studies) then you will not be considered for Access Melbourne and therefore will no longer be guaranteed a place if you applied in mid year. You can clarify this on our website at http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/access_melbourne_and_equity_programs/access-melbourne/eligibility-criteria


hey unimelb, i know i posted something similar to this a few days ago, i was wondering if its possible to do commerce and still keep post grad health courses open like medicine, physio, dentistry or if there is another pathway that will allow me to do both commerce and leave post grad health courses free? thanks

Hi yazza,

This one is kind of tricky. Notveryasian has some good suggestions as I am pretty sure to complete all of the subject prerequisites it will not fit into a commerce degree. Consequently, a way around might be to complete a CAP subject or two (Community Access Program, full fee single subjects). However, I think your best option is to contact the Student Centre for Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences directly on +61 3 8344 5890 or email them at [email protected]. There website is also at http://mdhs.unimelb.edu.au/contact


Hi Melbourne uni,
I graduated this year with 98.8 and aiming to get into Biomedical science, if not science.
Re- Enrolment
I am wondering which dates in mid January I need to be in Melbourne (in person) for enrolment after vtac offers round 1 come out?   (Need to know to plan holidays - a week around 14-22 jan)
Also, I should attend the Academic advice day on the 24th jan?

Hi Tomas,

You are able to accept and complete most of your enrollment online so that should not be an issue for you. However, if you happen to be unavailable during Academic Advice Day 1, you can always attend Academic Advice Day 2 on February 19. Please note this may have implications for your timetable as you should not be able to access it until you attend AAD. I would recommend contacting your faculty that you will not be able to attend AAD1.

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on December 18, 2014, 03:44:24 pm
Are there any scholarships that did not require me to apply for scholarships via VTAC?
I'm so dumb for not applying earlier :'(
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: LazyZombie on December 18, 2014, 08:31:57 pm
is it possible to double major in bachelors of commerce if I wish to do the pathway to post-grad engineering? (software)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 19, 2014, 04:40:19 pm
Hey all, Carl here.

Are there any scholarships that did not require me to apply for scholarships via VTAC?
I'm so dumb for not applying earlier :'(

There are a few scholarships that don't require Access Melbourne. Take a look here to see if there are any that you're eligible for. Throughout your degree there are also opportunities for faculty prizes and bursaries, and scholarships available if you decide to go on exchange.

is it possible to double major in bachelors of commerce if I wish to do the pathway to post-grad engineering? (software)

That's something I'd recommend contacting the Commerce Student Centre about on Monday morning. They'll be able to give detailed course advice and have a bit more of an idea about how you can meet any prerequisites for engineering if this is possible. Sorry I'm not able to answer more specifically here, but I'd prefer to leave something like this to expert course advisers so you get the right answer the first time.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on December 19, 2014, 06:16:30 pm
Hi unimelb,

I sent an email regarding my application for Access Melbourne and for some reason there isn't any record of my supporting documentation for the disadvantaged financial background category. My schools career councillors offered to send out all our documents along with the coversheet and scholarship application and I'm not sure why vtac and you guys haven't received it  :-\ Is there anything I can do now to get into Melbourne Uni through Access Melbourne and the guaranteed entry scores?  :-[ I'm getting a little worried now!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: RKTR on December 19, 2014, 07:57:55 pm
when will the uni notify us if we are offered melbourne access scholarship?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Lamajade on December 20, 2014, 01:26:39 am
Can you do a bachelor of arts with a double major AND a concurrent diploma?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Dkdkdk on December 20, 2014, 01:58:00 pm
Has anybody had the problem of an 'empty study plan' where the study plan only shows information about your course and nothing else ? Why does this happen and how do i fix it ??
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: peepala on December 20, 2014, 05:19:04 pm
If I want to do the doctor of veterinary medicine at Melbourne, should I do an undergraduate of science or biomedicine? Which will set me up better for the post graduate?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ~V on December 20, 2014, 05:36:23 pm
If I want to do the doctor of veterinary medicine at Melbourne, should I do an undergraduate of science or biomedicine? Which will set me up better for the post graduate?
You'd be better off doing science even if you do have the ATAR to do biomed. Biomed has more of a focus on humans and in the science degree, you can choose the Animal health and disease major which is, according to their website, a pathway for students in careers in veterinary medicine.
http://www.bsc.unimelb.edu.au/animal-health-disease
Checkout the majors for biomed and science, you'll see what i mean when one's focused on humans.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rod on December 21, 2014, 04:30:43 pm
Hey!

Is there a way to check the clearly in ATARs for yeaars other than 2013?? I've been searching on the internet without any success.

Thankss!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sjayne on December 21, 2014, 10:24:52 pm
I want to do either psychology(neuropsychology) or linguistics but for some reason I can't do both in science or arts. Neuroscience is only available through science and linguistics through arts

Is it better to do;
Science-major in neuroscience and do linguistics as breadth
Arts- major in psych and linguistics
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 22, 2014, 09:42:40 am
Morning all, Carl here. Hope everyone had a great weekend. :)

I sent an email regarding my application for Access Melbourne and for some reason there isn't any record of my supporting documentation for the disadvantaged financial background category. My schools career councillors offered to send out all our documents along with the coversheet and scholarship application and I'm not sure why vtac and you guys haven't received it  :-\ Is there anything I can do now to get into Melbourne Uni through Access Melbourne and the guaranteed entry scores?  :-[ I'm getting a little worried now!

Normally I'd suggest you message me with more details so I can look into it, but given Change of Preference closes in a few hours I'd suggest calling or chatting online with the guys at 13 MELB so that they can look up any relevant details and advise based on your specific situation.

when will the uni notify us if we are offered melbourne access scholarship?

Typically 2-3 weeks after offers come out, so mid to late January.

Can you do a bachelor of arts with a double major AND a concurrent diploma?

I'll double check with the Arts Student Centre and get back to you on that one ASAP. Double majors are definitely possible, but I'll need to confirm whether there'd be room for a concurrent diploma as well.

Has anybody had the problem of an 'empty study plan' where the study plan only shows information about your course and nothing else ? Why does this happen and how do i fix it ??

If you're fully enrolled, it usually indicates that the study plan needs to be expanded. You'll need to get in touch with your faculty and they'll sort this out for you. If you're not sure how, 13 MELB can put you in touch.

If I want to do the doctor of veterinary medicine at Melbourne, should I do an undergraduate of science or biomedicine? Which will set me up better for the post graduate?

Both are possible, although as ~V points out the Bachelor of Science definitely gives more scope to explore animal science. There's also the possibility of an accelerated 3-year program for Bachelor of Science students instead of the standard four years required for the Doctor of Veterinary Medicine.

Is there a way to check the clearly in ATARs for yeaars other than 2013?? I've been searching on the internet without any success.

You should be able to get most of that info on VTAC's Reports and Statistics page.

I want to do either psychology(neuropsychology) or linguistics but for some reason I can't do both in science or arts. Neuroscience is only available through science and linguistics through arts
Is it better to do;
Science-major in neuroscience and do linguistics as breadth
Arts- major in psych and linguistics

Yours I'll also need to follow up with Arts/Science, but the options for a psychology major are pretty much the same in either degree, including the option to study neuroscience. You can check out the psychology major structure here. I've just sent off this question to both faculties to see which they recommend as the better option though.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 22, 2014, 11:39:44 am
A quick update for the two questions I'd referred to faculties.

Can you do a bachelor of arts with a double major AND a concurrent diploma?

I've just spoken to the Arts Student Centre. You can definitely do a double major and a concurrent diploma.

I want to do either psychology(neuropsychology) or linguistics but for some reason I can't do both in science or arts. Neuroscience is only available through science and linguistics through arts

Is it better to do;
Science-major in neuroscience and do linguistics as breadth
Arts- major in psych and linguistics

Either will be fine according the staff at Arts. Both degrees with a psychology major lead to the same fourth year options. Given that, you should base your choice on whether you feel you'd prefer the stronger focus of your degree to be on science or humanities.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Lamajade on December 22, 2014, 09:09:23 pm
In regards to the concurrent Diploma in Music audition, what is the 'western art music repertoire'? Is there a specific song list? :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: nhmn0301 on December 22, 2014, 10:27:28 pm
Hi, I'm an international student and I just receive an offer from Unimelb today. According to the email, the Course confirmation day will be on 19th of Feb, which I, unfortunately cannot attend. Is there any possibilities where I can apply for a late confirmation day?
Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on December 23, 2014, 11:31:19 am
Hi all, this'll be our last post for 2014. The University's still open until tomorrow though, so for anything urgent all our other contact details are here. You're also welcome to post non-urgent things here, and we'll answer in the new year.

In regards to the concurrent Diploma in Music audition, what is the 'western art music repertoire'? Is there a specific song list? :)

That'd be something to ask when you attend Academic Advice Day, but based on the application form here it appears you get to choose. I'm just basing this off the information on the form though, so absolutely double-check next year when you're planning your course.

Hi, I'm an international student and I just receive an offer from Unimelb today. According to the email, the Course confirmation day will be on 19th of Feb, which I, unfortunately cannot attend. Is there any possibilities where I can apply for a late confirmation day?
Thanks for the help

If you can't attend then you'll just need to let your faculty know. There'll be contact information on your official offer letter, or you can get in touch with 13 MELB via the link above. They'll then advise on any steps you need to take or alternative arrangements you need to make, as well as other options for the international student orientation.

Thanks to all of you for a great year, and hopefully you've found it useful having us here. We'll see you all in 2015, have a great Christmas and New Year break!

- Carl
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mikehepro on December 26, 2014, 09:46:57 am
Hi there.
Pretty sure there is a Science student society at UOM, but I can't seem to access the webpage since the site is down. Where can I find more information about it?
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: YellowTongue on December 26, 2014, 10:28:21 am
Can you do a double major within the bachelor of music (e.g. major in performance and composition)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Special At Specialist on December 26, 2014, 01:25:57 pm
Can I be guaranteed SEAS/Access Melbourne (financial disadv.) if I have family tax benefit A + youth allowance? I am trying for the midyear entry since I'll definitely miss start-of-year entry. I got an ATAR of above 78, so would this be a guaranteed entry midyear into Science if I am given Access Melbourne?

Yes. As long as you do not attend another tertiary institution, you will be guaranteed entry into BSci at UoM with a 78 ATAR and proof of financial disadvantage.

I also got in touch with a general inquiry as you said, and I received what seemed to be an automated reply, but one thing that caught my eye was

"Have not been awarded results in a degree course at a tertiary institution in Australia (this does not apply to applicants for the mature-age consideration category and does not include single, bridging schemes or extension studies undertaken as part of Year 12)."

So I have a higher chance getting in if I do nothing between now and midyear entry date?

YES. Infact, that was the exact reason why my offer for BCom at UoM got withdrawn. I was given an offer based on the fact that I had an 88.50 ATAR with Access Melbourne for being on Centrelink, but once I revealed the fact that I spent a semester at RMIT, they basically kicked me out of the university.

You cannot be eligible for Access Melbourne if you have attended another tertiary institution.

Hey UoM
Is there any way to find out if i am successful Melbourne Access applicant? I got an atar of 89 (to get into commerce) and i've applied under disadvantaged financial background with supporting documentation.

If your application is successful (which it will be if you've supplied your Centrelink reference number), then yes, you will be guaranteed entry.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: M-D on December 29, 2014, 04:42:13 pm
Could you please clarify what is the difference between the WAM (weighted average mean) which the uni now calculates for students and the GPA (grade point average).

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 05, 2015, 07:34:10 pm
Hi, would you be able to clarify how transfers work within UoM?

If I say, got into BSci and wanted to transfer to BCom, I complete a year in BSci correct? Then depending on my grades I'll be able to transfer to BCom where I'll enter (confused about this) my first or second year in BCom? I'm not too sure how it all works, so if you would be able to clarify it that'd be great

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: simpak on January 05, 2015, 07:59:47 pm
Hi, would you be able to clarify how transfers work within UoM?

If I say, got into BSci and wanted to transfer to BCom, I complete a year in BSci correct? Then depending on my grades I'll be able to transfer to BCom where I'll enter (confused about this) my first or second year in BCom? I'm not too sure how it all works, so if you would be able to clarify it that'd be great

Thanks!

First of all, there's no true transfer 'within' UoM. You complete a year of Science if you don't want your ATAR to be considered during the transfer, and would prefer university grades to be considered. You then reapply DIRECTLY TO VTAC, not to the university directly, even though you want to transfer to the same institution. This does not occur at all universities; it might be different for some of your friends.  If your transfer is successful, you would enter first year commerce, but you would be capable of crediting some subjects from Science. If you complete first year Commerce subjects as breadth in your Science degree (first year following VCE), you can cross-credit them once you've transferred, as first year Commerce points. Then, you can use some of the first year subjects you completed during your Science year (up to three if you plan on doing minimal breadth [4 total]) as breadth in Commerce. So you can essentially credit around 5 subjects you completed during Science (2 Commerce core, 3 Science breadth) following the transfer to Commerce.  But you will still have to complete other first year Commerce subjects to progress to most second year Commerce subjects and will therefore be considered a 'first year student' following your transfer. If you followed the plan above, you would need to complete at least 3 more first year Commerce subjects, more likely 4 to be on par with the majority of the cohort. It's likely your course structure will be slightly skewed if you choose to cross-credit following a transfer - that means there will be some 'overlap' rather than completing only Level 1 subjects in first year, Level 2 in second year etc. But that's not at all uncommon at university - plenty of students take subjects of a Level that does not match their current 'year'. However, there are rules about how many subjects you need to complete at the previous Level before you can enrol in a subject at the Level above. To look at how your course structure could best be planned out so you can finish the second degree in a comfortable amount of time and still major in your preferred specialty, try visiting or speaking with the Commerce student centre course planners about your specific situation and plans.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: simpak on January 05, 2015, 08:21:36 pm
And now a question of my own!

If something is printed incorrectly on the academic transcript mailed at the end of my degree (received today), who do I contact about rectifying the matter and having the transcript reprinted/resent with the correct information listed?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: MathsNerd203 on January 07, 2015, 08:30:04 pm
Hi MathsNerd203, we have just received some more information from you in regards to Master of Teaching (Secondary) learning areas.

Students need to complete subjects in their undergraduate degree that meet the requirements of two learning areas. This is because the Master of Teaching (Secondary) doesn’t students about the disciplines (ie. students are expected to enter the course with some background knowledge).

The available learning areas and requirements can be viewed online.

- Bronwyn

So does  the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences count as a Major, Sub Major or a Part? The brochure says that to be qualified to teach the subject, you need to have completed the subject over two years, and I think the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences is only completed over one year.

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 07, 2015, 09:22:07 pm
So does  the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences count as a Major, Sub Major or a Part? The brochure says that to be qualified to teach the subject, you need to have completed the subject over two years, and I think the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences is only completed over one year.

The subjects within the Diploma count towards a "major study" for the M.Teach, as the diploma contains at least 8 subjects, which is 2 more than required for a "major study", which only requires 6.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cooldude123 on January 07, 2015, 10:49:31 pm
Hi UoM, which libraries are open to non-UoM students to study? (It'd be nice to have something other than the State Library which often closes early)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 07, 2015, 11:44:11 pm
Hi UoM, which libraries are open to non-UoM students to study? (It'd be nice to have something other than the State Library which often closes early)

Baillieu, ERC and Giblin Eunson I know are all open for public access, not so sure about the smaller faculty libraries.
The exception to this is during SWOTVAC/exam period, as they get quite full around these times so places are normally only allowed for students.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 07, 2015, 11:55:15 pm
Baillieu, ERC and Giblin Eunson I know are all open for public access, not so sure about the smaller faculty libraries.
The exception to this is during SWOTVAC/exam period, as they get quite full around these times so places are normally only allowed for students.

Also during the university semester, after regular hours you have to be a university student to have access to the libraries as they require a uni student card.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Sam3344 on January 08, 2015, 11:08:06 am
Hi UoM, Is there ANY chance at all that I might be offered a Biomed place - even second round - with an ATAR below 95 (Access cut-off) as an Access applicant with Financial disadvantage, PLUS additional categories (medical, and difficult circumstances)? My ATAR is 91.5, (two over 40 results, plus over 30 in the Biomed prerequisites of Chem and Maths, but disappointing result in Chinese). I have BioMed as 1st pref, with Science as 2nd. I know I can do Med from B.Sc, but have my heart set on Biomed course. Is it possible?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: jp96 on January 12, 2015, 06:06:23 pm
Hey, I'm confused regarding the "levels" of the BSci subjects (and any other courses I guess). Must a level 1 subject be completed in the first year of study? What if, say, I don't enroll in any physics subjects in my first year, but decide to pursue physics in my second year? I assume that would mean I'd be doing as level 1 subject in my second year - is this normal / possible? Do the semesters play a role or is it just the years?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 12, 2015, 06:37:30 pm
Hey, I'm confused regarding the "levels" of the BSci subjects (and any other courses I guess). Must a level 1 subject be completed in the first year of study? What if, say, I don't enroll in any physics subjects in my first year, but decide to pursue physics in my second year? I assume that would mean I'd be doing as level 1 subject in my second year - is this normal / possible? Do the semesters play a role or is it just the years?

Generally a level 1 subject is your first year, level 2 second year and so on. Level 4-9 subjects are honors/masters/postgrad.
Depending on what subjects you would like to take in your second year, some of them may require you to do Physics first. In this case you will either have to do Physics first year or extend the length of your degree.

You certainly can do Physics in second year though, just depends on what other subjects you would like to take. There are restrictions on how many points of each level you can take, which can be found at https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/755BB#structureId
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 13, 2015, 11:30:03 am
Hi all, my name is Simone and I will be answering your enquiries from the Office of Admissions.

Hi there.
Pretty sure there is a Science student society at UOM, but I can't seem to access the webpage since the site is down. Where can I find more information about it?
Thanks
Hi mikehepro,
Information about the SSS can be found at their UMSU page http://union.unimelb.edu.au/clubs/science-students-society/, or via their facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/MelbUniSSS.




Could you please clarify what is the difference between the WAM (weighted average mean) which the uni now calculates for students and the GPA (grade point average).
Thanks
Hi M-D,
Your GPA is simply your grades for your subjects divided by the number of subjects you have completed (assuming a subject is worth 12.5 points). For instance, if you complete four 12.5 point subjects and receive the following grades: 76, 81, 78, 90, your GPA is the sum of those divided by 4 (i.e. 81.25).

Your WAM on the other hand is a weighted GPA, where third year subjects are weighted more than second year subjects, which in turn are weighted more than first year subjects.

Another way to explain it is through this equation: First year average X (1/6) + Second year average X (2/6) + Third year average X (3/6) = WAM.




Can you do a double major within the bachelor of music (e.g. major in performance and composition)?
Hi YellowTongue,
The VCA student centre have advised that while double majors are not available, the majors offered are flexible enough that you can undertake subjects from all other areas of the Bachelor of Music. For instance, you can undertake a major in performance, but also take subjects from composition, provided you have met the pre-requisites.




Hi, would you be able to clarify how transfers work within UoM?
If I say, got into BSci and wanted to transfer to BCom, I complete a year in BSci correct? Then depending on my grades I'll be able to transfer to BCom where I'll enter (confused about this) my first or second year in BCom? I'm not too sure how it all works, so if you would be able to clarify it that'd be great
Thanks!
Hi myanacondadont,
In order to be able to transfer mid-year, your ATAR and your tertiary GPA must be considered. Due to the limited places and high numbers of application, your ATAR generally must be greater than 95 to be considered, and your tertiary grade point average must also be considered.

If you look to transfer after one year, your tertiary grade point will be the primary determinant of your application rather than your ATAR.

With respect to where you start in the BCom, it depends on the subjects you undertake through the Bachelor of Science, and whether they count towards first year Commerce subjects. If they do not, you may be able to credit towards your Commerce breadth component, which is a maximum of six subjects. In this case you will still commence first year Commerce subjects, however the total remaining duration of your course will be shortened by six subjects. It really depends on the subjects that you undertake through your Bachelor of Science.




And now a question of my own!

If something is printed incorrectly on the academic transcript mailed at the end of my degree (received today), who do I contact about rectifying the matter and having the transcript reprinted/resent with the correct information listed?  Thanks!
Hi simpak,
You can contact Student Administration by either visiting them on the ground floor of the Baldwin Spencer building, or calling the University on 13 MELB (13 6352).




So does the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences count as a Major, Sub Major or a Part? The brochure says that to be qualified to teach the subject, you need to have completed the subject over two years, and I think the Diploma in Mathematical Sciences is only completed over one year.
Hi MathsNerd203,
The Education faculty have suggested contacting a course adviser, Susan, who will be able to further assist you with her enquiry. She can be contacted on [email protected].




Also during the university semester, after regular hours you have to be a university student to have access to the libraries as they require a uni student card.
Hi notveryasian,
This is correct. After regular hours, the main libraries operate as a study hall that require student card access. For further information please visit http://library.unimelb.edu.au/hours/library_opening_hours.




Hi UoM, Is there ANY chance at all that I might be offered a Biomed place - even second round - with an ATAR below 95 (Access cut-off) as an Access applicant with Financial disadvantage, PLUS additional categories (medical, and difficult circumstances)? My ATAR is 91.5, (two over 40 results, plus over 30 in the Biomed prerequisites of Chem and Maths, but disappointing result in Chinese). I have BioMed as 1st pref, with Science as 2nd. I know I can do Med from B.Sc, but have my heart set on Biomed course. Is it possible?
Dear Sam3344,
Unfortunately students who have already been considered for round one will not be re-considered for round 2. Second round offers are reserved for students who did not have their results available in time for round 1, and negotiated offers.
As your ATAR does not meet the required score of 95 to ensure guaranteed entry via Biomedicine, it depends on the severity of your circumstances as to whether the benefit afforded to you via the Access scheme will be enough to lift your ATAR to the required clearly-in score for the Bachelor of Biomedicine (not the guaranteed 95.00 ATAR). For further information I would recommend speaking to the Office of Admissions on 13 MELB (13 6352).




Hey, I'm confused regarding the "levels" of the BSci subjects (and any other courses I guess). Must a level 1 subject be completed in the first year of study? What if, say, I don't enroll in any physics subjects in my first year, but decide to pursue physics in my second year? I assume that would mean I'd be doing as level 1 subject in my second year - is this normal / possible? Do the semesters play a role or is it just the years?
Hi jp96,

It is exactly as stevensmay explained. Generally level 1 subjects are completed in first year, as they provide the pre-requisites to complete second year subjects, however most degrees have some space for electives so you can complete first year subjects later on. It simply depends on the subjects you would like to undertake.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheDragonBorn on January 13, 2015, 12:26:19 pm




Hi M-D,
Your GPA is simply your grades for your subjects divided by the number of subjects you have completed (assuming a subject is worth 12.5 points). For instance, if you complete four 12.5 point subjects and receive the following grades: 76, 81, 78, 90, your GPA is the sum of those divided by 4 (i.e. 81.25).

Your WAM on the other hand is a weighted GPA, where third year subjects are weighted more than second year subjects, which in turn are weighted more than first year subjects.

Another way to explain it is through this equation: First year average X (1/6) + Second year average X (2/6) + Third year average X (3/6) = WAM.



So will the entrance into the Engineering masters program in 2016  be dependent on getting 65% WAM or just 65% average mark?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Teba on January 13, 2015, 02:07:06 pm
hey univisity of melbourne,
I was just wondering would special consideration include not being in the country for long . im in year 11 and i have been 3 years in australia ??? i wanna do bio medicine
PS im a kwonger :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 13, 2015, 02:25:19 pm
hey univisity of melbourne,
I was just wondering would special consideration include not being in the country for long . im in year 11 and i have been 3 years in australia ??? i wanna do bio medicine
PS im a kwonger :)

Have a look here , which details what SEAS categories are available. There's a possibility you fall under category 1.
These then intertwine with Unimelb as so.

I remember reading somewhere that being a KLD scholar does have some advantage, unfortunately I cannot remember where so I'll let Unimelb handle that one! For pre-reading you can check this out.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 13, 2015, 03:36:02 pm
hey univisity of melbourne,
I was just wondering would special consideration include not being in the country for long . im in year 11 and i have been 3 years in australia ??? i wanna do bio medicine
PS im a kwonger :)

I'm pretty sure as a Kwonger you have Guaranteed Entry if you get a 95 ATAR, but I think there were some other conditions for biomedicine
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: tnicole on January 14, 2015, 08:43:22 pm
Hey! I'm an international student and going to be starting a BSc at Melbourne uni this March. Just wondering, do I have to arrive in Melbourne and contact the student centre first before I can enrol in classes?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 15, 2015, 02:59:41 pm
Hi all, my name is Jack  and I will be answering your enquiries from the Office of Admissions.

Hey!

Is there a way to check the clearly in ATARs for yeaars other than 2013?? I've been searching on the internet without any success.

Thankss!!
2014 entry requirements can be found at the following link
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/entry-requirements/undergraduate-domestic
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 15, 2015, 04:04:08 pm
Does melbourne uni offer free access to microsoft office to students?? I'm jealous of people in other unis that get free office 365 :(
Hello
Unfortunately Melbourne University doesn't offer students free Microsoft Word.

Jack
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 15, 2015, 04:36:17 pm
hey univisity of melbourne,
I was just wondering would special consideration include not being in the country for long . im in year 11 and i have been 3 years in australia ??? i wanna do bio medicine
PS im a kwonger :)
Hello there,
Yes it is true if you get above a 95 you have a guaranteed place in Biomedicine as a KLD student. However a quota applies so the higher your score, the more likely you are to get a place :)
Jack - Office of Admissions
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 15, 2015, 04:38:38 pm
Hey! I'm an international student and going to be starting a BSc at Melbourne uni this March. Just wondering, do I have to arrive in Melbourne and contact the student centre first before I can enrol in classes?

Hello there,
All of the enrollment occurs online, that includes enrollment in subjects and then individual classes. However you are required to be present for Academic Advice Day on the 19th of Feburary
http://services.unimelb.edu.au/international/life-and-study/orientation
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: piepiepie on January 19, 2015, 01:31:26 pm
Hi unimelb,

With first round of offers coming out, I didn't receive my first preference for Bachelor of Science at Melb Uni, even though I qualified for guaranteed entry (SEAS application; Disadvantaged financial background, underrepresented school, ATAR score of 78+). I have met all the subject prerequsites/study scores and ATAR score. I've never wanted something so bad in my lifee, is it over for me ?.. is this a mistake?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Dejan on January 19, 2015, 01:51:44 pm
Hi unimelb,

With first round of offers coming out, I didn't receive my first preference for Bachelor of Science at Melb Uni, even though I qualified for guaranteed entry (SEAS application; Disadvantaged financial background, underrepresented school, ATAR score of 78+). I have met all the subject prerequsites/study scores and ATAR score. I've never wanted something so bad in my lifee, is it over for me ?.. is this a mistake?
There's always second round offer, don't give up hope mate
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 19, 2015, 02:35:15 pm
Hi unimelb,

With first round of offers coming out, I didn't receive my first preference for Bachelor of Science at Melb Uni, even though I qualified for guaranteed entry (SEAS application; Disadvantaged financial background, underrepresented school, ATAR score of 78+). I have met all the subject prerequsites/study scores and ATAR score. I've never wanted something so bad in my lifee, is it over for me ?.. is this a mistake?

You should bring this up with VTAC if you feel that there is a mistake.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: MDMA on January 19, 2015, 03:09:56 pm
Hey unimelb,

Apparently the cut-off for Arts was 90.05. I received an 89.25 and had it as first preference with no SEAS. Do you think I would have a good chance in the second round?

Ignore - was told no by chatline. Blehh!!!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Elts on January 19, 2015, 03:18:10 pm
Hi unimelb,

Didn't receive an offer for Commerce at Melbourne. I received an ATAR of 94.90 which is 0.1 off the clearly-in. Any chance for second round offers?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sjayne on January 19, 2015, 03:25:58 pm
If we want to apply for a negotiated place elsewhere do we still accept?
And what happens if my negotiated offer is accepted but then I decide I want to stay at Melbourne?
Sorry, I'm just still confused about what I want to study
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 19, 2015, 05:23:46 pm
Hi unimelb,

With first round of offers coming out, I didn't receive my first preference for Bachelor of Science at Melb Uni, even though I qualified for guaranteed entry (SEAS application; Disadvantaged financial background, underrepresented school, ATAR score of 78+). I have met all the subject prerequsites/study scores and ATAR score. I've never wanted something so bad in my lifee, is it over for me ?.. is this a mistake?

Hi piepiepie,

If you can please send us an enquiry through our web form here(including your VTAC id) we will follow this up for you.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 19, 2015, 05:27:24 pm
Can someone please explain to me in plain English what HECS-HELP and CSP places are? I've been Googling around but I'm still confuzzled
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 19, 2015, 05:31:18 pm
Hi unimelb,

Didn't receive an offer for Commerce at Melbourne. I received an ATAR of 94.90 which is 0.1 off the clearly-in. Any chance for second round offers?

Hey unimelb,

Apparently the cut-off for Arts was 90.05. I received an 89.25 and had it as first preference with no SEAS. Do you think I would have a good chance in the second round?

Ignore - was told no by chatline. Blehh!!!!

Hi Elts and MDMA,

Thanks for asking about second round offers and congratulations to you both on your excellent results.

We aim to make the majority of offers in Round 1 and typically only use Round 2 to make offers to eligible applicants who receive their results too late to be considered for Round 1 (where places are available).

If you are not successful in getting a Round 2 offer you could consider strengthening your chances through further study (for example, a year in another tertiary degree) and reapply to Unimelb at a later date. In this case your new application would be assessed using your entire academic record, both tertiary and year 12 results.

To apply for entry in Semester 1 2016 you will need to reapply through VTAC (timely applications close in September 2015). Some courses will also have a mid-year intake (for entry in Semester 2, 2015) – the Future Students website will have further details available about this by the beginning of May.

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 19, 2015, 05:33:30 pm
Can someone please explain to me in plain English what HECS-HELP and CSP places are? I've been Googling around but I'm still confuzzled

HECS-HELP (if eligible) means that instead of paying for your subjects upfront the government pays for them. You only need to start making compulsory repayments when you start earning over a certain amount per year, I think around 53k. When this happens, you will be paying more tax than normally as this is where the repayments are taken from.

CSP is Commonwealth Supported Place, which means the government will pay for part of the subject fees, normally bringing the cost to you down to around $1000 per subject. If you are full fee, then as the name suggests you pay the full cost without any subsidy by the government. There is quite a large difference, around a few thousand dollars per subject.

This is a pretty simple overview.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Professor Polonsky on January 19, 2015, 05:45:17 pm
Can someone please explain to me in plain English what HECS-HELP and CSP places are? I've been Googling around but I'm still confuzzled
Further to what Stevensmay said, if you are an Australian citizen or PR, you'll automatically be enrolled in a CSP place, and have the option of taking the HECS-HELP loan (which you should do!)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: pi on January 19, 2015, 05:46:30 pm
HECS-HELP (if eligible) means that instead of paying for your subjects upfront the government pays for them. You only need to start making compulsory repayments when you start earning over a certain amount per year, I think around 53k. When this happens, you will be paying more tax than normally as this is where the repayments are taken from.

CSP is Commonwealth Supported Place, which means the government will pay for part of the subject fees, normally bringing the cost to you down to around $1000 per subject. If you are full fee, then as the name suggests you pay the full cost without any subsidy by the government. There is quite a large difference, around a few thousand dollars per subject.

This is a pretty simple overview.

I've added those to How university works

Hope you don't mind!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 19, 2015, 05:54:16 pm
Can someone please explain to me in plain English what HECS-HELP and CSP places are? I've been Googling around but I'm still confuzzled

Hi Mieow,

Stevensmay and Professor Polonsky are quite right that a Commonwealth Supported Place is a course place for domestic students where the Australian Government contributes to the cost of your study. You pay a student contribution amount, which is set each year by the government. You can either pay your student contribution upfront, or defer it through a HECS-HELP loan if you are eligible.

HECS-HELP is the Australian Government's Higher Education Loan Program. It enables you if eligible to borrow the amount of your student contribution, and then pay the loan back once you are in the workforce and earning more than a specified amount. There is more info on our Future Students website here.

I hope that helps!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Limista on January 19, 2015, 06:10:10 pm
Hey unimelb,

can we do the practice timetables for 2015 yet -- is that system up and running? If so, could you also please post a link, thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 19, 2015, 06:45:28 pm
Hey unimelb,

can we do the practice timetables for 2015 yet -- is that system up and running? If so, could you also please post a link, thanks!

Practice timetables aren't a thing as such. You can view the subject timetable though.
Timetable.
It can be a tad confusing, helpful guide.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 19, 2015, 09:45:25 pm
Hey unimelb,

can we do the practice timetables for 2015 yet -- is that system up and running? If so, could you also please post a link, thanks!

Not unimelb, but you can check out timetables by going to the individual subject entries in the handbook e.g https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MAST10007 and under the heading "Dates and Locations" there is a link that gives you the 2015 timetable for that subject.

Normally the site https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl gave timetables but it doesn't seem to be working for 2015 subjects.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Limista on January 19, 2015, 10:42:38 pm
Practice timetables aren't a thing as such. You can view the subject timetable though.
Timetable.
It can be a tad confusing, helpful guide.

Not unimelb, but you can check out timetables by going to the individual subject entries in the handbook e.g https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MAST10007 and under the heading "Dates and Locations" there is a link that gives you the 2015 timetable for that subject.

Normally the site https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl gave timetables but it doesn't seem to be working for 2015 subjects.

You guys are brilliant, thanks.

I've tried that site you've both suggested -- Timetable.-- and I also found that it's not working for 2015 yet. I just wanted to double check it wasn't only me who couldn't access it yet, and it's not! So the world makes sense again  :P

That said, I've sketched out a rough timetable based on 2014 data for subjects. Let's hope the tutes/prac times for 2015 will be the same as 2014?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 19, 2015, 11:05:04 pm
You guys are brilliant, thanks.

I've tried that site you've both suggested -- Timetable.-- and I also found that it's not working for 2015 yet. I just wanted to double check it wasn't only me who couldn't access it yet, and it's not! So the world makes sense again  :P

That said, I've sketched out a rough timetable based on 2014 data for subjects. Let's hope the tutes/prac times for 2015 will be the same as 2014?

...why not use 2015 timetable instead? Seems fairly unlikely that subjects have the same timetables as the years before given lecturers/students complain year to year about lecture/prac times.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zues on January 20, 2015, 12:14:17 am
hey unimelb, i heard you guys are opening registrations for umep again. how do i apply? me and my mate are interested, but also school doesnt start until end of this month so cant get much of the forms in.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 01:02:08 am
You guys are brilliant, thanks.

I've tried that site you've both suggested -- Timetable.-- and I also found that it's not working for 2015 yet. I just wanted to double check it wasn't only me who couldn't access it yet, and it's not! So the world makes sense again  :P

That said, I've sketched out a rough timetable based on 2014 data for subjects. Let's hope the tutes/prac times for 2015 will be the same as 2014?

Hi Limista,

The timetable for 2015 does work, you need to make sure you have selected the department first however. It will not work if you just search by the subject code.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 01:03:28 am
Not unimelb, but you can check out timetables by going to the individual subject entries in the handbook e.g https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MAST10007 and under the heading "Dates and Locations" there is a link that gives you the 2015 timetable for that subject.

Normally the site https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl gave timetables but it doesn't seem to be working for 2015 subjects.

SIS (unfortunately) has been retired and replaced by SWS.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Limista on January 20, 2015, 09:47:11 am
Hi Limista,

The timetable for 2015 does work, you need to make sure you have selected the department first however. It will not work if you just search by the subject code.

Oh yes indeed. Well that explains it why I couldn't see anything before; I hadn't selected a department.

Thanks again  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 20, 2015, 10:41:57 am
If we want to apply for a negotiated place elsewhere do we still accept?
And what happens if my negotiated offer is accepted but then I decide I want to stay at Melbourne?
Sorry, I'm just still confused about what I want to study

Hi sjayne,

Thanks for your question. We completely understand your confusion as it is a big decision to make!

We encourage all students applying for negotiated offers to accept their Round 1 offer. Then, if you are successful in your application for a negotiated offer, you can withdraw from your Round 1 offer.

Keep in mind you can only apply for a negotiated offer if the course you are now interested in was previously listed lower on your preference list than the course you received an offer for, or if the course was not listed on your preference list at all.

If your negotiated offer request is approved, you will not have the option to revert to your Round 1 offer and you can't submit another negotiated offer request.

If you would like any more information about the course you have been offered, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

Best of luck with your decision.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 20, 2015, 11:05:32 am
hey unimelb, i heard you guys are opening registrations for umep again. how do i apply? me and my mate are interested, but also school doesnt start until end of this month so cant get much of the forms in.

Hi Zues,

Thanks for your interest in the Extension Program!

Applications for 2015 have officially closed but if you email our Extension Program office on [email protected] they might accept a late application if you have special circumstances. They can explain what they need if you email them.

If you are interested in the Extension Program 2016 intake, applications will open in August this year. More information is available on our website.

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 20, 2015, 11:11:29 am
Hey unimelb,

can we do the practice timetables for 2015 yet -- is that system up and running? If so, could you also please post a link, thanks!

Hi Limista,

Congratulations on your offer for Biomedicine - we're very happy you'll be joining us!

Looks like some lovely forum folks have helped you out, but I just wanted to add that you will be able to view your full timetable in my.unimelb once you have enrolled in your subjects.

Also check out the Biomedicine enrolment website if you haven't already.

All the best!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zues on January 20, 2015, 11:27:58 am
Hi Zues,

Thanks for your interest in the Extension Program!

Applications for 2015 have officially closed but if you email our Extension Program office on [email protected] they might accept a late application if you have special circumstances. They can explain what they need if you email them.

If you are interested in the Extension Program 2016 intake, applications will open in August this year. More information is available on our website.

Best of luck!

Yesterday at the ATARnotes lecture they mentioned they opened UMEP rego again. I have no clear circumstance for the late application but I fulfill requirements
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 20, 2015, 04:12:13 pm
I was trying to enrol last night when I got to the part where I had to put an emergency contact in. As I clicked "add emergency contact" it led me to a blank page. I tried it a few times and same thing. So I saved my progress and tried again today. Went to the link I was given via email and it says page not available??? So I logged into the student portal but don't know how to continue my enrolment from there. Help please?
My username is jle3 if that helps. Thanks!

Also, with accepting scholarships, all I need to do is choose 'accept' and update my bank account details right?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 04:35:43 pm
I was trying to enrol last night when I got to the part where I had to put an emergency contact in. As I clicked "add emergency contact" it led me to a blank page. I tried it a few times and same thing. So I saved my progress and tried again today. Went to the link I was given via email and it says page not available??? So I logged into the student portal but don't know how to continue my enrolment from there. Help please?
My username is jle3 if that helps. Thanks!

Also, with accepting scholarships, all I need to do is choose 'accept' and update my bank account details right?

Hey Jawnle,
Does this work for you? It does for me. You'll want to go to step 2.
If not, can I get you to try clearing your browser cache and cookies?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 20, 2015, 05:14:00 pm
Hey Jawnle,
Does this work for you? It does for me. You'll want to go to step 2.
If not, can I get you to try clearing your browser cache and cookies?

Yep thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 20, 2015, 05:18:22 pm
Is there a guide to 'enrolling into subjects'?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 05:20:40 pm
Is there a guide to 'enrolling into subjects'?

Showing you how to actually in enrol in a subject? Or am I misunderstanding.

If so, there is this.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: BLACKCATT on January 20, 2015, 05:36:29 pm
has anyone got their email(with student id) yet?  ???
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 05:40:18 pm
has anyone got their email(with student id) yet?  ???

I'd say yes, given that there are people on here enrolling. Have you completed step one of the enrollment process, account activation? Account activation.

Just realised you wrote Student ID and not username.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: kx4y on January 20, 2015, 05:45:38 pm
Yeah, I got my student ID in an email I received yesterday.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 20, 2015, 05:54:43 pm
So I'm all a bit confused about choosing my subjects. I'm doing BCom and I have to choose between an Actuarial/Business/General stream and I'm not sure which will fit me the best. On top of that I'm not sure how everything works with the study planner, and how/which majors work. Is this something that's cleared up in AAD or ?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 20, 2015, 06:09:17 pm
So I'm all a bit confused about choosing my subjects. I'm doing BCom and I have to choose between an Actuarial/Business/General stream and I'm not sure which will fit me the best. On top of that I'm not sure how everything works with the study planner, and how/which majors work. Is this something that's cleared up in AAD or ?

IIRC they do go over the study planner on AAD and how to enrol in subjects since it is quite confusing. Now that I think about it I think there was a session after the information lectures in which you go to the computers and people come around and help you enrol.

A major is a specialisation within a degree. The decision you have to make is whether or not you want to major in Actuarial Studies. If not, then you'll be picking the general stream. Try looking at the majors here http://bcom.unimelb.edu.au/ and see if Actuarial Studies interests you.

I'm pretty sure there will be information on majors on AAD, so check out the schedule here https://s3.amazonaws.com/uom-orientation/assets/files/000/000/009/original/FINAL-AAD_1_full_day_program.pdf?1417576156
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: katiesaliba on January 20, 2015, 07:12:57 pm
Hi unimelb,

I was wondering if you could tell me what this question from your enrolment procedure means:

Will you undertake in Australia any units of study contributing to the course of study of which the unit forms a part?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 07:23:03 pm
Hi unimelb,

I was wondering if you could tell me what this question from your enrolment procedure means:

Will you undertake in Australia any units of study contributing to the course of study of which the unit forms a part?

Thanks!

I'm not 100% sure on this one, but I think it's asking if you will be in Australia while undertaking your degree.
Seems to indicate that you are eligible for FEE-HELP or HECS-HELP, so if this is the area the question is in it sounds right.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mikehepro on January 20, 2015, 07:25:13 pm
Hi there:
Just wondering is the enrollment separate from doing our timetables?
Like if I don't enroll my subject ASAP, will I have a chance of more clashes since most people have already enrolled in a lecture?

Hi unimelb,

I was wondering if you could tell me what this question from your enrolment procedure means:

Will you undertake in Australia any units of study contributing to the course of study of which the unit forms a part?

Thanks!
Stevensmay is right. Pretty sure this just means that will you do any study in Australia, which i guess you will be. Since if you read the note beside the options, you can't get hecs help if you ticked no.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 20, 2015, 07:40:54 pm
Hi there:
Just wondering is the enrollment separate from doing our timetables?
Like if I don't enroll my subject ASAP, will I have a chance of more clashes since most people have already enrolled in a lecture?
Stevensmay is right. Pretty sure this just means that will you do any study in Australia, which i guess you will be. Since if you read the note beside the options, you can't get hecs help if you ticked no.

Hey Mikehepro,

Enrolment is separate to class registration (timetabling). You can complete your enrolment now as I'm sure your aware, but class registration opens at 10am on the 2nd of Feb. Seeing as you are in first year, the subjects are often quite large so there will be many lectures and tutorials for you to pick from, hopefully enabling you to avoid any clashes. Further to this only 90% of first year places in lectures and tutorials are released on the 2nd of Feb, the remaining 10% will be released on the 20th of Feb.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mikehepro on January 20, 2015, 07:45:02 pm
Hey Mikehepro,

Enrolment is separate to class registration (timetabling). You can complete your enrolment now as I'm sure your aware, but class registration opens at 10am on the 2nd of Feb. Seeing as you are in first year, the subjects are often quite large so there will be many lectures and tutorials for you to pick from, hopefully enabling you to avoid any clashes. Further to this only 90% of first year places in lectures and tutorials are released on the 2nd of Feb, the remaining 10% will be released on the 20th of Feb.

Oh ok sweet. I just want to go to career advice day first, then enroll ahha.  Thank you very much for clearing that up for me!!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: VHKprimus on January 20, 2015, 09:55:30 pm
has anyone got their email(with student id) yet?  ???

I have received mine and from the posts in this thread, it seems so have other people. If you are using gmail, make sure to check your promotions tab because that was where I found my email otherwise you should contact the university
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lucas.vang on January 20, 2015, 10:16:43 pm
Hi all, I'm just wondering what subjects should I take that will help me get into post grad medicine?

Im doing a bachelor of science btw

thanks in advanced
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Professor Polonsky on January 20, 2015, 10:25:05 pm
Hi all, I'm just wondering what subjects should I take that will help me get into post grad medicine?

Im doing a bachelor of science btw

thanks in advanced
Read this thread, starting from the linked post.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 21, 2015, 12:26:20 pm
Hi unimelb,

I'm having a hard time deciding what subjects to enrol in because I don't have my mind set on just one major in the BSc, but a few. So I was wondering if we have to complete this section before Academic Advice Day? Or can we leave it for now and come back to it after Academic Advice Day?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: infecthead on January 21, 2015, 12:55:19 pm
Hi unimelb,

I'm having a hard time deciding what subjects to enrol in because I don't have my mind set on just one major in the BSc, but a few. So I was wondering if we have to complete this section before Academic Advice Day? Or can we leave it for now and come back to it after Academic Advice Day?

Thanks!

I believe you have until the 30th of January to enrol in your subjects, so yes you can do it after AAD.

EDIT: Also a question of my own - I'm a first year student doing a BcSci, and I'm wondering how many subjects + breadth I need to choose. Is it 8 subjects a year (4 per semester) + 2 breadth a year (one per semester)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 21, 2015, 01:16:34 pm
With the study planner, is that planning our whole year? Where it says Level 2&3 subjects does that mean year 2/3 or am I just confusing myself?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 21, 2015, 03:37:13 pm
I believe you have until the 30th of January to enrol in your subjects, so yes you can do it after AAD.

EDIT: Also a question of my own - I'm a first year student doing a BcSci, and I'm wondering how many subjects + breadth I need to choose. Is it 8 subjects a year (4 per semester) + 2 breadth a year (one per semester)?

Normal course is 4 subjects per semester for a total of 8 a year. This is inclusive of any breadth you do. It's also not necessary to do one breadth per semester, you can do as many as you want as long as it doesn't exceed the total allowable. Keep in mind this will probably cause you to miss many prerequisite subjects.

As an example, my subjects last year were:
Semester 1
Calculus 2
Physics 1
Foundations of Computing
Introductory Microeconomics (breadth)

Semester 2
Linear Algebra
Engineering Systems Design 2
Introductory Macroeconomics (breadth)
Finance 1 (breadth)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 21, 2015, 03:38:09 pm
With the study planner, is that planning our whole year? Where it says Level 2&3 subjects does that mean year 2/3 or am I just confusing myself?

That generally means year 2 and 3 yes. Some students may elect to do a level 2 subject in the first year however it is a minority.
At this stage you will only need to enroll in your subjects for the coming year, no need to select your major or level 3 subjects etc.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: potahto on January 21, 2015, 04:12:02 pm
hello :) i'd like to ask whether all the access scholarships have been offered??? i've been hearing about ppl receiving it at random times since december... and ppl saying it should be offered a few days after uni offers  so i'm sorta cofused... thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 21, 2015, 05:21:26 pm
Hey Guys, I was wondering if you could help me a bit?

I undertook Biology of Cells And Organisms as UMEP last year, and now when I am about to select my subjects for Bachelor Of Science, my Study Plan says that I have been credited 12.500 points for the subject already. I also have Second Class Hons (H2B) = 72 grade.

Now I was wondering if I should do this subject again for the sake of "high" GPA for postgraduate Medicine?

I am not sure about anything relating to this, and would appreciate your help :)

Thankyou :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on January 21, 2015, 05:32:51 pm
Ive been offered a scholarship by Melbourne Uni, but when I went onto my account and clicked on "View My Scholarships", there was none there. Can anyone please help?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 21, 2015, 05:48:08 pm
Hey Guys, I was wondering if you could help me a bit?

I undertook Biology of Cells And Organisms as UMEP last year, and now when I am about to select my subjects for Bachelor Of Science, my Study Plan says that I have been credited 12.500 points for the subject already. I also have Second Class Hons (H2B) = 72 grade.

Now I was wondering if I should do this subject again for the sake of "high" GPA for postgraduate Medicine?

I am not sure about anything relating to this, and would appreciate your help :)

Thankyou :)

I don't think the university will allow you to repeat a subject because you passed and received credit points for it.

Also, in the grand scheme of things a H2B in a first year subject would have a minuscule difference as opposed to a H1 in your GPA for Med.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 21, 2015, 05:53:54 pm
I was wondering why there was no option for "adding the subject" to my Study Plan, maybe that is the reason. So can I be assured that I won't need to do it again merely for a higher mark?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 21, 2015, 06:17:59 pm
I was wondering why there was no option for "adding the subject" to my Study Plan, maybe that is the reason. So can I be assured that I won't need to do it again merely for a higher mark?

Yep you won't have to do the subject again. Enjoy your free Science elective!  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 21, 2015, 06:21:52 pm
Thankyou :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 21, 2015, 06:30:00 pm
I'm doing BCom and I'm interested in pursuing some sort of science/maths as my breadth. Where should I find which subjects I should look at? Also I saw that you can pursue a diploma in Mathematical science (or something like that) alongside your degree, is it worth it?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 21, 2015, 06:44:26 pm
I'm doing BCom and I'm interested in pursuing some sort of science/maths as my breadth. Where should I find which subjects I should look at? Also I saw that you can pursue a diploma in Mathematical science (or something like that) alongside your degree, is it worth it?

If you're interested in Maths consider undertaking the "mathematics pathway" to fulfil the quantitative components of the BCom(more info here: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/B-COM)

Some common science subjects in 1st year are
BIOL10004 and BIOL10005 if you like biology
CHEM10003 and CHEM10004 if you like chemistry (CHEM10007 first if you haven't done VCE chemistry)
there's also 1st year subjects in phyiscs, computing, engineering...etc

You can find all the information on subjects in the university handbook https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 22, 2015, 10:44:02 am
If you're interested in Maths consider undertaking the "mathematics pathway" to fulfil the quantitative components of the BCom(more info here: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/B-COM)

Some common science subjects in 1st year are
BIOL10004 and BIOL10005 if you like biology
CHEM10003 and CHEM10004 if you like chemistry (CHEM10007 first if you haven't done VCE chemistry)
there's also 1st year subjects in phyiscs, computing, engineering...etc

You can find all the information on subjects in the university handbook https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au

Did you do the mathematics path? I'm just interested in how intense it is. I didn't do specialist and feel like I'd be left behind despite having to do Calculus 1. Not sure how much is involved tbh, and whether I will enjoy THAT much maths considering I'd have to do Calculus 2 and Linear Algebra in second semester which to me seems like alot.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 22, 2015, 10:51:39 am
Ive been offered a scholarship by Melbourne Uni, but when I went onto my account and clicked on "View My Scholarships", there was none there. Can anyone please help?

You're best off calling 13melb.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: infecthead on January 22, 2015, 12:01:29 pm
Is it okay to do a level 3 breadth in my first year? I was thinking of doing UNIB30005 - Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis in semester 2 and I was wondering if it would be too difficult for a first year or something.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 22, 2015, 12:09:42 pm
Is it okay to do a level 3 breadth in my first year? I was thinking of doing UNIB30005 - Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis in semester 2 and I was wondering if it would be too difficult for a first year or something.

There is a policy in place that you need to complete 50 points of study at one level before attempting a subject in the next. I don't think this policy is heavily enforced but I feel that your student centre would recommend against it as level three subjects are generally regarded as being harder than level 1, which might cause academic performance issues.

What you can do is email the subject coordinator as they will know best about the level of difficulty and will be able to give a better estimate of how you will go. Once you've done this speak to your student centre, mention you've emailed the coordinator and ask them if you can enroll.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sjayne on January 22, 2015, 12:33:54 pm
What exactly happens at academic advice day? I understand that there our information sessions about courses but what happens in the enrolment sessions?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: VHKprimus on January 22, 2015, 02:00:31 pm
What exactly happens at academic advice day? I understand that there our information sessions about courses but what happens in the enrolment sessions?

If you are talking about the enrollment session that was in the email, they are the Science overview information session. You are given that time because of your last name. I don't know why they called it an enrollment session
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 22, 2015, 02:02:05 pm
If you are talking about the enrollment session that was in the email, they are the Science overview information session. You are given that time because of your last name. I don't know why they called it an enrollment session

So basically nothing official happens tomorrow and all enrolment is done online. It's all just information sessions and giving advice, yes?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 22, 2015, 02:21:39 pm
So basically nothing official happens tomorrow and all enrolment is done online. It's all just information sessions and giving advice, yes?

That's correct. I can't remember whether you can get your student card tomorrow, however that require you to have enrolled in at least one subject.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 22, 2015, 03:57:46 pm
Choosing subjects for Commerce at the moment.

Right now I've got
General - Commerce Level 1 Core
Introductory Macroeconomics
Introductory Microeconomics
Quantitative Methods 1

These add up to 37.5 credit points. I need a total of 100 right? How can I select subjects for what I want to major in (finance) and how many electives can I choose?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 22, 2015, 04:08:12 pm
Choosing subjects for Commerce at the moment.

Right now I've got
General - Commerce Level 1 Core
Introductory Macroeconomics
Introductory Microeconomics
Quantitative Methods 1

These add up to 37.5 credit points. I need a total of 100 right? How can I select subjects for what I want to major in (finance) and how many electives can I choose?

There should be a few different categories that all realistically do the same thing, so if a subject fits just leave it. I'm BSci but the concept is the same just different naming, so I have Science Level 1, Science Level 2, Science Level 3 and also Science Level 1, 2 & 3. Just fill these up with the appropriate subjects.

There should also be a category called Commerce Major, just pick your major there although it's not necessary yet. If the above doesn't match do you mind putting up screenshots of your study plan?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 22, 2015, 04:10:43 pm
There should be a few different categories that all realistically do the same thing, so if a subject fits just leave it. I'm BSci but the concept is the same just different naming, so I have Science Level 1, Science Level 2, Science Level 3 and also Science Level 1, 2 & 3. Just fill these up with the appropriate subjects.

There should also be a category called Commerce Major, just pick your major there although it's not necessary yet. If the above doesn't match do you mind putting up screenshots of your study plan?

What exactly is level 1, 2 and 3? Is that the year or...?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 22, 2015, 04:12:37 pm
What exactly is level 1, 2 and 3? Is that the year or...?

Refers to the very first digit in the subject name, so ECON10004 is level 1, ENGR20004 is level 2. They are generally first year, second year etc.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: soNasty on January 22, 2015, 06:34:09 pm
What are the subjects I would need to undertake if I wish to do medicine? I am enrolled in a bachelor of science at Melbourne. I didn't do physics in year 12 so I'm considering taking that up because it is assessed in the gamsat. Also, I loved methods in year 12, so I'm thinking of doing that aswell. Help please!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 22, 2015, 06:53:19 pm
Choosing subjects for Commerce at the moment.

Right now I've got
General - Commerce Level 1 Core
Introductory Macroeconomics
Introductory Microeconomics
Quantitative Methods 1

These add up to 37.5 credit points. I need a total of 100 right? How can I select subjects for what I want to major in (finance) and how many electives can I choose?

This is the closest thing I could find that might help you enrol, but even then it's pretty sketchy. On AAD they will tell you how to use the study planner and how to enrol in subjects.

The amount of electives you can choose from is dependent on the amount of breadth subjects you wish to take in your 1st year. If you take three level 1 breadth subjects this year, you'll have (following the standard quantitative pathway in the BCom): 

100-37.5(compulsory subjects)-37.5(breadth)=25 points of electives which is 2 subjects
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on January 22, 2015, 09:52:39 pm
What are the subjects I would need to undertake if I wish to do medicine? I am enrolled in a bachelor of science at Melbourne. I didn't do physics in year 12 so I'm considering taking that up because it is assessed in the gamsat. Also, I loved methods in year 12, so I'm thinking of doing that aswell. Help please!

As for medicine, it seems like all you need to do to meet the prerequisite are to complete these there units:
Anatomy:  ANAT20006 Principles of Human Structure
Biochemistry: BCMB20002 Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Physiology: PHYS20008 Human Physiology
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 22, 2015, 10:03:26 pm
Hey Guys, I would like to add to SoNasty's question please.

Apart from the major that you find the most interesting, which one would give you an advantage, or benefit you more if you want to attempt Post-grad Medicine?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: EspoirTron on January 22, 2015, 11:15:20 pm
Hey Guys, I would like to add to SoNasty's question please.

Apart from the major that you find the most interesting, which one would give you an advantage, or benefit you more if you want to attempt Post-grad Medicine?

Honestly, I can't think of a major that can give you a huge advantage when it comes to studying Medicine. Say if the Human Structure and Function major gave you more benefit for Medicine (there is nothing say that there is, but I'm speaking hypothetically). Well if you didn't enjoy it as much as say Immunology, then you may not perform as well in those HSF units, which consequently may lower your chances of entering Medicine. You're best off going for a major which you feel that you'll enjoy the most; obviously basing your decision around how you felt about preceding units. Play to your strengths.

Furthermore, when you study Medicine, it's all really a mixed bag of the majors. So either way, if you do something Health Science related, then I'm sure when you cover that topic in Medicine it'll be a bit easier to study, but again, every other student will be in this position.

Although make sure you complete the necessary pre-requisite units!.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Shenz0r on January 22, 2015, 11:17:48 pm
Agree with the above, it's better to follow your interests than to pick subjects "strategically".

No major is going to be really helpful for getting into medicine since admissions treats all applicants equally, as long as you've done the Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry pre-reqs in 2nd year you're good to apply.

As for what majors would give you an edge up when you actually study medicine, it is said they only help a little bit in first year med because they'll quickly revise it. It's pretty much the same advantage people who studied Year 12 bio get when they study first year bio...it helps but in the end it hardly makes a difference.

What are the subjects I would need to undertake if I wish to do medicine? I am enrolled in a bachelor of science at Melbourne. I didn't do physics in year 12 so I'm considering taking that up because it is assessed in the gamsat. Also, I loved methods in year 12, so I'm thinking of doing that aswell. Help please!

Did you do Specialist? If you did then you'll probably do Calculus 2 if you want to keep doing maths. If you didn't, it is said Calculus 1 covers spesh pretty well. Obviously not necessary for medicine but if you're interested you can schedule it in your study plan.

Studying physics does help for the GAMSAT but quite frankly it has a poor reputation (look a the subject reviews). And you can always self-study it. If you however work hard and persist, doing it at uni is probably the better option.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 22, 2015, 11:53:54 pm
Thank you for your help :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 23, 2015, 06:58:10 am
Hey guys,

For Academic Advice Day today, would it be okay if I attended another session instead of the time given to me if I'm not able to make it for my session? What exactly happens today and all the enrolments happen online, right?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 23, 2015, 09:58:48 am
Hey guys,

For Academic Advice Day today, would it be okay if I attended another session instead of the time given to me if I'm not able to make it for my session? What exactly happens today and all the enrolments happen online, right?

Thanks!

Probably too late now for my reply, but it'll be fine. They split it up because the lecture theatre can only hold so many. All enrollment is done online.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Spxtcs on January 23, 2015, 02:01:24 pm
Yep you won't have to do the subject again. Enjoy your free Science elective!  :)

So if I did UMEP Biology last year I can only choose 2 subjects (e.g. chemistry 1) and one breadth this year instead of 3 subjects? Can I do 3 subjects and 0 breadth?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on January 23, 2015, 03:47:31 pm
So if I did UMEP Biology last year I can only choose 2 subjects (e.g. chemistry 1) and one breadth this year instead of 3 subjects? Can I do 3 subjects and 0 breadth?

There is really no structure as long as you meet the point requirements. You can even opt to fill your whole first semester with subjects and then make up for the breadth next semester.

Today in at AAD, they even encouraged us to stray from the sample structures and experiment. However don't forget to include your prerequisite subjects.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 23, 2015, 11:24:04 pm
With the Request for Commonwealth Support and HECS-HELP form, I've completed it and have gotten an email informing me that it has been approved. However on the checklist, Service and Amenities Assistance is still labelled as yellow which according to the info above the page meaning the step is optional and may be either completed or skipped.
Should I be alright or should I get it further checked out until the bar becomes green?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jahxbhsais on January 23, 2015, 11:38:54 pm
If I was to graduate from a BSc with a chemical systems major, am I qualified to work as a petroleum engineer? Sorry if this is a stupid question, I'm confused atm
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: little.raindrop on January 24, 2015, 01:21:26 am
for first year are we allowed to choose level 2 (or possibly higher) breadth subjects, or can it ONLY be from level 1??  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 24, 2015, 01:43:14 am
for first year are we allowed to choose level 2 (or possibly higher) breadth subjects, or can it ONLY be from level 1??  :)

You're allowed to complete level 2 or 3 subjects once you complete your first semester(50 credit points)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 24, 2015, 02:40:12 am
If I was to graduate from a BSc with a chemical systems major, am I qualified to work as a petroleum engineer? Sorry if this is a stupid question, I'm confused atm

You won't be an accredited engineer, so no.

With the Request for Commonwealth Support and HECS-HELP form, I've completed it and have gotten an email informing me that it has been approved. However on the checklist, Service and Amenities Assistance is still labelled as yellow which according to the info above the page meaning the step is optional and may be either completed or skipped.
Should I be alright or should I get it further checked out until the bar becomes green?

If you happy paying the $220 p/a upfront then it isn't really an issue.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 24, 2015, 02:48:01 am
If you happy paying the $220 p/a upfront then it isn't really an issue.

I think you misunderstood me. Usually when the application for HECS is approved the bar on the checklist becomes green. Mine is still yellow which means it may not have be completed, however I got an email saying it got approved?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 24, 2015, 10:15:18 am
I think you misunderstood me. Usually when the application for HECS is approved the bar on the checklist becomes green. Mine is still yellow which means it may not have be completed, however I got an email saying it got approved?

Mine's still yellow too but I haven't got an email that says it's approved. I didn't realise we get one. I'm paying upfront though.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 24, 2015, 10:17:29 am
You're allowed to complete level 2 or 3 subjects once you complete your first semester(50 credit points)

so in semester 2, you're allowed to take level 2 or 3 breadth subjects but not semester 1 in first year?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 24, 2015, 11:15:31 am
I think you misunderstood me. Usually when the application for HECS is approved the bar on the checklist becomes green. Mine is still yellow which means it may not have be completed, however I got an email saying it got approved?

The SSAF can be paid by SA-HELP, not HECS-HELP. The SSAF part being yellow has no impact on whether you have applied for HECS or not as they are two different schemes.

If you've got the approved email for HECS then you are fine.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Coralista on January 24, 2015, 11:54:40 am
Hi! I also have a question in regards to the HECS application process if you guys don't mind answering. I just checked the status of my application form through student portal and the status is approved, However i have yet to receive an email about it, should I be worried?
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 24, 2015, 12:21:19 pm
Hi! I also have a question in regards to the HECS application process if you guys don't mind answering. I just checked the status of my application form through student portal and the status is approved, However i have yet to receive an email about it, should I be worried?
Thanks

No need to be worried yet, it's another month or two before you are actually required to make payments/have HECS (the census date). It might be just taking awhile for the emails to get out due to the number of new students.

Maybe after a week or so give 13MELB a call.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on January 24, 2015, 02:22:37 pm
I was just wondering since 4 level one subjects are required to qualify for the Melbourne MD, is it possible for a student in the bachelor of commerce to be given an extra level one breadth subject so they can meet this requirement?

thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Coralista on January 24, 2015, 03:14:08 pm
No need to be worried yet, it's another month or two before you are actually required to make payments/have HECS (the census date). It might be just taking awhile for the emails to get out due to the number of new students.

Maybe after a week or so give 13MELB a call.

Ok thanks!

On another note, I missed out on the diploma in languages session yesterday due to the commerce info running from 1-3. Does anyone know if I can take other breadth subjects if I wanted to fast track with the diploma through cross editing?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 24, 2015, 05:32:11 pm
Is it compulsory to complete a breadth subject at every level (1,2,3) or do I just need to complete a minimum of 4 throughout the duration of my course? I want to major in finance (Bach of Commerce) and in the third year there are 5 free subject spots which I want to fill up with 5 finance electives, not breadth subjects.

At a bare minimum you need to do 4 subjects, up to a maximum of 6. At least one of these needs to be a level 2 or 3 subject. You can only take 3 level 1 breadths, regardless of how many breadth you do. Details exactly how many subjects and at what levels you can take.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 24, 2015, 06:15:11 pm
At a bare minimum you need to do 4 subjects, up to a maximum of 6. At least one of these needs to be a level 2 or 3 subject. You can only take 3 level 1 breadths, regardless of how many breadth you do. Details exactly how many subjects and at what levels you can take.

Is this the same for Bachelor of Science?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 24, 2015, 06:17:36 pm
At a bare minimum you need to do 4 subjects, up to a maximum of 6. At least one of these needs to be a level 2 or 3 subject. You can only take 3 level 1 breadths, regardless of how many breadth you do. Details exactly how many subjects and at what levels you can take.

Just to add to this, a person from Unimelb responded to a question very similar to this on page 17 of this thread and suggested that perhaps a way around the breadth requirements was to do a Capstone subject(full fee ~$4k) during the summer.

Is this the same for Bachelor of Science?

It isn't the same as in Science as the prerequisite subjects for Med are science subjects and so they aren't breadth subjects in that degree.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 24, 2015, 07:26:12 pm
I can't seem to find 'intermediate finance' as a third year subject for 2015. Is it possible that it may become available again in 2017?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 24, 2015, 07:32:11 pm
I can't seem to find 'intermediate finance' as a third year subject for 2015. Is it possible that it may become available again in 2017?

Do you have a link to where Intermediate Finance is shown? I'm under the impression that Finance doesn't progress in the same way Economics does, it becomes Business Fi, Investments, Derivatives Securities etc.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 24, 2015, 11:12:02 pm
Do you have a link to where Intermediate Finance is shown? I'm under the impression that Finance doesn't progress in the same way Economics does, it becomes Business Fi, Investments, Derivatives Securities etc.

Intermediate Finance is shown on the comm finance brochure I received on AAD. Maybe it was from 2014? Because they now offer 'Street Finance' as shown on here http://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/finance/teach/subjects#FirstYear but this subject wasn't listed as an elective in the brochure.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 24, 2015, 11:41:59 pm
If I get HECS-HELP how much of the student contribution do I actually pay?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on January 24, 2015, 11:54:15 pm
I was just wondering since 4 level one subjects are required to qualify for the Melbourne MD, is it possible for a student in the bachelor of commerce to be given an extra level one breadth subject so they can meet this requirement?

thanks
this
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 25, 2015, 12:21:22 am
Intermediate Finance is shown on the comm finance brochure I received on AAD. Maybe it was from 2014? Because they now offer 'Street Finance' as shown on here http://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/finance/teach/subjects#FirstYear but this subject wasn't listed as an elective in the brochure.

If you're talking about the subject "Intermediate Personal Finance" I think they scrapped it....and considering it has 2 prerequisite subjects I don't think it's coming back. They must have replaced the subject code with Street Finance, which looks like a cool subject.

this

Already been answered on this page and on page 17 of thread by a person from Unimelb.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 25, 2015, 10:43:18 am
If I get HECS-HELP how much of the student contribution do I actually pay?

Assuming you are on a CSP, student contribution is about $900-1100 per subject, depending on what area they are in. All of this can be put on your HECS-HELP loan, so right now you pay nothing.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 25, 2015, 12:56:57 pm
To complete an Honours in Finance, it is compulsory to complete either basic econometrics or econometrics in your final year of study. To do these subjects, apparently you would have to have completed quantitative methods 2 in your second year. If I'm not too interested in maths and would prefer to complete Business Decision Analysis in my second year as my compulsory subject instead of quantitative methods 2, does this mean I wouldn't be able to complete an honours? Can this be confirmed?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 25, 2015, 01:02:38 pm
To complete an Honours in Finance, it is compulsory to complete either basic econometrics or econometrics in your final year of study. To do these subjects, apparently you would have to have completed quantitative methods 2 in your second year. If I'm not too interested in maths and would prefer to complete Business Decision Analysis in my second year as my compulsory subject instead of quantitative methods 2, does this mean I wouldn't be able to complete an honours? Can this be confirmed?

You could take Statistics instead, MAST20005. Alternatively if you only want to take Econometrics then Introductory Econometrics will also work, ECOM20001. If a requirement for Honours is the completion of Econometrics then yes, you won't be eligible.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bts on January 25, 2015, 01:07:48 pm
hello,
I was wondering if I'm a first yr student this yr does that mean i can only take breadths that are level 1, and then in second yr take breadths level 2 and then third yr level 3 and if i do an honours do i need to take breadths? and if so, they have to be level 4? is that how it works?

and if there is anyone doing biomed, for the breadths it says ' you must complete at least 4 breadths subjects, plus another two that are breadths/biomed/sceince subjects? does that mean i can take a science subject that normally bachelor of science kids would do as my breath?

a little confused...

thank you
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 25, 2015, 01:15:20 pm
hello,
I was wondering if I'm a first yr student this yr does that mean i can only take breadths that are level 1, and then in second yr take breadths level 2 and then third yr level 3 and if i do an honours do i need to take breadths? and if so, they have to be level 4? is that how it works?

Technically a policy exists that you must do 4 subjects at one level before going to the next, but this is rarely enforced. Just to ease yourself into university it might be best to leave the level 2 to semester 2, but you could do it in semester 1 if you really wanted. You need to take a minimum of 4 breadth with a maximum of 6, of this only 3 of them can be level 1 subjects.

Eg I could do 3 level 1's and a level 2, or 2 level 1's and 4 level 3's if I wanted to.
Honours doesn't have breadth, so no.

I'm not as sure about the biomed part, but I believe you're interpreting it correctly.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bts on January 25, 2015, 01:28:28 pm
thank you stevensmay,
so i can do lvl 2 or 3 in first yr? or i can do all level 1 for all my breadths in this degree?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 25, 2015, 01:37:34 pm
thank you stevensmay,
so i can do lvl 2 or 3 in first yr? or i can do all level 1 for all my breadths in this degree?

You could yes.

You cannot do all level 1 breadth no, a maximum of three level 1's are allowed.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 25, 2015, 05:05:01 pm
Why isn't there an enrol option like the above subject for fundamentals in chem?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 25, 2015, 05:41:14 pm
I had done UMEP Biology last year (only Semester 1) and I have gained credit for that. Now since I have a"free slot"for the first semester, will I be able to take an extra breadth? The reason that I ask this is because the handbook says that max 37.5 credit points for Breadth subjects may be gained at Level 1? So do you think the Uni will be lenient enough to consider this request for me or are they very strict?

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on January 25, 2015, 05:47:56 pm
Why isn't there an enrol option like the above subject for fundamentals in chem?

As it states under the subject in the 'more details group details' section that if you did VCE Chemistry and attained 29 or more, then you are not allowed to do fundamental chemistry. If you want to do Chemistry then you can do Chemistry 1. If you did not do VCE Chemistry I think it is best you contact the uni
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 25, 2015, 05:48:32 pm
I had done UMEP Biology last year (only Semester 1) and I have gained credit for that. Now since I have a"free slot"for the first semester, will I be able to take an extra breadth? The reason that I ask this is because the handbook says that max 37.5 credit points for Breadth subjects may be gained at Level 1? So do you think the Uni will be lenient enough to consider this request for me or are they very strict?

I think they are pretty strict when it comes to credit points and course restrictions.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 25, 2015, 05:51:05 pm
oh ok, Thankyou :)....

And wait whaaaa? I was hoping to do Chemistry Fundamentals! What?! I want to do it, even though I didn't get lower than 29 (got 32 actually) will they let me do it? I'm still pretty shit at Chemistry! :S :( ?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 25, 2015, 05:54:53 pm
oh ok, Thankyou :)....

And wait whaaaa? I was hoping to do Chemistry Fundamentals! What?! I want to do it, even though I didn't get lower than 29 (got 32 actually) will they let me do it? I'm still pretty shit at Chemistry! :S :( ?

I think they're also pretty strict about anti-requisites too.  :P
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 25, 2015, 06:02:15 pm
All this hype about freedom in Uni is BS i think, especially now that I realized I can't do my favorite subjects! I guess I will have to suck it up :( But If I do Chem 1 in Semester 1 , Chem 2 and Bio 2 in Semester 2 , and 3 Breadths across the year, I have one unfilled slot in Semester 1 for a non breadth subject. Any suggestions for what I could do (that is easy too) ? :(
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Starlight on January 25, 2015, 07:36:12 pm
All this hype about freedom in Uni is BS i think, especially now that I realized I can't do my favorite subjects! I guess I will have to suck it up :( But If I do Chem 1 in Semester 1 , Chem 2 and Bio 2 in Semester 2 , and 3 Breadths across the year, I have one unfilled slot in Semester 1 for a non breadth subject. Any suggestions for what I could do (that is easy too) ? :(

Take a look at the subject reviews in the UoM board under the science section and see what they have been rated, the subject content and whether the reviewers thought the subject was easy or difficult based on assessment. Also why aren't you able to take your favourite subjects?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 25, 2015, 07:45:04 pm
So what is the prereq for enrolling in Chem 1 and chem 2? Do I need a specific study score in chem to enrol in chem 1.. or is the completion of VCE chemistry 3/4 sufficient.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 25, 2015, 07:49:53 pm
So what is the prereq for enrolling in Chem 1 and chem 2? Do I need a specific study score in chem to enrol in chem 1.. or is the completion of VCE chemistry 3/4 sufficient.

Thanks!

I think if you scored above 29 you enroll in Chemistry 1.if you got below this or haven't done vce Chem you do fundamentals.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Cheesecakelover on January 25, 2015, 08:00:03 pm
Hey all, quite confused about my enrollment and the study planner (couldn't attend AAD)
anyways, In Bcomm, does it matter which semester the (3) core subjects are completed in? And also i got over 27 in spesh so i am required to do calc 2 and linear algebra (but apparently these are counted as breadths?) So does that mean i can complete only 1 more breadth?

Just wondering but do people just randomly enrol in either semester for a subject? or is there a strategic plan to this?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 25, 2015, 08:11:55 pm
Hey all, quite confused about my enrollment and the study planner (couldn't attend AAD)
anyways, In Bcomm, does it matter which semester the (3) core subjects are completed in? And also i got over 27 in spesh so i am required to do calc 2 and linear algebra (but apparently these are counted as breadths?) So does that mean i can complete only 1 more breadth?

Just wondering but do people just randomly enrol in either semester for a subject? or is there a strategic plan to this?

No it doesn't matter in which order you complete the core subjects but you must do Intro Micro before Intro Macro. Also, it's not compulsory that you do Calc 2 and Linear Algebra if you get 27+ in Spesh, because you can choose to do the other quantitative pathway in the Bcom. Calc 2 and Lin Alg will be credited as breadth subjects and you will have one more level 1 breadth.

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/B-COM Under the heading "Quantitaive requirement" it shows you the 2 pathways which you can choose.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Cheesecakelover on January 25, 2015, 08:29:48 pm
Hey thanks for the quick reply!
Is it wise to only have 1 major? going with the standard quantitative path, i have no clue what else to choose (right now, i have 3 core subjects and finance 1), leaving me with 4 other subjects to choose.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 25, 2015, 08:45:02 pm
Hey thanks for the quick reply!
Is it wise to only have 1 major? going with the standard quantitative path, i have no clue what else to choose (right now, i have 3 core subjects and finance 1), leaving me with 4 other subjects to choose.

Can't really say how doing 1 major as opposed to 2 in Bcom affects employment opportunities and such, but it does help in narrowing down the subjects you choose in later years if you have 2 areas of interest.

With your remaining points you can choose up to three level 1 breadth subjects, so you have a lot of freedom. If you have any interests in languages or science subjects you can probably pick them up as breadth. You might like to explore the different disciplines in commerce and pick up electives like one of the accounting, marketing or management subjects. It's completely up to you.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Cheesecakelover on January 25, 2015, 09:05:56 pm
thank you so much :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 25, 2015, 09:21:26 pm
No problem, happy to help.  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on January 25, 2015, 09:22:20 pm
Oh okay, let's say I got below 29. Would I still be able to enrol in Chemistry 1? In the handbook it says that the completion of Units 3/4 chemistry would make us eligible for this subject..

From the people I talked to at AAD, all they asked me was if I had completed VCE chemistry, if yes start at Chemistry 1 so it seems it doesn't matter what score you get as long as you did it, you should be doing Chemistry 1. I think Fundamental Chemistry is only for those who did do Chemistry and scored lower than 29 because they wouldn't feel confident going into Chemistry 1 where its building upon your VCE chemistry knowledge but that's just my guess. You can always contact the uni and see if there are any exceptions
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 26, 2015, 01:20:26 am
If I sat the placement test for Japanese and was found to be at the proficient level, would I still be allowed to enrol at the intermediate level (Japanese 3 and japanese 4)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 26, 2015, 02:59:20 am
"No more than 37.5 points of breadth at Level 1 may be included in the BSc"

The handbook says this.

Does this mean that we can take four breadths at Level 1, but only three of them can be Level 1 Breadths (and 1 possibly Level 2 Breadth) ?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Professor Polonsky on January 26, 2015, 08:19:48 am
It means what it says. :P

In total in your degree, you can't take more than three level 1 breadth units.  It follows that you can't take more than three in your first year. Whether you should do that or save them I'll let someone who'd know answer.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: simpak on January 26, 2015, 09:49:18 am
Why do you want to take four breadth in first year?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on January 26, 2015, 11:03:17 am
"No more than 37.5 points of breadth at Level 1 may be included in the BSc"

The handbook says this.

Does this mean that we can take four breadths at Level 1, but only three of them can be Level 1 Breadths (and 1 possibly Level 2 Breadth) ?

You can take four breadth in first year, but only three can be first year (level 1) subjects. One must be a level 2 or 3 subject.

For example:

Semester 1: 2xLevel 1 Science, 2xLevel 1 Breadth
Semester 2: 2x Level 1 Science, 1xLevel 1 Breadth, 1x Level 2 Breadth

Although, I'd keep your breadths for later years.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on January 26, 2015, 03:36:31 pm
Hey unimelb and atar notes users

I'm doing a bachelor of Science at Melbourne Uni and wondering what subjects I should choose that would gear me towards the Gamsat for postgraduate medicine. I was thinking, my 6 science subjects would be:
chem 1
chem 2
biology of cells and organisms
genetics and the evolution of life
Physics 1
calculus 2

and quite undecided on my breath but was thinking
foundations of computing
foundations of algorithm

thoughts?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 26, 2015, 03:47:35 pm
Hey unimelb and atar notes users

I'm doing a bachelor of Science at Melbourne Uni and wondering what subjects I should choose that would gear me towards the Gamsat for postgraduate medicine. I was thinking, my 6 science subjects would be:
chem 1
chem 2
biology of cells and organisms
genetics and the evolution of life
Physics 1
calculus 2

and quite undecided on my breath but was thinking
foundations of computing
foundations of algorithm

thoughts?

I can't say what will prepare you for GAMSAT but those 2 computing subjects are science subjects and they don't count as breadth for BSc students.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on January 26, 2015, 05:44:01 pm
Hey guys

Should you study ahead for university subjects? I want to do really well in chem and calculus 2 this year, so would it be wise studying in advance? or is it a waste of time? thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 26, 2015, 09:21:21 pm
Are there any advantages of paying student contribution fees partially upfront with HECS?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 27, 2015, 10:09:25 am
Hi everyone, we're back after the long weekend and working through your questions now. :) Hope you all enjoyed Academic Advice Day!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 27, 2015, 11:43:02 am
What are the dates for enrolling into subjects and registering for classes?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 27, 2015, 01:30:43 pm
What are the dates for enrolling into subjects and registering for classes?

http://enrolment.unimelb.edu.au/dates/class-registration-dates

http://ask.unimelb.edu.au/app/answers/detail/a_id/5768/~/class-registration-dates

Enrolment Census Date- January 30
Class registration for undergraduate students- Feb 2 -->10 am
if post-grad and honours--tomorrow 10 am
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 27, 2015, 01:31:28 pm
Hi there, I'm just looking for some help with my subjects for my BCom.

So I (at the moment) am interested in a double major in both Finance and Accounting (with the obvious potential to switch to an economics major in second year) which results in a pretty packed pathway in terms of subjects. I have no free slots in regards to choosing my own but more specifically for majoring in Accounting I have to complete Principles of Business Law as a "specified breadth". Does that mean it will contribute 12.5 points to my breadth credits and I'll have to complete another 3 during my degree to reach the quota? or it will count as a commerce subject?

I believe I have all the subjects I need;

Introductory microeconomics
Quantitative Methods 1
Accounting Reports and Analysis
Finance 1

Introductory macroeconomics
Introductory Financial accounting
Accounting processes and Analysis
Principles of Business Law

So to clarify this will leave me with a minimum of 3 other breadth subjects to be completed in second and third year?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 27, 2015, 01:55:07 pm
Hi there, I'm just looking for some help with my subjects for my BCom.

So I (at the moment) am interested in a double major in both Finance and Accounting (with the obvious potential to switch to an economics major in second year) which results in a pretty packed pathway in terms of subjects. I have no free slots in regards to choosing my own but more specifically for majoring in Accounting I have to complete Principles of Business Law as a "specified breadth". Does that mean it will contribute 12.5 points to my breadth credits and I'll have to complete another 3 during my degree to reach the quota? or it will count as a commerce subject?

I believe I have all the subjects I need;

Introductory microeconomics
Quantitative Methods 1
Accounting Reports and Analysis
Finance 1

Introductory macroeconomics
Introductory Financial accounting
Accounting processes and Analysis
Principles of Business Law

So to clarify this will leave me with a minimum of 3 other breadth subjects to be completed in second and third year?

If you do dbl major in acc/fin you won't be doing finance 1 because there won't be extra space for the commerce elective. You need to choose another breadth subject for your first year in addition to principles of business law. You'd also need to complete Corporate Law in year 2 and Taxation Law 1 in year 3 to receive your professional accreditation for accounting. So it's compulsory to complete the Business Law Breadth track (3 subs) if you're doing accounting. I've attached a sample study planner for acc/fin if it helps. Someone correct me if I'm wrong :P
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 27, 2015, 01:56:56 pm
Does that mean it will contribute 12.5 points to my breadth credits and I'll have to complete another 3 during my degree to reach the quota? or it will count as a commerce subject?


Think the business law breadth track would count as 3 breadth subjects - 37.5 credit points
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 27, 2015, 02:18:29 pm
If you do dbl major in acc/fin you won't be doing finance 1 because there won't be extra space for the commerce elective. You need to choose another breadth subject for your first year in addition to principles of business law. You'd also need to complete Corporate Law in year 2 and Taxation Law 1 in year 3 to receive your professional accreditation for accounting. So it's compulsory to complete the Business Law Breadth track (3 subs) if you're doing accounting. I've attached a sample study planner for acc/fin if it helps. Someone correct me if I'm wrong :P

There's nothing wrong with doing Finance 1 as a commerce elective. It's not compulsory to do 2 breadths in 1st year, doing one breadth is fine.

However if you want, you can choose not to do Finance 1, and you'd still able to do the Finance major, provided you have done QM1 and a 2nd semester accounting subject.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 27, 2015, 02:26:24 pm
Do we buy our own labcoat and safety glasses? If so, where can we buy them aside from the Co-op bookshop?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 27, 2015, 02:40:22 pm
There's nothing wrong with doing Finance 1 as a commerce elective. It's not compulsory to do 2 breadths in 1st year, doing one breadth is fine.

However if you want, you can choose not to do Finance 1, and you'd still able to do the Finance major, provided you have done QM1 and a 2nd semester accounting subject.

I wanted to do finance 1 aswell but the subject enrollment page makes it compulsory for me to choose 2 breadth subjects for some reason
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 27, 2015, 02:57:07 pm
Are there any advantages of paying student contribution fees partially upfront with HECS?

Hi Mieow,

More information about the benefits of paying your student contribution upfront is available here.

If I sat the placement test for Japanese and was found to be at the proficient level, would I still be allowed to enrol at the intermediate level (Japanese 3 and japanese 4)?

The Faculty of Arts recommends you sit the placement test for Japanese, and you can then speak to program staff members if you do not feel you have been placed at an appropriate level.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 27, 2015, 02:59:43 pm
If you do dbl major in acc/fin you won't be doing finance 1 because there won't be extra space for the commerce elective. You need to choose another breadth subject for your first year in addition to principles of business law. You'd also need to complete Corporate Law in year 2 and Taxation Law 1 in year 3 to receive your professional accreditation for accounting. So it's compulsory to complete the Business Law Breadth track (3 subs) if you're doing accounting. I've attached a sample study planner for acc/fin if it helps. Someone correct me if I'm wrong :P

Thanks so much for your help :)

 
There's nothing wrong with doing Finance 1 as a commerce elective. It's not compulsory to do 2 breadths in 1st year, doing one breadth is fine.

However if you want, you can choose not to do Finance 1, and you'd still able to do the Finance major, provided you have done QM1 and a 2nd semester accounting subject.

Thankyou!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 27, 2015, 03:09:54 pm
On another note, I missed out on the diploma in languages session yesterday due to the commerce info running from 1-3. Does anyone know if I can take other breadth subjects if I wanted to fast track with the diploma through cross editing?

Hi Coralista,

With the approval of your home faculty it is possible to cross-credit subjects from your diploma to your bachelor course provided that suitable spaces remain in the bachelor course structure. You will need to check with a Commerce course advisor about which subjects you are able to cross credit. Give us a call on 13MELB and we can help you out.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 27, 2015, 03:31:36 pm
I've read the Fees section and the FAQs but still not quite sure if we can pay any fees now like the Student Services and Amenities Fee. (When do we pay the SSAF and the subject fees?) Do we have to wait for an email with instructions or do we go straight to the Fees section in my.unimelb.edu.au ?

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 04:07:56 pm
I've read the Fees section and the FAQs but still not quite sure if we can pay any fees now like the Student Services and Amenities Fee. (When do we pay the SSAF and the subject fees?) Do we have to wait for an email with instructions or do we go straight to the Fees section in my.unimelb.edu.au ?

You have to wait until after the census date, which is normally about 4-6 weeks into semester. After this you'll get an invoice generated which you can pay (you'll be emailed a notification).
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: slinkykitty on January 27, 2015, 04:08:43 pm
Hello,  i am having difficulty adding the 2nd semester breadth subject to the study planner.

I have completed the language test, have added japanese level 3 but cannot add in jap level 4,   I get a message in red "no more than 37.5 of level 1 breadth.  I have only chosen 12.5 points of breadth so far.    How can i add in the japanese 4 for 2nd semester?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 04:11:09 pm
Hello,  i am having difficulty adding the 2nd semester breadth subject to the study planner.

I have completed the language test, have added japanese level 3 but cannot add in jap level 4,   I get a message in red "no more than 37.5 of level 1 breadth.  I have only chosen 12.5 points of breadth so far.    How can i add in the japanese 4 for 2nd semester?

Can you post up a picture of your study plan please?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: slinkykitty on January 27, 2015, 04:16:50 pm
Here is the study plan.  Thankyou for helping



Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 04:19:54 pm
Here is the study plan.  Thankyou for helping

Odd. Have you tried adding it via both Breadth Subjects and Free Choice?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: slinkykitty on January 27, 2015, 04:26:23 pm
Just tried free choice and it will let me add that.   Will that work ok, can that free choice be somehow converted to a breadth.    Should i add that as a free choice?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 27, 2015, 04:28:30 pm
I'm having trouble accessing the placement test for me to enrol in Japanese. It keeps telling me my username and/or password is wrong. Is this the correct website?
https://edtech.le.unimelb.edu.au/login/lptjapanese/
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 04:29:32 pm
Just tried free choice and it will let me add that.   Will that work ok, can that free choice be somehow converted to a breadth.    Should i add that as a free choice?

It'd be best to add it under breadth, otherwise you'll need to see your Student Centre at some point to get it rearranged. There shouldn't be any reason you can't add it to breadth, is that the only error message displayed?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: slinkykitty on January 27, 2015, 04:30:47 pm
I'm having trouble accessing the placement test for me to enrol in Japanese. It keeps telling me my username and/or password is wrong. Is this the correct website?
https://edtech.le.unimelb.edu.au/login/lptjapanese/
. That is the same page i used,  it only works on a computer not tablets etc,
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 04:31:07 pm
I'm having trouble accessing the placement test for me to enrol in Japanese. It keeps telling me my username and/or password is wrong. Is this the correct website?
https://edtech.le.unimelb.edu.au/login/lptjapanese/

Just to check, you are using your username and not student number/email address? I can access the site fine.
If you've got your student card you can try resetting your password at accounts.unimelb.edu.au
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: slinkykitty on January 27, 2015, 04:32:49 pm
It'd be best to add it under breadth, otherwise you'll need to see your Student Centre at some point to get it rearranged. There shouldn't be any reason you can't add it to breadth, is that the only error message displayed?

Yes, it keeps saying that only 37.5 points can be added,  instead of "add to study planner"
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: slinkykitty on January 27, 2015, 04:36:01 pm
 Here is a screenshot of trying to add in the 2nd semester breadth
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 27, 2015, 04:43:58 pm
Just to check, you are using your username and not student number/email address? I can access the site fine.
If you've got your student card you can try resetting your password at accounts.unimelb.edu.au

Yeah I can use my username & pw to log onto the student portal just fine but it doesn't let me log on to the placement test  ???
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 04:47:17 pm
Yeah I can use my username & pw to log onto the student portal just fine but it doesn't let me log on to the placement test  ???

Sometimes the two systems can get out of sync with each other, resetting often fixes this. Otherwise you'll probably need to submit an ITS request.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 27, 2015, 04:51:30 pm
You have to wait until after the census date, which is normally about 4-6 weeks into semester. After this you'll get an invoice generated which you can pay (you'll be emailed a notification).

Do you mean enrolment census date-Jan 30?
And subject fees for semester 1 will be due March 31st, yes?
What about the SSAF? When will we pay for this?

And also, we buy our own labcoats and safety glasses, right? Are there any other shops, aside from the Co-op bookshop that sell those?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 27, 2015, 05:03:30 pm
Do you mean enrolment census date-Jan 30?
And subject fees for semester 1 will be due March 31st, yes?
What about the SSAF? When will we pay for this?

And also, we buy our own labcoats and safety glasses, right? Are there any other shops, aside from the Co-op bookshop that sell those?

Thank you!

The census date for each subject varies, most of them it is around the 31st of March. Once this date is reached you are now liable to pay for any subjects you are enrolled in at that time, and if you withdraw it will be noted on your transcript. Before this you have no obligation to pay if you withdraw etc. If you don't pay by then and have HECS-HELP it will get put onto that.

As an example last year my invoice was issued on the 3rd of March and payable by the 31st.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 27, 2015, 05:18:06 pm
Do you mean enrolment census date-Jan 30?
And subject fees for semester 1 will be due March 31st, yes?
What about the SSAF? When will we pay for this?

And also, we buy our own labcoats and safety glasses, right? Are there any other shops, aside from the Co-op bookshop that sell those?

Thank you!

I believe the SSAF will need to be payed by March 31, but don't quote me on that.

Not sure if the University supplies labcoats for pracs, but if you need to buy one try get one off 2nd or 3rd yr students, or even students who bought one for VCE and have no need for it anymore. Also look out for some cheapo stuff in Oweek, they might be selling them there(I know monash does this.)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 27, 2015, 06:16:42 pm
I believe the SSAF will need to be payed by March 31, but don't quote me on that.

Not sure if the University supplies labcoats for pracs, but if you need to buy one try get one off 2nd or 3rd yr students, or even students who bought one for VCE and have no need for it anymore. Also look out for some cheapo stuff in Oweek, they might be selling them there(I know monash does this.)
Thank you very much! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 27, 2015, 11:17:22 pm
I just read on another post that if you fail a subject in one year, and then if you repeat it again and get a GPA of 7, both your results (fail and the GPA of 7) will count for your post grad med degree. I did a UMEP subject last year, and failed semester two. This year I'm going to be doing the subject again in semester two, and suppose if I get GPA 7 in that subject this year, would my fail count from last year? How would that be fair?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: AbominableMowman on January 27, 2015, 11:28:56 pm
I just read on another post that if you fail a subject in one year, and then if you repeat it again and get a GPA of 7, both your results (fail and the GPA of 7) will count for your post grad med degree. I did a UMEP subject last year, and failed semester two. This year I'm going to be doing the subject again in semester two, and suppose if I get GPA 7 in that subject this year, would my fail count from last year? How would that be fair?
No i dont think it works that way because GEMSAS and Melbourne Uni only look at the last 3 years of your undergraduate studies.   Plus if you don't apply for credit for the subject (which you shouldnt because you are repeating it)  i don't think it counts as part of your undergraduate studies anyway.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 28, 2015, 12:53:40 am
I'm looking at the time table for introductory microeconomics and I was wondering if anyone can explain to me how this table works. Like will there be 3 classes at 8am, 1 at 9am, 2 at 10am on mondays etc etc ?
Also, what does "size: 18" mean? Is that the number of students or...?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 28, 2015, 01:56:43 am
Thankyou AbdominableMowman :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 28, 2015, 02:25:38 am
I'm looking at the time table for introductory microeconomics and I was wondering if anyone can explain to me how this table works. Like will there be 3 classes at 8am, 1 at 9am, 2 at 10am on mondays etc etc ?
Also, what does "size: 18" mean? Is that the number of students or...?

For Intro Micro, there are 2 lectures and 1 tutorial per week. Your screen shot shows all the tutorial times which are available for you to choose on class registration day. All these tutorials will have the same content. Intro Micro has possibly the largest amount of enrolments(we talking 1000+) out of any university subject as it's a compulsory subject for all Bcom students, economics is a major in Arts, and it is a common breadth(awesome subject), so there's going to be a lottttt of tutorial classes. All you gotta do is pick one. And yeah size:18 sounds like the amount of people per tutorial class.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 28, 2015, 12:42:05 pm
So someone raised this earlier but I just want to clarify. Is it possible to do only 1 breadth subject in year 1 (BCom)? I'm on the study planner trying to enter all my subjects but it forces me to take 2 breadth which would leave me without having done Finance 1. Someone also said that if I do accounting major pre-requisites then I don't need to complete Finance 1 to pursue a finance major? Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 28, 2015, 12:47:57 pm
So someone raised this earlier but I just want to clarify. Is it possible to do only 1 breadth subject in year 1 (BCom)? I'm on the study planner trying to enter all my subjects but it forces me to take 2 breadth which would leave me without having done Finance 1. Someone also said that if I do accounting major pre-requisites then I don't need to complete Finance 1 to pursue a finance major? Thanks!

You can do 1 breadth per year, so that isn't an issue. What do you mean by 'forcing you to take 2 breadth'? Can you put up a picture of your study plan or similar?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 28, 2015, 12:58:48 pm
You can do 1 breadth per year, so that isn't an issue. What do you mean by 'forcing you to take 2 breadth'? Can you put up a picture of your study plan or similar?

Hmm I'm not sure how to take a picture of what it's trying to force me to do but essentially: When I try to select more commerce electives as subjects there is no more allocated credit points and therefore won't let me select them. Instead I've got 12.5 free credit points in the breadth section:
Spoiler
http://i.imgur.com/LVTvVMg.png

It's weird to explain haha, it just won't let me select anymore commerce electives because I don't have any spare credit points allocated to spend in that area apparently.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 28, 2015, 01:07:53 pm
Hmm I'm not sure how to take a picture of what it's trying to force me to do but essentially: When I try to select more commerce electives as subjects there is no more allocated credit points and therefore won't let me select them. Instead I've got 12.5 free credit points in the breadth section:
Spoiler
http://i.imgur.com/LVTvVMg.png

It's weird to explain haha, it just won't let me select anymore commerce electives because I don't have any spare credit points allocated to spend in that area apparently.
Try and see if you can slot the subjects in under a different heading, their location on your study plan doesn't really matter.
If not, any chance you can private message me your student number?

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 28, 2015, 02:08:18 pm
Hi everyone,

Thank you again for all your questions!

We're trying our best to keep up, but remember you can always call, email or live chat with us via 13MELB if you have a question about your specific situation. We are available 9am-5pm on the phone and 10am-7pm on live chat, and can give you advice about your course plan from faculty specialists if needed.

We have some responses to earlier questions from the Faculty of Science:

Hey guys

Should you study ahead for university subjects? I want to do really well in chem and calculus 2 this year, so would it be wise studying in advance? or is it a waste of time? thanks

Hey unimelb and atar notes users

I'm doing a bachelor of Science at Melbourne Uni and wondering what subjects I should choose that would gear me towards the Gamsat for postgraduate medicine. I was thinking, my 6 science subjects would be:
chem 1
chem 2
biology of cells and organisms
genetics and the evolution of life
Physics 1
calculus 2

and quite undecided on my breath but was thinking
foundations of computing
foundations of algorithm

thoughts?

Hi Edward,

There is no harm in checking out your textbooks and readers ahead of time! Once you start formal classes your lecturers and tutors will be able to guide you in the best way to excel at your subjects.

The 6 Science Subjects you have selected (CHEM10003, CHEM10004, BIOL10004, BIOL10005, PHYC10003 and MAST10006) would definitely assist you in preparing for the GAMSAT. Further information can be found on the Graduate Medical School Admissions website.
 
Please note, COMP10001 Foundations of Computing and COMP10002 Foundations of Algorithms are considered science electives. Breadth subjects offer you the opportunity to choose subjects from outside your major study area (non-science). You can do a search specifically for your breadth options in the University Handbook here.

All the best for your studies :)

I had done UMEP Biology last year (only Semester 1) and I have gained credit for that. Now since I have a"free slot"for the first semester, will I be able to take an extra breadth? The reason that I ask this is because the handbook says that max 37.5 credit points for Breadth subjects may be gained at Level 1? So do you think the Uni will be lenient enough to consider this request for me or are they very strict?

"No more than 37.5 points of breadth at Level 1 may be included in the BSc"

The handbook says this.

Does this mean that we can take four breadths at Level 1, but only three of them can be Level 1 Breadths (and 1 possibly Level 2 Breadth) ?

Hi Gutthi,

Welcome to Science :)

The subject requirements or rules for breadth study for BSc students are that no more that 37.5 points of Breadth at Level 1 can be completed.  That is, you wont be able to take more than three breadth subjects at level 1.
 
If you have been awarded advanced standing you may like to visit us at the Science Student Centre to discuss subject selection/course planning advice - more information here.
 
You can find out more about Breadth here and do a search specifically for your breadth options here.

So what is the prereq for enrolling in Chem 1 and chem 2? Do I need a specific study score in chem to enrol in chem 1.. or is the completion of VCE chemistry 3/4 sufficient.

Thanks!

Hi J,

The prerequisite for CHEM10003 Chemistry 1 is VCE Unit 3/4 Chemistry with a score of 25 or more. Once you have successfully completed CHEM10003 Chemistry 1, you are then eligible to enrol into CHEM10004 Chemistry 2. More info here and here.

All the best :)


So if I did UMEP Biology last year I can only choose 2 subjects (e.g. chemistry 1) and one breadth this year instead of 3 subjects? Can I do 3 subjects and 0 breadth?

Hi Spxtcs,

It sounds like you could do with some one on one advice from our Student Advisers. We recommend you either visit the Science Student Centre and speak to a staff member at the front counter or make an appointment with us. We are open 9am to 5pm Monday to Friday. Alternatively you can contact us via email, chat or phone (make sure you include your student ID) if you are unable to come in before the 30 January.

If you haven’t already, check out the Academic Advice Guide for more info.
 
What are the subjects I would need to undertake if I wish to do medicine? I am enrolled in a bachelor of science at Melbourne. I didn't do physics in year 12 so I'm considering taking that up because it is assessed in the gamsat. Also, I loved methods in year 12, so I'm thinking of doing that aswell. Help please!

Hi there,

We recommend you make an appointment with one of our Student Advisers to discuss your subject choice for 2015, as you want to make sure that you are completing the correct prerequisite subjects for your intended major and the Doctor of Medicine.

You can either visit the Science Student Centre and speak to a staff member at the front counter or make an appointment with us. We are open 9am to 5pm Monday to Friday. Alternatively you can contact us via email, chat or phone (make sure you include your student ID) if you are unable to come in before the 30 January.

Further information on Medicine prerequisites can be found here. And if you haven’t already, check out the Academic Advice Guide for more info.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 28, 2015, 02:10:33 pm
So someone raised this earlier but I just want to clarify. Is it possible to do only 1 breadth subject in year 1 (BCom)? I'm on the study planner trying to enter all my subjects but it forces me to take 2 breadth which would leave me without having done Finance 1. Someone also said that if I do accounting major pre-requisites then I don't need to complete Finance 1 to pursue a finance major? Thanks!

Yes, you don't need to do Finance 1 to do a finance major, you just need to do QM1(or calc 2/Lin alg etc...) and a 2nd semester 1st year Accounting subject. So just by following the Accounting major you give yourself the option of doing a Finance major as well.

You should go see the Commerce student centre if you don't want to do another breadth in 1st year, they'll be able to adjust your study planner/fix things up for you.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 28, 2015, 04:05:19 pm
Just to clarify: is the enrolment lapse date this friday on the 30th just for accepting your offer into your course, or does that include enrolling in all your subjects for first year as well?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 28, 2015, 05:26:40 pm
Just to clarify: is the enrolment lapse date this friday on the 30th just for accepting your offer into your course, or does that include enrolling in all your subjects for first year as well?

Enrolment's included.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: keep-it-classy on January 28, 2015, 07:08:11 pm
Hey Guys,
I am a first year student and just got a quick question about breadth. Is it possible to change your second semester breadth if for whatever reason you wanted to undertake a different breadth (as long as you do so before the self-enrollment date)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on January 28, 2015, 07:29:03 pm
Hey unimelb,

I want to do jap as a breadth, and was wondering which one I should choose, as there are so many varieties. I did 3/4 jap last year and scored a 36. What level am I roughly about, thanks.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 28, 2015, 07:49:31 pm
Hey Guys,
I am a first year student and just got a quick question about breadth. Is it possible to change your second semester breadth if for whatever reason you wanted to undertake a different breadth (as long as you do so before the self-enrollment date)?

As long as you make the change before the 'census date' then you are fine.

Hey unimelb,

I want to do jap as a breadth, and was wondering which one I should choose, as there are so many varieties. I did 3/4 jap last year and scored a 36. What level am I roughly about, thanks.

I think you sit a placement test and then they recommend you take a certain level. I'm not sure how to go about informing them of it though.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on January 28, 2015, 08:28:26 pm
As long as you make the change before the 'census date' then you are fine.

I think you sit a placement test and then they recommend you take a certain level. I'm not sure how to go about informing them of it though.

Thanks for that, and also I wanted to do philosophy as well, which one would be the best if I have no prior experience in the subject. I was thinking, Philosophy: The Big Questions
Philosophy: The great thinkers
or Philosophy, politics and economics.
Thanks for you help!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 28, 2015, 10:02:31 pm
Hi guys,

I've chosen 6 science subjects and 2 breadth subjects for first year BSc. I've added these subjects to my Study Plan but it still says I have "100 Credit Points remaining for selection" for the Science subjects and "25 Credit Points remaining for selection" under Breadth subjects. Do I have to keep adding subjects until it reaches the correct amount of Credit points?

Also, can I leave the "Science/Breadth subjects" and "Major" section blank when I'm enrolling? Or am I required to select my major now?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on January 28, 2015, 10:18:51 pm
Hi guys,

I've chosen 6 science subjects and 2 breadth subjects for first year BSc. I've added these subjects to my Study Plan but it still says I have "100 Credit Points remaining for selection" for the Science subjects and "25 Credit Points remaining for selection" under Breadth subjects. Do I have to keep adding subjects until it reaches the correct amount of Credit points?

Also, can I leave the "Science/Breadth subjects" and "Major" section blank when I'm enrolling? Or am I required to select my major now?

Cheers!

No, these will be subjects you will fill in for 2nd/3rd year.

Don't worry about your major for now - decide before start/during 3rd year.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 28, 2015, 10:22:43 pm
No, these will be subjects you will fill in for 2nd/3rd year.

Don't worry about your major for now - decide before start/during 3rd year.

Alright thank you :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Bionic_Arm26 on January 28, 2015, 10:38:41 pm
Hey Guys,
Is a first year student allowed to take second year subjects? I'm thinking of taking EDUC20069 Deafness and Communication for Semester 2 but am unsure as to whether I am certified to do so. It doesn't have any prerequisite subjects either. Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 28, 2015, 10:43:02 pm
I added all my subjects and clicked the enrolled button and then this comes up :
"Error

MAST10006 - Calculus 2 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
Spks Like 620121% is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
Spks Like 620120% is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
MAST10008 - Accelerated Mathematics 1 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
MAST10009 - Accelerated Mathematics 2 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
MAST10013 - UMEP Maths for High Achieving Students is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1."

What am I doing wrong? :/ I didn't choose an Accelerated Mathematics or UMEP..
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Sanguinne on January 28, 2015, 10:47:45 pm
When enrolling for breadths subjects for my first year, do I enter them under breadths level 1,2,3 or under breadths lvl 1,2 or breadths/selective subjects?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 28, 2015, 11:22:28 pm
I added all my subjects and clicked the enrolled button and then this comes up :
"Error

MAST10006 - Calculus 2 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
Spks Like 620121% is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
Spks Like 620120% is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
MAST10008 - Accelerated Mathematics 1 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
MAST10009 - Accelerated Mathematics 2 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1.
MAST10013 - UMEP Maths for High Achieving Students is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1."

What am I doing wrong? :/ I didn't choose an Accelerated Mathematics or UMEP..

Someone else had this issue. Enroll in Calc 1 first, then once you're enrolled in that try enrolling in Calc 2
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 28, 2015, 11:24:22 pm
Hey Guys,
Is a first year student allowed to take second year subjects? I'm thinking of taking EDUC20069 Deafness and Communication for Semester 2 but am unsure as to whether I am certified to do so. It doesn't have any prerequisite subjects either. Thanks!

You should be right to.

 
When enrolling for breadths subjects for my first year, do I enter them under breadths level 1,2,3 or under breadths lvl 1,2 or breadths/selective subjects?
I think breadth level 1,2 will be fine.
It doesn't matter too much but try and put them in the appropriate slots, might save a trip to your student centre.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on January 28, 2015, 11:30:23 pm
Someone else had this issue. Enroll in Calc 1 first, then once you're enrolled in that try enrolling in Calc 2

Oh okay awesome, it worked! Thank you!!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 29, 2015, 02:36:02 pm
Hi everyone,

We have some responses from the faculties of Business and Economics and Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences below. Thanks again for your patience as we work through these.

Commerce students: feel free to email your student centre directly on [email protected] if you have any questions. They are happy to help.

Biomedicine students: you can contact your student centre directly on [email protected].


Hey all, quite confused about my enrollment and the study planner (couldn't attend AAD)
anyways, In Bcomm, does it matter which semester the (3) core subjects are completed in? And also i got over 27 in spesh so i am required to do calc 2 and linear algebra (but apparently these are counted as breadths?) So does that mean i can complete only 1 more breadth?

Just wondering but do people just randomly enrol in either semester for a subject? or is there a strategic plan to this?


Hi Cheesecakelover,

Yes, it does matter which semester you do core subjects but it depends on the major you choose.  The core subjects (that all students must do) are ECON10003 Introductory Macroeconomics, ECON10004 Introductory Microeconomics, ECON10005 Quantitative Methods 1, MGMT20001 Organisational Behaviour and one level 2 quantitative subject (which can be chosen from ECON20003 Quantitative Methods 2, ECOM20001 Introductory Econometrics, MKTG20004 Market and Business Research or MGMT20005 Business Decision Analysis).  If you are doing an economics major you must do ECON10003 Intro Macro, ECON10004 Intro Micro in your first year.  If you are doing a management major you must do MGMT20001 Organisational Behaviour before you do your level 3 Management subjects.  These are just two examples so if you can let us  know (via email to [email protected]) which majors you want to do we can tell you exactly which subjects you have to do and when.

Yes, Calculus 2 and Linear Algebra are both non-commerce subjects so they are counted as breadth.  Yes, you can only do 1 more level 1 breadth if you do both Calculus 2 and Linear Algebra as the maximum allowed level 1 breadth in the BCOM is 3 subjects.

Again, it depends what major you are doing.  For majors such as Actuarial studies, subject availability is more limited than for Accounting majors.

Regardless of what major you are doing, it is safest to work out a general study plan so you have an idea of what you will be doing each semester throughout your degree.

All the best!



I can't seem to find 'intermediate finance' as a third year subject for 2015. Is it possible that it may become available again in 2017?

To complete an Honours in Finance, it is compulsory to complete either basic econometrics or econometrics in your final year of study. To do these subjects, apparently you would have to have completed quantitative methods 2 in your second year. If I'm not too interested in maths and would prefer to complete Business Decision Analysis in my second year as my compulsory subject instead of quantitative methods 2, does this mean I wouldn't be able to complete an honours? Can this be confirmed?

Hi Jawnle,

You must do Econometrics or Basic Econometrics to get into Honours in Finance. If you do not meet the pre-requisite for a subject then you cannot take it unless you get special permission from the subject coordinator.  Business Decision Analysis is more of a management statistics (for students who do not want to do heavily maths/stats based subjects) subject so if you are interested in maths and enjoy mathematics, Introductory Econometrics or Quantitative Methods 2 would actually interest you  more than Business Decision Analysis.

Alternatively you can also take the mathematics pathway instead of taking Quantitative Methods 1 and a level 2 commerce quantitative subject, you can take first year mathematics such as Calculus 2 and Linear Algebra and then take Probability and Statistics to  meet the quantitative requirements for the BCOM.  If you do Probability and Statistics you will still be able to take either Basic Econometrics or Econometrics. However please note that although you can use the maths subjects to meet the quantitative requirement for your BCOM degree, they will still be considered breadth subjects since they are non-commerce subjects.

Feel free to contact us via [email protected] if you have any further queries.

I was just wondering since 4 level one subjects are required to qualify for the Melbourne MD, is it possible for a student in the bachelor of commerce to be given an extra level one breadth subject so they can meet this requirement?

thanks

Hi Spectroscopy,

Unfortunately no.  You cannot do more than 3 level 1 breadth subjects under any circumstances.  If you need to complete 4 level 1 breadth you will have to complete one as a CAP subject, meaning that it will be an extra subject (i.e. 24 subjects in your BCOM + 1 subject done through CAP) and the CAP subject is not covered by CSP or HECS so even if you are a local student you will have to pay full fee for that single subject.  You will also need to make sure you plan out your study plan to take a summer subject later on so you can complete on time within 3 years (if you are a local student you can extend your degree by a semester if necessary).

Feel free to contact us via [email protected] if you have any further queries.


Hi there, I'm just looking for some help with my subjects for my BCom.

So I (at the moment) am interested in a double major in both Finance and Accounting (with the obvious potential to switch to an economics major in second year) which results in a pretty packed pathway in terms of subjects. I have no free slots in regards to choosing my own but more specifically for majoring in Accounting I have to complete Principles of Business Law as a "specified breadth". Does that mean it will contribute 12.5 points to my breadth credits and I'll have to complete another 3 during my degree to reach the quota? or it will count as a commerce subject?

I believe I have all the subjects I need;

Introductory microeconomics
Quantitative Methods 1
Accounting Reports and Analysis
Finance 1

Introductory macroeconomics
Introductory Financial accounting
Accounting processes and Analysis
Principles of Business Law

So to clarify this will leave me with a minimum of 3 other breadth subjects to be completed in second and third year?

So someone raised this earlier but I just want to clarify. Is it possible to do only 1 breadth subject in year 1 (BCom)? I'm on the study planner trying to enter all my subjects but it forces me to take 2 breadth which would leave me without having done Finance 1. Someone also said that if I do accounting major pre-requisites then I don't need to complete Finance 1 to pursue a finance major? Thanks!

Hi there,

Yes, Principles of Business Law is a breadth subject so it will contribute to your breadth points.  You need to do a minimum of at least 4 breadth subjects in total (of which only 3 or less can be level 1) for your entire degree.  For Accounting, if you want to get accreditation (meaning you become a professional accountant registered with an account body upon graduation) you will have to complete Principles of Business Law, Corporate Law and Taxation Law I before you complete your degree.

Your current subjects look fine and you can choose what majors you want after first year following what you have listed. 

Yes, you only have one breadth listed (Principles of Business Law) so you will still need to do 3 more breadth subjects over your 2nd and 3rd years.

You can just do 1 level 1 breadth in your first year.  You just need to make sure you do at least 4 breadth subjects for your entire degree (so before you graduate). Your study plan allows you to add all of the subjects for your entire degree.  Please note that levels do not mean the year you have to take the subject.  The level of a subject is an indication of its difficulty so if you are in second year or even third year you can still do level 1 or 2 subjects if you have enough room on your study plan.

If you are doing Quantitative Methods 1 and Introductory Financial Accounting then you do not have to take Finance 1.  The pre-requisite for Business Finance is either Finance 1 or QM1+Intro Fi Acc.  However if you want to take Finance 1 as well as QM1 and Intro Fi Acc this is ok as well.

I hope that helps! Feel free to contact us via [email protected] if you have any further queries.

hello,
I was wondering if I'm a first yr student this yr does that mean i can only take breadths that are level 1, and then in second yr take breadths level 2 and then third yr level 3 and if i do an honours do i need to take breadths? and if so, they have to be level 4? is that how it works?

and if there is anyone doing biomed, for the breadths it says ' you must complete at least 4 breadths subjects, plus another two that are breadths/biomed/sceince subjects? does that mean i can take a science subject that normally bachelor of science kids would do as my breath?

a little confused...

thank you

Hi bts,

We recommend taking two Level 1 breadth subjects in first year, as the level roughly indicates difficulty and we do not recommend taking higher than this level at the first year of University. Biomedicine students must take four Breadth subjects, two Science-Elective subjects (“Selectives”) and then either two Selectives OR Breadth subjects. Biomedicine students must take Selective subjects to be taken at year Level 2 to enable certain majors (at year level 3).

Feel free to email us on  [email protected] and we can answer any further questions.

All the best.



Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on January 29, 2015, 02:45:32 pm
I just read on another post that if you fail a subject in one year, and then if you repeat it again and get a GPA of 7, both your results (fail and the GPA of 7) will count for your post grad med degree. I did a UMEP subject last year, and failed semester two. This year I'm going to be doing the subject again in semester two, and suppose if I get GPA 7 in that subject this year, would my fail count from last year? How would that be fair?

Hi Gutthi,

If you fail a subject in the Extension Program you will not experience any academic disadvantage when subsequently applying to study at the University of Melbourne, or at any other tertiary institution. I hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 29, 2015, 03:02:03 pm
So how do I know if I have completed my course and subject enrolment? I just received an email telling me that I didn't, but I've already enrolled in all 8 subjects for first year and on the student portal it says my course status is 'admitted'  ???
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: auds on January 29, 2015, 04:48:54 pm
So how do I know if I have completed my course and subject enrolment? I just received an email telling me that I didn't, but I've already enrolled in all 8 subjects for first year and on the student portal it says my course status is 'admitted'  ???
This happened to me too!
 
Edit: Called them up, apparently it's a glitch.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: BigWhale112 on January 29, 2015, 07:15:20 pm
hello!
i wanted to ask if i plan on majoring in accounting and finance + accounting accreditation, do i have to complete "Principles of Business Law" as a breadth subject in my first year?

because at the moment i plan on doing chinese 1 & 2 in both semester 1 & 2 respectively but i saw in a study plan that they had "Principles of Business Law" down as one of their breadth subjects

and i thought "errrrr....." is this breadth subject required for a double major in accounting+finance and accounting accreditation (cuz it sounds commerce-y related haha and possibly related to "Corporate Law" for second year)

thank you in advance :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on January 29, 2015, 07:40:45 pm
After the Enrolment Lapse date, are we still able to enroll in subjects or is that closed? Also are we able to change semester 2 subjects at the start of semester 2 if we decide we don't like the subject? Would we still need to pay for the subject we change to and the subject we changed from?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 29, 2015, 08:29:00 pm
hello!
i wanted to ask if i plan on majoring in accounting and finance + accounting accreditation, do i have to complete "Principles of Business Law" as a breadth subject in my first year?

Yes, Principles of Business Law is a breadth subject so it will contribute to your breadth points.  You need to do a minimum of at least 4 breadth subjects in total (of which only 3 or less can be level 1) for your entire degree.  For Accounting, if you want to get accreditation (meaning you become a professional accountant registered with an account body upon graduation) you will have to complete Principles of Business Law, Corporate Law and Taxation Law I before you complete your degree.

It doesn't have to be in your first year but it needs to be done at some point.


After the Enrolment Lapse date, are we still able to enroll in subjects or is that closed? Also are we able to change semester 2 subjects at the start of semester 2 if we decide we don't like the subject? Would we still need to pay for the subject we change to and the subject we changed from?

You'll be able to swap subjects around up until the census date, which varies for each subject but the most common one is the 30th of March. Keep in mind this might mean you have to catch up, so try and decide early.

Each semester has its own census date, so you can change your semester 2 subjects up until it occurs. You only become liable for the subject fees if you are still taking it when the census date passes.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Bionic_Arm26 on January 29, 2015, 09:20:13 pm
Hey guys,
So if I enrolled into a 2nd level breadth subject though I entered it in the "Breadth Subject Years 1, 2 & 3", will I still be able to enroll in a Level  1 subject come second year?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 29, 2015, 09:31:57 pm
Hey guys,
So if I enrolled into a 2nd level breadth subject though I entered it in the "Breadth Subject Years 1, 2 & 3", will I still be able to enroll in a Level  1 subject come second year?

Yes.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 29, 2015, 10:00:06 pm
So you are only able to select your first year subjects right now yeah?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 29, 2015, 10:08:22 pm
So you are only able to select your first year subjects right now yeah?

You can only enroll in subjects for 2015, not necessarily first year subjects.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 29, 2015, 10:15:41 pm
tysm :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Bionic_Arm26 on January 29, 2015, 10:33:03 pm
Yes.
cheers!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on January 29, 2015, 11:26:58 pm
Ok, so I have enrolled into my subjects, and was wondering when registrations open. Also what about the fees and everything? Is there anything else that needs to be done before 30-1-15 (tomorrow) ?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on January 30, 2015, 04:40:21 pm
Ok, so I have enrolled into my subjects, and was wondering when registrations open. Also what about the fees and everything? Is there anything else that needs to be done before 30-1-15 (tomorrow) ?

Fees-I asked them and they said we'll get an email mid-Feb or earlier not sure regarding what fees to pay and it has to be before the census date so 31st march for Sem 1 subjects. It will contain instructions on how to pay as well as a variety of options.

You just need to enrol today.

From the notice on my.unimelb

Opening Times for Class Registration
Posted by University Services on Thursday 29 January 2015

Class registration for undergraduate Semester 1 and Year Long subjects will open on Monday 2 February.

• 8am: First year subjects (codes xxxx10000 —19999).
• 2pm: Second/third year subjects (codes xxxx20000 — 39999).

Staggering the opening times by year level will improve class registration by reducing traffic and maximising system performance.

4 Tips to optimise your class registration experience:
1. Limit your access to one session. Attempting to simultaneously log in with multiple devices and browsers will slow down system access for you and others.
2. Avoid refreshing the page. Refreshing will cause further delays, as you will be taken to the back of the processing queue.
3. Only reload the page by hitting the ‘back’ button if you receive an error message, such as ‘page cannot be displayed’ or ‘application error’.
4. If you see a blank page when attempting to log in, please continue to wait as this means you’re in the queue.

Getting help:
You can find information on how to plan, register, and change classes, making changes to your timetable on the Enrolment website (link 1).

13 MELB will be extending chat and phone opening hours on Monday 2 February to provide registration support. These services will be available from 8.00am to 7.00pm.

13 MELB will also be answering queries and providing updates on Facebook (link 2) and Twitter (link 3) between 8.00am and 5.00pm on Monday 2 February.

Links
http://enrolment.unimelb.edu.au/home
https://www.facebook.com/13melb
https://twitter.com/13MELB
Contact: 13 MELB
Position: Student Contact Centre
Phone number: 13 6352
Email address: [email protected]
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on January 30, 2015, 05:29:43 pm
Hi guys,

I was hoping someone could help me with regards to applying for a Community Access Program unit. I'm trying to get into the Bachelor of Commerce, so I need to do complete a unit to satisfy the mathematics pre-requisite.

I was told the unit was called 'Introduction to Mathematics' but for some reason I cannot seem to find it on the Online Application System whenever I search for it.
Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on January 30, 2015, 05:31:09 pm
I think I have two different email accounts, and I don't think that's right...?

When I log onto the Student Portal and click on 'New Emails', the account it takes me to is different to the account that is listed under 'Contact' in eStudent. I can't log onto the latter though. Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on January 30, 2015, 05:33:04 pm
Hi guys,

I was hoping someone could help me with regards to applying for a Community Access Program unit. I'm trying to get into the Bachelor of Commerce, so I need to do complete a unit to satisfy the mathematics pre-requisite.

I was told the unit was called 'Introduction to Mathematics' but for some reason I cannot seem to find it on the Online Application System whenever I search for it.
Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 30, 2015, 05:34:28 pm
I think I have two different email accounts, and I don't think that's right...?

When I log onto the Student Portal and click on 'New Emails', the account it takes me to is different to the account that is listed under 'Contact' in eStudent. I can't log onto the latter though. Any thoughts on this?

They both point to the same account. One will be your username and the other is based around initial and last name I believe. It's set up this way in case you don't want to reveal your university username and is sometimes also easier to remember or tell someone. In short, perfectly normal.


I was hoping someone could help me with regards to applying for a Community Access Program unit. I'm trying to get into the Bachelor of Commerce, so I need to do complete a unit to satisfy the mathematics pre-requisite.

I was told the unit was called 'Introduction to Mathematics' but for some reason I cannot seem to find it on the Online Application System whenever I search for it.
Try searching for it by its code (MAST10012) otherwise can you put up a photo of which page you are trying to find it from?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on January 30, 2015, 06:31:11 pm
Here is where I am looking for the unit.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Amity on January 30, 2015, 06:48:32 pm
You should probably try searching without the brackets around the course code. If that doesn't work, maybe you could try filling in some of the other fields.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 31, 2015, 01:16:56 pm
Is it too late to withdraw from an enrolled subject? (Sem 2 breadth)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 31, 2015, 01:19:42 pm
Is it too late to withdraw from an enrolled subject? (Sem 2 breadth)

You have until a few weeks into sem 2 to change that subject, so no, it's not too late.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on January 31, 2015, 01:24:54 pm
You have until a few weeks into sem 2 to change a subject, so no, it's not too late.
Oh so I can't change it now? Also, do I just register for sem 1 classes on monday or do I register for sem 2 aswell?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 31, 2015, 01:30:51 pm
Oh so I can't change it now? Also, do I just register for sem 1 classes on monday or do I register for sem 2 aswell?

You can change it now as notveryasian said. You register only for semester 1.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: myanacondadont on January 31, 2015, 01:42:39 pm
When planning our class registration do we look at the timetables in the handbook and sort of just piece together what we want? Then hope to god we can get those times when it comes to monday?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 31, 2015, 01:55:12 pm
When planning our class registration do we look at the timetables in the handbook and sort of just piece together what we want? Then hope to god we can get those times when it comes to monday?

Yes. It's not necessary to plan as timetabling will show every available option, but if you want to get a better timetable then yeah.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Eiffel on January 31, 2015, 02:20:15 pm
Is there any subject reviews on UMEP Mathematics? or if anyone can tell me how much harder it is then specialist. So far specialist is "alright" for me, not a breeze as you would expect but not hard, roughly 6/10 in difficulty with some questions requiring more thought.

(i have worked ahead so have been learning concepts on my own without AGM, so therefore it is of moderate difficulty at the moment)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 31, 2015, 02:35:30 pm
Is there any subject reviews on UMEP Mathematics? or if anyone can tell me how much harder it is then specialist. So far specialist is "alright" for me, not a breeze as you would expect but not hard, roughly 6/10 in difficulty with some questions requiring more thought.

(i have worked ahead so have been learning concepts on my own without AGM, so therefore it is of moderate difficulty at the moment)

UMEP Mathematics Requirements? brightsky's post in this thread may help answer your question on difficulty.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on January 31, 2015, 02:42:45 pm
can i still pick my semester 2 subjects or is it too late?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on January 31, 2015, 02:45:51 pm
can i still pick my semester 2 subjects or is it too late?

Yes you can, it is not too late.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on February 01, 2015, 12:27:02 pm
You should probably try searching without the brackets around the course code. If that doesn't work, maybe you could try filling in some of the other fields.

Tried that as well. Nothing seems to be working.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Ytrofusil on February 01, 2015, 01:44:16 pm
So I recently did the placement test for Japanese and got put in Japanese 5. However, it said that I will be enrolled in JAPN10003. As I do not have any level 1 breadths remaining, is it possible to enroll in the level 2 of the same paper (JAPN20013) straight from doing the placement test?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 01, 2015, 02:00:37 pm
Is it still possible to apply for SA-HELP? Or is it too late?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 01, 2015, 02:07:09 pm
Is it still possible to apply for SA-HELP? Or is it too late?

You can still apply, up until the census date I believe.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 01, 2015, 07:36:14 pm
I didn't do Physics 3/4, in Highschool, but want to enroll In physics 1 at uniMelb. I know its a prerequisite but, can I negotiate to get in? I did methods, spesh and chem, so I think I would pick up on the concepts pretty quickly. I only want to do Physics because I will need it for the Gamsat in the future.

These are the subjects I am considering enrolling.

chem1, chem2, bio 10004, bio 10005, physics 1 and calculus 2

Any suggestions for breath subjects that would complement the above, and is the above a good foundation to prepare for the gamsat? Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 01, 2015, 08:06:31 pm
I didn't do Physics 3/4, in Highschool, but want to enroll In physics 1 at uniMelb. I know its a prerequisite but, can I negotiate to get in? I did methods, spesh and chem, so I think I would pick up on the concepts pretty quickly. I only want to do Physics because I will need it for the Gamsat in the future.

Try contacting Dr Roger Rassool (rogerpr at unimelb dot edu dot au) and explain your circumstances. It's possible for an exemption to be made.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 01, 2015, 08:21:23 pm
I didn't do Physics 3/4, in Highschool, but want to enroll In physics 1 at uniMelb. I know its a prerequisite but, can I negotiate to get in? I did methods, spesh and chem, so I think I would pick up on the concepts pretty quickly. I only want to do Physics because I will need it for the Gamsat in the future.

These are the subjects I am considering enrolling.

chem1, chem2, bio 10004, bio 10005, physics 1 and calculus 2

Any suggestions for breath subjects that would complement the above, and is the above a good foundation to prepare for the gamsat? Thanks

Physics 1 is beyond what you need for GAMSAT. The physics part of GAMSAT is ony testing year 12 VCE physics. Physics fundamentals is all the year 12 concepts so doing that should suffice. I'm personally doing fundamentals just for the GAMSAT considering I did so bad in VCE physics
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 01, 2015, 08:35:38 pm
Try contacting Dr Roger Rassool (rogerpr at unimelb dot edu dot au) and explain your circumstances. It's possible for an exemption to be made.

Thank you, will do! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 01, 2015, 08:40:19 pm
Physics 1 is beyond what you need for GAMSAT. The physics part of GAMSAT is ony testing year 12 VCE physics. Physics fundamentals is all the year 12 concepts so doing that should suffice. I'm personally doing fundamentals just for the GAMSAT considering I did so bad in VCE physics

yea I dont want to do fundamentals, as I have some experience in Physics, as I did 1/2 and spesh, and fundamentals assumes you have no knowledge in the subject. So it would be best if I did Physics 1 in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on February 01, 2015, 08:58:33 pm
For workshops, if it says weeks 11,17,21, does that mean we only attend that class on those weeks only?? So only three workshops per semester?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 01, 2015, 08:59:17 pm
For workshops, if it says weeks 11,17,21, does that mean we only attend that class on those weeks only?? So only three workshops per semester?

I would say so, but it should be available on your LMS for confirmation.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: caution on February 01, 2015, 09:55:54 pm
Heyy melb uni,
(bachelor of biomed) for 2015 in chemistry for bio medicine, do we have 6 practicals in total throughout the semester? but according to the handbook, it says we have one every week? '1 x three hour lab/workshop per week'

thank you
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on February 01, 2015, 11:08:54 pm
hey guys,I have chosen MUSI10148 (African Drum And Dance) and FINA10036 (The Body: Facts and Fictions) for Semester 1 Breadth, but could you please tell me how I can view their timetables and class times? I am currently not being able to do so. Thankyou
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on February 01, 2015, 11:24:28 pm
hey guys,I have chosen MUSI10148 (African Drum And Dance) and FINA10036 (The Body: Facts and Fictions) for Semester 1 Breadth, but could you please tell me how I can view their timetables and class times? I am currently not being able to do so. Thankyou

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/MUSI10148

At the bottom of 'Dates & Locations' you can view the timetable there. Look for FINA10036 on the Handbook and do the same to view its timetable :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on February 01, 2015, 11:45:54 pm
How will I be able to enroll in these subjects tomorrow?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 01, 2015, 11:51:11 pm
How will I be able to enroll in these subjects tomorrow?

Log onto myunimelb tomorrow at 8am and after a lengthy wait you will be redirected to your student timetable where you'll be able to click on the times you want for the tutorials/lectures/pracs/other for each subject.

Edit: found this http://enrolment.unimelb.edu.au/classes/registering-for-classes
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on February 01, 2015, 11:54:28 pm
Thankyou guys :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 01, 2015, 11:56:52 pm
http://enrolment.unimelb.edu.au/classes/registering-for-classes

Can anyone else see the first 4 images? I've tried different laptops and still can't see them
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on February 02, 2015, 12:27:13 am
http://enrolment.unimelb.edu.au/classes/registering-for-classes

Can anyone else see the first 4 images? I've tried different laptops and still can't see them

It's not just you; the first 4 pics are broken for me too, but the two below it work just fine :/
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 02, 2015, 12:33:22 am
Should we wake up at 8 am to register for classes, or can we sleep in until 12 and register then? I'm just worried that the availabilities and times may be taken if I do sleep in.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 02, 2015, 12:37:04 am
Should we wake up at 8 am to register for classes, or can we sleep in until 12 and register then? I'm just worried that the availabilities and times may be taken if I do sleep in.

I definitely advise to register into your classes as soon as possible....if people are rational the best tutorial slots will be taken by the time you log on at 12.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 02, 2015, 02:29:38 am
I definitely advise to register into your classes as soon as possible....if people are rational the best tutorial slots will be taken by the time you log on at 12.

oh yea, what are some good tut time ranges do u reckon? I have no clue when to do them...
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on February 02, 2015, 02:35:43 am
Also we only register for Semester 1 yeah?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 02, 2015, 03:39:24 am
Also we only register for Semester 1 yeah?

that is correct
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on February 02, 2015, 03:49:52 am
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: tnicole on February 02, 2015, 10:19:21 am
Hi I'm an international student and I'm trying to complete my enrolment online. I can't see my study plan and I've emailed 13melb to try and get it expanded. They haven't responded yet and so I haven't been able to enrol and so can't register for classes today.

Is class registration today for international students too? I've been trying to get through to 13melb by phone but the line is always engaged... I'm really confused before previously I was told that I had to arrive in Melbourne before I could enrol in subjects - but does that mean international students only register for classes after Academic Advice Day 2???
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Starlight on February 02, 2015, 10:49:28 am
Hi I'm an international student and I'm trying to complete my enrolment online. I can't see my study plan and I've emailed 13melb to try and get it expanded. They haven't responded yet and so I haven't been able to enrol and so can't register for classes today.

Is class registration today for international students too? I've been trying to get through to 13melb by phone but the line is always engaged... I'm really confused before previously I was told that I had to arrive in Melbourne before I could enrol in subjects - but does that mean international students only register for classes after Academic Advice Day 2???

Keep trying to ring 13melb or if you live close to the uni, go in to your relevant student center because you should be able to register for your classes.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Eiffel on February 02, 2015, 07:03:52 pm
Hi, im doing UMEP and was wondering when i am available to collect my card?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on February 03, 2015, 03:09:32 pm
Anyone else have troubling with the Single Sign-On page?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Spxtcs on February 03, 2015, 03:11:12 pm
Anyone else have troubling with the Single Sign-On page?

yeah can't sign in to the portal. may be a problem with the uni servers or something.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on February 03, 2015, 03:13:05 pm
Anyone else have troubling with the Single Sign-On page?

Just spoke to IT and they said the portal is down atm
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on February 03, 2015, 03:14:30 pm
Thanks.

Also, does anyone know how to figure out the library bar code? having a hard time trying to track it down
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 03, 2015, 03:21:01 pm
Thanks.

Also, does anyone know how to figure out the library bar code? having a hard time trying to track it down

I know it's on your student card but I'm not sure where else you can find it.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 03, 2015, 03:25:15 pm
I know it's on your student card but I'm not sure where else you can find it.

That's the only place you can really get it, other than by contacting 13MELB, library desk or Student IT. I don't think it's in the borrowing portal. 13MELB definitely will, Student IT and library desk may depending on who serves you and what proof of identity you have.

You only receive your barcode number when you've been issued a student card.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on February 03, 2015, 03:29:55 pm
Thanks.

Also, does anyone know how to figure out the library bar code? having a hard time trying to track it down

I enquired about this at IT and they said only 13 MELB can give it to you
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 04, 2015, 01:33:07 pm
Hi
One of my friends is doing a Bachelor of Business (Banking & Finance) / Bachelor of Business (Accounting) at Monash University. He wants to transfer into Melbourne commerce after the first year and wanted to know if these subjects would be cross credited. The Credit calculator lists these subjects but does not show that they are creditable for the Bachelor of Commerce. The subjects are:
Semester 1 2015:
ACF1000: Principles of accounting and finance
BTF1010: Commercial law
ECF1100: Microeconomics
ETX1100: Business statistics
Semester 2 2015   
ACF1121: Introduction to financial accounting
BFF1300: Money and capital markets
MGF1010: Introduction to management
MKF1120: Marketing theory and practice
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on February 04, 2015, 02:31:44 pm
Hi, im doing UMEP and was wondering when i am available to collect my card?

Hi Eiffel,

If you email the Extension Program directly on [email protected] they can answer this and any other queries you have :)

Hope you enjoy the program!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on February 04, 2015, 02:34:12 pm
Hi I'm an international student and I'm trying to complete my enrolment online. I can't see my study plan and I've emailed 13melb to try and get it expanded. They haven't responded yet and so I haven't been able to enrol and so can't register for classes today.

Is class registration today for international students too? I've been trying to get through to 13melb by phone but the line is always engaged... I'm really confused before previously I was told that I had to arrive in Melbourne before I could enrol in subjects - but does that mean international students only register for classes after Academic Advice Day 2???

Hi tnicole,

Congratulations on your offer to study with us :)

It is absolutely fine for you to complete your class registration after attending Academic Advice Day 2. I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on February 04, 2015, 04:48:40 pm
Hi
One of my friends is doing a Bachelor of Business (Banking & Finance) / Bachelor of Business (Accounting) at Monash University. He wants to transfer into Melbourne commerce after the first year and wanted to know if these subjects would be cross credited. The Credit calculator lists these subjects but does not show that they are creditable for the Bachelor of Commerce. The subjects are:
Semester 1 2015:
ACF1000: Principles of accounting and finance
BTF1010: Commercial law
ECF1100: Microeconomics
ETX1100: Business statistics
Semester 2 2015   
ACF1121: Introduction to financial accounting
BFF1300: Money and capital markets
MGF1010: Introduction to management
MKF1120: Marketing theory and practice

Hi AM,

We will send you a PM :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Teba on February 10, 2015, 06:36:34 pm
Hey Melb Uni,
I was just wondering what would i be able to work as after i finish post graduate medicine course (keep in mind i would've already finished bio med)? Also, what additional courses do i need to take to become a surgeon or a general practitioner????
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 10, 2015, 06:41:22 pm
Hey Melb Uni,
I was just wondering what would i be able to work as after i finish post graduate medicine course (keep in mind i would've already finished bio med)? Also, what additional courses do i need to take to become a surgeon or a general practitioner????
After you finish a postgraduate medicine course :
You will have to do an internship in order to get full registratin with the medical board. (1 year)
You then spend a certain amount of years as a resident at a hospital, until you choose what area you want to specialise in (you can spend the rest of your life as a resident if you want)
You then go through a specialist training program which allows you to specialise in a particular area of medicine, e.g. surgery, general practice which can take anywhere between 3-6 years depending on the field.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unimelb on February 11, 2015, 11:54:43 am
Hey Melb Uni,
I was just wondering what would i be able to work as after i finish post graduate medicine course (keep in mind i would've already finished bio med)? Also, what additional courses do i need to take to become a surgeon or a general practitioner????

Hi Teba,

There is a flyer here with plenty of information about this. Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 11, 2015, 02:38:36 pm
Hi I was interested in getting into nutritionist and pharmacist? what is the minimum atar I need to get for the courses? Also is there a double degree that is offer and closely related to both careers?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 11, 2015, 04:24:53 pm
Hi I was interested in getting into nutritionist and pharmacist? what is the minimum atar I need to get for the courses? Also is there a double degree that is offer and closely related to both careers?

To get into nutritionist and pharmacist, you would have to get into Bachelor of Science, which has a minimum of 85 ATAR, then specialise postgrad. Unfortunately UoM does not offer double degrees.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on February 11, 2015, 05:19:01 pm
Can we still change subjects for forst year, or is it too late?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cameronp on February 11, 2015, 05:29:13 pm
Hi I was interested in getting into nutritionist and pharmacist? what is the minimum atar I need to get for the courses? Also is there a double degree that is offer and closely related to both careers?
There are no particular qualifications or accreditation requirements in order to call yourself a "nutritionist" in Australia. If you want to become a dietitian, you need to do a science degree followed by a postgraduate course (usually a Masters degree) accredited by the Dietitians Association of Australia. That's the qualification that you need to do work involving nutrition in the medical sector. (My sister is a dietitian working in a hospital, apparently the difference between dietitian and nutritionist is a big deal!)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 11, 2015, 06:12:22 pm
Can we still change subjects for forst year, or is it too late?

You can still change subjects for both semesters up until the census date. You can also change your semester 2 subjects before semester 2 starts up until the census date. As for what date, I'm not sure
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 11, 2015, 06:17:03 pm
There are no particular qualifications or accreditation requirements in order to call yourself a "nutritionist" in Australia. If you want to become a dietitian, you need to do a science degree followed by a postgraduate course (usually a Masters degree) accredited by the Dietitians Association of Australia. That's the qualification that you need to do work involving nutrition in the medical sector. (My sister is a dietitian working in a hospital, apparently the difference between dietitian and nutritionist is a big deal!)

I always thought they were the same thing to be honest but then again I've never really thought through the differences. Time to get into research mode!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: infecthead on February 12, 2015, 04:24:39 pm
So the lectures for COMP10001 have been moved around (there's only one option for each lecture) and now lecture 2 is on a wednesday whilst lecture 1 is on a thursday. They aren't a streamed class, but is this something that's ok?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 12, 2015, 04:40:58 pm
So the lectures for COMP10001 have been moved around (there's only one option for each lecture) and now lecture 2 is on a wednesday whilst lecture 1 is on a thursday. They aren't a streamed class, but is this something that's ok?

That sounds pretty weird. At this point I wouldn't worry about it given each lecture only runs once, so (Is it Tim again?) will simply present what he needs to when appropriate.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 13, 2015, 04:36:46 pm
I was wondering what winter recess was. Is that our semester break?
Also does anyone know how many days there are in semester one including the examination days?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 13, 2015, 04:51:31 pm
I was wondering what winter recess was. Is that our semester break?
Also does anyone know how many days there are in semester one including the examination days?

Kind of. http://i.imgur.com/lcDdG1N.png Winter recess starts when Semester 1 teaching finishes and ends when Semester 2 teaching starts. However throughout this time you'll have 1 week of SWOTVAC (exam prep) and then a three week period in which your exams are held. The minimum break people normally get is 4 weeks, with the maximum normally around 6-7 for those who finish exams in the first week, or simply don't have any.

By days do you mean the entirety of the period? Or excluding public holidays, days off etc.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 13, 2015, 07:47:48 pm
How do I register for a student I.D card? Forgot the process. Any links?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 13, 2015, 07:58:04 pm
How do I register for a student I.D card? Forgot the process. Any links?
Log into this with your melbourne uni username and password and upload a photo as per the specifications.
Then go to G10 (Moot court) on campus before 27 February to collect it or to the Student centre after 2 march.
If you go to G10 they can also take a photo for you there if you don't want the photo you uploaded.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 13, 2015, 08:32:34 pm
Log into this with your melbourne uni username and password and upload a photo as per the specifications.
Then go to G10 (Moot court) on campus before 27 February to collect it or to the Student centre after 2 march.
If you go to G10 they can also take a photo for you there if you don't want the photo you uploaded.

Thanks for that! I don't think you attached the link properly, can you do it again? :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 13, 2015, 08:33:57 pm
Thanks for that! I don't think you attached the link properly, can you do it again? :)
Ah Sorry
https://www.idmobile.com.au/CaptureME?siteCode=103
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on February 13, 2015, 09:29:40 pm
does anyone know if the breadth track 'economics and finance' approve accreditation?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 13, 2015, 09:36:46 pm
does anyone know if the breadth track 'economics and finance' approve accreditation?

You're going to have to be more specific...accredited for which associations/organisations?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on February 13, 2015, 09:40:34 pm
cfa
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: yazza on February 13, 2015, 09:45:06 pm
isnt acc cpa?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 13, 2015, 09:54:27 pm
isnt acc cpa?

Oops got CPA and CFA mixed up. In that case yeah the breadth track will satisfy prerequisites for accreditation with CFA.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: BLACKCATT on February 14, 2015, 01:53:56 am
When are we going to be assigned a host group for orientation?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 14, 2015, 10:28:17 am
Kind of. http://i.imgur.com/lcDdG1N.png Winter recess starts when Semester 1 teaching finishes and ends when Semester 2 teaching starts. However throughout this time you'll have 1 week of SWOTVAC (exam prep) and then a three week period in which your exams are held. The minimum break people normally get is 4 weeks, with the maximum normally around 6-7 for those who finish exams in the first week, or simply don't have any.

By days do you mean the entirety of the period? Or excluding public holidays, days off etc.

Ah thank you very much for clearing that up.
Entirety of the period including our days off
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 14, 2015, 10:30:23 am
Oops got CPA and CFA mixed up. In that case yeah the breadth track will satisfy prerequisites for accreditation with CFA.

Just wondering what CPA and CFA meant?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 14, 2015, 12:34:19 pm
Just wondering what CPA and CFA meant?

CPA Australia(Chartered Public Accountants) is one of the 3 major accounting bodies in Australia. CFA Institute is a global association for investments. You can probably find more info about a from a Google search.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: petey on February 14, 2015, 08:23:02 pm
are we allowed to do level 1 breadth subjects in 2nd year or even level 1-2 breadths in 3rd year?

as well as that, is it possible to undertake an external language as a breadth outside of unimelb while undertaking bachelor of biomedicine? i am currently in 1st yr and hope to do vietnamese which is offered at victoria university (footscray park campus).

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 14, 2015, 08:30:14 pm
are we allowed to do level 1 breadth subjects in 2nd year or even level 1-2 breadths in 3rd year?

as well as that, is it possible to undertake an external language as a breadth outside of unimelb while undertaking bachelor of biomedicine? i am currently in 1st yr and hope to do vietnamese which is offered at victoria university (footscray park campus).

You are allowed to do a maximum of 3 level 1 breadths throughout your degree, doesn't matter which year. You are allowed to do any level in 3rd year provided you don't exceed the 3 level 1 limit.

As for the language, I'm not sure but would also be interested in seeing an answer. However I must ask, would you have time to go to vietnamese classes?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 14, 2015, 09:24:22 pm
When's O week and is it compulsory? Or do we only need to go to orientation day on the 23rd? Really confused...
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: QFS on February 14, 2015, 09:30:58 pm
When's O week and is it compulsory? Or do we only need to go to orientation day on the 23rd? Really confused...

The week before uni starts (not sure on the dates). It isn't compulsory but a good chance to make some new friends and familiarise yourself around campus.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 14, 2015, 09:35:14 pm
When's O week and is it compulsory? Or do we only need to go to orientation day on the 23rd? Really confused...

O-week starts on the 24th of Feb and no it's not compulsory but can be useful as there will be hosts taking you around campus. Also it is the day where you can meet people and get to know the uni more. There will be BBQ's, freebies and clubs would be advertising themselves. Plus there will be a lot of parties so you can meet people there if you don't feel like going to O-week. I'll be at as many events as possible since I'm a lone wolf in my course.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 14, 2015, 09:42:52 pm
O-week starts on the 24th of Feb and no it's not compulsory but can be useful as there will be hosts taking you around campus. Also it is the day where you can meet people and get to know the uni more. There will be BBQ's, freebies and clubs would be advertising themselves. Plus there will be a lot of parties so you can meet people there if you don't feel like going to O-week. I'll be at as many events as possible since I'm a lone wolf in my course.

And these bbq, freebies, clubs and parties go on for the whole week? (24th-27th) ?
What happens on the 23rd then?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 14, 2015, 10:53:51 pm
And these bbq, freebies, clubs and parties go on for the whole week? (24th-27th) ?
What happens on the 23rd then?

Here is the itinerary: https://orientation.unimelb.edu.au/plan/3-orientation-activities

I haven't heard anything about the 23rd. I thought we started on the 24th. I know other uni's start their 0-week on the 23rd
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on February 14, 2015, 10:58:28 pm
Don't forget college students making idiots of themselves.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 15, 2015, 01:04:36 am
Plus there will be a lot of parties so you can meet people there if you don't feel like going to O-week.

There's parties during Oweek? :o Wish I knew about these when I was a first year.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 15, 2015, 01:39:39 am
There's parties during Oweek? :o Wish I knew about these when I was a first year.

Some clubs host them. I guess you could try pass as a first year haha
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 15, 2015, 09:40:40 am
Here is the itinerary: https://orientation.unimelb.edu.au/plan/3-orientation-activities

I haven't heard anything about the 23rd. I thought we started on the 24th. I know other uni's start their 0-week on the 23rd
Do you know whether we'll be asked to show student i.d? I want to bring someone but they don't go to the uni
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: QFS on February 15, 2015, 10:43:01 am
Do you know whether we'll be asked to show student i.d? I want to bring someone but they don't go to the uni

No it's open to anyone really
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ~V on February 15, 2015, 10:48:55 am
Do you know whether we'll be asked to show student i.d? I want to bring someone but they don't go to the uni
No it's open to anyone really
Pretty much, you really only need to show IDs when you need to be 18+ to get into a club/venue.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on February 15, 2015, 01:45:44 pm
I heard a first year student applied for this public transport fee assistance where the amount she spent that year on pbt is repaid to her by the gov or something. Is this true...?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: BLACKCATT on February 15, 2015, 03:49:58 pm
When are we going to be assigned a host group for orientation?

bump
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zigi on February 16, 2015, 03:19:54 pm
Hey guys,
What's needed for a mid year transfer to do BSc at UoM and what are the chances of getting accepted with a high ATAR above 98?
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: hobbitle on February 16, 2015, 03:29:56 pm

Hey guys,
What's needed for a mid year transfer to do BSc at UoM and what are the chances of getting accepted with a high ATAR above 98?
Thanks

If you do a semester of another course your ATAR becomes less relevant. You need to fulfil BSc requirements (ie 25+ in one science and Maths Methods, or Spec and Methods - or whatever, look it up on the website). If you have already completed a semester of tertiary studies you should preferably have maintained good grades and not failed anything.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 16, 2015, 05:17:00 pm
Hey guys,
What's needed for a mid year transfer to do BSc at UoM and what are the chances of getting accepted with a high ATAR above 98?
Thanks

Your ATAR and WAM matter equally. As many have said you need to have a WAM of at least 85+ to have a chance. YOur ATAR seems high enough to be competitive. Just work hard to get your WAM up. Good luck!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on February 16, 2015, 06:21:50 pm
Your ATAR and WAM matter equally. As many have said you need to have a WAM of at least 85+ to have a chance. YOur ATAR seems high enough to be competitive. Just work hard to get your WAM up. Good luck!

A WAM of 85+ is a bit too high....realistically it would be ~80 that would give you a good chance if it's an external transfer. Probably a bit lower if it's an internal transfer.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: soNasty on February 17, 2015, 12:42:54 pm
Just to confirm, are these the books required for the following subjects?

Chemistry 1 - Chemistry^3
Calculus 1 - University Calculus, Early Transcendentals 2e
Biology of Cells & Organisms - Biology: An Australian Focus 4e
Introductory Microeconomics - ???
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zigi on February 17, 2015, 01:19:00 pm
Your ATAR and WAM matter equally. As many have said you need to have a WAM of at least 85+ to have a chance. YOur ATAR seems high enough to be competitive. Just work hard to get your WAM up. Good luck!
A WAM of 85+ is a bit too high....realistically it would be ~80 that would give you a good chance if it's an external transfer. Probably a bit lower if it's an internal transfer.

Ok so I'm going to need a fairly high GPA alongside my ATAR but do I also need to sit the STAT? I mean the GPA and the ATAR will mean I have put so much effort already... This is for BSc@UoM and nothing else online seems to be of any help.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Zigi on February 17, 2015, 01:19:55 pm
Mid year entry too***
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bts on February 17, 2015, 01:27:18 pm
whats winter recess? do we still have classes then?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 17, 2015, 03:27:44 pm
whats winter recess? do we still have classes then?

It's the break between semester teaching days. You'll have SWOTVAC and exams for the first few weeks of it though so don't go booking holidays or anything just yet.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 17, 2015, 06:46:28 pm
Ok so I'm going to need a fairly high GPA alongside my ATAR but do I also need to sit the STAT? I mean the GPA and the ATAR will mean I have put so much effort already... This is for BSc@UoM and nothing else online seems to be of any help.

Are you currently enrolled to a Uni within Victoria? If so, then that's all you need to focus on until you can start applying for transfers. As far as I know, UoM doesn't even use the STAT nor accepts it according to the UAC site.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on February 19, 2015, 04:27:51 pm
When can we start paying fees, including the SSAF?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 19, 2015, 04:35:14 pm
When can we start paying fees, including the SSAF?

When your student assistance invoice is issued. Normally is sent out a week into semester, census date is when they become due.
Edited because I can't read properly.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on February 20, 2015, 10:48:17 am
When your student assistance invoice is issued. Normally is sent out when the census date for your subjects is reached, so a few weeks into semester.

Thanks heaps, Stevensmay! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on February 21, 2015, 10:51:54 am
When your student assistance invoice is issued. Normally is sent out when the census date for your subjects is reached, so a few weeks into semester.

I viewed the subject fees online and it said the due date was 31st of March. I thought that was the census date  :o Also do you know where I can see how much I have to pay for SSAF?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cameronp on February 21, 2015, 11:09:21 am
I viewed the subject fees online and it said the due date was 31st of March. I thought that was the census date  :o Also do you know where I can see how much I have to pay for SSAF?
I just went and checked my records from last year. An invoice was issued in early March (first day of semester), with the fees listed as optional but due on the census date if paying up front. This included all subjects I was doing that semester as well as the SSAF. Then, a couple of weeks after the census date, a Commonwealth Assistance Notice recorded that I had incurred a HECS debt for my fees, including the SSAF.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ealam2 on February 22, 2015, 07:07:05 pm
I viewed the subject fees online and it said the due date was 31st of March. I thought that was the census date  :o Also do you know where I can see how much I have to pay for SSAF?

$286 for full time commonwealth supported students and $214 for part time
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on February 23, 2015, 05:29:28 pm
apparently some people are getting hosts or something for orientation, but i havent received an email or text about this, where can i check who my host is and where to meet and stuff
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: #J.Procrastinator on February 23, 2015, 07:02:31 pm
apparently some people are getting hosts or something for orientation, but i havent received an email or text about this, where can i check who my host is and where to meet and stuff

You should have gotten a text or message via your uni email about your host and meeting location. If you haven't, I think you can tag along with one of your friends but be sure to let their host know beforehand.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: infecthead on February 26, 2015, 06:58:48 pm
Is this the partial lecture notes needed for Calc 2? If so how much does it cost/can you get it somewhere cheaper?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 26, 2015, 11:55:39 pm
Is this the partial lecture notes needed for Calc 2? If so how much does it cost/can you get it somewhere cheaper?

Yes. It's about $17 from the Co-op (Baillieu bookshop). You can print it yourself but it's probably going to cost the same by the time you finish.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Snorlax on February 28, 2015, 03:34:35 pm
Are there updated/live personalised timetables that are shown on our student portals?
For example, If any of our classes were cancelled, would It appear on our timetable, or would they just post it in the LMS?

Also, I have no clue what's going on with my Physics fundamentals classes...No info about anything was uploaded to the LMS...Is this normal or what?

Thanksss
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Limista on February 28, 2015, 03:42:17 pm
Are there updated/live personalised timetables that are shown on our student portals?
For example, If any of our classes were cancelled, would It appear on our timetable, or would they just post it in the LMS?


Snorlax, they'd post it on the LMS.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Teba on March 03, 2015, 11:51:51 pm
Hey uni of melbourne,
I am a vce student. Currently im just confused between choosing eal or mainstream english. im a B student and am eligible for EAL? so my questions is, does uni look at you differently if you're an eal student? would it favor a mainstream english over an eal student??? please help
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on March 10, 2015, 04:09:16 pm
Does anyone know much about the Graduate Access Melbourne Bursary?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on March 24, 2015, 01:55:33 am
Will there be costs pulling out of a semester 2 subject? How about sem 1?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on March 24, 2015, 10:20:26 am
Will there be costs pulling out of a semester 2 subject? How about sem 1?

No as long as it is done before the census date of the subject, you can find this on your student invoice. If you withdraw after the census date you still need to pay and it will show up as Withdrawn on your transcript.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sss1997 on March 24, 2015, 04:30:39 pm
Im doing Bsc. Sci and I don't know what I want to do yet, but I saw a post on Melb Uni Confessions about not being offered any graduate course.

What happens if my GPA and say GAMSAT score are not high enough?
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Eluminum on March 24, 2015, 04:46:51 pm
Hi guys I have a question.
I'm in my first year of doing comm/arts at Monash, but I want to transfer to UoM to do comm.
Is it possible to transfer midyear in my first year/has anyone done it before? Because it seems like we get midyear uni results around the time when offers come out.
My atar was 92.9 so its not enough to get into UoM comm on its own.
Thanks if anyone knows!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Shenz0r on March 24, 2015, 05:09:11 pm
Im doing Bsc. Sci and I don't know what I want to do yet, but I saw a post on Melb Uni Confessions about not being offered any graduate course.

What happens if my GPA and say GAMSAT score are not high enough?
Thanks

It depends on what you want to do. If you're not offered a post-graduate course then you can go on to do Honours --> PhD or go through the application process in the following year.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on April 05, 2015, 12:00:54 pm
What is "GPA" and how does it work?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: tiff_tiff on April 05, 2015, 01:58:13 pm
heyy.

does anyone know if monash uni BMS1052 - Human Neurobiology is more similar to the Melbourne uni subjects MBB1 - Mind brain behaviour 1 or MBB2 - Mind Brain Behaviour 2?

Thank you
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Genericname2365 on April 07, 2015, 09:07:11 pm
I'm considering applying for honours in psychology and am wondering whether the subjects used to calculate the entry score/average are all weighted equally? Thanks.
Quote
The score used to rank applicants is calculated as the average of your second year psychology results and all third year results (psychology and non-psychology). Results from other institutions are scaled to equivalency with a University of Melbourne result, where H1 = 80%.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: marr on April 08, 2015, 06:39:24 am
I'm considering applying for honours in psychology and am wondering whether the subjects used to calculate the entry score/average are all weighted equally? Thanks.

It should be 2nd year subjects are weighted at 1/3 and 3rd year at full weighting. Unless they're considering changing the formula this year, it's been like that for the last few years.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: MathsNerd203 on April 13, 2015, 05:48:37 am
For music auditions, are you allowed/required to attend the audition with a piano accompanist? The website does not specify this.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Ha_Nguyen on April 13, 2015, 05:17:58 pm
Hi, can someone explain to me how mid-year entries work?
I'm thinking of applying for the Bachelor of Science for entry in semester 2
If i get accepted, how will my units/subjects work? Will I be doing semester 1 subjects or semester 2? What units can I choose to do?
I want to major in psychology, so can I still do the psychology semester 2 subject without doing the semester 1 unit of it? I'm confused...

There isn't much information on the melb uni website so I'm not sure how my studies will go if i get accepted... Thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: heart on May 06, 2015, 10:14:35 pm
does honours count towards gpa for med and/or dent?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Shenz0r on May 06, 2015, 10:24:37 pm
I think if you do honours and apply for med/dent in the same year,  honours will not be counted in that application cycle because results come out too late.

It will count if you apply the year after honours.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: kimmytaaa on May 14, 2015, 09:16:33 am
Hi,
I was just wondering for example I wanted to be an neonatologist, do I take the Bachelor of Nursing course or biomed course?
thanks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on May 14, 2015, 06:26:36 pm
Hi,
I was just wondering for example I wanted to be an neonatologist, do I take the Bachelor of Nursing course or biomed course?
thanks

Bachelor of Nursing doesn't exist at UoM. You can find all the pathways to a Masters of Nursing Science at http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/pathways/6-nursing
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unfinishedsentenc on May 17, 2015, 01:44:27 pm
If a new student can't make it to Academic Advice Day in late January next year, can they attend the one in late February instead?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rishi97 on May 23, 2015, 10:02:52 am
If a new student can't make it to Academic Advice Day in late January next year, can they attend the one in late February instead?

Not exactly sure but I think the academic advice day in late February is for international students that want to study at Melbourne University.

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on May 23, 2015, 11:50:17 am
If a new student can't make it to Academic Advice Day in late January next year, can they attend the one in late February instead?

I think it is preferred you attend the first one however if you cannot make it the second is fine.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: unfinishedsentenc on May 30, 2015, 12:11:01 pm
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 02, 2015, 10:29:16 pm
Hey guys, if I'm a first year student, can I take third year Science subject which has no prerequisite (AGRI30016 Irrigation and Water Management) ?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sjayne on June 02, 2015, 10:46:09 pm
Any chance of taking a second year psych subject in first year?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 02, 2015, 10:50:06 pm
Is that question directed at me? (lel) No its just that AGRI30016 is intensive and I'm doing level 1 Sciences already (three). Also I have done two breadths already (which I shouldn't have) but I would like to leave the remaining for third year.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on June 03, 2015, 12:39:50 am
Hey guys, if I'm a first year student, can I take third year Science subject which has no prerequisite (AGRI30016 Irrigation and Water Management) ?

University policy is that you need to have completed 50 points of a level before attempting a subject at the next one. However I've only seen this applied sometimes, generally for people in their very first semester.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 06, 2015, 05:36:26 pm
Thanks Stevensmay :) :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 06, 2015, 05:36:45 pm
Hey "unimelb," and everyone who can help, I was wondering if one can take eight subjects in third year of Bachelor of Science? The major will be 50 credit marks, hence in addition to the other seven subjects, this will add up to 137.5 credit marks for the third year.

Is this possible? (I'm in my first year)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: silverpixeli on June 06, 2015, 06:07:00 pm
Hey "unimelb," and everyone who can help, I was wondering if one can take eight subjects in third year of Bachelor of Science? The major will be 50 credit marks, hence in addition to the other seven subjects, this will add up to 137.5 credit marks for the third year.

Is this possible? (I'm in my first year)

A major is 50 credits because it's made up of 4 different subjects, each worth 12.5 credits!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 06, 2015, 09:47:07 pm
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! So does it go for a whole semester, and can I only do the Major in either of the third year  semesters? Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for telling me that  :-\
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 06, 2015, 10:00:57 pm
Just another  question,the criteria says that for Science subjects, one needs to complete 62.5 points AT Level 1 and 2, and 75 points at Level 3, so are we allowed to take only the major  at level three, and the remaining Two Science subject OF level 3 during the Second year?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Shenz0r on June 06, 2015, 10:05:23 pm
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! So does it go for a whole semester, and can I only do the Major in either of the third year  semesters? Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for telling me that  :-\

No. Your major is something you do throughout the whole year. You'll probably do 2 subjects from your major per semester.

A lot of people do eight subjects (4 of which belong to your major) in third year if they haven't ever done a summer or winter semester.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 06, 2015, 10:09:16 pm
But you know the remaining two Level three subjects that add up-to 75 credit  marks along with the major for third year, will a student have  to do them AT third year or can they complete them in Second year, and say leave four breadth for third year alongside major?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notveryasian on June 06, 2015, 11:01:11 pm
But you know the remaining two Level three subjects that add up-to 75 credit  marks along with the major for third year, will a student have  to do them AT third year or can they complete them in Second year, and say leave four breadth for third year alongside major?

If you mean the minimum 2 other third year subjects you must complete, yes, you can do them in second year, as long as you satisfy prerequisites, etc.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Rishi97 on June 07, 2015, 08:25:43 am
Has anyone here done the subject known as 'Graffiti to Terrorism' ?
I'm thinking of doing it as a breadth next semester and would love some insight :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on June 07, 2015, 09:26:25 pm
Has anyone here done the subject known as 'Graffiti to Terrorism' ?
I'm thinking of doing it as a breadth next semester and would love some insight :)

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/CRIM10001
Think its only for sem1
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Gutthi on June 08, 2015, 04:14:59 pm
Hey "Unimelb," I am in need of your help please. I had done BIOL10004 and BIOL10005 as UMEP in last year in year 12. I got 72% (H2B) in BIOL10004, and was given credit for it so I didn't have to do it this year, though I failed BIOL10005. Will this be on my transcript, seeming that I had done it in Year 12?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Kalopsic on June 10, 2015, 10:21:36 pm
Has anyone here done the subject known as 'Graffiti to Terrorism' ?
I'm thinking of doing it as a breadth next semester and would love some insight :)

It's only for semester 1 however I found it quite dry. Basically if you learnt all your theories there's no reason to go to the lectures anymore as all the lecturer does is go through various crimes each week and apply those theories. If you're looking for an easy subject, this is the subject since the essay isn't hard to get good marks in and the only hurdle requirement is attending your tutes. With the essays, make sure you have the correct layout and your referencing is correct because that's where I lost the majority of my marks in assessment 1. Other then that, it's an easy cruise of only 1 contact hour since I only went to the tutes after week one. Plus there's a take home exam so you won't need to study for it.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on June 13, 2015, 02:36:54 pm
Where can I get a list of winter intensive subjects (june/july)?
Also, how long does the subject go for? I've heard it's 6 weeks but also heard that it's 2 weeks
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bts on June 22, 2015, 10:08:42 pm
Hello,
just wanted to clarify: if I do a winter intensive this break does this mean I only need to do my three core subjects during semester 2, and not require a breadth (which I have technically done during the winter break)?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on June 22, 2015, 10:22:30 pm
Hello,
just wanted to clarify: if I do a winter intensive this break does this mean I only need to do my three core subjects during semester 2, and not require a breadth (which I have technically done during the winter break)?

Yes, or you could bring a second year subject into your second semester if you satisfy the prerequisites etc. May need student centre approval for this one depending on when your winter subject concludes.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on June 23, 2015, 02:00:11 am
Just wondering what time and date will the class registrations be open for semester 2? Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on June 23, 2015, 02:07:34 am
Just wondering what time and date will the class registrations be open for semester 2? Thanks  :)

9am Thursday 25 June: 90% of class places in first year subjects (codes xxxx10000 —19999).

9am Monday 29 June: Second year subjects (codes xxxx20000 — 29999).

12noon Monday 29 June: Third year subjects (codes xxxx30000 — 39999).

9am Wednesday 22 July: Remaining 10% of class places in first year subjects (codes xxxx10000 —19999).

 :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Edward Elric on June 23, 2015, 11:31:04 am
9am Thursday 25 June: 90% of class places in first year subjects (codes xxxx10000 —19999).

9am Monday 29 June: Second year subjects (codes xxxx20000 — 29999).

12noon Monday 29 June: Third year subjects (codes xxxx30000 — 39999).

9am Wednesday 22 July: Remaining 10% of class places in first year subjects (codes xxxx10000 —19999).

 :)

Wow thank you so much! Couldn't find this info anywhere.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on June 29, 2015, 03:06:25 pm
Is there a unit offered at Deakin that UniMelb accept as a Methods 3/4 equivalent?

Trying to transfer from Deakin Commerce to UniMelb, but did not do any mathematics units in year 12.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Inside Out on July 01, 2015, 05:45:27 pm
Under the guaranteed entry page for master of engineering, it says, "Students who complete an undergraduate degree at the University of Melbourne and achieve a weighted average mark of 65% in the final two years (by 2019)."..
Does this mean.. the last two YEARS of uni or the final two levels (so like level 2 and level 3 subjects)?
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on July 01, 2015, 11:22:53 pm
Under the guaranteed entry page for master of engineering, it says, "Students who complete an undergraduate degree at the University of Melbourne and achieve a weighted average mark of 65% in the final two years (by 2019)."..
Does this mean.. the last two YEARS of uni or the final two levels (so like level 2 and level 3 subjects)?
Thanks :)

I presume it means last 2 years - so you can fill up your breadth with level 1s ;)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Inside Out on July 02, 2015, 12:24:44 pm
Can you link me to where it says this?

I'm pretty sure it's changed to 65% over your entire undergrad (i.e. not just last 2 years).


Scroll down to "Entry Requirements"

http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/master-eng-electrical.html
http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/master-eng-biomedical.html
http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/master-eng-mechanical.html



All the other disciplines are here

http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/


Its under the guranteed entry page.
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/high_achievers_programs/graduate-course-guarantees/other_graduate_course_guarantees_without_ATAR
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on July 02, 2015, 12:52:02 pm
The entry requirements changed last year so it might be a case of outdated information.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Floatzel98 on July 28, 2015, 06:24:01 pm
Hey guys. I was looking up the Bachelor of Science Honours on the UoM site and realized that there was no options listed for physics or maths at all. I was just wondering the reason why they don't offer honours in those areas and what you would do after you finish your degree. Would you go straight into a masters?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on July 28, 2015, 07:09:49 pm
Hey guys. I was looking up the Bachelor of Science Honours on the UoM site and realized that there was no options listed for physics or maths at all. I was just wondering the reason why they don't offer honours in those areas and what you would do after you finish your degree. Would you go straight into a masters?

Thanks :)

Physics and maths (along with quite a few disciplines) stopped doing Honours a few years ago (something, something, Melbourne Model.) The Masters is effectively a replacement for Honours (and is still a pathway to a PhD.)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: YoshiDino on August 08, 2015, 06:09:24 am
Hey, I'm a future exchange student trying to fulfill upper-level humanities requirements at my university. For it to transfer as an upper-level course, it must be Level 3 in Melbourne. I was just wondering if you can list the easiest Level 3 breadth subjects. I hate essays, so those should be easy. I heard a lot of good things about Living Longer, but I need more options in case I have a time conflict or the classes fill up. Also, how quickly do classes fill up? Do Melbourne students have priority when registering? Like does registration open for me later than everyone else?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: paper-back on August 16, 2015, 04:41:15 pm
Am I able to complete a Major in Physics with an emphasis on Astrophysics(BoS), and then pursue Graduate studies in Medicine?
How would I incorporate the 3 prerequisites for Graduate medicine into my course plan?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: mahler004 on August 16, 2015, 09:50:21 pm
Am I able to complete a Major in Physics with an emphasis on Astrophysics(BoS), and then pursue Graduate studies in Medicine?
How would I incorporate the 3 prerequisites for Graduate medicine into my course plan?

You'd be pretty hard pressed to fulfil all of the prereqs for medicine and physics.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lido on August 16, 2015, 11:05:09 pm
I recently dropped Methods, but I still want to do b.com at melb uni, is there a way I can gain entry asides from meeting the pre.req? Can I do an Arts course and then transfer? (I don't actually know any of this, but please let me know if there's any alternative ways!)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: scarletmoon on September 17, 2015, 09:11:33 pm
Can I get into graduate medicine at melb uni with a bachelor of biomedical science at monash?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Shenz0r on September 17, 2015, 09:23:26 pm
As of now Melbourne doesn't care what degree you've got (you could have Commerce, Arts, whatever) nor the uni you're going to, so long as you've completed their pre-reqs of 2nd year anatomy, biochem and physiology.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: someone011 on September 22, 2015, 02:19:04 pm
Hi, I was just wondering if someone could tell me where I should go to get advice about where different majors could take me? (Namely a neuroscience or microbiology/immunology major). I've been to the science student centre before to work out what subjects I should be taking to make sure I qualify for these majors and they weren't particularly helpful. Also, is it possible to get advice somewhere about what institutions are good to go to for exchange in terms of particular subjects/majors? Thank you!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: martyrocks on September 25, 2015, 06:26:57 pm
Hi guys

Was wondering is there any pathway option into the biomedicine undergrad? Like is it possible to first get into a Bachelor of Arts and then later transfer to this course?

Any info regarding this will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: squirtle on September 29, 2015, 06:32:04 pm
Hi UoM!

Just wondering...Have people ever successfully transferred from a Bachelor of Science to a Bachelor of Biomedicine within the first year? Given that they've met the required GPA, course application processes etc.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: heart on October 09, 2015, 02:17:47 pm
Hi guys

Was wondering is there any pathway option into the biomedicine undergrad? Like is it possible to first get into a Bachelor of Arts and then later transfer to this course?

Any info regarding this will be appreciated.

Possibly but would be better do to science to cover the prerequisites for 2nd year.

Hi UoM!

Just wondering...Have people ever successfully transferred from a Bachelor of Science to a Bachelor of Biomedicine within the first year? Given that they've met the required GPA, course application processes etc.

I wouldn't recommend this science is the same as biomedicine even better as you have more much more freedom. Biomedicine was pretty much made to attract high atar students and I feel for the trap lol

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on October 09, 2015, 03:36:16 pm
is the Diploma of Languages only allowed to be taken concurrently with undergraduate degrees?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: heart on October 09, 2015, 04:11:45 pm
is the Diploma of Languages only allowed to be taken concurrently with undergraduate degrees?


Yep I asked this for the Diploma in maths at uni and it should be the same for languages. You always do this after you graduate https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/GD-ARTS as another option.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on October 11, 2015, 08:54:21 pm
Are there any emails that I can send all my questions (very specific Q's), regarding the Bachelor of Commerce?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jawnle on October 12, 2015, 12:13:34 am
With the Access Scholarship, is it possible to ask for all of it (with a valid reason) rather than waiting for it to be given in 6 parts throughout our 3 year course?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on October 12, 2015, 02:31:26 am
With the Access Scholarship, is it possible to ask for all of it (with a valid reason) rather than waiting for it to be given in 6 parts throughout our 3 year course?

Not with an Access Scholarship but I don't think that would be possible. Otherwise wouldn't people who do this be able to transfer out of the course or withdraw from the course with an extra sum of cash in their pocket?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: martyrocks on October 29, 2015, 04:39:05 pm
Hey guyys
Was wondering is there any Pathway to biomed? Like maybe studing arts and then transfering? Also from access school
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: martyrocks on October 29, 2015, 04:39:25 pm
Hey guyys
Was wondering is there any Pathway to biomed? Like maybe studing arts and then transfering? Also from access school
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: katiesaliba on November 09, 2015, 12:01:19 am
Hey guyys
Was wondering is there any Pathway to biomed? Like maybe studing arts and then transfering? Also from access school

You could perhaps do science and major in the same thing  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: notdashwood on November 10, 2015, 10:07:47 am
so I got an offer for arts last year and deferred for 12 months - when should I be expecting to be sent all the enrolment info? I think I remember being told November?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cameotodd on November 10, 2015, 10:28:47 am
What is the possibility of getting into Melbourne Commerce with an ATAR below 95?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Davos on November 10, 2015, 11:25:55 am
What is the possibility of getting into Melbourne Commerce with an ATAR below 95?

I'm not Uni Melbourne but I can help I believe.
Last year, 24% of people accepted into the course had an ATAR below 95.00. If I were you, just focus hard on the remaining exams and leave no doubt.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cameotodd on November 10, 2015, 12:32:09 pm
That's true, well I only have Legal left today, and all other exams have gone well :) Hopefully this one does as well.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: ~V on November 10, 2015, 01:10:48 pm
What is the possibility of getting into Melbourne Commerce with an ATAR below 95?
Did you apply for SEAS but most importantly, are you eligible for Access Melbourne, the entry score will come down to 88.0. If not, i think you need to get 93 or above to be competitive.
I'm not Uni Melbourne but I can help I believe.
Last year, 24% of people accepted into the course had an ATAR below 95.00. If I were you, just focus hard on the remaining exams and leave no doubt.
A majority of the 24% are the ones who get in with Access Melbourne.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: duo0024 on November 26, 2015, 02:43:26 pm
Hey guys so I am going to be overseas when the first round offers come out (18 January 2016) and know that I need to enrol into UoM online. What do I need to bring overseas with me to make enrolling much easier? I'm assuming my passport and taxfile number but is there anything else?
THANKS HEAPS!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Genericname2365 on November 28, 2015, 10:52:25 am
Hey, so Principles of Neuroscience is listed as a potential breadth option for Arts but has ''2 semesters Biology at 1st year, or 1st year of the Bachelor of Biomedicine'' listed as prerequisites. Since these prerequisites can obviously not be met in an Arts degree is it actually possible to take it as a breadth subject? My major is psychology so I had been looking at this subject as a possible 3rd year breadth.
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/NEUR30003#breadthId
 
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: spectroscopy on November 28, 2015, 01:24:16 pm
Did you apply for SEAS but most importantly, are you eligible for Access Melbourne, the entry score will come down to 88.0. If not, i think you need to get 93 or above to be competitive. A majority of the 24% are the ones who get in with Access Melbourne.
If you have no seas, or something like a kwong lee dow guaranteed entry (im pretty sure kld doesnt even apply for comm b/c kld min atar for any course is 95 which is = to comm clearly in) you cant get in without a 95. ive known kids with high 94's not get in.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Jaydude01 on November 29, 2015, 08:55:25 pm
Have a couple of  questions about graduate applications that I would appreciate help with:

.I've finished an undergraduate degree but obviously final results haven't come out yet, do I mark my previous study as not completed?

.When asked to upload transcripts would the unofficial transcript that you can get emailed suffice? i don't have an official transcript and applications close tomorrow so I'm kind of panicking right now.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: TheDragonBorn on December 05, 2015, 08:28:50 pm
I have some questions.
 The entrance requirement of Masters of Engineering program in 2013 was 65% in the last two years. This was changed at the end of last year to include all three years into WAM. For those applying for Graduate Engineering for 2016 will they take WAM of final two years or all three years.
I ask this because my results from first year are quite bad, due to some circumstances I had (not covered by access Melbourne). My WAM for all three years is around 63, where as my WAM for final two years is around 70, so I am not sure If I will get into the Masters program, cause they changed this just last year.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Pup on December 05, 2015, 09:31:18 pm
I'm about to graduate from my Biomed degree and i received a sanction which is described as "You have breached the tenure requirements of your scholarship. Payments will be held until all issues are resolved".  Does anyone know what this means? I know that I'm  on the Access Melbourne Scholarship.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: chabooski on December 10, 2015, 04:57:55 pm
Hi there, I'm currently looking at potential postgrad courses that I might do were I to go to Melbourne Uni and I'm just wondering what's the likelihood of getting CSP or HECS-help for post grad? I wouldn't say I'm at a significant financial disadvantage, but I know that I wouldn't be able to pay the fees upfront. What options are there?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: lolwat709 on December 16, 2015, 05:59:45 pm
I would like to ask if it is still possible to enter or be considered for Bachelor of Science with an ATAR of 77.  I have am eligible for access melbourne due to financial disadvantage but missed the cutoff by 1 ATAR. Should I still leave it as a preference?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Chang Feng on December 16, 2015, 08:24:35 pm
hello, so i was wondering what subjects and course would be best to choose from Monash universities' business department, so i can get as much credit as possible when transferring to melb uni commerce 1st year second semester or 2nd year, wishing to major in finance or actuarial studies or less likely maybe accounting in commerce at melb uni, not to sure with the major yet).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Deshouka on December 17, 2015, 07:21:51 pm
Hello,

I am thinking of doing doctor of optometry under the guaranteed entry scheme. Just to make sure, does this mean I can do pick any electives/subjects I desire, as long as my WAM  is at least 75% and do biomedicine/science?

Thanks for your time.  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Alter on December 17, 2015, 10:29:48 pm
Hello.

When are offers made for the Access Melbourne Scholarship and approximately what ATAR would be competitive enough to have a shot at obtaining one? I fall under 2-3 relevant SEAS categories (financial, rural, difficult circumstances), so does this improve my chances over someone else?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: alchemy on December 18, 2015, 11:59:42 am
By doing the Actuarial Studies course, will it equip me with the skills and requirements in order to obtain a career as an Investment Banker in the future? Or would majoring in Finance be more suitable for this?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: 96n_n on December 18, 2015, 12:04:46 pm
I would like to ask if it is still possible to enter or be considered for Bachelor of Science with an ATAR of 77.  I have am eligible for access melbourne due to financial disadvantage but missed the cutoff by 1 ATAR. Should I still leave it as a preference?

I'm pretty sure that the cut-off for Bachelor of Science with SEAS is strictly 78.00. However, it won't hurt to have it in your preferences. If you're sure you still want to do Bachelor of Science at Melbourne Uni, you could always transfer given you have a high enough wam.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Deshouka on December 18, 2015, 12:19:13 pm
Hello.

When are offers made for the Access Melbourne Scholarship and approximately what ATAR would be competitive enough to have a shot at obtaining one? I fall under 2-3 relevant SEAS categories (financial, rural, difficult circumstances), so does this improve my chances over someone else?

Hey, I received an offer from Melb Uni on the 15th December. It was by email. My atar was 99+ but apparently my one includes a tuition fee exemption
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on December 18, 2015, 06:01:21 pm
By doing the Actuarial Studies course, will it equip me with the skills and requirements in order to obtain a career as an Investment Banker in the future? Or would majoring in Finance be more suitable for this?

As far as I can tell (from friends), actuarial will set you up more to do insurance, risk analysis etc. I've also heard that actuarial is the hardest of all the Commerce majors with a very high drop out rate, so even though you can do IB from actuarial you may not want to.

Important to note is that when you graduate from unimelb (or any uni really) you aren't officially an actuary as you are required to work for a certain numbers of months and then take another test. From memory it can be around 7 years from starting undergrad until you are actually fully qualified.

Actuarial is very maths (well, it's pretty much all maths to be honest) whereas finance not so much. Finance will cover some more directly applicable subjects (derivative securities etc) but you may be able to take them in the actuarial major anyway.

Either will work but it depends on why you were wanting to do actuarial and then pivot to IB after graduation.

In summary, actuarial is maths and risk, finance is Investments, Derivative Securities etc. It really depends on what part of IB you were wanting to go in to.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Alter on December 20, 2015, 10:08:57 am
Hey, I received an offer from Melb Uni on the 15th December. It was by email. My atar was 99+ but apparently my one includes a tuition fee exemption
Thanks for the response. Do you know the ATARs of any other people who obtained this scholarship? Congrats, by the way!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: sparkyblossom on December 20, 2015, 01:09:22 pm
Hi,
I was just wondering if it matters what the level of the breadth subject is? For example, would it be a disadvantage to take a Level 3 subject in first year?
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on December 20, 2015, 01:23:48 pm
Hi,
I was just wondering if it matters what the level of the breadth subject is? For example, would it be a disadvantage to take a Level 3 subject in first year?
Thanks :)

Your degree will require you to take a certain number of breadth subjects at different levels. I believe the amounts are the same across all undergrad degrees but the below is for Science just in case.

If you search for 'unimelb handbook coursename' you should be able to find something like this https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2015/B-SCI#structureId

Essentially it dictates how many breadth you can do and what level they can be at.

In the context of doing a level 3 breadth in your first year, it is reasonably unlikely but not impossible. From memory there is a rule that you need to have completed 50 points of study at a certain level before you can take a subject at the next. I've seen this rule applied sporadically so it isn't a definite no, but I do believe they are stricter with its application when it comes to first years.

Have you checked that you satisfy all of the requirements and potentially the recommended knowledge for the subject?

Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Splash-Tackle-Flail on December 21, 2015, 11:45:22 am
Hey just got a few questions :)

What are the possibilities of learning a language along side Biomed (DipLang)- can you do one language unit for the duration of the course? What are the study abroad options like? How does study abroad compare to exchange?

What specialties in medicine is UOM really reputable for teaching?

 Is there any advantages in the MD for specialising (or non-GP work)? How important is a Phd for these things/how easy is it to move from the MD to a Phd?

With change of preference period soon ending, is it possible to change my preference and still get into Biomed guaranteed MD? (like can I contact UOM and organise something if I end up deciding to go UOM but after Change of Preference Period; I've already accepted the scholarship and passed the MMI, but I'm wondering if I would still be eligible if Biomed is my second preference, but I after the change of preference I move it to first somehow).
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on December 21, 2015, 12:04:46 pm
What are the possibilities of learning a language along side Biomed (DipLang)- can you do one language unit for the duration of the course? What are the study abroad options like? How does study abroad compare to exchange?

You can do a Dip.Lang or alternatively just study a language as part of your breadth subjects. Honestly study abroad opportunities are quite limited in Biomed. The best (and pretty much only) time you can go is 2nd year 2nd semester. It's possible but if you intended to exchange to a non-English country (especially in Asia) it'll be hard to find suitable universities. Iirc exchange is when UoM has an agreement with another university so you continue paying to UoM and they sort out the rest with the university that you're going to; Study abroad is when you need to do all administration work and pay all fees to the overseas university yourself
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Splash-Tackle-Flail on December 21, 2015, 12:10:36 pm
You can do a Dip.Lang or alternatively just study a language as part of your breadth subjects. Honestly study abroad opportunities are quite limited in Biomed. The best (and pretty much only) time you can go is 2nd year 2nd semester. It's possible but if you intended to exchange to a non-English country (especially in Asia) it'll be hard to find suitable universities. Iirc exchange is when UoM has an agreement with another university so you continue paying to UoM and they sort out the rest with the university that you're going to; Study abroad is when you need to do all administration work and pay all fees to the overseas university yourself

Is there a link that would show the suitable universities for Biomed where mandarin is spoken (like Taiwan and Singapore as well as China)? Can an exchange be done over the summer holidays instead? (2nd year 2nd semester will be very impossible if I have to learn the science content over seas in another language lol)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: pi on December 21, 2015, 12:34:49 pm
Is there any advantages in the MD for specialising (or non-GP work)? How important is a Phd for these things/how easy is it to move from the MD to a Phd?

No advantages having the MD over any other medical degree in Aus.

Most people tend to do their PhD after either their registrar exams to make themselves more competitive for specialty spots or during their specialty fellowship to make them more competitive for consultant positions.

AFAIK the research component of MD4 can become a fast-track PhD although I suspect very few people do it.

edit: as for your teaching question, I'm sure it depends on your clinical school and what opportunities you make for yourself on the wards.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Mieow on December 21, 2015, 03:47:04 pm
Is there a link that would show the suitable universities for Biomed where mandarin is spoken (like Taiwan and Singapore as well as China)? Can an exchange be done over the summer holidays instead? (2nd year 2nd semester will be very impossible if I have to learn the science content over seas in another language lol)

Iirc there was an exchange opportunity to study in China (or I think it might have been Taiwan) for about a month during the summer. I think it was an intensive language study trip but I can't remember the exact details because I didn't look into it. The faculty sent me a list of pre-approved subjects at overseas universities but I can't remember where I put it so I'll PM it to you when I find it.

Unless you're absolutely fluent in that foreign language you're more than likely going to have to find a university that teaches the relevant science subjects in English. Pretty sure there were a few in China that did this
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Splash-Tackle-Flail on December 21, 2015, 03:49:32 pm
Iirc there was an exchange opportunity to study in China (or I think it might have been Taiwan) for about a month during the summer. I think it was an intensive language study trip but I can't remember the exact details because I didn't look into it. The faculty sent me a list of pre-approved subjects at overseas universities but I can't remember where I put it so I'll PM it to you when I find it.

Unless you're absolutely fluent in that foreign language you're more than likely going to have to find a university that teaches the relevant science subjects in English. Pretty sure there were a few in China that did this

Sweet! If you could chuck me a PM if you find them that would be fantastic. And yeah unless I really want to practice pronouncing 我听不懂 I'm going to have to go to one that teaches in English.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: pi on December 24, 2015, 05:07:27 pm
You've got nothing to lose by telling them, I'd tell them just for your own peace of mind :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: scarletmoon on December 25, 2015, 01:37:19 pm
Will completing a bachelor of science at monash make me eligible for graduate med at melb uni? What subjects do I need to complete in my science degree?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Alter on December 28, 2015, 08:24:24 pm
Hi guys.

I'm applying for a scholarship and I need to provide details about UoM. I was just wondering what I should put in for the uni's mailing address? Is it the same as its normal address or...?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Splash-Tackle-Flail on December 28, 2015, 08:30:52 pm
As far as completing the semester research component for the postgraduate MD, is the compulsory inclusion of it treated as equal to the whole year BMedSci research stint (like as far as clinical placements and appealing CVs go)?

And I heard (rumour) that for the guaranteed CSP MD pathway, placements for clinical years for the chancellors cohort are done randomly, while the rest of the Biomed/Science cohort is done via marks- is this true (apparently this has led to some chancellors doing GAMSAT so their placement isn't done randomly)?

Finally is the 4th Jan Change of Preference for all applicants or just those in IB?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Alter on December 28, 2015, 09:37:18 pm
Afaik the 4th Jan window is open for all.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: brightsky on December 28, 2015, 10:11:46 pm
And I heard (rumour) that for the guaranteed CSP MD pathway, placements for clinical years for the chancellors cohort are done randomly, while the rest of the Biomed/Science cohort is done via marks- is this true (apparently this has led to some chancellors doing GAMSAT so their placement isn't done randomly)?

No longer true. Now, all candidates are subject to the randomisation process. The policy was changed pretty much on the day results were released this year. See: http://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/assets/documents/policies/Clinical-School-Allocation-v3.6.pdf.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: alchemy on January 08, 2016, 03:25:33 pm
Probably a long shot, but does anyone have a link for the case studies of past students at UoM (I'm referring to the ones which say student A studied *this course*, did *these subjects*, and did *these activities in uni* and is now an intern at *this company*)? Mainly interested in the commerce ones (actuarial and finance majors).
Asking this because I went to the commerce information session a couple of times and they had these sort of case studies on the PowerPoint slides.
Apologies for my vague description but hopefully I've got the point across.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Cilantro on January 15, 2016, 03:49:55 pm
Hi guys,
i got offered a full fee place for the DVM. i was wondering if there is any chance of being offered a CSP or is this the last round of offers.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: trickster on January 16, 2016, 01:52:14 am
Probably a long shot, but does anyone have a link for the case studies of past students at UoM (I'm referring to the ones which say student A studied *this course*, did *these subjects*, and did *these activities in uni* and is now an intern at *this company*)? Mainly interested in the commerce ones (actuarial and finance majors).
Asking this because I went to the commerce information session a couple of times and they had these sort of case studies on the PowerPoint slides.
Apologies for my vague description but hopefully I've got the point across.


There are a few in the brochures that were given on Open Day.
You can view them here;
http://bcom.unimelb.edu.au/brochures

Hope that helped! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Impulse on January 18, 2016, 05:16:58 pm
Just wanted to ask about offers. Do we have to apply for CSP, which I can, 'before I accept the offer' or 'before I enroll after having accepted the offer'?

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on January 18, 2016, 06:11:09 pm
Just wanted to ask about offers. Do we have to apply for CSP, which I can, 'before I accept the offer' or 'before I enroll after having accepted the offer'?

Thanks  :)

Your offer is already CSP or full-fee, it isn't something that you get to choose (unless things have seriously changed). Do you perhaps means HECS, the one where you choose whether you will pay your fees upfront or when you enter the workforce?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Chang Feng on January 19, 2016, 11:10:40 am
heeyy, i was just wondering what units/ subjects would you have to do from the Monash Bachelor of Business degree (in 1st year), to get credited for when transferring to melb uni Bachelor of Commerce.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: scarletmoon on January 19, 2016, 12:07:50 pm
Is a GPA of 7 at melb uni equal to a GPA of 4 at monash?
and is a 7 point GPA scale better than a 4 point GPA?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: dankfrank420 on January 19, 2016, 06:16:23 pm
Am I likely to receive a second round B Comm offer with a 98.70 ATAR?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on January 20, 2016, 06:52:26 pm
I completed of Bachelor of Arts at Deakin with a WAM of 80 (6.1/7.0 GPA) and was not accepted in UniMelb's Bachelor of Commerce.

Would it be worth giving them a call to see why not? or would I not be given a definitive reason.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: QFS on January 20, 2016, 07:55:03 pm
I completed of Bachelor of Arts at Deakin with a WAM of 80 (6.1/7.0 GPA) and was not accepted in UniMelb's Bachelor of Commerce.

Would it be worth giving them a call to see why not? or would I not be given a definitive reason.

Did you fulfil the maths prerequisite?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on January 21, 2016, 12:34:40 am
My situation is a bit complicated, so I'll start a thread instead of clogging up this one.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cameotodd on January 21, 2016, 10:41:12 pm
Is the website where you do your administrative enrollment (you choose your subjects, and fill in enrollment details etc.) not working for you guys?
This is the website I'm talking about, you go here and click 'start your administrative enrolment online': http://students.unimelb.edu.au/get-started/domestic/accept
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Escobar on January 22, 2016, 11:45:45 am
when are we supposed to apply for a student card?
also, when do we get the invoices for fees?

also, what is the "after you've enrolled" tab supposed to show?
in google chrome it just shows this "null" image
(http://i.imgur.com/ubPnNhZ.png)
and in IE it says something about a certificate error
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: FitzUnknown on January 22, 2016, 10:13:40 pm
Thanks for the response. Do you know the ATARs of any other people who obtained this scholarship? Congrats, by the way!
Hi, I had/have the exact same questions about the Access Melbourne scholarship and I'm just wondering, did you find out  much else about it?

For anyone who can help-- would all the scholarships have been given out by now? If not, do I have any chance getting it with an atar of 93~ and seas?
I'd appreciate any response, thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Impulse on January 23, 2016, 03:02:50 pm
Your offer is already CSP or full-fee, it isn't something that you get to choose (unless things have seriously changed). Do you perhaps means HECS, the one where you choose whether you will pay your fees upfront or when you enter the workforce?

Yes sorry. That was what I meant.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Alter on January 23, 2016, 03:22:09 pm
@Impulse: You apply for HECS-Help during the enrolment process after you've accepted the offer. Make sure that you read it carefully because you'll need to have TFN before the census date in order to defer your payments using this scheme.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Auralee on January 30, 2016, 02:00:40 pm
Apologies in advance if this has been answered previously. Can you blame me though for not wanting to sift through the other fifty-odd pages? lol

Anyway. I'm just really confused with this whole 'levels' thing for subjects - particularly for breadth. What I do understand is the levels are indicative of difficulty. What I don't understand I suppose is whether it's okay to say, in first year, maybe look at some level 2 subjects which honestly appeal to me more than the level 1 subject I've got in mind.

I'm looking at a subject called Romanticism, Feminism and Revolution which has some really good classic books that I would love to sink my teeth into. Only thing is, it's a level 2. Is there some logical order of subjects that I am missing or supposed to do? (e.g. lvl 1,2 then 3) Will I be out of my depths as a first year biomedicine student with no prior experience in 'writing essays for university'?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: literally lauren on January 30, 2016, 02:15:55 pm
Apologies in advance if this has been answered previously. Can you blame me though for not wanting to sift through the other fifty-odd pages? lol

Anyway. I'm just really confused with this whole 'levels' thing for subjects - particularly for breadth. What I do understand is the levels are indicative of difficulty. What I don't understand I suppose is whether it's okay to say, in first year, maybe look at some level 2 subjects which honestly appeal to me more than the level 1 subject I've got in mind.

I'm looking at a subject called Romanticism, Feminism and Revolution which has some really good classic books that I would love to sink my teeth into. Only thing is, it's a level 2. Is there some logical order of subjects that I am missing or supposed to do? (e.g. lvl 1,2 then 3) Will I be out of my depths as a first year biomedicine student with no prior experience in 'writing essays for university'?
This question seemed vaguely English related, so I have been summoned from my slumber.

The levels things don't necessarily correspond with difficulty, it's just that 'Level 2' units tend to be taken in 2nd year by students who have already done the Level 1 background. However, if there are no formal prerequisites, which there aren't for RFR, then you should be fine to pick it up on a whim or as a breadth.

Some people do breadth tracks whereby they go from Level 1 - 3 over the course of their degree, so if you wanted to, you could do a few Level 1 essay writing subjects and see how you go. But if you'd rather just do RFR and fill your breadth slots with other random interests like I did, that's also fine.

With regards to this subject in particular, I don't think you'll be out of your depth at all because a) a lot of people do Level 2/3 English subjects without the Level 1 experience, both as Arts students and from other disciplines, so the staff and assessment usually cater to these different skill levels, and b) that subject is taught by Tom Ford this year who is probably the best person in the whole department (in my admittedly limited and perhaps not wholly representative opinion, but see my review of Gothic Fictions which he took last year for more details).

The only potential trouble you may face is that because this subject only has two pieces of assessment, you don't want to go in all overconfident and end up getting a less than desirable mark on the first essay, because it's very hard to recover in the next one, and that won't be a reflection on your skill so much as indicative of some problems that plague English subjects at UoM. The assessment breakdown is one of the biggest, but it can be circumvented if you're prepared to work at it.

I'd recommend talking to your tutor in the first week or two, either after class one day or in their office hours if they prefer, and just be like 'sup, I'm a biomed kid but I'm really interested in this subject - just wanted to know if we could chat about essay expectations and how I should approach things because I haven't done a tertiary lit subject before.' You may want to talk to them about referencing too, if that isn't something you've experienced in other subjects (...idk the first thing about biomed other than the fact that I'm jealous of your library). Also if your tutor isn't Tom Ford then I'd recommend changing tutorials, if possible :P Alternatively, you could go and see him since he's more likely to give you a decent answer, though because your tutor will be the one marking you, they're preferences should take precedence.

I know resources and reference points for English are few and far between, and I haven't actually done RFR, but let me know if you have any follow up questions and I'll try and help out :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Auralee on January 30, 2016, 04:09:33 pm
Thank you Lauren for your insight! I think it might be a good idea to take a level 1 English subject (at least for first semester) so I can test the waters a little bit. When I have more time, I'll definitely go and check out your reviews for those subjects. I don't suppose you could recommend a good level 1 subject that might be in the same vein as RFR?

Thanks again

edit: I feel bad that I can't return the favour of a mini-essay  ;) I will definitely take what you said on board!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: literally lauren on January 30, 2016, 04:51:25 pm
Thank you Lauren for your insight! I think it might be a good idea to take a level 1 English subject (at least for first semester) so I can test the waters a little bit. When I have more time, I'll definitely go and check out your reviews for those subjects. I don't suppose you could recommend a good level 1 subject that might be in the same vein as RFR?

Thanks again

edit: I feel bad that I can't return the favour of a mini-essay  ;) I will definitely take what you said on board!

There are only two Level 1 English subjects: Lit and Performance and Modern and Contemporary Literature, and if I were you, I'd let your text preferences dictate your decision
Lit&Perf. Texts
Romeo and Juliet - Shakespeare
Othello - Shakespeare
Romantic Poetry - Wordsworth, Blake, Byron et. al.
Pride and Prejudice - Austen
Great Expectations - Dickens
Jane Eyre - Bronte
A Doll’s House - Ibsen
The Cherry Orchard - Chekov
ModCon Texts
To the Lighthouse - Woolf
The Waste Land - Eliot
Waiting for Godot - Beckett
Dubliners - Joyce
After the quake - Murakami
The Catcher in the Rye - Salinger
Ariel - Plath
Having done both of them in 2014, I'd argue Lit&Perf was coordinated better and had higher quality lecturers overall, though I found the ModCon texts more fun to write on. However, if your priority is seeking clarity in assessment, either subject will do since the assessment is identical for both of them (i.e. one short essay that's basically a Lit. passage analysis; one essay that's basically an English Text Response based on a prompt, and one comparative piece at the end of semester where you compare what to texts have to say about a certain idea).

I'd probably recommend Lit&Perf though since they were way clearer about the assessment expectations and easing you into the process since it's a Level 1 Semester 1 subject, so it's very much got that 'high-school-to-uni' transition vibe that made things a lot smoother.

Unfortunately it's kind of just the luck of the draw in terms of getting a decent tutor though, so I know I joked about it before, but you might legitimately want to move tutorials in the first week or so if your seems less than helpful.

But there's a different set of problems with taking an Arts/ essay writing subject as a breadth for the first time and taking an English subject for the first time, so you could just do a first year Philosophy/ Anthropology/ Gender Studies/ Sociology/ Media subject if they sound more interesting, and that'd help you familiarise yourself with the tertiary essay writing process in general before you tackled a Level 2 English one. In all honesty, if you approach it diligently and are prepared for a bit of steep learning curve, English subjects really aren't as difficult as some lecturers like to make them out to be :P

Secret Life of Language is also utterly brilliant, though that has little to do with English or essay writing; I just thought I'd do my requisite pimping out of the Linguistics department here today :3

There's also this thing which may or may not be useful - it's mostly jargon and basic stuff but there is some decent advice in there.
You can even book an SAS thing where they'll appoint someone (usually a graduate level student in the area you're studying) to sit down with your and go through your work. I've never done this before but a few friends have found it useful in the past, so that's always a good back up plan if you're really uncertain about things :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Maz on January 31, 2016, 05:00:23 pm
how much does it cost to live on campus?  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: literally lauren on January 31, 2016, 05:40:58 pm
Depends where you want to stay. The 2015 Residency costs are here, which should give you some idea.

There's also a table here of various other costs if you're looking into share-housing or other options.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Maz on January 31, 2016, 06:27:47 pm
Depends where you want to stay. The 2015 Residency costs are here, which should give you some idea.

There's also a table here of various other costs if you're looking into share-housing or other options.
Thankyou :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: dankfrank420 on February 01, 2016, 08:31:48 pm
If you achieve a 65%+ average at Uni Melb, are you guaranteed a CSP place in their postgrad engineering program provided you did the correct undergrad sequence?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: dankfrank420 on February 01, 2016, 09:55:55 pm
Yep!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: heart on February 01, 2016, 10:05:10 pm
Thanks!

Students who complete an undergraduate degree at the University of Melbourne and achieve a weighted average mark of 65% in the final two years (by 2019).

Source: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/high_achievers_programs/graduate-course-guarantees/other_graduate_course_guarantees_without_ATAR
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: harvey_specter on February 02, 2016, 05:37:32 pm
Any idea when the enrolments deadlines are for units? I've accepted my offer, but can't find anything about dates online.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 02, 2016, 05:41:51 pm
Any idea when the enrolments deadlines are for units? I've accepted my offer, but can't find anything about dates online.

http://students.unimelb.edu.au/admin/enrolment/dates

Friday the 11th of March is the last day to enroll in subjects. Your offer will most likely have a different expiry on it though.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Auralee on February 05, 2016, 11:24:50 am
Okay so I'm a little disappointed because I'm having trouble finding subjects that fit with my timetable for breadth. Which I find slightly annoying because the whole point of breadth is doing something to expand your horizons a bit, right?

As a biomedicine student keen to tap into subjects from the ARTS faculty (creative writing, lit and performance etc) I just CANNOT find any breadth that I actually WANT to do that will coincide with my existing timetable (which for the most part is 'locked in' because of the nature of the compulsory biomedicine subjects). Does anyone have any advice on who I should talk to at the university? I honestly just feel like calling up and asking them to TELL me which breadth subjects are realistic for me, because at the moment I've been doing a bit of trial and error. I have unenrolled and re-enrolled in things that many times that it's making me very stressed.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: literally lauren on February 05, 2016, 11:56:10 am
Okay so I'm a little disappointed because I'm having trouble finding subjects that fit with my timetable for breadth. Which I find slightly annoying because the whole point of breadth is doing something to expand your horizons a bit, right?

As a biomedicine student keen to tap into subjects from the ARTS faculty (creative writing, lit and performance etc) I just CANNOT find any breadth that I actually WANT to do that will coincide with my existing timetable (which for the most part is 'locked in' because of the nature of the compulsory biomedicine subjects). Does anyone have any advice on who I should talk to at the university? I honestly just feel like calling up and asking them to TELL me which breadth subjects are realistic for me, because at the moment I've been doing a bit of trial and error. I have unenrolled and re-enrolled in things that many times that it's making me very stressed.
Instead of having to enrol, unenrol, and re-enrol in a bunch of different subjects, you can just refer to the Master Timetable and see which subjects have viable time slots. Unfortunately you'll have to enrol to check tutorial slots, but you should be able to narrow some things down depending on what's available.

If you go and talk to someone at the student centre, they might be able to go through a list of viable options with you, but you could probably do the same thing yourself just by looking at all the level 1 breadths that pertain to your areas of interest. You can use this thing (which lets you select what course you're doing in order to bring up breadth options in other disciplines, and select by level so you can just find the L1 stuff) or you can look into the following subject codes which are pretty much the only options for Level 1 Arts in the creative writing realms:
Codes:
Semester 1:
ENGL10002 - Literature and Performance
MECM10003 - Media and Communications
LING10002 - Intercultural Communications
SCRN10001 - Introduction to Cinema Studies
SOCI10001 - Understanding Society

Semester 2:
ENGL10001 - Modern and Contemporary Literature
CWRI10001 - Creative Writing: Ideas and Practice
CULS10005 - Media, Identity, and Everyday Life
AHIS10002 - Modern Art: Politics of the New
ANTH10001 - Anthropology: Studying Human Diversity

Your other options include:

- choosing something totally different just for this semester (e.g. a music breadth, a UNIB subject, a summer/winter intensive if you only want to do 3 subjects this semester - a great option if you've already got a hectic timetable) and then pick up a more ideal creative writing/ literature-related subject in Semester 2. I actually did something similar just because I needed to complete a Level 1 Arts discipline subject, but found most of them really tedious since the 'Intro to ___' stuff was always so boring. So I just did Level 2 subjects in first year, Level 2 subjects in third year, and am now in the position where I'm going back and just choosing any random subjects in History or Philosophy just to get my Level 1 quota up. (Join me in HIST10007 if you want - it looks cool!)
Uou can expand your horizons in many different directions over the course of your degree, if you want. My first breadth was about Genetics, and the second about Cultural Forensics (analysing stolen artworks and learning how to spot a fake 8) ) so there's really no incentive to have a consistent breadth track unless you're really set on doing a chain of English/Creative Writing subjects.

- choose a breadth at Level 2 or 3 if those ones are more interesting or more viable fits for your current timetable. Most of the creative writing subjects could be picked up without any background experience since they all pertain to different things (short story writing, playwriting, creative non-fiction, etc.)

- underload this semester, and overload next semester with two breadth subjects (not recommended unless you've got no other choice - an intensive subject for a week or two mid-year would be preferable to a whole semester of overloading, usually)

- enrol in a subject like Lit and Performance of Creative Writing anyway, and just don't go to lectures (assuming they're the inconveniences.) Listen to the recordings online, and just find yourself a tutorial slot that suits you. This also isn't something I'd recommend, but in reality, recording should suffice, and (for English subjects at least) the lectures tend to be information dumps about the important facets of the text you're studying that week, and it's the tutorials where you actually unpack the ideas and discuss them in a way that's helpful to the essays you'll write.

Hope that helps! :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Auralee on February 05, 2016, 04:57:03 pm
Thank you Lauren again for your assistance! I'll have a look at some of your suggestions to see if any of them will fit in with my current time table. Cultural forensics sounds cool actually, and the Understanding Society one. I don't have my heart set on anything, more just frustrated that I can't seem to find anything to slot into my time table.

xo
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: uservvv on February 10, 2016, 05:43:51 pm
Hi, just wondering if it is possible to do two breadths in one semester?
I am a 1st yr commerce student, and right now my sem 2 subjects are: intro macro, principles of management, principles of marketing, and French 2. I would like to change principles of management to business law.. Can I do that?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: bts on February 10, 2016, 10:05:53 pm
Jut wondering can I do a level one subject in year 3 biomed course?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Wackky on February 13, 2016, 09:18:53 pm
Hey everyone! First year at UoM here.
I'm just wondering, since the timetables and subjects are already out and I know what subjects I'm doing for Semester 1, should I be buying my textbooks now? I've already done my research and I know which books are required and which ones I don't really need. I just wanted to know if it would be best to wait until O-week and the orientation starts before purchasing or whether I should just buy them now (Especially since some I've found are really cheap)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: alchemy on February 13, 2016, 09:26:59 pm
Hey everyone! First year at UoM here.
I'm just wondering, since the timetables and subjects are already out and I know what subjects I'm doing for Semester 1, should I be buying my textbooks now? I've already done my research and I know which books are required and which ones I don't really need. I just wanted to know if it would be best to wait until O-week and the orientation starts before purchasing or whether I should just buy them now (Especially since some I've found are really cheap)
Thanks!

Was wondering this as well! My friends going to Monash have already been told what books to purchase, but we haven't?
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: khimberleigh on February 14, 2016, 01:11:27 am
My advice based on 2 years of experience: wait until the first week of uni at least to get an idea of whether or not you're really going to use it. Unless, you find it cheap on ebay etc, (i.e. cheap enough that it won't matter if you don't use it much), in which case order it sooner to account for postage times.

However, things like subject readers, maths lecture notes or prac/lab books you should start to buy now, because the co-op will sell out fast and be very crowded during O-week and the first few weeks of semester. And you will definitely use these.

Check the handbook or co-op website for information on what you need to buy, or the LMS page for your subject when it becomes available. 
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Wackky on February 14, 2016, 11:50:12 am
My advice based on 2 years of experience: wait until the first week of uni at least to get an idea of whether or not you're really going to use it. Unless, you find it cheap on ebay etc, (i.e. cheap enough that it won't matter if you don't use it much), in which case order it sooner to account for postage times.

However, things like subject readers, maths lecture notes or prac/lab books you should start to buy now, because the co-op will sell out fast and be very crowded during O-week and the first few weeks of semester. And you will definitely use these.

Check the handbook or co-op website for information on what you need to buy, or the LMS page for your subject when it becomes available.

Thanks for the information! :) I've read all the subject reviews and information on this forum so I think I have a pretty good idea of what textbooks I'll be using and which ones I don't need. I'm assuming the Lecture Notes are bought from LMS or are they just sold by students from previous years? I'm doing Calculus 1 in Semester 1 and based on what I've read, the Lecture Notes are more than sufficient and the textbook is not needed.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Auralee on February 14, 2016, 01:28:18 pm
I don't really understand what the prac/lab books are. In high school, our teachers "wrote up" our pracs and we just filled in the spaces/lines that there were. Could someone please explain what the idea is behind those prac/lab books and briefly the whole prac report thing? Do we hand the lab books in? Are there templates in this lab book? Idk... clueless.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: cooldude123 on February 14, 2016, 03:02:32 pm
I don't really understand what the prac/lab books are. In high school, our teachers "wrote up" our pracs and we just filled in the spaces/lines that there were. Could someone please explain what the idea is behind those prac/lab books and briefly the whole prac report thing? Do we hand the lab books in? Are there templates in this lab book? Idk... clueless.
At least for physics labs, you're given a lab manual which has guidelines for the pracs but otherwise the lab notebook is for writing down everything that happens during the lab - so you need to write up Aim, Hypothesis, Method, Observations etc. Most people also add a small section of context or theory as well.

It's very much self directed, and there's no set format or template. The demonstrators are just there to (demonstrate experiments) and also ensure you're not doing something really wrong.

You usually have to do everything during the lab session and hand the book in after it ends where it's assessed and returned to you next session.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Auralee on February 14, 2016, 08:53:02 pm
Thanks cooldude123 :-)

Are you allowed to write stuff up then bring it in? (e.g. write your aim, hypothesis etc beforehand)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Stevensmay on February 14, 2016, 09:25:38 pm
Thanks cooldude123 :-)

Are you allowed to write stuff up then bring it in? (e.g. write your aim, hypothesis etc beforehand)

In Physics at least the lab books must remain inside the lab, you can't take it home. I'm pretty sure this applies to the other subjects as well. Realistically you should be able to complete each prac entirely within the allotted time.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: khimberleigh on February 15, 2016, 01:15:45 am
I'm assuming the Lecture Notes are bought from LMS or are they just sold by students from previous years? I'm doing Calculus 1 in Semester 1 and based on what I've read, the Lecture Notes are more than sufficient and the textbook is not needed.

You buy the calculus 1 lecture notes from the co-op. Yeah, I bought the calculus textbook back in first year and opened it maybe once. The lecture notes are sufficient. The lecture notes for calculus 1 are all the power point slides for the semester printed and bound into a book with blank spaces for you to fill in worked examples during lectures. I recommend you buy your own copy rather than get it second hand (they're only $20) because you'll remember the content more if you have to physically write it down yourself.
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Wackky on February 15, 2016, 03:11:47 pm
You buy the calculus 1 lecture notes from the co-op. Yeah, I bought the calculus textbook back in first year and opened it maybe once. The lecture notes are sufficient. The lecture notes for calculus 1 are all the power point slides for the semester printed and bound into a book with blank spaces for you to fill in worked examples during lectures. I recommend you buy your own copy rather than get it second hand (they're only $20) because you'll remember the content more if you have to physically write it down yourself.

Thanks for that clarification, it's much appreciated! I will definitely be purchasing the lecture notes once they are made available  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Calculus on February 20, 2016, 04:54:43 pm
Hi,

I was wondering how a Dean's award works when you are completing a concurrent diploma alongside a bachelor of science. Are your first 100 credit points a combination of both diploma and bachelor if you have completed a mixture? And if you reach 100 credit points during a semester (say you have completed 125 credit points by the end of semester 1) which subjects count?

If you complete 100 credit points in this year's semester one, can you still be considered for the presentation in July?

Also, does anyone know approximately what the WAM cut-off was last year for a Dean's award?

If someone could explain the process to me I would really appreciate it! Sorry about all the questions.

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: stolenclay on February 20, 2016, 06:28:41 pm
I was wondering how a Dean's award works when you are completing a concurrent diploma alongside a bachelor of science.
It looks like the official UoM ATARNotes account has stopped attending to these queries, which is unfortunate because no student really knows the answer to this one.

The Dean's Honours List process for students with a concurrent diploma isn't all that clear; even for normal students undertaking a single bachelor's degree it's confusing. All we can do is read their policy and look for various anecdotal evidence from old students.

Are your first 100 credit points a combination of both diploma and bachelor if you have completed a mixture? And if you reach 100 credit points during a semester (say you have completed 125 credit points by the end of semester 1) which subjects count?
My understanding is this: your Dean's Honours List eligibility will remain the same if you exclude all your diploma-only subjects. If another student in your course
your eligibilities for the Dean's Honours List are exactly the same.

If you complete 100 credit points in this year's semester one, can you still be considered for the presentation in July?
Short answer: no.

Every time you pass another 100 credit points of subjects in your bachelor's degree (which may include subjects cross-credited with the diploma but will certainly not include subjects which were credited towards the diploma only) you are considered for the Dean's Honours List of the year in which you passed the last of those 100 points of subjects, and the presentation occurs in the following year (if there is a presentation at all).

For example, to be considered for the 2015 Level 1 BSc Dean's Honours List (which is presented during the 2016 calendar year), you must have completed the last of the first 100 points of your BSc some time by the end of 2015 Semester 2 but also strictly after the end of 2014 Semester 2.

Lots of things can happen with these. Some examples:
Total BSc points completed by the end of Example 1Example 2Example 3Example 4
2014 Semester 210087.5112.5Hadn't begun degree.
2015 Summer Semester100100112.5Hadn't begun degree.
2015 Semester 1150150162.550
2015 Semester 2200200212.5100
Year considered for BSc Level 1 Dean's Honours List2014 or earlier20152014 or earlier2015
Year considered for BSc Level 2 Dean's Honours List2015201520152016 or later

There are also some other requirements listed in the policy document mentioned above.

More ambiguities surface when you start considering things like the intensive subjects that run in a certain month which may start before an academic semester but finish during an academic semester.

Also, does anyone know approximately what the WAM cut-off was last year for a Dean's award?
Differs wildly from course to course, level to level, and year to year (although it should remain fairly stable within a particular level of a particular course across different years). I can't even guess for BSc, but for BCom it was around 86 for 2014 Level 1. For BBmed it was high as the mid-90s for 2014 Level 1 from what I can recall here on AN.

And here again is another ambiguity: which subjects contribute to your ranking among students when it comes to the Dean's Honours List? It will not include any diploma-only subjects, and it would make sense if it was either the WAM across
Another mystery: what if you had completed 187.5 points by the end of 2015 Summer Semester and passed another 50 points by the end of 2015 Semester 1? How many points of the total 237.5 do you take to calculate the ranking for consideration on the 2015 Level 2 Dean's Honours List? Something like "the first 200 points" no longer makes sense, and neither would "the last 100 points of the first 200 points". So in the end everyone is confused.

Hi,

Unfortunately I couldn't get lecture times on my timetable that suit me perfectly, so I was just wondering whether it is possible to go to lectures at different times to what is on your timetable. Obviously you must attend tutorials and pracs as scheduled on your timetable, but given that lectures are recorded online and not everyone attends them, does this mean that you can attend lectures at different times each week (i.e..is the individual timetable flexible or set in stone regarding lectures)?

Thanks in advance  :)

Lectures are flexible, so yeah you can go to any stream you want. Although you should be polite enough to leave if you somehow take the last empty seat in a lecture theatre and someone else comes in after you looking for a seat (which can happen for big cohorts in small lecture theatres in the early weeks, but you should probably go home and hide under your blanket if your luck is that bad).
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: Calculus on February 20, 2016, 06:58:15 pm
Unfortunately it looks like the official UoM ATARNotes account has stopped attending to these queries, which is unfortunate because no student really knows the answer to this one.

The Dean's Honours List process for students with a concurrent diploma aren't all that clear; even for normal students undertaking a single bachelor's degree it's not that clear. All we can do is read their policy and look for various anecdotal evidence from old students.
My understanding is this: your Dean's Honours List eligibility will remain the same if you exclude all your diploma-only subjects. If another student in your course
  • does all your subjects in the same years and semesters as you, except for the diploma-only ones;
  • doesn't do any subject which you don't do;
  • receives the same grades as you for all their subjects;
your eligibilities for the Dean's Honours List are exactly the same.
Short answer: no.

Every time you pass another 100 credit points of subjects in your bachelor's degree (which may include subjects cross-credited with the diploma but will certainly not include subjects which were credited towards the diploma only) you are considered for the Dean's Honours List of the year in which you passed the last of those 100 points of subjects, and the presentation occurs in the following year (if there is a presentation at all).

For example, to be considered for the 2015 Level 1 BSc Dean's Honours List (which is presented during the 2016 calendar year), you must have completed the last of the first 100 points of your BSc some time by the end of 2015 Semester 2 but also strictly after the end of 2014 Semester 2.

Lots of things can happen with these. Some examples:
Total BSc points completed by the end of Example 1Example 2Example 3Example 4
2014 Semester 210087.5112.5Hadn't begun degree.
2015 Summer Semester100100112.5Hadn't begun degree.
2015 Semester 1150150162.550
2015 Semester 2200200212.5100
Year considered for BSc Level 1 Dean's Honours List2014 or earlier20152014 or earlier2015
Year considered for BSc Level 2 Dean's Honours List2015201520152016 or later

There are also some other requirements listed in the policy document mentioned above.

More ambiguities surface when you start considering things like the intensive subjects that run in a certain month which may start before an academic semester but finish during an academic semester.
Differs wildly from course to course, level to level, and year to year (although it should remain fairly stable within a particular level of a particular course across different years). I can't even guess for BSc, but for BCom it was around 86 for 2014 Level 1. For BBmed it was high as the mid-90s for 2014 Level 1 from what I can recall here on AN.

And here again is another ambiguity: which subjects contribute to your ranking among students when it comes to the Dean's Honours List? It will not include any diploma-only subjects, but aside from that, no one really knows.

Lectures are flexible, so yeah you can go to any stream you want. Although you should be polite enough to leave if you somehow take the last empty seat in a lecture theatre and someone else comes in after you looking for a seat (which can happen for big cohorts in small lecture theatres in the early weeks, but you should probably go home and hide under your blanket if your luck is that bad).

Wow! Thank you so much stolenclay! I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Ask The University of Melbourne
Post by: pi on February 22, 2016, 03:45:31 pm
Given "unimelb" are unable to provide their old service, we're locking and un-stickying this thread to avoid questions being asked here and in the UoM General Chat. Feel free to continue asking questions in the chat thread or alternatively, we also encourage you to create a new thread in the University of Melbourne board.

Have a good one! :)