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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: TheSixthVelociraptor on February 18, 2015, 10:23:13 pm

Title: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: TheSixthVelociraptor on February 18, 2015, 10:23:13 pm
Hey,
After the completion of Biomed, if not MD, what other postgraduate courses can you go into which would still be in the field of of medicine or health?

And if you can, what would the prerequisites for that be? eg GAMSAT

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 18, 2015, 10:32:27 pm
Besides MD at UoM, you have Dentistry, Physiotherapy, Optometry, Veterinary Medicine, Clinical Audiology, Speech Pathology, Nursing, Public Health, and Biomedical research.
I'm pretty sure Dentistry's the only one out of those that require the GAMSAT (not 100% sure though).
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Whynot123 on February 18, 2015, 10:36:37 pm
Besides MD at UoM, you have Dentistry, Physiotherapy, Optometry, Veterinary Medicine, Clinical Audiology, Speech Pathology, Nursing, Public Health, and Biomedical research.
I'm pretty sure Dentistry's the only one out of those that require the GAMSAT (not 100% sure though).

Physiotherapy, Optometry also require GAMSAT. Not sure about the rest.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 18, 2015, 10:43:54 pm
Physiotherapy, Optometry also require GAMSAT. Not sure about the rest.
Really? I read on the Physio website a while back that it doesn't require GAMSAT. I think Optom does though.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Whynot123 on February 18, 2015, 11:02:16 pm
Really? I read on the Physio website a while back that it doesn't require GAMSAT. I think Optom does though.

Ohh sorry, I just checked it as well. It doesn't require the GAMSAT but has an MMI on the other hand, Optom requires GAMSAT but has no MMI O.o
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 18, 2015, 11:47:09 pm
Ohh sorry, I just checked it as well. It doesn't require the GAMSAT but has an MMI on the other hand, Optom requires GAMSAT but has no MMI O.o
Yeah I think they might have changed it or something
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: thushan on February 19, 2015, 05:47:54 am
Also, Monash Parkville offers a graduate pathway into Pharmacy, where if you get in, you do a bridging course and then do Year 3 and Year 4 of the Pharmacy program. Basically, it'll only take 2 years to finish the degree.

http://www.monash.edu/pharm/future/courses/grad-pharmacy/
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Starlight on February 19, 2015, 09:14:07 am
Ohh sorry, I just checked it as well. It doesn't require the GAMSAT but has an MMI on the other hand, Optom requires GAMSAT but has no MMI O.o

They have replaced an interview with a 500 written statement for optometry (however I think I have read that they are able to conduct interviews if it gets very competitive, which is rare)
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: TheSixthVelociraptor on February 19, 2015, 11:07:32 pm
thanks guys :)

long shot question, but how tough is it to get into MD from BMed?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: sjayne on February 19, 2015, 11:32:42 pm
There's also a few other options at La Trobe such as occupational therapy, dietetics and podiatry which you might not necessarily be interested in now but it's good to know your options
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Shenz0r on February 19, 2015, 11:44:49 pm
thanks guys :)

long shot question, but how tough is it to get into MD from BMed?

Depends on where you apply for post-grad. Melbourne is one of the most competitive in the country so you'll have to be very committed and hard-working. Ideally you want the majority of your subjects to be H1 and you want at least 85th-90th percentile in the GAMSAT to have a shot at a CSP. Other schools, such as Deakin or Monash, may be easier to get into.

That being said, I think there are more students in the MD who have a biomed background than those who don't (mainly because biomed students are more neurotic than others). Can't confirm though.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: thushan on February 20, 2015, 06:39:47 am
There's also a few other options at La Trobe such as occupational therapy, dietetics and podiatry which you might not necessarily be interested in now but it's good to know your options

That's true - but keep in mind that those courses (unless you do the combined Bachelors/Masters, which are CSP) are full fee.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: thushan on February 20, 2015, 06:41:44 am
Depends on where you apply for post-grad. Melbourne is one of the most competitive in the country so you'll have to be very committed and hard-working. Ideally you want the majority of your subjects to be H1 and you want at least 85th-90th percentile in the GAMSAT to have a shot at a CSP. Other schools, such as Deakin or Monash, may be easier to get into.

That being said, I think there are more students in the MD who have a biomed background than those who don't (mainly because biomed students are more neurotic than others). Can't confirm though.

The figure I heard was that the MEDIAN GAMSAT score for those who get an interview is 67 (94th percentile) and median GPA 6.7. They interview 150% of the total number of places in the course I think.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Russ on February 20, 2015, 08:20:34 am
Were those numbers from the internet or from someone at an open day or course information day?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Shenz0r on February 20, 2015, 08:25:19 am
Those numbers are from GEMSAS so they're valid. Although I heard that they were the means, not the medians.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Russ on February 20, 2015, 08:59:49 am
Huh, that's quite high. I guess finding out the 10th/90th is also pretty important then, but I guess they haven't published any other information?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 09:09:54 am
Also, Monash Parkville offers a graduate pathway into Pharmacy, where if you get in, you do a bridging course and then do Year 3 and Year 4 of the Pharmacy program. Basically, it'll only take 2 years to finish the degree.

http://www.monash.edu/pharm/future/courses/grad-pharmacy/

is this like undergraduate or post-graduate?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 20, 2015, 09:49:50 am
is this like undergraduate or post-graduate?
You still graduate with the Bachelor of Pharmacy so it's still an undergraduate degree.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 09:55:43 am
You still graduate with the Bachelor of Pharmacy so it's still an undergraduate degree.
Also do I require UMAT? If I do UMAT am I required to do GAMSAT as well or no?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 20, 2015, 10:03:39 am
Also do I require UMAT? If I do UMAT am I required to do GAMSAT as well or no?
Nope No UMAT or GAMSAT, just a 70%WAM in your previous degree
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Shenz0r on February 20, 2015, 10:13:48 am
Huh, that's quite high. I guess finding out the 10th/90th is also pretty important then, but I guess they haven't published any other information?

I should also add that the data from GEMSAS was for the 2013 application cycle, and last year it seemed as if the interview cut offs increased again. Will be waiting for last year's means to come out.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 10:25:01 am
Nope No UMAT or GAMSAT, just a 70%WAM in your previous degree
oh, because I am in year 12 this year so this course doesn't require UMAT? I'm confused
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Reus on February 20, 2015, 10:41:16 am
When do you guys think it's wise to really sit down and practice/study for the GAMSAT?!
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 20, 2015, 10:41:46 am
oh, because I am in year 12 this year so this course doesn't require UMAT? I'm confused
If you're in year 12, for the Bachelor of Pharmacy at Monash parkville, no you don't require the UMAT anymore, you can get into the course straight away.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 10:51:29 am
If you're in year 12, for the Bachelor of Pharmacy at Monash parkville, no you don't require the UMAT anymore, you can get into the course straight away.
woahh that's awesome thankyou, but do I require to do Chemistry? Because I am thinking of dropping it. 
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: AbominableMowman on February 20, 2015, 10:55:56 am
woahh that's awesome thankyou, but do I require to do Chemistry? Because I am thinking of dropping it.
Yes unfortunately, you still need a study score of at least 25 in chemistry, 25 in methods (or spesh) and a 30 in any english other than EAL or a 35 in EAL
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 11:14:16 am
Yes unfortunately, you still need a study score of at least 25 in chemistry, 25 in methods (or spesh) and a 30 in any english other than EAL or a 35 in EAL
For example, I wanted to do a course on dietitian is that consider as medicine or no?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: MelonBar on February 20, 2015, 11:19:32 am
Dietetics is a separate course to medicine so I would say no
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 11:37:57 am
Dietetics is a separate course to medicine so I would say no
so no umat required right?
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: Shenz0r on February 20, 2015, 11:48:38 am
When do you guys think it's wise to really sit down and practice/study for the GAMSAT?!

Maybe start around 2-3 months before the exam.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: MelonBar on February 20, 2015, 11:52:48 am
so no umat required right?

Doesn't look like it judging from a cursory glance around google. Check the dietetics course websites of the unis you are thinking of applying to just in case.
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: kimmytaaa on February 20, 2015, 12:35:12 pm
Doesn't look like it judging from a cursory glance around google. Check the dietetics course websites of the unis you are thinking of applying to just in case.
Ok thankyou
Title: Re: Postgrad Health/Medicine
Post by: thushan on February 20, 2015, 06:35:43 pm
Ah yeah, go with what Shenz0r said.