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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Alter on July 31, 2015, 11:09:40 pm
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Hi all,
From chats in the Class of 2015 forum I can see that there's tons of other like-minded people who do some inter-school debating (that is, formal 3v3 debating such as that offered in DAV), so I figured why not create a thread for all of us to come together. There's tons of topics to discuss and hopefully you can pass on any tips you've come across whatever your level of experience.
I'll just introduce myself a bit. I've been doing DAV debating for about 4-5 years now, and it's by far one of my greatest hobbies. I also participate in a more regional competition (Royal South Street Society Debating) with the same team as in DAV. I'm most experienced as a 2nd speaker, which is probably my favourite role, but I do enjoy some flexibility in going third from time to time when the need arises.
Just some starter questions to get the ball rolling:
What debating positions are you best at and what do you enjoy about them? Do you participate in any other competitions outside of DAV or plan to continue it debating at university? What was you most memorable debating experience?
Have a nice day.
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Yay this thread is good.
My extracurricular life outside of debating in university is very, very limited lol.
I've been debating throughout high school, still do at uni and adjudicate for the DAV (do it, it's good pay!) :D In Uni 2nd speaker is reserved for the most senior member - ie. the 'team leader/pro - so I normally go 1st or 3rd. I am also not very good at debating but I really enjoy it :D In uni, there is also British Parliamentary debating which is as prominent as 3 v 3 debating.
Also, if you like debating and want to try a different type of debating, try ModelUN although it's definitely not as good as debating.
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What debating positions are you best at and what do you enjoy about them? Do you participate in any other competitions outside of DAV or plan to continue it debating at university? What was you most memorable debating experience?
Hey guys! I'm a relative oldie (at least, in comparison to most high schools students) to this, seeing as i've participated in this since year 7 :D
Personally my favourite is 2nd, but i'm pretty flexible.
Only participate in DAV this year, unless you count diplomacy competitions like Evatt, and yeah, uni for sure! (although i do hear UoM has horrible times for uni debating, which might be a hassle).
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My extracurricular life outside of debating in university is very, very limited lol.
Same applies to me, haha. I basically only do soccer and debating.
I've been debating throughout high school, still do at uni and adjudicate for the DAV (do it, it's good pay!) :D In Uni 2nd speaker is reserved for the most senior member - ie. the 'team leader/pro - so I normally go 1st or 3rd. I am also not very good at debating but I really enjoy it :D In uni, there is also British Parliamentary debating which is as prominent as 3 v 3 debating.
I actually am really interested in doing adjudicating next year for DAV! To make it even better, you get paid extra if you do it in regional areas such as Geelong/Ballarat which is definitely useful. I've been helping in my school's year 5/6 debating program and it's a really rewarding experience to see how younger debaters develop their skills and progressively improve, so I'd be happy to adjudicate any year level.
I didn't know that point about the 2nd usually being a team leader, it's quite interesting anyway. I was under the assumption that third is typically seen as the most experienced member and the 'captain', so to speak. (This isn't really true for my team, but I see it a lot regardless).
Also, if you like debating and want to try a different type of debating, try ModelUN although it's definitely not as good as debating.
I haven't actually participated in this, but it could be an option in the future. My brother mentioned seeing a lot of Scotch/Melbourne High kids etc at uni not long ago for the Model UN competition. Something that's also a bit similar is mooting, but I can't say I've done it personally. I see you're doing Arts/Law atm, so have you considered or are you doing mooting? If so, what are your thoughts?
Only participate in DAV this year, unless you count diplomacy competitions like Evatt, and yeah, uni for sure! (although i do hear UoM has horrible times for uni debating, which might be a hassle).
If we both end up at UoM we'll have to form a team together, for sure. Hopefully it just doesn't consume weekend time and I'd be excited to join MUDS.
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Ex-DAV debater checking in.
My extracurricular life outside of debating in university is very, very limited lol.
Do you know my brother? Initials SS and has a filthy beard and is probably an aggressively sounding speaker? Hahaha
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Ex-DAV debater checking in.
Do you know my brother? Initials SS and has a filthy beard and is probably an aggressively sounding speaker? Hahaha
And looks like the brother of a drug dealer. :P
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Did DAV in Year 7/8
What was you most memorable debating experience?
The time I referred to Bart Simpson in my speech and the Adjudicator's name ended up being Bart. Weirdest shit ever.
Also the time an Adjudicator said I was eloquent. Little did she know I'm the biggest pottymouth on the planet.
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Heyy this is a thing :)
What debating positions are you best at and what do you enjoy about them? Do you participate in any other competitions outside of DAV or plan to continue it debating at university? What was you most memorable debating experience
I can do all three. No preference as to which one I get to be honest.
Evatt/Made BP Semis last year/That Scotch competition we were rekt in
Yeah, will plan to continue
When our second made someone from the other side cry (this was when we were in Year 8).
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I just remembered the time my friend cracked it at a parent from the other side who was sitting in the audience for 'smirking' at her. This was in the middle of her speech. Out of nowhere she was like 'I dont know why you are making faces at me and laughing but can you please stop' and said some other rage stuff then continued on in her speech. I only realised later what had happened, I think everyone else was like wut too.
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Unfortunately won't see you guys in the finals, lost to MLC tonight.
Disappointing but they deserved to win and it was fairly adjudicated :/
See you in university :)
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Any chance of going to finals with only 4/5 wins?
We screwed up one but we won all the rest by margins of 3-7 points.
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Any chance of going to finals with only 4/5 wins?
We screwed up one but we won all the rest by margins of 3-7 points.
Possible. Only if every other team loses once then you will go through, otherwise it will be the team with five wins which will advance.
And Hamo, sorry for the bad news. How did the debate go?
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Possible. Only if every other team loses once then you will go through, otherwise it will be the team with five wins which will advance.
And Hamo, sorry for the bad news. How did the debate go?
Not going to complain about the actual debate, we lost fairly.
Topic is a different story, but meh.
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Unfortunately won't see you guys in the finals, lost to MLC tonight.
Ah, bad luck man. What was the topic for you guys, if I may ask? (Assuming I had a different secret topic for round 5 considering mine was like last term)
I'll be sure to eliminate MLC if we get drawn against them at any point in states ;) Speaking of which, does anyone know when states start or perhaps when all regions have finished their 5 preliminary debates?
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Ah, bad luck man. What was the topic for you guys, if I may ask? (Assuming I had a different secret topic for round 5 considering mine was like last term)
I'll be sure to eliminate MLC if we get drawn against them at any point in states ;) Speaking of which, does anyone know when states start or perhaps when all regions have finished their 5 preliminary debates?
That peaceful protesters should respond violently when met with a disproportionate amount of violence/force from the state.
We were aff
It starts in a few weeks
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Rofl I got that topic in round 4 (in May) which was the only round we lost as well. The topic I had in round 5 this year (performance enhancing drugs in sport) was also a D grade topic a couple of years ago.
Good job DAV, keeping the topics fresh as always. ::)
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Is anyone an adjudicator or thinking of attending the adjudicator training sessions?
I'm considering doing it except I'm not too sure what's involved/don't think I'd be good at it.
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Is anyone an adjudicator or thinking of attending the adjudicator training sessions?
I'm considering doing it except I'm not too sure what's involved/don't think I'd be good at it.
you get to judge people, abuse them and make them feel bad for the evening, what's not to like about this?
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Is anyone an adjudicator or thinking of attending the adjudicator training sessions?
I'm considering doing it except I'm not too sure what's involved/don't think I'd be good at it.
I signed up for a session in a few weeks time (not too sure either what you're taught/supposed to do in training but I'll report back on how it goes if you're curious)
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I signed up for a session in a few weeks time (not too sure either what you're taught/supposed to do in training but I'll report back on how it goes if you're curious)
I've signed up for it too!
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I'm going to the one on the 31st!
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Cooldude and apple, which sessions are you going to??
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I think it would be really cool if we can post and discuss topical issues here - basically an online forum debate. Considering everyone on this thread enjoys debating seems like a good idea.
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Cooldude and apple, which sessions are you going to??
The next one which is on the 31st of Jan!
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Well I'm going to the one this Saturday 23rd (they offered an extra one)
Apparently from the website you have to complete a written theory test and adjudicate a debate from a video!
I can just so imagine if you get to judge a secret topic and the topic ends up being something like fracking this year which you don't know about :-\
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Well I'm going to the one this Saturday 23rd (they offered an extra one)
Apparently from the website you have to complete a written theory test and adjudicate a debate from a video!
I can just so imagine if you get to judge a secret topic and the topic ends up being something like fracking this year which you don't know about :-\
The assessment sounds cool haha. Yep, the secret topics....
A friend of mine has been doing tons of adjudicating for the last 5 years on high school, uni and international debating comps-so I can suss out some info for you guys :)
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All the secret topics are pretty common sense tbqh.
The fracking was a prepared topic so all adjudicators will see them in advance.
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Cooldude and apple, which sessions are you going to??
Going to the one on the 6th Feb!
and the topic ends up being something like fracking this year which you don't know about :-\
Fracking was such a fun topic to do even though half the debate was defining what fracking was
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In all honesty, while I love debating, i know i'd probably be a biased adj and therefore probably not gonna sign up in order to not ruin the lives of keen aspiring young debaters who actually take DAV seriously :P
Probably going to coach though
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is anybody here considering doing debating this year? :)
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If anyone else apart from me/appleandbee is going to the session tomorrow at DAV send me a PM. Would love to have a quick meet with fellow adjudicators.