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Title: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Indecisive on January 24, 2016, 02:22:19 pm
 speculations of 5 sacs  and its effect? Providing you do reasonably well in VCE
Can anybody say how much of score /range we can speculate
1.  4A+ 1 A =

2.  3A+  2A =

3.  4 A         =


Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Orson on January 24, 2016, 02:31:14 pm
I can't speak for those exact SAC grades, but SACs do matter. Don't think you can just ace the exam and all will be good, because it won't. SACs and ranks carry massive weight. Try to be as close to rank one as possible and you'll be golden.
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Indecisive on January 24, 2016, 06:42:31 pm
Thanks and found the answers from a vce teacher who is a family friend.

key points

1. Sac can be A or A+ preferably A+ will be ideal.
2. Always check the weight of the particular  Sac.
   some sacs have more percentages and not to mess up with those ones.
3. If you did bad in a Sac which consist  less percentage doesn't mean you can't achieve very high score. 
4. Do your GAT well.

This is for every subject.
   

Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Peanut Butter on January 24, 2016, 06:46:52 pm
just a side note: the GAT can only make your study score better, it cannot make it worse. Doing bad on the GAT will not affect your study score at all (unless you miss the exam and/or require a derived score) :)
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Syndicate on January 24, 2016, 07:15:54 pm
Sac can be A or A+ preferably A+ will be ideal.
A little off-topic question.

Each school has its own different range of grades (eg. 90-100% = A+)(I saw this occur, when I changed my school)

Is there any specific grades to percentage list developed by VCAA?

Thanks
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Peanut Butter on January 24, 2016, 07:23:05 pm
A little off-topic question.

Each school has its own different range of grades (eg. 90-100% = A+)(I saw this occur, when I changed my school)

Is there any specific grades to percentage list developed by VCAA?

Thanks

Have a look at the grade distributions :)

For example, in further maths graded assessment one is SACs. If you look at the grade distribution it says that an A+ is 93-100%

You can find them here: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/statistics/2014/statssect3.aspx
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Indecisive on January 24, 2016, 09:49:25 pm
just a side note: the GAT can only make your study score better, it cannot make it worse. Doing bad on the GAT will not affect your study score at all (unless you miss the exam and/or require a derived score) :)
This is what I have been told by a tutor+school  teacher+assesor .   GAT will play a some effect on study score on particular subject.  Ex. Humanity section- English and humanity subjects
                                     Math section       - Math subjects
                                     Science section  - Science Subjects
will check with other people.

Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Peanut Butter on January 24, 2016, 10:06:00 pm
I did incredibly poor on my GAT (including the maths section) and it did not affect my study score at all :D
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: MightyBeh on January 24, 2016, 11:30:34 pm
The GAT plays a major part in SAC scaling (schoolwide, not really so much individual) - while your marks on the GAT won't actually change your study score, the better your school performs as a whole, the better things are for you. A lot of people make a joke out of it but it's really in your best interest to put in some effort in case things don't work out the way you want down the line.  :)
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Syndicate on January 25, 2016, 01:08:51 am
Tbh I don't really see the point of SACs. I get that they exist because VCAA don't want to base study scores 100% on one exam, but SAC moderation is totally at the mercy of one's (and one's cohort's) performance on the exam. Imo this is quite a circular system and unnecessary. I think there should be 2 exams per subject (one mid-year and one at the end of the year) to ensure that the SS is not solely dependent on one assessment. SACs should be abolished!  ;)

Thanks for giving me a little hope  :)

I just have one more question. As you said, that SAC moderation is dependant on one's cohort and their performance, do you mean something like:

Let's say I achieve a mark of 98% on a SAC, while my cohort's average was 60%. Will I achieve some sort of advantage (in terms of SAC scores) ?

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Indecisive on January 25, 2016, 02:33:50 pm
I'm assuming that the "advantage" you are referring to is the difference between your moderated SAC scores and their moderated SAC scores? ........ to follow, but I hope it helps answer your question!  :)

Yep I think you are on the correct track.. I checked with my English tutor today.  She said the same... so it is better to do the GAT better than neglecting.  It matters always,  :)
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Indecisive on January 25, 2016, 02:42:42 pm
A little off-topic question.

Each school has its own different range of grades (eg. 90-100% = A+)(I saw this occur, when I changed my school)

Is there any specific grades to percentage list developed by VCAA?

Thanks

Each and every sac carry different weight. 
Ex.  We have 5 SACs and weight distribute as follows
      1, 10%
      2.  30%
      3.  20%
      4.  20%
      5.  20%

Maybe this can vary school to school.   I am not sure school sending marks or ranks to the VCCA.   I think it is mark as well as rank.    :)

Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: Indecisive on January 25, 2016, 02:55:28 pm
A little off-topic question. ....



Is there any specific grades to percentage list developed by VCAA?

Thanks

A little off-topic question.



Each and every sac carry different weight. 
Ex.  We have 5 SACs and weight distribute as follows
      1, 10%
      2.  30%
      3.  20%
      4.  20%
      5.  20%

Maybe this can vary school to school.   I am not sure school sending marks or ranks to the VCCA.   I think it is mark as well as rank.    :)
Title: Re: Sacs and its effect?
Post by: MightyBeh on January 25, 2016, 02:58:35 pm
Each and every sac carry different weight. 
Ex.  We have 5 SACs and weight distribute as follows
      1, 10%
      2.  30%
      3.  20%
      4.  20%
      5.  20%

Maybe this can vary school to school.   I am not sure school sending marks or ranks to the VCCA.   I think it is mark as well as rank.    :)
Weighting should be based on the study design. iirc those are right