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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: uranrahabatula on September 05, 2009, 09:41:04 pm

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Post by: uranrahabatula on September 05, 2009, 09:41:04 pm
hello
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 06, 2009, 01:57:06 pm
especially anyone who wants to do engineering later!

I was thinking of doing B.Sci as one of my back-ups if I don't get my first preference.  \

If you're interested in engineering, the B.Eng at UoM is having its last intakes next year so depending if the Melbourne Model doesn't tickle your fancy, you've still got one other option.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 06, 2009, 05:53:20 pm
Me! (Well I'm trying to decide between Arts or Science, but it seems like I'm going to end up with Science)

If for some reason I suddenly lose all interest I previously had in being a psychologist by the time I start Uni, I would most likely pursue Biomedical or Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering. But I highly doubt that's going to happen.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: appianway on September 08, 2009, 06:12:20 pm
Science at Melbourne would be fun, but the only drawback is that they don't have an accelerated/talented students program (unlike most of the other G8s).
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: kurrymuncher on September 08, 2009, 06:16:19 pm
Science at Melbourne would be fun, but the only drawback is that they don't have an accelerated/talented students program (unlike most of the other G8s).

Oh no!
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: methodsboy on September 08, 2009, 06:18:09 pm
especially anyone who wants to do engineering later!
why not just apply for BEng directly?
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: appianway on September 08, 2009, 06:27:48 pm
Science at Melbourne would be fun, but the only drawback is that they don't have an accelerated/talented students program (unlike most of the other G8s).

Oh no!

I just realised how incredibly nerdy my post sounded...

The thing is, I'm looking at a career in research or academia (two competitive fields), so it's imperative that I get relevant experience in my undergraduate degree. Although I do like the buildings at Melbourne...
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: AppleXY on September 11, 2009, 01:43:40 pm
Is Eng only going to be postgrad after '10?

Wtf is Melb doing?!? They're basically removing all ugrad degrees LOL
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: squance on September 11, 2009, 02:32:33 pm
Is Eng only going to be postgrad after '10?

Wtf is Melb doing?!? They're basically removing all ugrad degrees LOL

Ya.
Melbourne Model = 6 New Generation undergraduate degrees
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 11, 2009, 09:03:27 pm
Is Eng only going to be postgrad after '10?

Wtf is Melb doing?!? They're basically removing all ugrad degrees LOL

Ya.
Melbourne Model = 6 New Generation undergraduate degrees

That's the problem I find with the Melbourne Model.  Just saying, "6 New Generation undergraduate degrees" makes me think that the model lacks "substance" and "depth" for some reason.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: AppleXY on September 11, 2009, 11:05:34 pm
Is Eng only going to be postgrad after '10?

Wtf is Melb doing?!? They're basically removing all ugrad degrees LOL

Ya.
Melbourne Model = 6 New Generation undergraduate degrees

That's the problem I find with the Melbourne Model.  Just saying, "6 New Generation undergraduate degrees" makes me think that the model lacks "substance" and "depth" for some reason.

Me too. It like shortens the mission of a university, i dnno. Stupid Model, it only works in the US because they obtain adequate funding from students and have fully developed faculties with few shortcomings. 
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: mark_alec on September 12, 2009, 01:23:14 am
It like shortens the mission of a university, i dnno.
What exactly is the mission of a university.

And people should also note that Europe is also moving towards the US-system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_process - so the Melbourne Model isn't that strange in the world of higher education.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: AppleXY on September 12, 2009, 01:58:53 am
It like shortens the mission of a university, i dnno.
What exactly is the mission of a university.

And people should also note that Europe is also moving towards the US-system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_process - so the Melbourne Model isn't that strange in the world of higher education.

Informally, I just thought that unis should expand their horizons and include as many as degrees as possible for undergraduates. But then again, PG degrees are much more useful than UGs lol
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: QuantumJG on September 14, 2009, 09:27:37 pm
Science at Melbourne would be fun, but the only drawback is that they don't have an accelerated/talented students program (unlike most of the other G8s).

If you get a 35+ for spesh and physics you can do physics advanced and if you get a 38 for spesh you can do accelerated maths.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: appianway on September 14, 2009, 10:22:19 pm
Problem is, I didn't have room in my academic program for spesh.

My parents thought that I should do French instead.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: QuantumJG on September 20, 2009, 12:13:11 am
"If you get a 35+ for spesh and physics you can do physics advanced and if you get a 38 for spesh you can do accelerated maths."

does this mean you have to get the 35 in BOTH spesh and physics?

yes. To do advanced physics you need a 35 in both, but, they will make exceptions. E.g. I pushed (since I didn't get 35+ for spesh) to go into physics advanced because I thought it would be more academically stimulating (which it is)
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: Mxbn0 on October 03, 2009, 02:11:56 pm
hmm, if im getting 35's to 38's out of 40 for my spec sacs, whats my most likely study score range?

im thinking of doing BSc at Melb next year too, and ive got BE down as 2nd pref. i dunno if i want to be pushed very much in the first year, as id want to work more than study to set me up for a masters :)
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: vexx on October 13, 2009, 05:16:31 pm
the problem with the undergrad courses i reckon for some it'd be very hard to get a high GPA if your mainly science based and doing science w/ breadth subjects that aren't sciencey <-- will bring down GPA. that's why i'm starting to move away from wanting to go to melbourne. anyone have similar thoughts?
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: mark_alec on October 13, 2009, 07:38:56 pm
People don't care much about GPA here. If you intend on further study in science, institutions will only really care about the relevant subjects (the science ones.)
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: vexx on October 13, 2009, 08:23:57 pm
People don't care much about GPA here. If you intend on further study in science, institutions will only really care about the relevant subjects (the science ones.)

not really, as things like medicine is your GPA of everything over your entire degree.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: QuantumJG on October 23, 2009, 07:56:06 pm
hmm, if im getting 35's to 38's out of 40 for my spec sacs, whats my most likely study score range?

im thinking of doing BSc at Melb next year too, and ive got BE down as 2nd pref. i dunno if i want to be pushed very much in the first year, as id want to work more than study to set me up for a masters :)

if you are getting those kinds of SAC marks a 35 raw would definately be possible (good mark I was aiming for a 35), it depends on your cohort, if a lot of people in your cohort do really well in the exam your study score will go up.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: mark_alec on October 24, 2009, 12:50:47 am
People don't care much about GPA here. If you intend on further study in science, institutions will only really care about the relevant subjects (the science ones.)
not really, as things like medicine is your GPA of everything over your entire degree.
Umm, not really relevant. Entrance requirements into the Master of Science at UoM are a 65% average in your major.
Title: Re: Anyone for Science Melbourne after 2010 year 12?
Post by: QuantumJG on November 08, 2009, 10:16:31 am
People don't care much about GPA here. If you intend on further study in science, institutions will only really care about the relevant subjects (the science ones.)
not really, as things like medicine is your GPA of everything over your entire degree.
Umm, not really relevant. Entrance requirements into the Master of Science at UoM are a 65% average in your major.

I went to the master of science course info session. I asked a question like is it harder to get good marks in second year and third year and they said no and it actually can increase. I said ok I think a 65% average should be manageable and they said if you got 65% we would tell you to work really hard if you expect to finish your masters. The breadth subject did kill my GPA for first semester and so did engineering (I thought I would give it a go but I hated engineering).

I personally want to go into academia.