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Title: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Calebark on April 26, 2017, 02:05:03 pm: This is a topic which has sparked debate and violence for millenia...

Is a hot dog a sandwich?

I'll start: yes. It is a filling (the hot dog) with bread on both sides (the bun).
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 26, 2017, 03:09:48 pm: Surely not srs?

The Hotdog is a cousin of the sandwich, part of the Roll genus of bread species ;)
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: heids on April 26, 2017, 04:03:39 pm: A sandwich is made of two (or more, if you're snobbish) separate pieces of bread with filling between them. So clearly hot dogs are not sandwiches.
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Calebark on April 26, 2017, 04:12:06 pm: These aren't mutually exclusive.

If you get a hot dog and place it between two pieces of bread, is it noth both a hot dog and a sandwich?
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: heids on April 26, 2017, 04:20:26 pm: It's not exactly either tbh.

It's not a sandwich because the filling is supposed to be spread out evenly/flatly, and it just isn't a hot dog because you have to wrap a sausage in bread for that.

Anyone who eats a sausage with two pieces of bread, unless they've sliced cold sausage, is a bogan and I hereby relegate them to purgatory eternally.
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: zhen on April 26, 2017, 04:29:27 pm: Using my trusty pal google I found this definition. A sandwich is an item of food consisting of two pieces of bread with a filling between them, eaten as a light meal. So, since hot dogs typically consist of one piece of bread, it isn't a sandwich.
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 26, 2017, 04:50:28 pm: Quote from: heids on April 26, 2017, 04:20:26 pm
It's not exactly either tbh.

It's not a sandwich because the filling is supposed to be spread out evenly/flatly, and it just isn't a hot dog because you have to wrap a sausage in bread for that.

Anyone who eats a sausage with two pieces of bread, unless they've sliced cold sausage, is a bogan and I hereby relegate them to purgatory eternally.

Where do you stand on one piece of bread folded over? ;D
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: sweetiepi on April 26, 2017, 05:19:17 pm: Hot dogs $\neq$ sandwiches. That is all. :)
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Joseph41 on April 26, 2017, 06:36:59 pm: You know what?

In the broader scheme of things, a hot dog is definitely sandwichy. Like, it's absolutely more sandwichy than, say, a chair.

That's what you were asking, right?

;D
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: brenden on April 26, 2017, 06:41:54 pm: Okay but like, OP's argument was that if you had it like this:

Quote from: Calebark on April 26, 2017, 04:12:06 pm
These aren't mutually exclusive.

If you get a hot dog and place it between two pieces of bread, is it noth both a hot dog and a sandwich?

So that's:

BREAD
sausage
BREAD

Then that's a sandwich, claims the OP. Two breads, one sausage.

Y'all are saying a sausage isn't a sandwich becuase there's only one piece of bread, but OP is saying "fk u guys" and putting his sausage between two distinct slices of bread.

My contention is that EVEN IF you do put a sausage in between two pieces of bread, it's STILL not a sandwich, because the surface area/width of the sausage hardly constitutes a filling. Like, it's not like if you put a BBQ'd patty in between bread and you've got yourself a rissole sandwich, because a rissole actually takes up a fair chunk of the bread's surface area, but when all you've got is a stupid meat stick and some sauce, it's a downright offence to the nation to go ahead and call it a sandwich.

But even if you did just use a hot-dog bun. It's not a sandwich, because it's a bloody hot dog. Which is definitionally not a sandwich....... because it's a hot dog!
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 26, 2017, 06:51:47 pm: Quote from: brenden on April 26, 2017, 06:41:54 pm
My contention is that EVEN IF you do put a sausage in between two pieces of bread, it's STILL not a sandwich, because the surface area/width of the sausage hardly constitutes a filling.

That's a famous result from the great Mathematician, Sam Widge:

$\frac{A_\text{filling}}{A_\text{bread}}\ge0.7\implies \mathbb{F}=\text{Sandwich} \ \ \ \ \forall\ \mathbb{F}>0.2\times\left(\text{Sandwich Width}\right)$
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Joseph41 on April 26, 2017, 06:53:47 pm: Quote from: brenden on April 26, 2017, 06:41:54 pm
Okay but like, OP's argument was that if you had it like this:

So that's:

BREAD
sausage
BREAD

Then that's a sandwich, claims the OP. Two breads, one sausage.

Y'all are saying a sausage isn't a sandwich becuase there's only one piece of bread, but OP is saying "fk u guys" and putting his sausage between two distinct slices of bread.

My contention is that EVEN IF you do put a sausage in between two pieces of bread, it's STILL not a sandwich, because the surface area/width of the sausage hardly constitutes a filling. Like, it's not like if you put a BBQ'd patty in between bread and you've got yourself a rissole sandwich, because a rissole actually takes up a fair chunk of the bread's surface area, but when all you've got is a stupid meat stick and some sauce, it's a downright offence to the nation to go ahead and call it a sandwich.

But even if you did just use a hot-dog bun. It's not a sandwich, because it's a bloody hot dog. Which is definitionally not a sandwich....... because it's a hot dog!

Bro, you're reading it wrong.

A hot dog isn't just a sausage, because, well, that's just a sausage! A hot dog is a sausage in a hot dog bun. So really, the OP was arguing:

BREAD
SAUSAUGE IN HOT DOG BUN
BREAD

And I think we can all agree that that's just a whole lot of carbs.

But definitely a sandwich (just a fkn weird one).
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Joseph41 on April 26, 2017, 06:54:31 pm: Quote from: jamonwindeyer on April 26, 2017, 06:51:47 pm
That's a famous result from the great Mathematician, Sam Widge:

$\frac{A_\text{filling}}{A_\text{bread}}\ge0.7\implies \mathbb{F}=\text{Sandwich} \ \ \ \ \forall\ \mathbb{F}>0.2\times\left(\text{Sandwich Width}\right)$

I love it when you talk all mathsy.
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: brenden on April 27, 2017, 10:27:52 am: Quote from: Joseph41 on April 26, 2017, 06:53:47 pm

BREAD
SAUSAUGE IN HOT DOG BUN
BREAD
You've literally just invented the most disgusting thing in the entire world.
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: spectroscopy on April 27, 2017, 11:54:39 am: Technically speaking, a hot dog is a type of sausage. So when asked if a hot dog is a sandwich, the answer is unequivocally no, it is a form of sausage originating from Frankfurt. It just so happens that when we want to eat or order a hot dog, the customary method of serving is inside bread roll, but 'hot dog' ISN'T the name of the whole bread+sausage+sauce, hot dog just refers to the meat, with the bread and sauce being how it is customarily served. There are places where you can order a 'hot dog' and all you get is a hot dog skewered on a stick (at festivals and stuff). so i think the question itself is flawed. if you ask someone whats the different between a bunnings snag and a hot dog, the difference is the meat, not the bread/how it is served. so hot dog definitely just refers to the meat, so the question of whether a hot dog is a sandwich is mute.
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: K888 on April 27, 2017, 12:13:07 pm: A hot dog in bread is a hot dog, a sausage in bread is a sausage, and a sandwich is a sandwich. They're entirely different things.
Also, generally a sandwich might have something that resembles healthy food (such as lettuce, carrot, beetroot, or cucumber, etc.) within it, whereas a hot dog is just a cheap way to clog your arteries
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Joseph41 on April 28, 2017, 01:29:57 pm: Quote from: K888 on April 27, 2017, 12:13:07 pm
A hot dog in bread is a hot dog, a sausage in bread is a sausage

But like, what's the difference between a hot dog and a sausage?
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Coffee on May 01, 2017, 07:24:05 am: This is a hotdog
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Hot_dog_with_mustard.png/1200px-Hot_dog_with_mustard.png)

This is a sausage in bread
(http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/image/6966184-3x2-340x227.jpg)

This is a sandwich
(http://thesandwichguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sandwich.jpg)
Title: Re: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Post by: Rasika on May 22, 2017, 07:34:24 pm: It is delicious either way hahahaha