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HSC Stuff => HSC History => HSC Humanities Stuff => HSC Subjects + Help => HSC Modern History => Topic started by: jakesilove on August 03, 2017, 02:24:23 pm
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Hey everyone! Hope you made it through the paper without shedding too many tears :) How did you find the paper? Did you study the right content?
Papers were required to be held until today (Thursday 17th) so we can now chat about the questions and the approaches we took. However, please do not share copies of the exam or anything similar!
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I found it alright over all...pheww :D
but i dont know if i really wrote enough...my essays were only about 4andabit pages long..... :(
and my brain was fried from the maths exam! :'( :o
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Oh and also (hope this is alright to post and doesn't give away too much?), interesting to note that the Usefulness question did not ask for your own knowledge....I thought this was always a part of this question but maybe i'm wrong........?
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I found it alright over all...pheww :D
but i dont know if i really wrote enough...my essays were only about 4andabit pages long..... :(
and my brain was fried from the maths exam! :'( :o
Yay! I'm sure you absolutely smashed it :) I'm sure so many people were in the same boat with maths, so don't worry too much about that. Such a stupid, stupid, stupid decision to put two super popular subjects on the same day - but no worries, it's done!
Oh and also (hope this is alright to post and doesn't give away too much?), interesting to note that the Usefulness question did not ask for your own knowledge....I thought this was always a part of this question but maybe i'm wrong........?
The 10 marker never includes it in the question, as it is more focused on the construction and nature of the source, than the actual content presented! However, it is always a good idea to include it within your responses, as a way to not only demonstrate your wider knowledge, but also as a way to verify the accuracy and reliability of a source (though your cross reference of content) :)
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Yay! I'm sure you absolutely smashed it :) I'm sure so many people were in the same boat with maths, so don't worry too much about that. Such a stupid, stupid, stupid decision to put two super popular subjects on the same day - but no worries, it's done!
The 10 marker never includes it in the question, as it is more focused on the construction and nature of the source, than the actual content presented! However, it is always a good idea to include it within your responses, as a way to not only demonstrate your wider knowledge, but also as a way to verify the accuracy and reliability of a source (though your cross reference of content) :)
hopefully i'v gone alright coz i reallly needed to bring my rank up!! fingers crossed!
ohh ok....that explains it then! - i did try and add some of my own knowledge, but not sure how well it linked
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I found it alright over all...pheww :D
but i dont know if i really wrote enough...my essays were only about 4andabit pages long..... :(
and my brain was fried from the maths exam! :'( :o
What is the question on "conflict in Europe"?? Plz help I'm in crisis
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What is the question on "conflict in Europe"?? Plz help I'm in crisis
hey man! Unfortunately we cannot allow exact questions to be posted, as there are many students who haven't sat the exam yet/it's a breach of copyright :( If you need any help with anything, be sure to let us know! Happy to help if you're struggling to understand anything :)
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i was definitely anticipating some really terrible questions, but it turned out to be quite alright, considering i had maths in the morning. the questions were fine and i'm pretty happy with how it all went (i filled up the writing booklet)! i guess the ww1 section i wasn't really a fan of and had to read over the sources a couple of times to understand them but yea that's pretty much it
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Last night I was literally questioning whether I would be able to pass the exam, but I found that the questions were really well suited to my strongest points of knowledge! :D (Our teacher also gave us some vague hints at the last minute lol) I ended up forgetting a lot of the quotes/dates/evidence that I had prepared but I'm just proud to have made it through two three-hour exams in one day. My hand and shoulders are super sore though... I guess I gotta work on posture and pen grip :-\
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Overall it was quite a wonderful exam. The MC was all pretty straight forward. Essays were quite nice for Germany and Conflict in Europe. I can't really complain hey I felt like I had enough time for everything cause I really powered through the Conflict question.
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Yeah the sources were a bit weird and I had trouble understanding some of the words. The questions were alright. I found the Russia one the hardest . I'm pretty happy with how I went considering I didn't have much time to study. My hand was really sore after. Just glad to get through this and maths.
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yaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy!!! it's over ;D ;D
considering my severe lack of study for this exam...i thought the questions for the essays were pretty kind ;)
there were a lot of "yessss" and "pheewww" going round the room in reading time so any1 who hasnt done it yet......i say it was a heck of a lot better than wot i was expecting! but i definitely need to brush up on my time management skills, didnt get time to finish all my answers which is crap but oh well the whole point of the 'trial' :)
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hey!!!
HARDEST EXAM OVERRR!!! YAYYYY!!!
i didnt mind the Germany and personality question but felt like i stuffed up majorly in the Conflict in the pacific ques!! but that is solely due to my lack of study on that topic! :( :( :( :(
Thanks Susie for all your help and tips!! :)
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I was really surprised that I wasn't rushing for time haha! Got WW1 over in around 30 mins and Speer in 40 mins or so and so was able to pump out 8.5 pages on Germany and 9 on the Pacific so really happy there and got a question for each that I was pretty comfortable with :) Jake and Susie, I realised I made a couple of errors with the stats I provided eg. I wrote 26% unemployment rate instead of 6 million unemployed by 1932 after the depression in germany I do not know why haha - is this at all believable and would they take marks off for it haha, and same for the political votes i put from may 1929 to july 1931 but it was july 1932 so same question in terms of losing marks! WW1 multiple choice was easy but didn't really like the part of the syllabus the 10 marker tested you on but all in all a very fair exam!
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i was definitely anticipating some really terrible questions, but it turned out to be quite alright, considering i had maths in the morning. the questions were fine and i'm pretty happy with how it all went (i filled up the writing booklet)! i guess the ww1 section i wasn't really a fan of and had to read over the sources a couple of times to understand them but yea that's pretty much it
That's great fantasticbeasts3! I'm so glad that you found the paper managable (though unsurprised, because I know you worked super hard :) ). Good job on filling up the writing booklet as well! The CSSA sources are always a bitch aha, so I'm not surprised that you had to read over them quite a few times, but that's all good - GREAT WORK!
Last night I was literally questioning whether I would be able to pass the exam, but I found that the questions were really well suited to my strongest points of knowledge! :D (Our teacher also gave us some vague hints at the last minute lol) I ended up forgetting a lot of the quotes/dates/evidence that I had prepared but I'm just proud to have made it through two three-hour exams in one day. My hand and shoulders are super sore though... I guess I gotta work on posture and pen grip :-\
That's so awesome! Always feels great opening an exam and realising that it actually makes sense aha. Don't worry too much about forgetting the quotes and dates - you won't lose a mark specifically for those, it's just that it contributes overall to your level of detail, which yes, you do want a lot of, but one of two quotes/dates going a miss is all good ;) You should definitely be super proud of yourself for getting through two exams - particularly two exams that are known to be hella difficult. Go you!
Overall it was quite a wonderful exam. The MC was all pretty straight forward. Essays were quite nice for Germany and Conflict in Europe. I can't really complain hey I felt like I had enough time for everything cause I really powered through the Conflict question.
That's sooo good! I love hearing that many of you feel really positive about the exam :) Good job with your time management, that is usually what trips up a lot of people in trials, as it is their first 3 hour exam experience for modern! Awesome work Primallis!
Yeah the sources were a bit weird and I had trouble understanding some of the words. The questions were alright. I found the Russia one the hardest . I'm pretty happy with how I went considering I didn't have much time to study. My hand was really sore after. Just glad to get through this and maths.
That's definitely very common with the CSSA paper. I know the Russia questions from my students - obviously can't post them here, but kinda surprised that one of the topics was included, and annoyed at the wording of the other... literally could have made it so simple if they just changed the wording of two words (it would have been pretty much the exact same question as I got last year for Trials!). But yay! You got through it, and I'm sure you did amazing :) CSSA is definitely worse than HSC, so the worst is over ;)
yaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy!!! it's over ;D ;D
considering my severe lack of study for this exam...i thought the questions for the essays were pretty kind ;)
there were a lot of "yessss" and "pheewww" going round the room in reading time so any1 who hasnt done it yet......i say it was a heck of a lot better than wot i was expecting! but i definitely need to brush up on my time management skills, didnt get time to finish all my answers which is crap but oh well the whole point of the 'trial' :)
YAY!! Good work bun00!! So happy to hear that you all found it to be a decent paper - that is very rare in Modern aha. Don't worry about not finishing all the questions - as you said this is just a trial, and i'm sure you still got down some great points that'll grab you a heap of marks anyway :)
hey!!!
HARDEST EXAM OVERRR!!! YAYYYY!!!
i didnt mind the Germany and personality question but felt like i stuffed up majorly in the Conflict in the pacific ques!! but that is solely due to my lack of study on that topic! :( :( :( :(
Thanks Susie for all your help and tips!! :)
YAYYYY!!! NOW YOU CAN RELAXXX (until the next exam aha ;))
Thats awesome that you didn't mind the national and personality study! They're two of the hardest sections, so great work there! Don't worry too much about the Conflict question - it's very rare to leave an exam feeling confident in all sections (I know I never did - it was my Conflict question that I left the HSC feeling the most insecure about!). I'm sure you didn't do as badly as you think you did, as we over amplify our faults after exams - but even so, just take it as a learning experience, maybe you need to focus a bit more on your Conflict study next time round :)
Good work droodsh - the worst of it is over! I found HSC so much easier than CSSA.
I was really surprised that I wasn't rushing for time haha! Got WW1 over in around 30 mins and Speer in 40 mins or so and so was able to pump out 8.5 pages on Germany and 9 on the Pacific so really happy there and got a question for each that I was pretty comfortable with :) Jake and Susie, I realised I made a couple of errors with the stats I provided eg. I wrote 26% unemployment rate instead of 6 million unemployed by 1932 after the depression in germany I do not know why haha - is this at all believable and would they take marks off for it haha, and same for the political votes i put from may 1929 to july 1931 but it was july 1932 so same question in terms of losing marks! WW1 multiple choice was easy but didn't really like the part of the syllabus the 10 marker tested you on but all in all a very fair exam!
That's so good! Great work on the time management - that is usually what trips people up in these exams, so so great that you've already got that covered! Insane that you managed to finish the personality study in 40 mins! Took me almost an hour in HSC (leaving me only 30 minutes for Cold War - most stressful 30 mins of my life). That is so good, i'm really impressed by that ahaha. Two incorrect stats shouldn't really affect your mark. Like it won't be a mark lost per incorrect stat, they might just not include it in your bank of detail, which if you have enough of it anyway, won't even matter :)
So glad that you found the exam fair, though I'm not surprised, given the insane amount of preparation you've done dancing phalanges! You deserved to have a great exam experience - fantastic work!!
GREAT WORK ALL OF YOU!!! You've got over the biggest hurdle, in my opinion, when it comes to modern history. I found the HSC exam much more accessible than the CSSA, as did many of my friends last year. So pleased that most of you found the paper to be fair, and that you feel as though you answered the questions well, but even if you didn't find it "easy", or feel as though you didn't do your best in some sections don't worry! I'm sure you did fine, but even so, it's only trials - in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter, just use this exam as a learning experience. Maybe you need to study this section more, or work on time management - all valuable information to have going into studying now for the HSC exam!
Good luck for the rest of your trial exams, I'm sure you'll absolutely smash em!!
Susie
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i know i am a bit late... haha, but oh well!! :D
personally, i found the exam WAY better than what i was expecting.... ;D ;D
i literally went in there thinking that i would get totally stumped due to my lack of study and my TERRIBLE maths exam just an hour before.... >:( >:( :o
buuuut, although the q's were a little narrow and i struggled to write more than 4 pages on each, it was def better than what i thought!!
SOOO GLAD ITS OVER>> 1 more to go!! ;D ;D :D
~BK~
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i know i am a bit late... haha, but oh well!! :D
personally, i found the exam WAY better than what i was expecting.... ;D ;D
i literally went in there thinking that i would get totally stumped due to my lack of study and my TERRIBLE maths exam just an hour before.... >:( >:( :o
buuuut, although the q's were a little narrow and i struggled to write more than 4 pages on each, it was def better than what i thought!!
SOOO GLAD ITS OVER>> 1 more to go!! ;D ;D :D
~BK~
YAY! Great job ~BK~! So glad you think the exam went well :D Sorry about maths not going as well as you hoped, though I'm sure you've done better than you expect ;) Congratulations! What and when is your last exam?
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YAY! Great job ~BK~! So glad you think the exam went well :D Sorry about maths not going as well as you hoped, though I'm sure you've done better than you expect ;) Congratulations! What and when is your last exam?
Thanks so much for the encouragement ;) ;D
my last exam is business studies on tuesday... probably the one i am least worried about as well.... ;) :D
is there a forum on that in atarnotes??! :D
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Thanks so much for the encouragement ;) ;D
my last exam is business studies on tuesday... probably the one i am least worried about as well.... ;) :D
is there a forum on that in atarnotes??! :D
No worries! So glad I could help :) A fantastic! More than enough time to prepare then :) There is a forum for business!! Click forum, then HSC, then humanities stuff, and you can find it there!!
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has anyone gotten their trial for modern back? it's quite quick, but i got mine back today, and wanted to know if anyone else did (i had to hand back the paper because of the security period though). if so, how'd you go?
posting in this thread because i don't think it fits in the modern question thread... or maybe it does, but this is a trial discussion soooo
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has anyone gotten their trial for modern back? it's quite quick, but i got mine back today, and wanted to know if anyone else did (i had to hand back the paper because of the security period though). if so, how'd you go?
posting in this thread because i don't think it fits in the modern question thread... or maybe it does, but this is a trial discussion soooo
Wow your history department is on the ball, that's so good! You happy with how you went?
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Wow your history department is on the ball, that's so good! You happy with how you went?
it's the one teacher who teaches both modern and ancient, and he tends to mark really fast, so it's good, but bad, because i hate getting marks back. i'm pretty happy with how i went, except for the personality study, which was my worst section. i don't know how to improve it, so do you have any tips? (i consistently get 7/10 for part a and i have no idea why because it asks to describe or outline and i feel like i do that but i always get get 7???)
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it's the one teacher who teaches both modern and ancient, and he tends to mark really fast, so it's good, but bad, because i hate getting marks back. i'm pretty happy with how i went, except for the personality study, which was my worst section. i don't know how to improve it, so do you have any tips? (i consistently get 7/10 for part a and i have no idea why because it asks to describe or outline and i feel like i do that but i always get get 7???)
The main distinguisher for that section is detail. So basically knowing your dates, key terminology and specific events. Although a describe question is lower order, the amount of marks given requires a bit more depth.
Also, are you sure the three events you chose were from the rise to prominence? Some people from my school didn't really know the syllabus, so used their three events from the wrong part of our personalities life. If you didn't do that, then I feel it may just be detail that is lacking. Feel free to post it up so Susie and I can give feedback :)
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The main distinguisher for that section is detail. So basically knowing your dates, key terminology and specific events. Although a describe question is lower order, the amount of marks given requires a bit more depth.
Also, are you sure the three events you chose were from the rise to prominence? Some people from my school didn't really know the syllabus, so used their three events from the wrong part of our personalities life. If you didn't do that, then I feel it may just be detail that is lacking. Feel free to post it up so Susie and I can give feedback :)
ahh right that makes sense! i always forget a lot of detail i've written in my notes but that's an issue that can be fixed :-) i memorised the syllabus for everything except ww1 (sad, i know, the syllabus is important there) so i put down the correct events for rise to prominence, but probably added some unnecessary stuff from background because i felt my response wasn't long enough 😅
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ahh right that makes sense! i always forget a lot of detail i've written in my notes but that's an issue that can be fixed :-) i memorised the syllabus for everything except ww1 (sad, i know, the syllabus is important there) so i put down the correct events for rise to prominence, but probably added some unnecessary stuff from background because i felt my response wasn't long enough 😅
In a Part A response, it most likely is the detail that you are getting stuck on in terms of marks. I recommend checking out this thread, which outlines a fantastic way to memorise detail!