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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: phanphy on October 27, 2009, 07:04:11 pm
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Given reasonably high (A+) SAC results for units 3 & 4...
What mark /30 would get you a 45?
27, 28?
thanks.
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yeah aproximately 27.
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What really? now i don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Do you reckon you'd be able to score a 9 or 10 if the piece isn't fully finished. like a conclusion off? clearly i'm having time issues
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What really? now i don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Do you reckon you'd be able to score a 9 or 10 if the piece isn't fully finished. like a conclusion off? clearly i'm having time issues
i'm assuming out of /10?
there's no way you could that high score on your essay if you don't have a conclusion..hehe sorry..
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What really? now i don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Do you reckon you'd be able to score a 9 or 10 if the piece isn't fully finished. like a conclusion off? clearly i'm having time issues
i'm assuming out of /10?
there's no way you could that high score on your essay if you don't have a conclusion..hehe sorry..
I'm pretty sure in things like language analysis the conclusion is not a large determining factor in your mark (generally only 3-4 sentences of summing things up and closing off). I'm pretty sure you can get a 10 if the rest is very good and the conclusion is short or not very helpful
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oh really? my teacher told us that you cannot do well without a good conclusion, i'm thinking more text response.
she took off about 5 marks (out of 30) from my friend's essay for not doing a conclusion.><
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oh really? my teacher told us that you cannot do well without a good conclusion, i'm thinking more text response.
she took off about 5 marks (out of 30) from my friend's essay for not doing a conclusion.><
You also have to keep in mind, a conclusion for example is automatically worth lets say 5/20 etc, it doesn't work like that. It all comes down to the OVERALL piece.
I went to a lecture, and the lecturer was an assessor she said "dont do conclusions for analysis" they sound stupid, don't really do anything, and many people stuffed up their piece because if a poor conclusion.
But my teacher said in PREVIOUS study designs they didnt have to do one, but she said we should do one because it's a formality/convention
And now I am confused, LOL, both have valid arguments, in my opinion, a conclusion for analysis does sound boring and irrelevant, i literally write rubbish.
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oh really? my teacher told us that you cannot do well without a good conclusion, i'm thinking more text response.
she took off about 5 marks (out of 30) from my friend's essay for not doing a conclusion.><
You also have to keep in mind, a conclusion for example is automatically worth lets say 5/20 etc, it doesn't work like that. It all comes down to the OVERALL piece.
The conlcusion is only for completeness in LA, assessors don't take it seriously
I went to a lecture, and the lecturer was an assessor she said "dont do conclusions for analysis" they sound stupid, don't really do anything, and many people stuffed up their piece because if a poor conclusion.
But my teacher said in PREVIOUS study designs they didnt have to do one, but she said we should do one because it's a formality/convention
And now I am confused, LOL, both have valid arguments, in my opinion, a conclusion for analysis does sound boring and irrelevant, i literally write rubbish.
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What I tend to do with my language analysis conclusions is recap what I believe to be the most persuasive aspect of both the visual and the article, before mentioning which out of the two was more persuasive as a whole - just to give it something.
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What I tend to do with my language analysis conclusions is recap what I believe to be the most persuasive aspect of both the visual and the article, before mentioning which out of the two was more persuasive as a whole - just to give it something.
But that's the thing. I do that as well, recap which were the most persuasive, however I have ALREADY discussed how they are persuasive/why in my BODY, so i feel that I am merely repeating myself. But you are right.
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Particularly for language analysis, if I had to sacrifice a conclusion due to time constraints I wouldn't think it was the end of the world.
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Yeah my conclusion for language analysis is always just recapping what I've already said and the main intention of the author. Pretty boring stuff.
I think it is more important to have a conclusion in text response. The reason being that you do have to bring all your points together. Also your text response conclusion will be longer than your language analysis one.
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I agree, my lang analysis conclusions are generally only 1-2 brief sentences.
it's not crucial, depends on the quality of the piece itself.
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What really? now i don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Do you reckon you'd be able to score a 9 or 10 if the piece isn't fully finished. like a conclusion off? clearly i'm having time issues
A guy at my school last year didn't write a conclusion on his last essay (ran out of time) and got 47, so you can still score high if your proness is pro. (:
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I conclude a language analysis by analysing how the author concludes. I find that an actual conclusion sounds too repeated and unnecessary.
EDIT: Wooo. 400th post :)
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I conclude a language analysis by analysing how the author concludes. I find that an actual conclusion sounds too repeated and unnecessary.
Yeah this. I don't even bother with a seperate conclusion, makes it seem clunky.
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have been getting a B+ average for english is it still possible to get 40?
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have been getting a B+ average for english is it still possible to get 40?
I wouldn't say so. Your only hope, is you getting close to 60/60 for the exam and the rest of your cohort kicking ass thereby increasing your SAC marks.
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have been getting a B+ average for english is it still possible to get 40?
YES....ofcourse....you might be getting B+'s cos' ur teacher marks harsh....maintain those skills in the exam and you could surprise urself with A+.