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Title: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: hard on October 28, 2009, 02:23:52 pm
if we get two articles and a cartoon or image... are we supposed to analyze all of them in an hour?? i mean what compare the two?? do we say which ones more effective??
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: kurrymuncher on October 28, 2009, 02:40:14 pm
if we get two articles and a cartoon or image... are we supposed to analyze all of them in an hour?? i mean what compare the two?? do we say which ones more effective??

Pretty much.

but remember, in the cover sheet, it implies that we will only be analysing one article. But this could change, so either way Im fucked yay!
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: almostatrap on October 28, 2009, 02:41:14 pm
yeah you have to analyze everything, you just may not write as much as you would if there was only one. Its best to allocate time from the hour proportionately to how long each piece is.

As for comparing, you can compare the overall approach and style of each. Also which may be more effective on particular target audiences often, this is due to the nature of appeals used.
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: GerrySly on October 28, 2009, 02:47:51 pm
Yeah you analyse everything, both articles and images if they're there. Pick like 3-4 PLT's from each then analyse those along with the image. You don't need to compare them though you probably should in the conclusion
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: madi1234 on October 28, 2009, 04:23:25 pm
Our teacher said when you do two articles (who is an examiner btw).
When you get up to the 2nd article just use in words like 'similar to, contrast to'.. and just keep comparing it to the first article.
Which means you do not have to write a Synthesis, as you will not have time..
However you never comment which one is more effective or how bad one is.. Well thats what my teacher said and many lectures I've been too.
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: Aerith on October 28, 2009, 04:48:58 pm
PLEASE BE ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ARTICLEE

Hopefully it's not an editorial either simply because there is no writer or journalist to refer to.
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: peppi on October 28, 2009, 04:53:52 pm
imo just have 4 body paragraphs, no matter how many articles are supplied..

usually when there's mroe than 1 article, one will be medium length, and the other short..
so if that was the case, i'd go:

paragraph 1: 2 techniques from the first article
paragraph 2: 2 techniques from the first article
paragraph 3: 2-3 techniques from the second article
paragraph 4: analyse the visual.
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: Stroodle on October 28, 2009, 06:29:30 pm
My teacher's also an assessor, and she told us that you can either write them together and compare techniques, or write them separately - as in one short essay followed by another, with no space inbetween- without linking them in any way.

For one of our sacs we had 3 articles and a picture. It was horrible...
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: NE2000 on October 28, 2009, 08:27:12 pm
PLEASE BE ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ARTICLEE

Hopefully it's not an editorial either simply because there is no writer or journalist to refer to.

"the editor"? I had one of these and yeah I just kept saying the editor.
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: methodsboy on October 28, 2009, 09:15:13 pm
imo just have 4 body paragraphs, no matter how many articles are supplied..

usually when there's mroe than 1 article, one will be medium length, and the other short..
so if that was the case, i'd go:

paragraph 1: 2 techniques from the first article
paragraph 2: 2 techniques from the first article
paragraph 3: 2-3 techniques from the second article
paragraph 4: analyse the visual.
i advocate that
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: kendraaaaa on October 28, 2009, 09:20:12 pm
^^^^

Looks good however I'd add the following. Between paragraphs 2-3 have a mini-introduction to the second article, just to make your piece 'flow' more. So say that, "Mr. X's arguement is contrasted by Mrs. Y in a letter written in response. In a xyz tone, Y contends xyz" blah blah blah.
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: methodsboy on October 28, 2009, 09:22:21 pm
^^
mm before u begin analysing the second piece, i would talk about the tone and contention for the second writer rather than talking about the tones of the two writers in the intros. my teacher said u must link the two articles - as kendraaaaa stated "Mr. X's arguement is contrasted by Mrs."
Title: Re: 2 articles??? 1 hour???
Post by: dshban on October 28, 2009, 09:52:17 pm
It's more than likely gonna be one article with an accompanying visual. And the assessor I talked to said that an actual comparison paragraph is unnecessary, just elements of comparison throughout your paragraphs, topic sentences and (mostly) conclusion.