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Title: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on November 16, 2009, 04:16:15 pm
Hey all,
After finally completing my VCE, I've decided that I want to continue studying Psychology at Uni. I've been looking up all the courses at other unis, but I'm confused to exactly what Melbourne requires to study Psych? Cos it says it has the largest Psych department and what not, and I don't know if I'm just confused and stupid but does Melbourne not have any psych undergraduate degrees? Just curious.

Thanks for your help in advance :D
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: costargh on November 16, 2009, 04:18:35 pm
Hope this helps
http://www.psych.unimelb.edu.au/courses/undergraduate/
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 16, 2009, 04:19:33 pm
I think you might have to do B.Sci at UoM and then major in psychology.

EDIT:  I was partly right.  Just look at costargh's link.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on November 16, 2009, 04:23:31 pm
Hope this helps
http://www.psych.unimelb.edu.au/courses/undergraduate/

Thanks! That makes much more sense! Don't know how I didn't come across that page when I was browsing the website haha!
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: AppleThief on November 16, 2009, 04:25:07 pm
You can do an accredited sequence* in psychology in either B Arts or B Science at Unimelb. All you need is an ENTER high enough to get into either of those courses.

* Majoring in psychology, basically. But useful to note that to become a registered psychologist, you need to have completed an APAC-approved undergrad degree consisting of three years of study, supplemented by a fourth year (honours or graduate diploma) which will allow you to complete APAC-accredited postgraduate study, which will in turn let you become a registered psychologist! Pretty exciting stuff, really.

EDIT: Sigh, I was beaten, but I hope my post was useful anyway.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on November 16, 2009, 04:30:07 pm
You can do an accredited sequence* in psychology in either B Arts or B Science at Unimelb. All you need is an ENTER high enough to get into either of those courses.

* Majoring in psychology, basically. But useful to note that to become a registered psychologist, you need to have completed an APAC-approved undergrad degree consisting of three years of study, supplemented by a fourth year (honours or graduate diploma) which will allow you to complete APAC-accredited postgraduate study, which will in turn let you become a registered psychologist! Pretty exciting stuff, really.

EDIT: Sigh, I was beaten, but I hope my post was useful anyway.

Very! And so after the B.A, I'd have to do a major in psychology if I want to pursue a career as a research psychologist? Which is another 3 years? So 6 years all up :|
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: AppleThief on November 16, 2009, 04:36:18 pm
You can do an accredited sequence* in psychology in either B Arts or B Science at Unimelb. All you need is an ENTER high enough to get into either of those courses.

* Majoring in psychology, basically. But useful to note that to become a registered psychologist, you need to have completed an APAC-approved undergrad degree consisting of three years of study, supplemented by a fourth year (honours or graduate diploma) which will allow you to complete APAC-accredited postgraduate study, which will in turn let you become a registered psychologist! Pretty exciting stuff, really.

EDIT: Sigh, I was beaten, but I hope my post was useful anyway.

Very! And so after the B.A, I'd have to do a major in psychology if I want to pursue a career as a research psychologist? Which is another 3 years? So 6 years all up :|
You major in psychology in the B.A.

So that + honours is four years, and then a Masters is two years (Unimelb offers Masters degrees in clinical psychology, clinical neuropsychology, clinical child psychology, and educational psychology). After those six years you can become a registered psychologist.

If you want to become a researcher/academic, I think you have to do a PhD? Those take ages.
EDIT: I don't know whether all types of research requires a PhD or just the research done at universities and stuff. http://www.psych.unimelb.edu.au/profession/career/ suggests not, but this isn't really part of my knowledge..!
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: hard on November 16, 2009, 04:53:21 pm
what if you don't get in to the honours or masters what do you do then. just stick with a B.A .. that sucks
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: anti on November 16, 2009, 05:09:17 pm
Keep in mind, honours has higher requirements than advertised.  It's a H1 average or close to in reality I believe.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 16, 2009, 05:36:01 pm
what if you don't get in to the honours or masters what do you do then. just stick with a B.A .. that sucks

You got a degree that's worth less the paper that's written on.

Well that's not exactly true, there is an alternative pathway to doing Honours  by doing the PGDip Psych. But it does restrict your pathways (e.g. you can't go do doctorate programmes directly). You can also use the psych degree for other careers as well (in fact, most people with Psych majors will not become Psychologists)

I might write up a Psychology guide, now that I'm more free.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on November 16, 2009, 05:43:58 pm
what if you don't get in to the honours or masters what do you do then. just stick with a B.A .. that sucks

You got a degree that's worth less the paper that's written on.

Well that's not exactly true, there is an alternative pathway to doing Honours  by doing the PGDip Psych. But it does restrict your pathways (e.g. you can't go do doctorate programmes directly). You can also use the psych degree for other careers as well (in fact, most people with Psych majors will not become Psychologists)

I might write up a Psychology guide, now that I'm more free.

well that sucks.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: username on November 16, 2009, 07:39:47 pm
what if you don't get in to the honours or masters what do you do then. just stick with a B.A .. that sucks

You got a degree that's worth less the paper that's written on.

Well that's not exactly true, there is an alternative pathway to doing Honours  by doing the PGDip Psych. But it does restrict your pathways (e.g. you can't go do doctorate programmes directly). You can also use the psych degree for other careers as well (in fact, most people with Psych majors will not become Psychologists)

I might write up a Psychology guide, now that I'm more free.

well that sucks.

Also according to the guy who sat next to me in the Psychology lectures and wanted to do Honors, he said you need an average of 80%? I'm not sure how reliable that is though, seems a bit high compared to other majors (For Microbiology and Immunology you only need 65%).
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: minilunchbox on November 16, 2009, 08:00:32 pm
what if you don't get in to the honours or masters what do you do then. just stick with a B.A .. that sucks

You got a degree that's worth less the paper that's written on.

Well that's not exactly true, there is an alternative pathway to doing Honours  by doing the PGDip Psych. But it does restrict your pathways (e.g. you can't go do doctorate programmes directly). You can also use the psych degree for other careers as well (in fact, most people with Psych majors will not become Psychologists)

I might write up a Psychology guide, now that I'm more free.

well that sucks.

Also according to the guy who sat next to me in the Psychology lectures and wanted to do Honors, he said you need an average of 80%? I'm not sure how reliable that is though, seems a bit high compared to other majors (For Microbiology and Immunology you only need 65%).

I think that would be because more people apply and there's less spots.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Edmund on November 16, 2009, 08:11:51 pm
what if you don't get in to the honours or masters what do you do then. just stick with a B.A .. that sucks

You got a degree that's worth less the paper that's written on.

Well that's not exactly true, there is an alternative pathway to doing Honours  by doing the PGDip Psych. But it does restrict your pathways (e.g. you can't go do doctorate programmes directly). You can also use the psych degree for other careers as well (in fact, most people with Psych majors will not become Psychologists)

I might write up a Psychology guide, now that I'm more free.

well that sucks.

Also according to the guy who sat next to me in the Psychology lectures and wanted to do Honors, he said you need an average of 80%? I'm not sure how reliable that is though, seems a bit high compared to other majors (For Microbiology and Immunology you only need 65%).

I think that would be because more people apply and there's less spots.
That's right
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: hard on November 16, 2009, 08:18:28 pm
once you finish a melbourne degree can you apply to more than one honours?
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: mark_alec on November 16, 2009, 08:21:08 pm
once you finish a melbourne degree can you apply to more than one honours?
As long as you meet the prerequisites, you can apply for whatever you want.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: hard on November 16, 2009, 08:31:51 pm
melbournes a head doer fark why the complicate shit with this gay system STOP TRYING TO BE AMERICA YOU SHIT FACESSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 16, 2009, 09:18:35 pm
once you finish a melbourne degree can you apply to more than one honours?
As long as you meet the prerequisites, you can apply for whatever you want.

You can apply to honours to any university as well, but yeah, the standard for most honours programmes (at Monash) is about a Distinction (70%) in 3rd-Year subs, but for Psychology, it's more towards the 80%
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: QuantumJG on November 16, 2009, 09:23:33 pm
Hey all,
After finally completing my VCE, I've decided that I want to continue studying Psychology at Uni. I've been looking up all the courses at other unis, but I'm confused to exactly what Melbourne requires to study Psych? Cos it says it has the largest Psych department and what not, and I don't know if I'm just confused and stupid but does Melbourne not have any psych undergraduate degrees? Just curious.

Thanks for your help in advance :D

You can do a psychology major through either a bachelor of arts or a bachelor of science. If you prefer your arts style subjects go with a Bachelor of Arts, but if you prefer science then do a bachelor of science.

I'm pretty sure that the prerequisite to applying for honours is an H1 average. Honours basically accelerates what you do in a masters degree to go into a PhD. I went to a seminar on post graduate degrees and people who do honours will find the degree's pace a lot more faster than masters since you have 1 year for your thesis and coursework, whilst a masters degree spreads it out over 2 years. I wouldn't recommend doing an honours degree unless you want to do a PhD.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: minilunchbox on November 16, 2009, 09:27:32 pm
Hey all,
After finally completing my VCE, I've decided that I want to continue studying Psychology at Uni. I've been looking up all the courses at other unis, but I'm confused to exactly what Melbourne requires to study Psych? Cos it says it has the largest Psych department and what not, and I don't know if I'm just confused and stupid but does Melbourne not have any psych undergraduate degrees? Just curious.

Thanks for your help in advance :D

You can do a psychology major through either a bachelor of arts or a bachelor of science. If you prefer your arts style subjects go with a Bachelor of Arts, but if you prefer science then do a bachelor of science.

I'm pretty sure that the prerequisite to applying for honours is an H1 average. Honours basically accelerates what you do in a masters degree to go into a PhD. I went to a seminar on post graduate degrees and people who do honours will find the degree's pace a lot more faster than masters since you have 1 year for your thesis and coursework, whilst a masters degree spreads it out over 2 years. I wouldn't recommend doing an honours degree unless you want to do a PhD.

Honours is required for Psychology/registering to be a Psychologist.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: mark_alec on November 16, 2009, 09:28:55 pm
melbournes a head doer fark why the complicate shit with this gay system STOP TRYING TO BE AMERICA YOU SHIT FACESSSSSSSSSS
You are making no sense.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: hard on November 16, 2009, 09:31:37 pm
melbournes a head doer fark why the complicate shit with this gay system STOP TRYING TO BE AMERICA YOU SHIT FACESSSSSSSSSS
You are making no sense.
but if that ear phones not conccurent with your statement
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 16, 2009, 09:47:19 pm
Hey all,
After finally completing my VCE, I've decided that I want to continue studying Psychology at Uni. I've been looking up all the courses at other unis, but I'm confused to exactly what Melbourne requires to study Psych? Cos it says it has the largest Psych department and what not, and I don't know if I'm just confused and stupid but does Melbourne not have any psych undergraduate degrees? Just curious.

Thanks for your help in advance :D

You can do a psychology major through either a bachelor of arts or a bachelor of science. If you prefer your arts style subjects go with a Bachelor of Arts, but if you prefer science then do a bachelor of science.

I'm pretty sure that the prerequisite to applying for honours is an H1 average. Honours basically accelerates what you do in a masters degree to go into a PhD. I went to a seminar on post graduate degrees and people who do honours will find the degree's pace a lot more faster than masters since you have 1 year for your thesis and coursework, whilst a masters degree spreads it out over 2 years. I wouldn't recommend doing an honours degree unless you want to do a PhD.

Honours is required for Psychology/registering to be a Psychologist.

Yeah. It's a legal requirement for registration as a Probationary Psychologist with the Psychologists Registration Board of Victoria that you have completed a Fourth-Year in Psychology, which Honours is one way of achieving that pathway.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Edmund on November 16, 2009, 09:48:51 pm
Hey all,
After finally completing my VCE, I've decided that I want to continue studying Psychology at Uni. I've been looking up all the courses at other unis, but I'm confused to exactly what Melbourne requires to study Psych? Cos it says it has the largest Psych department and what not, and I don't know if I'm just confused and stupid but does Melbourne not have any psych undergraduate degrees? Just curious.

Thanks for your help in advance :D

You can do a psychology major through either a bachelor of arts or a bachelor of science. If you prefer your arts style subjects go with a Bachelor of Arts, but if you prefer science then do a bachelor of science.

I'm pretty sure that the prerequisite to applying for honours is an H1 average. Honours basically accelerates what you do in a masters degree to go into a PhD. I went to a seminar on post graduate degrees and people who do honours will find the degree's pace a lot more faster than masters since you have 1 year for your thesis and coursework, whilst a masters degree spreads it out over 2 years. I wouldn't recommend doing an honours degree unless you want to do a PhD.
What's the difference between honours and masters?
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 16, 2009, 09:55:04 pm
Hey all,
After finally completing my VCE, I've decided that I want to continue studying Psychology at Uni. I've been looking up all the courses at other unis, but I'm confused to exactly what Melbourne requires to study Psych? Cos it says it has the largest Psych department and what not, and I don't know if I'm just confused and stupid but does Melbourne not have any psych undergraduate degrees? Just curious.

Thanks for your help in advance :D

You can do a psychology major through either a bachelor of arts or a bachelor of science. If you prefer your arts style subjects go with a Bachelor of Arts, but if you prefer science then do a bachelor of science.

I'm pretty sure that the prerequisite to applying for honours is an H1 average. Honours basically accelerates what you do in a masters degree to go into a PhD. I went to a seminar on post graduate degrees and people who do honours will find the degree's pace a lot more faster than masters since you have 1 year for your thesis and coursework, whilst a masters degree spreads it out over 2 years. I wouldn't recommend doing an honours degree unless you want to do a PhD.
What's the difference between honours and masters?

Honours (generally all, except in Law, Engineering and Medicine) is an extra year that you take. In Psychology, it's a combination between the writing of a few research and completion of bits of coursework in ethics, statistics and an elective I think. In Science subjects, it's a theses of 10,000 words, and a bit of coursework in statstics.

Masters refers to a degree that you do after your degree. There's a variety, some are coursework-based (e.g. MBA) and some are research-based.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: wombifat on November 16, 2009, 09:58:54 pm
but remember, you don't have to do honours, you can do a graduate diploma, which you're probably more likely to get into even if you miss out on honours.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: minilunchbox on November 16, 2009, 10:13:57 pm
What's the difference between the Postgrad Diploma and Honours?
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 17, 2009, 02:58:38 am
Probably the most pertinent is that you can't jump from the Postgrad Diploma to any Doctoral-level programmes, whereas you can with the Honours programme.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on November 17, 2009, 05:48:53 pm
OK so from all of the above info, what EXACTLY would I have to do to end up with a career in research psychology! Its all too complex arghh
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: hard on November 17, 2009, 09:39:34 pm
Probably the most pertinent is that you can't jump from the Postgrad Diploma to any Doctoral-level programmes, whereas you can with the Honours programme.
so can you go from posgrad dip to masters?
OK so from all of the above info, what EXACTLY would I have to do to end up with a career in research psychology! Its all too complex arghh
go if u want melb uni do 3 year course do required subjects get into honours year. thas 4 years. then do masters and if u want phd there you go you are now a research psychologist
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 18, 2009, 01:12:29 am
OK so from all of the above info, what EXACTLY would I have to do to end up with a career in research psychology! Its all too complex arghh

To put it very simply BSc or BA ---> Honours ---> PhD.

I will write up a guide later tonight if I have the time
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on November 18, 2009, 03:30:30 pm
OK so from all of the above info, what EXACTLY would I have to do to end up with a career in research psychology! Its all too complex arghh

To put it very simply BSc or BA ---> Honours ---> PhD.

I will write up a guide later tonight if I have the time


arghhh thats like a gazillion years at uni and that too IF you get into honours...what a joke.
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: humph on November 18, 2009, 11:49:23 pm
OK so from all of the above info, what EXACTLY would I have to do to end up with a career in research psychology! Its all too complex arghh

To put it very simply BSc or BA ---> Honours ---> PhD.

I will write up a guide later tonight if I have the time


arghhh thats like a gazillion years at uni and that too IF you get into honours...what a joke.
Nothing wrong with staying at uni for as long as possible! Puts off having to actually go live in the real world :P
Title: Re: Psychology at Melbourne?
Post by: vce2009 on December 15, 2009, 08:25:04 pm
ok so if you don't get into say honours, n do the post grad diploma in psych, then what sort of career prospects do you have?