ATAR Notes: Forum
Administration => Site Discussion => Suggestions => Topic started by: Mao on February 10, 2008, 08:26:35 pm
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it's awesome, but a bit of cc always helps, here's a list of what i can see:
1. logo (yes i know it shall be sorted out, but... soon??)
2. links buttons?? the top row looks a bit, well, messy with text links,
3. the background of the main text areas is a little conflicting, just a bit
4. "x.doc" notes <_<" dude, pdf plz
here are my suggestions:
1. clean up the page, the bottom of the page need something (terms and conditions, small text links, etc etc, oh, and privacy policy which is required by law)
2. buttons for links
3. clean up the notes section on the left, it's kinda messy (at least shrink the fonts a bit)
4. add a browse section...?
5. announcements on the main page, try to make it like a blog, it'll look neater
6. pdf as notes :)
7. hurry up and vote for logo :)
8. get rid of/change the background on the main section of the main page, it's messy :P
its excellent, dont get me wrong, but so much could be done :P
from the look of it, it's PHP?, i'm sure there's some supersaiyan around who can help you out with stuff :D
that's my 2c :D
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You design me buttons... and I'll implement them.
EDIT: Browse is already there. Look harder.
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OK UPDATED stuph:
clean up browse (maybe box each note...?) the userface looks pretty, well, messy
and again, the background needs to be changed
PS i shall try to make buttons, but i'm sure ice_blockie or reg would do a much better job than myself even if i tried :P
and i'll draw up what i think the design should look like (in grey lead xD no colours xD) and pdf to u soonish (could be weeks xD)
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PDF can't be helped. You can upload stuff as a PDF but I looked into script converters and they're all way difficult to implement. Again, this stuff WILL be covered in the redesign of the site coming this year. Hopefully.
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PDF can't be helped. You can upload stuff as a PDF but I looked into script converters and they're all way difficult to implement. Again, this stuff WILL be covered in the redesign of the site coming this year. Hopefully.
write a guide to "how to PDF" and make all uploads pdf only :D
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That weeds out uploads. EVERYONE has .doc except for mac users and Macs have Microsoft Office anyway! They also have document viewers that can process .doc that are FREELY AVAILABLE.
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One suggestion. Directed at other Dan. Make the Enter Calc more user friendly and the interface about 100 times better. It's probably in the pipeline but geez it really does annoy me to see a great product dressed in a potato bag.
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- make it more user friendly/less cluttered
- have the same logo on the main page as forum, it looks tacky otherwise
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On the front page, that's the BANNER. The logo is on the forum.
As to the user friendliness/clutter... that's what we have to go on for the next 6 months at least. Sorry it couldn't be better but there was very limited time to get this off the ground.
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I can't read the front page text on that bg, makes me fair dizzy and cbf
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That weeds out uploads. EVERYONE has .doc except for mac users and Macs have Microsoft Office anyway! They also have document viewers that can process .doc that are FREELY AVAILABLE.
Yeah. MS office 2008 just came out, not only can it read .doc it can read .docx :D :P
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Good to see it up, I think the background/text problem could be fixed easily with a nicer font, and just a lighter background like the one attached.
* The side panel could have the font a few points smaller
* Increase the spacing a little between the left sidepanel and the right main body so the text doesn't sit on the border
* Increase top/bottom spacing in top menu (i.e. home, notes, search etc.) between main header and main body, such that it doesn't sit like on border.
* Some pages, including the not logged in page, the login page, search page, have the search box broken in Internet Explorer, that is the image is seperated
* Table on Notes page could be made wider, not centered perhaps.
That's about it, hope it helps.
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write a guide to "how to PDF" and make all uploads pdf only :D
Yeah, i think that would be a great idea. Keep things cleaner and then pictures can be included.
What if a mod converts all the submitted docs/rtf's/whatever format files to pdf, and then uploads them with a "VCE Notes" header with the site URL etc. (Although this system would need to implemented fairly early)
Also then if students (teachers?) photocopied them, the url would stay on the notes and get a bit of publicity happening.
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Not happening with the VCE Notes header. That's effectively a watermark. I can't ask that of my staff. They're unpaid and that system requires consistent obligation. Their current duties allow each of them to be slack and have other staff members pick up that slack at various times. Document viewers are much more freely downloaded by end users, and also, you can put images in Word Documents.
EDIT: Also just thinking about that... the individual retains the ownership of their documents. Whilst they can't delete them from the system themselves, any e-mail/PM requests to have them deleted are/will be honoured. Thus, putting a VCENotes watermark over them implies VCE Notes ownership which is not the case. :-/
@ abcat, I'm going to be implementing some of your suggestions. Thanks. :)
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beh. I submitted pdfs! I hope that's okay... I don't really understand all this hi-tech mumbo jumbo.
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That's great! .doc or .pdf is graciously welcomed. Thanks, Eriny!
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It looks alright but feels really ... cramped at the moment ... it only takes up about half of the space in my internet explorer window - is that how it's sposed to be or is my browser just being stupid?
Also I THINK I uploaded some notes but I have no idea if it worked :S
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OOOO and, rss feed for new uploads!!!!!
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Mao: There's a feed on the left hand side of the page for latest uploads. RSS isn't on the cards at the moment. I'm also going to be putting a latest feed of notes up the top of the forum at some point later in the week.
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and... i failed to find the upload button (there probably is one, but it's not easily seen, so.... improvement!!!)
EDIT: FOUNT IT, but i had to look REAL hard =\
there should be a big prominent button saying "click me and contribute to the community here xD"
and btw, Daniel15 you need to change the link on your ENTER calc. to vcenotes.com, it's still going back to fsn xD
and btw enwiabe in ur sig it's still going back into fsn xD
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"add notes"...
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could u add category bars along the side to tidy it up? it's going to be really messt up afterwards
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Droodles, do you mean for the forum or for the notes?
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a side thing, the navigational links in the forum:
VCE Notes > Administration > Suggestions > Topic: VCE notes, constructive criticism...?
can we maybe insert a "Forum" that goes to the forum boards instead of the main site??
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on the site front page (vcenotes.com), where the left side consists of all the notes that each member has uploaded, u need to sort them into subjects cause it's not professional to have a string of notes which aren't sorted.
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a side thing, the navigational links in the forum:
VCE Notes > Administration > Suggestions > Topic: VCE notes, constructive criticism...?
can we maybe insert a "Forum" that goes to the forum boards instead of the main site??
"VCE Notes" does not link to the main site.
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on the site front page (vcenotes.com), where the left side consists of all the notes that each member has uploaded, u need to sort them into subjects cause it's not professional to have a string of notes which aren't sorted.
They're sorted by date added. It's a feed of the most recent notes.
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like:
Accounting
- fred's notes
-john's notes
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Overcomplicating things... It's only a recent notes feed. It's just the 10 of them. There are more important things to worry about.
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like colour scheme? can u change the background plezzzzz
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yehh background on main page is shit
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Thanks Costa. I'll file that with all of your other useless posts giving advice in the recycle bin.
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There's no need to be so rude to people giving suggestions and constructive criticism.
And the front page does look shit.
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There's no need to be so rude to people giving suggestions and constructive criticism.
And the front page does look shit.
Yeah.
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Lol. I I just critisized the front page.
What seems to be the problem?
That I don't like it.
Ok I love it. It looks top notch. Better?
I can't exactly suggest a colour scheme because you tend to find the right colour with this kinda stuff just by mucking around and seeing what suits.
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... If you could see that everyone else had been saying the exact same thing, instead of just being a dipshit with "it looks shit" - say how I can improve it. Read the title, it says CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. "It looks shit" is just insulting and adds nothing to the discussion.
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Don't be so sensitive. As if the background of the main page upsets you that much
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No, think more carefully Costargh. Might this be a little rage pent up from your constantly doing this? :) Why, yes, yes it might. Either provide a solution like abcat did (which, incidentally, I implemented and thanked her for), or gtfo.
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Fine use pink
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Way to prove my point.
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I don't think the website looks terrible at all, just needs a few cosmetic improvements, and integration of the new logo. The basic design elements are there, and has a great colour scheme. I really think the main issue is just the background image, even the lighter image is just a little too strong; which obscures the text. Not sure how it would look with image removed however
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It would look very plain as opposed to very clashy. Do you have any other suggestions, abcat? Your last one improved things a bit.
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u have to put a lighter background cause the darkness is very unappealing imo, ill try and find a picture that i have in mind.
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Kk thanks droodles.
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Fine use pink
I agree.
It looks too formal and a bit all over the place. And it's really dark and gloomy. This is a site for teenagers; make it a bit more interesting - more bright and bold. Otherwise you feel like you're back at school again. So some pink (well, maybe another bright colour), or orange or red would make this look more aesthetically pleasing to the eye (if that makes sense).
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I want naked woman in the background. Target audience= lonely 16 year olds with too much time on their hands (lol pun)
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Again, costargh, a stunning contribution to the discussion!
Rietie: I'm looking into a more exciting background for the content area with more colour. I think I might take on board the mix of colours suggstion, I'll see how it pans out.
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I want naked woman in the background. Target audience= lonely 16 year olds with too much time on their hands (lol pun)
Bad image.
Nuff said.
Again, costargh, a stunning contribution to the discussion!
Rietie: I'm looking into a more exciting background for the content area with more colour. I think I might take on board the mix of colours suggestion, I'll see how it pans out.
I think you've got a theme of orange and blue, right? Just make the colour lighter and bolder, and maybe put more emphasis on the orange, or to highlight certain boxes or whatever. Or maybe make the colours a shade darker than the logo/banner colours, to give the banner/logo more emphasis. And please get rid of that background writing stuff.
After all that it should look pretty cool.
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Yeah, maybe use something closer to sky blue, which is brighter, and maybe a more yellowy orange. Less black, more colour. Maybe we should have a design-a-background competition too cos the current one is pretty ugly :P
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Nope, I'm only gonna change the background of the content area and perhaps add droodles' idea of a blurred image of books instead of the current grey.
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i like that in a man
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i like that in a man
what in a man?
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i like that in a man
lol wth
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The site looks a bit cramped to me...im using ffox browser...the whole window isnt used....
also the font could use a change (My favourite is Trebuchet MS...but thats just me) and the links could be done better as well...(i remember doing flash links in dreamweaver...cant remember how to now...but im sure someone here has the skills)
It's got potential though...lol
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this is for the vcenotes opening home page thingy
um the font colour needs to change... orange hurts my eyes
the page needs to be bigger maybe like the whole width of the page not cut out a bit
the layout isnt great- the links r confusing... wait not confusing just ... i dunno the layout if wrong lolz needs to be easier to see where things r like make it bigger easier to see easier to manage everything its too squareish the vce notes at the top needs to be like predominent so we know where we r i dont even notice it when i first go into it
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i like that in a man
what in a man?
how he is considering my idea
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Oh.... Right.... I totally knew that.
*shifty eyes*
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the site/forum theme looks like a tacky ripoff of bored of studies at the moment. I'd recommend a re-think of colours as you don't want to look like you are just copying them.
The notes are a great idea, but a little messy at the moment, but i'm sure improvements will continue to happen to make them good.
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It *is* a rip-off of Bored of Studies. :-/ Just on a faster server with better functionality for the Notes system.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and we don't charge for our notes. :)
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It *is* a rip-off of Bored of Studies. :-/ Just on a faster server with better functionality for the Notes system.
yeh but it looks like a shitter version (no offence)
going with similar colours makes this site look very tacky and unprofessional in contrast to it.
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Whats Bored of Studies?
... lol
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Whats Bored of Studies?
... lol
BoS is a crappy forum (in a nutshell)
hence VCE Notes is a better version (rip-off) of BoS
EDIT: yeh i deleted a bit :P
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He knows what BoS is (he used to be an active member), he's just playing on the idea that it's supposed to be unspoken and forgotten.
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I'm under the impression we defected from them :P
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He knows what BoS is (he used to be an active member), he's just playing on the idea that it's supposed to be unspoken and forgotten.
Ah...
:P i'm never sure of costa's comments these days....
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a fair few people on here post on both (here and BoS) though...
the VCE forum there sucks majorly, but some of the uni pages are decent.
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He knows what BoS is (he used to be an active member), he's just playing on the idea that it's supposed to be unspoken and forgotten.
Ah...
:P i'm never sure of costa's comments these days....
Ive been a bit of a dick lately.
My comments are written in a rush cause im so stressed out with hw.
Yes bos= gay
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Whats Bored of Studies?
... lol
BoS is a crappy forum (in a nutshell)
hence VCE Notes is a better version (rip-off) of BoS
EDIT: yeh i deleted a bit :P
lol except at the moment this looks like a tacky version (rip off)...needs some work to get up to bos's standards.
i.e admin should take some time to make the site look professional and easy to use and less 'rip off'
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is there a way to format the page so we don't need to scroll down 20cm just to see the top of the forum?
i don't know how any of this net stuff works, but perhaps the "latest notes" section could be moved somewhere else if that's what's causing the huge empty space at the top of the screen.
just an idea..
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huge empty space
wat the...? i have no idea what (or if) that is....
might it be your browser?
try doing a windows update on IE if ur using IE, or update firefox (or just reinstall it coz it's that easy)
I dont seem to have any problems... :P
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haha i just assumed everyone else had the same problem! so it's just my computer is it?
i installed firefox, and it's still happening. plus, my internet explorer is already on the most recent version. whatever, i'll deal - it was just a suggestion to improve the site but if it only effects me then it doesn't matter.
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haha i just assumed everyone else had the same problem! so it's just my computer is it?
i installed firefox, and it's still happening. plus, my internet explorer is already on the most recent version. whatever, i'll deal - it was just a suggestion to improve the site but if it only effects me then it doesn't matter.
Mine does the same thing!! I also have the latest version of explorer and firefox.
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Yeah. It's because of the "Latest Notes" feature being crammed into the left sidebar. If you have a smaller resolution, then the ads and the logo take up the right-hand side of the page, leaving very little width for "Latest Notes" to appear, which results in a long column. For those who are going to report that they use small resolutions yet this problem doesn't appear: if you have low resolution and ad-block, this problem shouldn't be evident (because the ads no longer take up a wide space).
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how do i change my resolution?
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right click on a blank space in the desktop, and "personalize" (and follow vista), or "properties" and the rightmost tab (for xp)
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Mine does it too... and changing the resolution works but I don't really like having the black box around the screen and every other thing on my computer being small and squashed for the design of one site.
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Enwiabe, look at this website from a computer in the HAL. Then you will see how terrible it is designed :P
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Enwiabe, look at this website from a computer in the HAL. Then you will see how terrible it is designed :P
LOL... the Hyundai A-League? LMAO!
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The Hargrave something Library. Not sure if I have the first word right even. XD
you should go to FSN during the soccer as well 8)
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The HAL computers are terribly outdated, so I'm not too fussed about that. I know the site is poorly designed, but it's what we've got to live with until I get enough money for a professional redesign. It's as simple as that.
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/me sighs
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/happypuff/icky.png)
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Dammn that is bad!
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I get that too :(.
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/me sighs
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/happypuff/icky.png)
I get that too
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It's just you. Get a better GFX card or a bigger monitor to obtain a higher resolution. My resolution on a 15" Laptop display is 1280x854 and VN looks perfect :)
Proof:
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6008/mmmyh9.png)
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^ That's still quite a big header though
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mmm here's a thought:
shrink down the logo/thingo a bit, and split the header into two rows, with the ads in the same column with the logo (probably under it), and make the dp and announcements cells have a rowspan of 2
that should fix this up :D
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what ads?
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1259/79571944ic8.png)
HEHE
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I've blocked the little vce notes logo too on my computer :P
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good idea cmel, it's now better by yet another degree!
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I've blocked the little vce notes logo too on my computer :P
HOW?!
lol sorry could you please explain to me how exactly you do that?!
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I've blocked the little vce notes logo too on my computer :P
HOW?!
lol sorry could you please explain to me how exactly you do that?!
I'm using a Firefox add-on called AdBlock.
It would depend on what browser you use as to how to block ads (and the logo which I am pretending is an ad too). I can't help much beyond 'GET FIREFOX LOLZ'
Probably make a thread asking in the technology + game forum as more people will notice it there :)
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or you can use Opera :)
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THERE! How's that? :)
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10,000 times better! thank you!
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NOW, enwiabe, it looks MUCH better'er
that white background is a lot more, presentable xD
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It would be really nice, that on your birthday, a message would be sent from the VN team saying happy birthday. I was quite disappointed seeing nothing in my messages today :(
Nah. Just joking :)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY RIETIE~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
;D
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Awww.... Thanks :)
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It would be really nice, that on your birthday, a message would be sent from the VN team saying happy birthday. I was quite disappointed seeing nothing in my messages today :(
Nah. Just joking :)
It's really easy to set up too, i don't know why they haven't - the majority of forums do it, its very nice :)