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Title: READING TIME
Post by: physics on January 23, 2010, 08:40:55 pm
 >:( i personally think that 15 minutes of reading time would be better off being used as writing time.
do ppl agree or disagree?
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: humadeee on January 23, 2010, 08:52:02 pm
I find that the 15 minutes that we're given to read through the questions are pretty useful. I use that time to plan out which questions I should tackle first and what my responses will be. If I wasn't given 15 mins to prepare I'd probably freak out in the exam room.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: akira88 on January 23, 2010, 08:58:29 pm
Reading time is good, but only if you know how to use it efficiently ;)
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: EvangelionZeta on January 23, 2010, 09:59:22 pm
It'd certainly make it a lot easier to have 15 extra minutes in the English and Literature exams.  xD
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: m@tty on January 23, 2010, 10:02:17 pm
Just being able to write down as we think, would free up a lot of brain power.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: superflya on January 23, 2010, 10:02:58 pm
It'd certainly make it a lot easier to have 15 extra minutes in the English and Literature exams.  xD

+1

reading time is crucial.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: physics on January 23, 2010, 10:04:49 pm
reading times seems a lot longerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrthan 15 minutes of writing times. its like u read over the ewhole exam a few times and its only like 5 mins.==.=
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: m@tty on January 23, 2010, 10:07:25 pm
In Methods I had so much spare reading time. It didn't help that I had decided not to do any mental calculations.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: darkphoenix on January 23, 2010, 10:07:40 pm
reading times seems a lot longerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrthan 15 minutes of writing times. its like u read over the ewhole exam a few times and its only like 5 mins.==.=

Yeah i reckon, 5 mins is ok for reading time. But 15 is too long, in the end you just sit there waiting for them to say you can start. This is why when i do prac exams i dont do the reading time, just get straight to it.

But i agree with EvangelionZeta, it certainly does help for english.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: physics on January 23, 2010, 10:10:13 pm
reading times seems a lot longerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrthan 15 minutes of writing times. its like u read over the ewhole exam a few times and its only like 5 mins.==.=

Yeah i reckon, 5 mins is ok for reading time. But 15 is too long, in the end you just sit there waiting for them to say you can start. This is why when i do prac exams i dont do the reading time, just get straight to it.

But i agree with EvangelionZeta, it certainly does help for english.

they shoukd change it LOL like make maths 5 minutes reading time and kee english as 15 min.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: darkphoenix on January 23, 2010, 10:17:46 pm
reading times seems a lot longerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrthan 15 minutes of writing times. its like u read over the ewhole exam a few times and its only like 5 mins.==.=

Yeah i reckon, 5 mins is ok for reading time. But 15 is too long, in the end you just sit there waiting for them to say you can start. This is why when i do prac exams i dont do the reading time, just get straight to it.

But i agree with EvangelionZeta, it certainly does help for english.

they shoukd change it LOL like make maths 5 minutes reading time and kee english as 15 min.

Hahah yep but its highly unlikely that they will make it different, but i guess we can always hope. :)
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Akirus on January 23, 2010, 10:51:25 pm
I'm in favor of it being kept at 15, it's more time for people to become restless and agitated.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Aden on January 23, 2010, 10:54:25 pm
I'm in favor of it being kept at 15, it's more time for people to become restless and agitated.

Isn't that a bad thing?
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: akira88 on January 23, 2010, 10:56:22 pm
Whaaat? My 15 minutes always goes so quickly and I'm like, where did it go?! :(
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Akirus on January 23, 2010, 10:59:23 pm
I'm in favor of it being kept at 15, it's more time for people to become restless and agitated.

Isn't that a bad thing?

The extra shake tests your mettle. Besides, it's not a bad thing provided that you aren't the one panicking.

That's my way of giving a subtle heads-up, by the way.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: m@tty on January 23, 2010, 11:00:55 pm
I'm in favor of it being kept at 15, it's more time for people to become restless and agitated.

Isn't that a bad thing?

The extra shake tests your mettle. Besides, it's not a bad thing provided that you aren't the one panicking.

That's my way of giving a subtle heads-up, by the way.
Not very subtle if you explain it.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: kyzoo on January 23, 2010, 11:02:21 pm
I believe 15 minutes is good. Just I don't understand why both Exam 1 and 2 for Methods have 15 minutes, despite Exam 2 being twice as long as Exam 1. My main use of reading time is to acquire a relaxed state; the more time I get, the less "restless and agitated" I get.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: vexx on January 23, 2010, 11:02:27 pm
reading time was too long i agree. but it's also really good like...

in psych, i read through all the short answers carefully, and then read the research methods part a few times and then all the questions, when they said go i didnt have to read any of the questions again and just write down all the answers :) so it saves a lot of time... except i finished 40min early, so redid the exam .___.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: kyzoo on January 23, 2010, 11:07:11 pm
I don't try to come up with answers and then remember them in my head. The effort required to keep the answer memorized, coupled with that needed to calculate the answer, disrupts my peaceful state.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Akirus on January 23, 2010, 11:08:25 pm
I'm in favor of it being kept at 15, it's more time for people to become restless and agitated.

Isn't that a bad thing?

The extra shake tests your mettle. Besides, it's not a bad thing provided that you aren't the one panicking.

That's my way of giving a subtle heads-up, by the way.
Not very subtle if you explain it.

It was subtle before I mentioned it was so, which was the point (it was too subtle).
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: vexx on January 23, 2010, 11:10:43 pm
I don't try to come up with answers and then remember them in my head. The effort required to keep the answer memorized, coupled with that needed to calculate the answer, disrupts my peaceful state.

i would say that it'd be quite hard to have all the answers in your hard for maths.
where in psych it's just like memorising...
"ok so question 1 is a definition of ___, then question 2 is application of ___ then comparing it to ____, question 3 is a definition of__ and ___, ect" it's pretty easy to remember something like that compared to equations haha.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Akirus on January 23, 2010, 11:19:08 pm
I believe 15 minutes is good. Just I don't understand why both Exam 1 and 2 for Methods have 15 minutes, despite Exam 2 being twice as long as Exam 1. My main use of reading time is to acquire a relaxed state; the more time I get, the less "restless and agitated" I get.

This is essentially my point. Most people are overly nervous come exam time, despite how pivotal it is to remain calm.

Funny how you'll always hear about people talking of their stupid mistakes, but never about ensuring against it to begin with. This is probably the most common excuse amongst high achieving students (specifically, 40+; anything below that cannot be attributed to carelessness unless you literally collapse in fear at the sight of the paper).
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Visionz on January 24, 2010, 12:24:00 am
Reading time shits me. I found myself picking up my pen and nearly filling out my multiple-choice sheet. I usually do the first few questions, remember them then blast through them when its time to write. Im not very good with managing my time in exams. I finish them so fast or I realise ive only got 3 sides left with 70 minutes still to go then completely slow down and end up rushing the last couple of questions. :\
Usually when I KNOW the answer to a question its down on the paper almost instantly. I dont need to sit and think. I either know it or I dont and thats usually determined within 5 seconds of processing the question.
Maybe if I finish with heaps of time left ill completely zone out of the subject, instead of thinking about the questions im not sure of, and then return to those questions 5 minutes later in a revitalised state of mind. Maybe if I *left* the exam (spiritually :P) and returned a few minutes later i'd have different knowledge of the subject at the forefront of my mind... ...
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: physics on January 24, 2010, 02:59:23 pm
Reading time shits me. I found myself picking up my pen and nearly filling out my multiple-choice sheet. I usually do the first few questions, remember them then blast through them when its time to write. Im not very good with managing my time in exams. I finish them so fast or I realise ive only got 3 sides left with 70 minutes still to go then completely slow down and end up rushing the last couple of questions. :\
Usually when I KNOW the answer to a question its down on the paper almost instantly. I dont need to sit and think. I either know it or I dont and thats usually determined within 5 seconds of processing the question.
Maybe if I finish with heaps of time left ill completely zone out of the subject, instead of thinking about the questions im not sure of, and then return to those questions 5 minutes later in a revitalised state of mind. Maybe if I *left* the exam (spiritually :P) and returned a few minutes later i'd have different knowledge of the subject at the forefront of my mind... ...

GAH! omg so trueeeeeeeeee! everytime its reading time i feel like picking up my pen and writitng anyway but then what haappaens if i get kicked out so i tend to put my hands under the table and just turning over the pages now and then..


THE GAT is not useful to me and i don't think i would ahve an accident but their reading time seems UBER UBER long that i just feel like ripping up the papaer and walking out. GRRRRRAHHAHAHAHAHAH! especially since it was about bees last year for the essay thingo its like bee bbeee beee beee BUZZ BUZZ BUZZZ !!! WTF!
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Visionz on January 24, 2010, 04:56:46 pm
Im more concerned about the writing time when it comes to the GAT. 3 fkn hours. =[
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: vexx on January 24, 2010, 05:02:14 pm
Im more concerned about the writing time when it comes to the GAT. 3 fkn hours. =[

the gat means nothing, so don't worry (if you ensure you do well throughout the year and not have any serious problems... well that last one you must hope for!)
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Visionz on January 24, 2010, 05:19:12 pm
Im more concerned about the writing time when it comes to the GAT. 3 fkn hours. =[

the gat means nothing, so don't worry (if you ensure you do well throughout the year and not have any serious problems... well that last one you must hope for!)

Im not concerned about the content of the GAT and probably wont do any study for it (can you even study? Its like studying for an IQ test :P) I just dont like sitting in one spot for 3 and a half hours. I should be chillin after my mid-year exam. :(
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: spizaa #5 on January 24, 2010, 05:29:33 pm
the GAT is a joke for reading time. i wrote one of the essays and only did one paragraph of the other and still got 39 lol doesnt help when the whole year level are making farm animal noises for the first hour.
but in actual exams, that 15 mins is so crucial. its what the rest of the state sits there and does nothing with. plan your answers, think of how youre going to tackle the questions. especially in english, it is so important (even though i just read thru the article because the essays seemed pretty stock standard). use reading time in prac exams aswell
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: Courante on January 24, 2010, 06:59:52 pm
I agree with the ppl that say the 15 mins reading time is crucial in an exam, especially for the long exams (english, maths paper 2 etc), those 15 mins are quite strained since there's a lot to do within the time. Although I agree for shorter exams such as maths paper 1, the 15 mins seem pretty silly =P
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: ZachCharge on January 24, 2010, 07:06:17 pm
3 hours for the GAT...great, I feel bored already.

I hate reading time in English exams. After I have decided what essay prompt I am doing I want to start jotting down my ideas, not plan in your head and hope you remember your initial thoughts 15 minutes later.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: physics on January 24, 2010, 08:26:55 pm
Im more concerned about the writing time when it comes to the GAT. 3 fkn hours. =[

the gat means nothing, so don't worry (if you ensure you do well throughout the year and not have any serious problems... well that last one you must hope for!)

Im not concerned about the content of the GAT and probably wont do any study for it (can you even study? Its like studying for an IQ test :P) I just dont like sitting in one spot for 3 and a half hours. I should be chillin after my mid-year exam. :(

i prefer IQ test over gat
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: slothpomba on January 24, 2010, 08:31:29 pm
I think reading time is important, it gives you time to see the questions before you answer them and think about them for a while. Sometimes you can half read a question and not notice a small detail and lose a whole heap of marks.

 It's also useful for you to sit down and kind of settle down during that 15 minutes of reading time.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: sgeorge on January 24, 2010, 08:57:15 pm
I find reading time to be quite useful, particularly in subjects like Legal Studies, Accounting or even Methods where I can complete multiple choice and short answer in my head. Then when writing commence I speed write everything down, so I have more time to ponder over the more difficult questions.
 
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: darkphoenix on January 24, 2010, 10:09:45 pm
I find reading time to be quite useful, particularly in subjects like Legal Studies, Accounting or even Methods where I can complete multiple choice and short answer in my head. Then when writing commence I speed write everything down, so I have more time to ponder over the more difficult questions.
 

Since when did Accounting have multiple choice?
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: sgeorge on January 24, 2010, 10:18:14 pm
Well they have short answer.
Title: Re: READING TIME
Post by: darkphoenix on January 25, 2010, 11:30:20 pm
Well they have short answer.

You mean theory. But i wouldnt really count that as short answer, as most require proper explanations.