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Title: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: bomb on March 17, 2010, 07:40:38 pm
Just completed SAC1, After doing every single question from the textbook (easily), I went into the SAC completely lost and out of time.

I'm confused as to why this happened. This happened with everyone in the classroom, are our students missing something? What do your teachers give you when preparing for a SAC? (We got set revision questions from the textbook)

Also, if I get something like 70%, is there any way to redeem myself and get a respectable study score? (38+)

Thanks. :(
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: physics on March 17, 2010, 07:45:50 pm
Just completed SAC1, After doing every single question from the textbook (easily), I went into the SAC completely lost and out of time.

I'm confused as to why this happened. This happened with everyone in the classroom, are our students missing something? What do your teachers give you when preparing for a SAC? (We got set revision questions from the textbook)

Also, if I get something like 70%, is there any way to redeem myself and get a respectable study score? (38+)

Thanks. :(
yeh u can still get 38+ for sure...the first sac and getting a low mark really worried you a lot (this happeended to me XD) but for the physcis SAC i'm doing on friday and well its stuff related to our motion prac . so our written up pracs have like the theory in it already  so we already have all the formulas and stuff and explainations...
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: Lighties on March 17, 2010, 07:48:57 pm
Sorry to hear that. I did my SAC earlier and was also a bit rushed for time, though I didn't do all the questions from the textbook. Our SAC was on the pracs we did, so the teacher just checked our prac books to make sure we had everything we needed.

Your SACs will get scaled depending on your mid-year exam mark, I think, so as long as you're ranked alright in an alright cohort it should be fine. (:
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: bomb on March 17, 2010, 08:44:03 pm
Thanks for the replies guys.

We didn't do any pracs.... =[

Hopefully I do better on the exam!
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: appianway on March 17, 2010, 08:45:50 pm
They might adjust the SAC. That happened with us last year - it was originally out of 45, but they made it out of 40 instead (so any mark of 40+/45 went to 40/40), as it was apparently unreasonable for us get through the majority of the paper. That said, most students scored below 25/40 or something like that...
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: jasopan on March 18, 2010, 12:09:53 am
What happens to someone if they score mediocre, in a smart class, but dumb [like maybe only say the physics class performed well] school?
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: gov_dog on March 18, 2010, 05:25:13 pm
had my sac yesterday was out of 84 marks for a 50 minute sac. only 2 people finished. stuff i missed out on was pretty straight forward. fml
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: coletrain on March 18, 2010, 07:13:15 pm
Just completed SAC1, After doing every single question from the textbook (easily), I went into the SAC completely lost and out of time.

I'm confused as to why this happened. This happened with everyone in the classroom, are our students missing something? What do your teachers give you when preparing for a SAC? (We got set revision questions from the textbook)


Thanks. :(

similar thing happened at my school. so how much will this effect study scores?
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: spaciiey on March 18, 2010, 08:17:25 pm
Our teacher doesn't use the textbook at all and tells us to look at the textbook in our own time. She's not a textbook teacher, she instead makes up questions for us to do, uses Checkpoints and gives us practice exam papers from, like, Insight and stuff like that. The SAC wasn't hard, but it wasn't easy, either and we all ended up doing pretty well... the lowest mark was a B, I think.

It SHOULDN'T have much of an impact on your study scores if you do well in the exam -- it could just be that your teacher sets insanely hard SACs... some do that. My methods teacher did that last year. To be honest, though, SACs are just a ranking, and it's only the first one, so I wouldn't worry too much if you haven't done well in it.
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: Stroodle on March 24, 2010, 07:16:31 pm
Just got our results for sac 1. I got 96% (2nd in cohort).

We just had to spin a rubber stopper round our heads, crunch some numbers, and write a report.
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: samuch on March 24, 2010, 07:18:49 pm
i have my sac on fridayyy and its linked with the same prac as the one mentioned above^   (i failed at spinning the rubber stopper, i mostly ended up smacking myself in the back of the head when trying to stop it  :buck2: )
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: Stroodle on March 24, 2010, 07:42:55 pm
Yeah our results were way off, so I spent nearly the whole report justifying why our results were wrong.

If your trying to work out the relationship between force and frequency maybe this'll help you:

and



  (since )



where the mass and the radius are kept constant, and you can also weigh your mass, measure the radius, then plug in the values to see if your results are correct :)

From my graphs though I ended up with something like
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: samuch on March 24, 2010, 08:06:11 pm
Yeah our results were way off, so I spent nearly the whole report justifying why our results were wrong.

If your trying to work out the relationship between force and frequency maybe this'll help you:

and



   (since )



where the mass and the radius are kept constant, and you can also weigh your mass, measure the radius, then plug in the values to see if your results are correct :)

From my graphs though I ended up with something like


we proved f=mv^2 /r  :P
our radius one didnt work tho :(

thank you for all that info tho :) 
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: physics on March 24, 2010, 09:19:02 pm
physics sac got back : 19/30 :P damn i suck at physics
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: kyzoo on March 24, 2010, 10:07:16 pm
What do your teachers give you when preparing for a SAC? (We got set revision questions from the textbook)

For Spesh, the teacher refused to give us practice papers
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: akira88 on March 24, 2010, 10:33:22 pm
What do your teachers give you when preparing for a SAC? (We got set revision questions from the textbook)

For Spesh, the teacher refused to give us practice papers
That sucks... :S
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: iillnc on April 08, 2010, 05:20:18 pm
Only 86% =/
I did revision from Checkpoints + Practice Sacs I found here
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: physics on April 08, 2010, 08:20:05 pm
Only 86% =/
I did revision from Checkpoints + Practice Sacs I found here
70something and i did hardcore studying and studyguide for a week >( u did good! :3
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: iillnc on April 13, 2010, 08:06:13 pm
^ haha thanks, but it ALL comes down to how wee you do in the Exams/how strong your cohort is (I think)

We (class) were only ever made to do checkpoints (not even textbook q's) and teacher put 1/2 questions from it so yeah. Depends on what your school does and how hard it was etc
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: kyzoo on April 13, 2010, 09:31:38 pm
Lol 36/40 for Extended Investigation Prac. Lost 1.5 marks for putting "Force = Impulse * Time" into excel instead of "Force = Impulse/Time" >.<
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: m@tty on April 13, 2010, 09:34:20 pm
Did it alter all of your formulas? If not that is hefty marks to lose for a little typo..
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: olly_s15 on April 13, 2010, 09:36:09 pm
Got my motion test sac back, 40/42 and highest in cohort. Extended practical investigation is due on friday which counts for sac marks too so hopefully that goes well too.
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: kyzoo on April 13, 2010, 09:37:54 pm
Did it alter all of your formulas? If not that is hefty marks to lose for a little typo..

It may be some little typo, but it caused me to have force values of around 0.1-2.5N when they were meant to be 1000N+
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: m@tty on April 13, 2010, 09:41:52 pm
Yeah, that's why I asked if it altered your formula's first :P

That's huge discrepancy! Damn. Did those errors pervade your other findings?
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: kyzoo on April 13, 2010, 09:47:41 pm
Yeah, that's why I asked if it altered your formula's first :P

That's huge discrepancy! Damn. Did those errors pervade your other findings?

Of course ^^, graph shapes were all mucked up lolz
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: Blakhitman on April 13, 2010, 10:01:58 pm
We start our EPI in two weeks!
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: m@tty on April 13, 2010, 10:02:12 pm
Then why'd you only lose 1.5 ?


1500 :P
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: superflya on April 13, 2010, 10:17:07 pm
force=impulse * time, remember using that awesome formula in last years unit 2 exam :P
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: Blakhitman on April 13, 2010, 10:20:54 pm
force=impulse * time, remember using that awesome formula in last years unit 2 exam :P

LOL I don't remember it like that, I remember it as Fxchange in time= impulse, then just transpose when I need to ;D
Title: Re: Anyone done SAC1 yet? =[
Post by: m@tty on April 13, 2010, 10:25:47 pm
force=impulse * time, remember using that awesome formula in last years unit 2 exam :P

Awesome ha? I'll remember to put it on my cheat sheet  :P