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VCE Stuff => VCE Science => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Chemistry => Topic started by: kenhung123 on June 02, 2010, 05:09:05 pm
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1. What are you planning to do in reading time? i.e. do some multi choice or short ans?
2. Which section you going to do first?
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I'm doing mc in reading time. Then just working through from start to finish. If something looks hard I'll leave it then come back when I'm done. Maybe not the best strategy, but it works for me :) This way I usually finish an exam in like 30-45 mins, then feel like there's no pressure when I go back and do the "hard" questions.
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Are we allowed to use calculator during reading?
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Don't think so.
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No.
I tend to read the short answer to get an understanding of what they are talking about. Then i get a sense of what is hard, what is not. I tackle easy ones. Completely ignoring hard ones. Its foolhardy to do MC first i think, such a small proportion of marks and sometimes require a heck of a lot of time.
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Are we allowed to use calculator during reading?
No.
1. What are you planning to do in reading time? i.e. do some multi choice or short ans?
2. Which section you going to do first?
1. Thoroughly read short answer questions. Then read/skim through multiple choice depending on time remaining.
2. I'm really not sure. I tend to take a while on multiple choice so maybe I'll hit that first?..
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Start MC in reading time, hopefully knock them all off in the first 15 mins of writing time, then short answer go go go!
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So far I've been doing the exam in chronological order since that's how I did Methods, but I'll give starting with short answer first a try.
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yeah, I just realised that this the first real exam I've done which hasn't been either all short answer or all multiple choice...
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I want to go for short answer first, but having already read over multi in reading time.
This way give me an insanely long exam and I can get the most points from short answer while still being able to randomly guess Multi, not sure if I will ever need to do it though (hope not)
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Actually how long would be considered long lol? Like as in pages?
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i go short ans during reading time....only short ans.....then do the short ans chronologically, skipping the hard questions, but reading them first and giving them half a go. Then, go back, do the hard questions, if i still can't do them, move onto mc. Sometimes something in the mc can trigger the ans to one of the hard questions you couldn;t do. then back to focuss onto the hard extended response.
a note tho, i've neva finished with more than 5 mins to spaare....is this a god or bad thing?
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Probably bad =/ and omg as if you don't give me a taxi ride -.-
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I just work cover to cover normally. Seems to be working fine so far. Don't you find it a little disconcerting to be jumping around everywhere like a Mexican jumping bean, andrewloppol?
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Probably bad =/ and omg as if you don't give me a taxi ride -.-
1) yea.....need to work faster >.<
2) dude, i gave you one last week, AND i was alredy giving jen, joyce and xia a lift. I couldn't ditch jen (for obvious reasons) i i don't ditch jen, i can't ditch joyce, so it comes down to you and xia, you guys fight it out, that OR you convince the taxi driver to let you ride in the boot ;)
I just work cover to cover normally. Seems to be working fine so far. Don't you find it a little disconcerting to be jumping around everywhere like a Mexican jumping bean, andrewloppol?
yea, i tried this for a few exams, found i kept just leaving some questions blank cos i forgot about them >.<
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Probably bad =/ and omg as if you don't give me a taxi ride -.-
1) yea.....need to work faster >.<
2) dude, i gave you one last week, AND i was alredy giving jen, joyce and xia a lift. I couldn't ditch jen (for obvious reasons) i i don't ditch jen, i can't ditch joyce, so it comes down to you and xia, you guys fight it out, that OR you convince the taxi driver to let you ride in the boot ;)
Hahaha it's cool I got a lift from Kik anyway.
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I just work cover to cover normally. Seems to be working fine so far. Don't you find it a little disconcerting to be jumping around everywhere like a Mexican jumping bean, andrewloppol?
Not really, if you're just doing the questions in different order. You lose time if you keep changing questions after you've started them.
That's the strategy I do. Doing the ones you're most comfortable with (and which would be the ones you're fastest at doing) helps to gauge how much time you have left for the ones you're not as sure about. Then coming back to them, you've got the time pressure relieved off you so it's easier to think clearly and not make mistakes on these harder questions. My typical routine would be to do all the easy SAQs, then breeze through the MCQ, then go back to the hard SAQs. Most exams involve me going from cover to cover at least 3 times before I've answered every question due to how I prioritise.
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Really depends I guess. Like obviously you are a bright student and what you find hard is probably just 1 question. But for an average guy, they might need to skip like 5 questions and to keep jumping back and forth, looking through, making sure you've answered every question each time you filled in a blank can be quite time wasting. Just my opinion.
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I just work cover to cover normally. Seems to be working fine so far. Don't you find it a little disconcerting to be jumping around everywhere like a Mexican jumping bean, andrewloppol?
Not really, if you're just doing the questions in different order. You lose time if you keep changing questions after you've started them.
I thought you were applying the TSFX technique. The lady said, on the first time through the paper skip any question you can't complete at your "fast pace". lol
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Really depends I guess. Like obviously you are a bright student and what you find hard is probably just 1 question. But for an average guy, they might need to skip like 5 questions and to keep jumping back and forth, looking through, making sure you've answered every question each time you filled in a blank can be quite time wasting. Just my opinion.
Nope, there's usually a good 5 or so MCQs that I'd skip, and another 5 or so SAQs. I think it's just that my definition of 'fast pace' differs from others - I pretty much don't stop writing except for reading the question when I go through the paper the first time (during which I visualise the process and answer). There's not really any idle thinking time involved whatsoever.
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Oh I actually like the idea of doing multi choices in reading time!
This is really really good. I can knock dowb pretty much all of them and then just circle them when starting. This takes 1 minute at best (the circling). This means i have what should be 30 mins under my belt already!
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Oh I actually like the idea of doing multi choices in reading time!
This is really really good. I can knock dowb pretty much all of them and then just circle them when starting. This takes 1 minute at best (the circling). This means i have what should be 30 mins under my belt already!
Is that allowed? I hope so cos it would give more time to other areas :)
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No it isn't. You just do them mentally. You don't have to remember the answers coz when you go back to the question you remember what you were doing and the answer pops into your head.
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Our teacher told us to fingernail them... It is so good. You can knock off all the theory crap before you've even started writing...
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most of the maths u can do as well?
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You're probably smart enough to be able to do it in your head haha. I can't take that risk!
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Our teacher told us to fingernail them... It is so good. You can knock off all the theory crap before you've even started writing...
This is not allowed. The rules are not to mark the paper in any way during reading time...
A student must not begin to write or mark his or her paper or response material in any way, or use a calculator if one is permitted, until the announcement that writing time has commenced.
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Only if you get caught... I don't think they could do any thing if you were fingernailing... It's fairly anonymous
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You're probably smart enough to be able to do it in your head haha. I can't take that risk!
Nawwwwww. :smitten: Most of them you can have a sense of what is right though?
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It's against the rules, but you'd never get done for finger nailing the paper, so if it helps then just do it.
I once got told by a teacher that it is good exam technique haha...
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Chuck Norris fingernails short answer questions.
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srlsy, could fingernailing actually get you into trouble?......did it all thu last year with methods
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fingernailing ftw.
knock down atleast 10-12 theory MC's lol in 10 or so minutes. then breeze over each SA and check out what each one is based on. eg gravimetric/titration/spectroscopy/ organic etc.
I did it for Biol last year and would have easily done about 15+ MC's in reading time haaha.
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That is exactly my technique Greggler :)
Do as many MC as possible in reading time, whilst having a very quick look over short answer to know what you have to retrieve from your brain and think about haha, then finish off the MC in the first 10-15 mins of the exam, and you leave yourself with a good hour and fifteen to take on the short answer questions.
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Hahaha. Fingernailing ftw. Tempted to go and get a fake nail on my index finger.
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lol, not sure you need to go that far...........
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GOODLUCKKK EVERYBODY FOR WEDNESDAYYYYYYY!!!!! GETTT A++++++++ EVERYONE FOR SURE (everyone on this site is smart anyhow) :D
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haha yeah i like this community! Most of you know more than the whole chem faculty at my fail school!
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haha yeah i like this community! Most of you know more than the whole chem faculty at my fail school!
Same... VN should be a school...
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If you WANT to risk fingernailing, go ahead for it - But this is the official rule:
15. A student must not begin to write or mark his or her paper or response material in
any way, or use a calculator, until advised by a supervisor that writing may
commence.
I am pretty sure they are allowed to take the paper off you, and/or marking down by a grade. In reading time, taking the paper off you AND losing a grade = g.g.
And Im pretty sure there is a good reason to not have a calculator in reading time.
You could easily type in 2344341233 - Or something of the sort, corresponding with BCDDCDABCC
Personally this would be my strategy - start with short answer, and answer the Organic pathways question first - it's always the easiest to knock off. Then just work out in terms of difficulty. Im expecting the paper to be long, so at least if I dont have enough time I can guess the multis.
Multis in reading time - I dont like the idea. It makes it soo much easier to fall for every possible trap there is.
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I don't know what you mean by traps. People say vcaa 09 had traps? yeah right.
I did multi's in that paper, seemed to do fine in reading time.
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FIngernailing is not allowed im pretty sure otherwise everyone would do it
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What ever I can do, I'll do that first. Don't waste time on thinking.
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FIngernailing is not allowed im pretty sure otherwise everyone would do it
True...but by doing the MC's in reading time, and even if you dont fingernail yours in...
Just do them, because when you start your exam, and you got those ~10 Mc's done, circle them
in ASAP, and do what your plan of action is after that ...
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Theres just something when everyone says fingernailing that seems slightly smutty to me.......
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almost kinky
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I've always wanted to screw VCAA. ;]
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Wow. That was actually quite smart. :2funny: :smitten:
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No it isn't. You just do them mentally. You don't have to remember the answers coz when you go back to the question you remember what you were doing and the answer pops into your head.
I did this for two past exams now, I managed to finish multi in the first 15 minute giving me a lot of time for the short answer. I can do everything not involving a calculator in reading time and the calc stuff in the first 15 minutes.
Really think I should do this in the exam
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yeah deffs works a treat. Because your average exam has about 10-15 theory questions.
And even if you spend 10 minutes of reading time making sure you get these right and getting the process in your head for the calculation ones you still have 5 minutes to get the feel of the SA and then around 80 minutes during to do them during writing time.
Unfortunatley you cant really do this for physics ><
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yeah deffs works a treat. Because your average exam has about 10-15 theory questions.
And even if you spend 10 minutes of reading time making sure you get these right and getting the process in your head for the calculation ones you still have 5 minutes to get the feel of the SA and then around 80 minutes during to do them during writing time.
Unfortunatley you cant really do this for physics ><
I did Physics last year, and my stratergy for that in reading time was to READ, CAREFULLY, the words in S.A, then go to your particular detailed study (Get a feel of it - Mine was structures) and then go back to S.A with about 7 -9 minutes in hand, and get the thought process rolling on how to attempt the S.A questions - especially the "hard" questions....wernt too many last year, unfortunately :P
Btw...for Physics, I tip a banked question....Involving force, friction, speed etc (the whole do)....was really sure it was going to be on motion last year, but wasnt... It shall be this year :)
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Unfortunatley you cant really do this for physics ><
This is why i posted my technique on the chem boards ::)
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BUmp