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Title: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: lovebusiness on June 07, 2010, 01:36:59 pm
Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?

I have no idea what it is , do we need to know it for the exam?
cheers
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Visionz on June 07, 2010, 01:58:06 pm
Applies to the muller-lyer illusion.
The middle lines of each figure are the same length however the WHOLE length of the figure with outward pointing ends >---< is longer than the whole length of the figure with inward pointing ends <--->. This causes a conflict in our interpretation of the stimulus.
To counter the conflicting cues we see in the stimulus (the ML illusion) we make a perceptual compromise. This is called the middle-ground.
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: iNerd on June 07, 2010, 03:47:36 pm
omg! this post comes up now!?
Just had my Unit 1 Exam today made by "Trials for Teachers" and this came up...
...i had no clue  >:(
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: coolhat on June 07, 2010, 09:44:36 pm
its unit 1-doesnt matter!
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: iNerd on June 08, 2010, 08:09:01 am
its unit 1-doesnt matter!
which is y i'm not severly pissed :P
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Tashi on June 08, 2010, 11:02:43 am
You don't specifically need to know it. There may be a question 'Give an explanation of the Muller-Lyer illusion' and you could use this theory to explain, but they won't actually ask 'What is the perceptual compromise theory?'
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: lolbox on June 08, 2010, 11:15:39 am
You don't specifically need to know it. There may be a question 'Give an explanation of the Muller-Lyer illusion' and you could use this theory to explain, but they won't actually ask 'What is the perceptual compromise theory?'
In the 2003 VCAA they specifically asked you to explain the Muller-Lyer illusion using the Apparent Distance theory
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Visionz on June 08, 2010, 11:17:52 am
You don't specifically need to know it. There may be a question 'Give an explanation of the Muller-Lyer illusion' and you could use this theory to explain, but they won't actually ask 'What is the perceptual compromise theory?'
In the 2003 VCAA they specifically asked you to explain the Muller-Lyer illusion using the Apparent Distance theory

Different study design. Infact the teacher the other day in our last lesson before the exam said it was a "shit" explanation and thats why its not taught to us any more, in regards to explaining the ML illusion. We still need to know it for Ames room though.
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: lolbox on June 08, 2010, 11:26:22 am
You don't specifically need to know it. There may be a question 'Give an explanation of the Muller-Lyer illusion' and you could use this theory to explain, but they won't actually ask 'What is the perceptual compromise theory?'
In the 2003 VCAA they specifically asked you to explain the Muller-Lyer illusion using the Apparent Distance theory

Different study design. Infact the teacher the other day in our last lesson before the exam said it was a "shit" explanation and thats why its not taught to us any more, in regards to explaining the ML illusion. We still need to know it for Ames room though.
different study design doesn't mean the questions, on the things kept on the current study design, will change. The apparent distance theory is still taught to explain the muller-lyer. It is in both the main textbooks. Your teacher thinking its shit and not teaching it to your class is a different story...
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Bridie on June 08, 2010, 11:53:34 am
In my school we only learn the apparent distance theory in relation to the Ames Room.... and I think that's what's in our textbook.
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Visionz on June 08, 2010, 11:57:03 am
You don't specifically need to know it. There may be a question 'Give an explanation of the Muller-Lyer illusion' and you could use this theory to explain, but they won't actually ask 'What is the perceptual compromise theory?'
In the 2003 VCAA they specifically asked you to explain the Muller-Lyer illusion using the Apparent Distance theory

Different study design. Infact the teacher the other day in our last lesson before the exam said it was a "shit" explanation and thats why its not taught to us any more, in regards to explaining the ML illusion. We still need to know it for Ames room though.
different study design doesn't mean the questions, on the things kept on the current study design, will change. The apparent distance theory is still taught to explain the muller-lyer. It is in both the main textbooks. Your teacher thinking its shit and not teaching it to your class is a different story...

It can be explained by the perceptual compromise theory. Like tashi said theyre not going to ask you specifically about how the apparent distance theory explains the MLI. Thats how they used to teach it. Its still an acceptable response but it doesnt need to be taught, the perceptual compromise theory is preferable.
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: lolbox on June 08, 2010, 11:58:42 am
It can be explained by the perceptual compromise theory. Like tashi said theyre not going to ask you specifically about how the apparent distance theory explains the MLI. Thats how they used to teach it. Its still an acceptable response but it doesnt need to be taught, the perceptual compromise theory is preferable.
lol you just ignored everything I posted . . .
I'll repost everything in dotpoint form to ease your understanding

- They could specifically ask about the apparent distance theory. It has been done before in VCAA 2003
- Yes I know what your going to say, different study design. But a different study design does not equate in different questions in areas which were not changed
- The apparent distance theory IS STILL TAUGHT for the muller-lyer. Just because your teacher decided not to teach it doesn't mean other schools did
- correction: the perceptual compromise theory is preferable FOR YOU
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Visionz on June 08, 2010, 12:10:39 pm
It can be explained by the perceptual compromise theory. Like tashi said theyre not going to ask you specifically about how the apparent distance theory explains the MLI. Thats how they used to teach it. Its still an acceptable response but it doesnt need to be taught, the perceptual compromise theory is preferable.
lol you just ignored everything I posted . . .
I'll repost everything in dotpoint form to ease your understanding

- They could specifically ask about the apparent distance theory. It has been done before in VCAA 2003
- Yes I know what your going to say, different study design. But a different study design does not equate in different questions in areas which were not changed
- The apparent distance theory IS STILL TAUGHT for the muller-lyer. Just because your teacher decided not to teach it doesn't mean other schools did
- correction: the perceptual compromise theory is preferable FOR YOU

Thanks for the clear structure bro. Now its even easier to see how much of a cunt-rag you are.

In the old study design im not sure they had the option to use the perceptual compromise theory to explain the MLI. Thats why they asked specifically for the ADT. Now there is another option. A newer, better option. Because there are options and both explanations dont have to be taught, they cant ask a specific question anymore can they? 
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: lolbox on June 08, 2010, 12:16:25 pm
lol someones getting a bit defensive. thanks for swearing at me, shows how insecure you are :)

I wouldn't have needed to use the dot points if you didn't completely ignore everything I said in my first post
they cant ask a specific question anymore can they?  
and as I've tried to say in my past 2 posts and again in this one

yes...they...can

and I'm 99% sure perceptual compromise WAS in the last study design...
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: Visionz on June 08, 2010, 12:25:44 pm
lol someones getting a bit defensive. thanks for swearing at me, shows how insecure you are :)

I wouldn't have needed to use the dot points if you didn't completely ignore everything I said in my first post
they cant ask a specific question anymore can they? 
and as I've tried to say in my past 2 posts and again in this one

yes...they...can

and I'm 99% sure perceptual compromise WAS in the last study design...

Yes. Im very insecure. Or maybe youre just a wanker? There I go again.


I dont know if it was or not. I just think they wouldnt ask a specific question. Even if they do, despite not being taught explicitly in class, I still have that carpentered world hypothesis down and know how to apply the ADT so I shouldnt struggle.
Title: Re: Can someone explain Ross day's perceptual compromise theory?
Post by: lolbox on June 08, 2010, 12:29:37 pm
Yes. Im very insecure. Or maybe youre just a wanker? There I go again.
lol whats with the hate and anger dude. all I was tryna saying from the onset was you shouldn't assume things

chill out yeah? or don't up 2 you