Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 08:26:19 pm
What the fuck kind of timetable system are we meant to be using here?
I have fiddled with this piece of crap for at least half an hour every day for the past week and I still don't understand how, when it opens tomorrow, someone is supposed to move out of one subject and in to another.
I have watched their silly videos, and they give zero indication of how to access the pages that they are showing you how to use.
When the piece of crap opens up tomorrow, I am going to have no idea what I am doing and have my whole timetable fucked over because Psychology is the most popular subject on earth, and I can't move into tutorials late in the evening because of how far away I live from campus. I would literally get home at 1am.
Tell your own inhibited online enrollment, inhibited enrollment anywhere, 'I'm sorry I went to Melbourne Uni because their ability to provide a functional IT system is severely lacking' stories.
Post by: Russ on June 27, 2010, 08:42:32 pm
e, if you have serious concerns about your ability to attend late tutes (it really takes you 4 hours to get home from an 8pm class?) call your student center tomorrow morning and say that the system isn't working for you, can you make an appointment to do it manually. You'll have to wait for someone to pick up because they'll get swamped, but they're perfectly willing to move you around if you have problems with certain times.
Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 09:20:21 pm
Psych tutes are 2 hours so they finish at 10.
And yeah it does.
Trains on my line run like every half hour after that, take an hour, I have to walk home because there isn't a bus at that hour.
Funtimes.
So wait, your study plan is working?
Mine isn't.
Is it because I do media com and have cores?
Post by: QuantumJG on June 27, 2010, 09:25:55 pm
Why did they change from the old system?
I want to cry!
Post by: Edmund on June 27, 2010, 09:29:15 pm
Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 09:32:02 pm
Namely, the university fucking over people's lives just because their student numbers are like, further down on a list.
I am so cut about this system.
Post by: champorado on June 27, 2010, 09:35:23 pm
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Dear Robert,
Unfortunately you will not be able to make any changes to your enrolment as yet
(including breadth). The re-enrolment period for Semester 2 usually begins 2-3 weeks
prior to the start of Semester 2 - As such, I have given you a date of 12 July.
They say I can change my subjects in two weeks. Timetables open up tomorrow. Hooray! What's great is that not only won't I be allowed to switch my breadth, they also randomly removed one of my subjects in the past week, so I'll only be able to effectively register for two subjects that I'm actually doing next sem. I finally learnt how to work alloc8 this sem, too. :(
Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 09:46:07 pm
That is so ridiculous.
That is actually the most annoying thing I have heard.
Other downsides - to go on a wait list, you have to withdraw from any classes you're already registered in.
What the fuck?
Post by: chops_07 on June 27, 2010, 09:51:16 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on June 27, 2010, 09:52:33 pm
Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 10:01:03 pm
Does anyone reckon timetable will be available before 10am?My guess is going to be yes.
Everything is always available before the time.
Even VCE results.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on June 27, 2010, 10:05:56 pm
Post by: gemgem49 on June 27, 2010, 10:07:00 pm
Post by: AzureBlue on June 27, 2010, 10:08:08 pm
this is for semester two? how lame, if i do get in and they finally tell me im going to have the worst timetable ever -_-Do you get to choose what tutorials and lectures you get put in provided that the classes are not full?
Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 10:10:19 pm
They're like
GO TO YOUR STUDY PLAN.
HOW? fjkkskssjd.
Yes you do get to choose.
However, if you want to choose a class you're not enrolled in, you have to wait until everything is overfull and full and then you just can't do it anymore.
Good system.
Post by: AzureBlue on June 27, 2010, 10:13:13 pm
Don't bother the videos are so confusing.LOL What do you mean you need to wait til they're full; that's annoying...
They're like
GO TO YOUR STUDY PLAN.
HOW? fjkkskssjd.
Yes you do get to choose.
However, if you want to choose a class you're not enrolled in, you have to wait until everything is overfull and full and then you just can't do it anymore.
Good system.
Post by: crappy on June 27, 2010, 11:13:35 pm
Post by: simpak on June 27, 2010, 11:33:48 pm
Post by: d0minicz on June 27, 2010, 11:34:30 pm
Post by: Noblesse on June 27, 2010, 11:36:12 pm
Post by: Noblesse on June 27, 2010, 11:45:28 pm
Post by: d0minicz on June 28, 2010, 12:03:58 am
cant see a timetable
Post by: vexx on June 28, 2010, 12:05:28 am
Does anyone reckon timetable will be available before 10am?My guess is going to be yes.
Everything is always available before the time.
Even VCE results.
wot?
...may i ask how? tehe
Post by: simpak on June 28, 2010, 12:15:03 am
Does anyone reckon timetable will be available before 10am?My guess is going to be yes.
Everything is always available before the time.
Even VCE results.
wot?
...may i ask how? tehe
No like a few mins before 7am lol.
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 09:08:58 am
I'm also missing a subject from the popup portal enrolment thing, but it appears on my academic record, so check that before you get too concerned. My subjects were meant to open for editing today but they're still locked, so I'm just going to try again tomorrow.
@Mavis, I also have core subjects (biomed) so it could be that i guess, but I doubt it since a lot of other people are having trouble as well.
If you want to move into overfull tutorials, your student center will do it for you as long as you have a reason (work/can't get home/etc.)
Post by: Nick on June 28, 2010, 09:19:44 am
I have a subject missing from my enrolment record too (from semester one) but it appears on my pending results statement so I assume it's just a glitch due to the upgrading of the portal.
Post by: username on June 28, 2010, 09:39:55 am
I miss alloc8.
Post by: Nick on June 28, 2010, 09:50:11 am
I think it's pretty manageable. If you 'generate a clash free timetable' first, it's basically identical to alloc8 except that if you get in early, it increases your chances of getting into the classes you want :)
Post by: username on June 28, 2010, 09:52:32 am
Which part of the video do you find confusing?
I think it's pretty manageable. If you 'generate a clash free timetable' first, it's basically identical to alloc8 except that if you get in early, it increases your chances of getting into the classes you want :)
Watched it again and I think I'm okay with it now. Just wasn't sure why the subjects didn't show up side by side.
So everyone else has 'Registration closed' next to their subjects right?
Post by: username on June 28, 2010, 09:52:59 am
Class Registrations are currently disabled.
Please try again in 1 hour.
SDFJSAFHSD;KFL;SDNC
Post by: Noblesse on June 28, 2010, 09:55:04 am
lovely
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 09:58:05 am
I had a sanction on my account but I filled in contact details for guardians and entered some survey for an iPod and the sanction was removed...
Post by: username on June 28, 2010, 10:00:54 am
Post by: ice_blockie on June 28, 2010, 10:01:59 am
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 10:06:55 am
Also, portal is laggy as hell normally, it's atrocious this morning with everyone logging on :(
Post by: jasrulz63 on June 28, 2010, 10:14:52 am
Post by: Noblesse on June 28, 2010, 10:16:14 am
WTF, GO AWAY YOU STUPID SANCTION.
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 10:16:23 am
I clicked on Generate clash free timetable and all that comes up after 15 minutes is Page cannot be displayed :tickedoff:
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 10:19:38 am
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Why would they integrate the timetabling system into what's already a shit and laggy Portal
It's a nightmare. There's a reason why I haven't ever used the portal in the last couple of years...
Post by: jasrulz63 on June 28, 2010, 10:20:09 am
When I try to choose classes. Greatttt
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 10:24:18 am
Post by: jasrulz63 on June 28, 2010, 10:25:05 am
Post by: simpak on June 28, 2010, 10:26:21 am
I have put in one.
Tried to enter the next one.
Was like fail.
Also called Uni, they are still making me submit a form.
Post by: iamdan08 on June 28, 2010, 10:27:09 am
Post by: username on June 28, 2010, 10:27:42 am
I've got 3 down. One to go.
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 10:31:01 am
alright so I've added my new breadth subject, but I can't enrol due to some sanctions...
lovely
How do you change your breadth subject?
Post by: simpak on June 28, 2010, 10:31:35 am
Good.
At least it registered the one thing you would want it to.
Post by: simpak on June 28, 2010, 10:31:51 am
alright so I've added my new breadth subject, but I can't enrol due to some sanctions...
lovely
How do you change your breadth subject?
YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM GDHGUDHGUIH
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 10:32:39 am
This is so frustrating. I have been waiting for it too load for the last 15 minutes. As for changing subjects, i spoke to the student centre about changing and they said you can't change subjects until a week before uni starts because of the new portal upgrades.
I changed subjects a couple of days ago. Use your study plan, mine is still letting me change them without filling out a form or anything.
e, although that was the case an hour ago, i now can't access my study plan so i have no idea if it still works
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 10:33:36 am
Where can I get the form :(alright so I've added my new breadth subject, but I can't enrol due to some sanctions...
lovely
How do you change your breadth subject?
YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM GDHGUDHGUIH
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 10:34:19 am
Either way you need to drop them off at your student center
Post by: laynie on June 28, 2010, 10:36:22 am
Post by: simpak on June 28, 2010, 10:36:38 am
Fill in a form for both and fax.
They said 1-2 days to me.
Anyway, I GOT IN TO DO PROF WRITING WHICH HAS LIKE 2 TUTES NOT ON A FRIDAY AND THEN IT WAS LIKE 'LOL NO, PAGE BROKED'
Post by: Noblesse on June 28, 2010, 10:36:47 am
alright so I've added my new breadth subject, but I can't enrol due to some sanctions...
lovely
How do you change your breadth subject?
I just 'Withdrew' from my old breadth subject in the study plan, then clicked 'Choose' in the vacant subject slot and chose my subject, but I can't 'enrol' yet, just added.
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 10:38:51 am
http://www.studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/187504/UG-SubjectChangeApplicationForm.pdf
Post by: jasrulz63 on June 28, 2010, 10:39:13 am
Post by: simpak on June 28, 2010, 10:39:51 am
I have only registered for two subjects, now it refuses to load at all.
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 10:40:57 am
argh all i need to do is change my short fiction tute from friday to tuesday
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 10:50:26 am
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 10:53:27 am
This screen is temporarily unavailable. We are working to resolve the issue. If you need to complete this transaction urgently, please contact your your student centre or graduate school.
GAH STILL CAN'T ENROL IN ANY CLASSES
Post by: Noblesse on June 28, 2010, 10:54:01 am
Because of the new system, they are still converting data, they are still on first years. They plan to 'tackle' second year data around next week. Then I can add new subjects and add them to my timetable.
Thank you Melbourne.
You are awful.
Post by: laynie on June 28, 2010, 10:55:13 am
Just rang the commerce student centre:Ah that must suck for third years.
Because of the new system, they are still converting data, they are still on first years. They plan to 'tackle' second year data around next week. Then I can add new subjects and add them to my timetable.
Thank you Melbourne.
You are awful.
Post by: jasrulz63 on June 28, 2010, 10:57:19 am
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 11:06:24 am
Post by: Nick on June 28, 2010, 11:10:21 am
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 11:12:43 am
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 11:16:00 am
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 11:24:42 am
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 11:28:43 am
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 11:32:31 am
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 11:57:31 am
Giving up for now, hopefully later there are less people hogging it.
Post by: AzureBlue on June 28, 2010, 12:15:33 pm
Is there any way to find out which lecturer is taking which lecture etc.?
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on June 28, 2010, 12:23:08 pm
This is incredibly stressful.
Alloc8 was heaps better.
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 01:43:12 pm
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 01:46:15 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 01:59:03 pm
Post by: username on June 28, 2010, 02:00:27 pm
What you went into the uni?
I did. And they were most helpful.
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 02:03:12 pm
Post by: ninwa on June 28, 2010, 02:10:11 pm
*runs for her life*
Post by: enwiabe on June 28, 2010, 02:11:57 pm
UoM administration is just dumb.
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 02:15:12 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 02:16:13 pm
I fail to see how Monash, with far more students in far more subjects manages to timetable its classes without any issue whatsoever and the GREAT UNIVERSITY OF MELBOURNE can't even make 10% of its students happy. I am yet to hear a SINGLE complaint about the monash timetabling system. How hard is it to get right? The software is readily available, it clearly works on a larger scale.
UoM administration is just dumb.
So true!
Post by: TrueLight on June 28, 2010, 02:44:17 pm
COME TO MONASH, WE HAVE ALLOCATE+
*runs for her life*
lol! yes our timetable system is good
Post by: d0minicz on June 28, 2010, 03:04:22 pm
and thers clashes
nice =]
Post by: AppleThief on June 28, 2010, 06:04:48 pm
Post by: Noblesse on June 28, 2010, 06:18:08 pm
My only problem is the changing subject delay, however that should be cleared up soon, and that is only a problem because of the conversion (which takes a while, understandably - still annoying though). It should be perfect for next year.
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 06:52:12 pm
Ok I just handed in my Change of subjects form and I was told to wait about 2 weeks for it to be processed since they have gotemails and forms to get through. Disaster as usual ;)
From what I can tell if you'd changed it before timetabling opened you could have done it instantly, online (what I did).
Fixed my timetable, no days off (well i wasn't expecting any) but no long breaks either. The system is nice and useful when it works, but it doesn't hold up to high volume of students accessing it :(
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 07:12:02 pm
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 07:12:52 pm
Yeah it wouldn't let me do it because of the sanctionsOk I just handed in my Change of subjects form and I was told to wait about 2 weeks for it to be processed since they have got
From what I can tell if you'd changed it before timetabling opened you could have done it instantly, online (what I did).
Fixed my timetable, no days off (well i wasn't expecting any) but no long breaks either. The system is nice and useful when it works, but it doesn't hold up to high volume of students accessing it :(
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 07:29:08 pm
Post by: Noblesse on June 28, 2010, 07:30:06 pm
WTF is the sanctions?
An epic way of saying "we are not ready so we shall make up a word to make it seem like you are the one at fault".
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 28, 2010, 07:47:16 pm
The only thing I need to do is wait for a pending subject change request and find a way to squeeze that onto my timetable.
Despite all the negative comments, I can only praise UoM for changing to the new system because unlike our friends (or rivals depending on how you look at it) at Monash, we've had our timetable generated for us in previous years and if you're doing a course which has a gazillion contact hours, then it's hard to change lecture streams and tute times to suit your availability especially if they are full. With this new system, we can create from scratch to work around us.
Personally, I've found this system easy to use. Some negatives are that it's very slow to load and I've had one error page so far. Also, it is also very crowded and there's a lot of information to take in. Can you imagine a brand, spanking new Jaffy in 2011 trying to create their own timetable with this system? I would imagine they would get heart palpitations and just die of a heart attack before the semester even starts considering all the administrative tasks they would have had to do beforehand.
Post by: Russ on June 28, 2010, 07:53:25 pm
Yeah it wouldn't let me do it because of the sanctions
Did you try before today? Because I had a sanction a couple of weeks ago and it got removed after I tried to change subjects/filled out some info that was missing. Is the system working for everyone else now at least?
And to whoever it was that asked, no you can't see which lecturers take which streams (but if you absolutely must have one, just go to their lecture instead, nobody will know)
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Despite all the negative comments, I can only praise UoM for changing to the new system
Oh, the new system is more useful than alloc8, it's just that combining it with the portal has made it a nightmare in terms of lag and browsers crashing
Post by: ReVeL on June 28, 2010, 08:01:33 pm
I fail to see how Monash, with far more students in far more subjects manages to timetable its classes without any issue whatsoever and the GREAT UNIVERSITY OF MELBOURNE can't even make 10% of its students happy. I am yet to hear a SINGLE complaint about the monash timetabling system. How hard is it to get right? The software is readily available, it clearly works on a larger scale.
UoM administration is just dumb.
I think they have got it right. Only thing I'm pissed with is my breadth only has tutes on fucking fridays...
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 28, 2010, 08:15:09 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on June 28, 2010, 08:28:10 pm
Post by: Edmund on June 28, 2010, 08:40:36 pm
Yeah I filled out all the stuff tried the week before and the Student Center weren't entertaining subject changes when I went there :(Yeah it wouldn't let me do it because of the sanctions
Did you try before today? Because I had a sanction a couple of weeks ago and it got removed after I tried to change subjects/filled out some info that was missing. Is the system working for everyone else now at least?
And to whoever it was that asked, no you can't see which lecturers take which streams (but if you absolutely must have one, just go to their lecture instead, nobody will know)QuoteDespite all the negative comments, I can only praise UoM for changing to the new system
Oh, the new system is more useful than alloc8, it's just that combining it with the portal has made it a nightmare in terms of lag and browsers crashing
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 28, 2010, 09:13:13 pm
I can't do anything to change my breadth subject since I have some sanction on me. Oh well my other subjects are cool, but as for breadth. FML
Have you checked your uni email?
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Dear Student
As you are aware the University has recently implemented a new student
system (ISIS). A number of unexpected issues have arisen in the
implementation of this system and some changes are now required to the
advice to students about the process for changing subjects for semester
2 2010. The Student Timetable (Class Registration) opened today and the
EPSC is working towards ensuring students wanting to make changes to
their semester 2 2010 enrolments can do so as soon as possible in order
to access the Timetable.
At this stage most students will not have access to change their
subjects via the Student Portal. If you are looking at changing
subjects for semester 2 2010 immediately, you can apply to do so
directly to the EPSC - either via email or hardcopy.
Important:
If you are looking at adding a subject to your enrolment, please ensure
that:
* You have satisfied any prerequisites/co-requisites as listed
in the 2010 Handbook entry.
* The subject fits within the course structure of your degree.
* You indicate the subject that you want replaced in your
semester 2 enrolment - if your enrolment is already full-time. (i.e.
Requests to overload in semester 2 will not be considered until results
from semester 1 are released).
If you are sending a request via email please note the following:
* The email must be sent from your University ITS account
* Send to [email protected]
* Include in the Subject Field: "Subject Change Request Semester
2, 2010"
* Include your name, your student ID and your course
* Include the NEW subject code and subject name of the subject/s
you want added. Refer to the 2010 Handbook for NEW codes. New codes are
a combination of 4 letters and 5 digits e.g. BIOL10004.
* Include the NEW subject code and subject name of the subject/s
you want deleted from your semester 2 enrolment. New codes are a
combination of 4 letters and 5 digits e.g. BIOL10004.
* Include a statement that you acknowledge that you have
satisfied the subject's prerequisites/co-requisites (if appropriate)
The EPSC will attempt to process your request within 3 working days. If
approved, the enrolment amendment can be viewed via the Student Portal.
Please bear in mind that this is a peak time in the EPSC and we are
expecting a large number of students will wish to amend their subjects.
As these changes need to be processed manually and will take some time
within ISIS your patience would be appreciated.
Margot Eden
Manager, Eastern Precinct Student Centre
I think those two methods in the email are the only two ways of changing subjects for semester 2.
Post by: Russ on June 29, 2010, 08:45:08 am
Post by: Nick on June 29, 2010, 09:58:18 am
It's from one of the faculties which would not be Arts. Arts would never send something out like that; it would require too much organisation on their part lol.
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 29, 2010, 05:09:12 pm
Post by: Russ on June 29, 2010, 06:58:36 pm
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 29, 2010, 07:06:11 pm
Yeah that's what concerns me, since I've gotten previous emails from them but not that one. Oh well, not a big deal, my S2 timetable is set.
If you're doing either of those three degrees, I think you should have received the email. Otherwise, something is seriously screwed up, not just the portal/timetabling system.
Post by: ReVeL on June 29, 2010, 07:20:22 pm
I'm trying to access the timetable (which I could do so easily last night) through the Admin tab, but when I click it, it comes up with a login screen. I've tried many times but still get the 'your logon was unsuccesful' bullshit.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on June 29, 2010, 11:53:02 pm
I can't swap out of my classes - it comes up with an error msg. I'm stressed :(
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on June 30, 2010, 12:54:10 am
As time passes, I'm sure we'll see all these errors ironed out and we'll be up to speed with Monash.
nahhhhhh.
Post by: Russ on June 30, 2010, 08:10:02 am
Does anyone else have this problem?
I can't swap out of my classes - it comes up with an error msg. I'm stressed :(
Mine often gave me an error but made the change anyway?
Don't stress too much it's only been a couple of days, you've got a while yet to make changes.
Post by: simpak on June 30, 2010, 08:57:11 pm
Lucky I wanted a 9am tutorial on a Monday.
Post by: QuantumJG on June 30, 2010, 09:21:04 pm
Post by: username on June 30, 2010, 09:21:10 pm
They allowed me to register in classes for MBB2 today.
Lucky I wanted a 9am tutorial on a Monday.
I hope you get a good tutor. My tutor for the first semester was soooo bad - made us stay for the whole 2 hours every week to yap about how much she hated yogurt.
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 30, 2010, 09:25:57 pm
Post by: asa.hoshi on June 30, 2010, 09:38:45 pm
There's been a new email going around to science students saying that we can change our subjects via the study plan. I can't seem to do that. Has anyone been successful?yeh! it worked for me. but it sucks because all the good tutorial times are already taken up. so im just gonna turn up to the tutorial that fits my timetable the best...
Post by: squance on June 30, 2010, 11:29:27 pm
Can't register into two lab classes yet because they are currently unavailable.
My timetable isn't 100% confirmed though because I still have to decide whether or not I want to stick with my elective.
Post by: Russ on July 01, 2010, 09:32:19 am
There's been a new email going around to science students saying that we can change our subjects via the study plan. I can't seem to do that. Has anyone been successful?
I have, but I changed my subjects before the timetable opened. Use the withdraw button at the bottom to delete a subject and the enrol button to add one.
Won't work if you have sanctions though :(
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 01, 2010, 02:02:26 pm
EDIT: The video mislead me. When I watched it, I thought you had to add your subject in first then withdraw from the subject you don't want. Instead, I followed Russ' method of withdrawing and then adding and it worked. Of course Russ' method is the most logical, but from the video I'm not too sure.
Post by: Russ on July 01, 2010, 02:29:18 pm
I remember being confused by the video as well. I think you use the check boxes for future years (ie where you don't already have a subject selected)
Or, far more likely, uni stuffed up.
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 01, 2010, 03:52:18 pm
So it worked for you?
I remember being confused by the video as well. I think you use the check boxes for future years (ie where you don't already have a subject selected)
Or, far more likely, uni stuffed up.
Yes, it worked for me after I followed your method - ie. withdraw from the subject you don't want, then add the subject you want (not the other way around like the video pre-empted).
After thinking about it, yeah, I think the check boxes are for next year and following years when we have no subjects selected. It makes sense now.
Post by: simpak on July 01, 2010, 03:55:01 pm
And it's still not open yet.
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 01, 2010, 03:56:30 pm
Mine is so confusing because in Media Comm, you choose one of two pathways and it's showing both but it's MUDDLED ALL MY SUBJECTS into core and non core categories it's too hard to understand D:
And it's still not open yet.
The tree is pretty confusing but try collapsing all the branches and open up only the ones you really want to see. In some cases, it might be a bit clearer but if you're still having difficulties, you can try bug your Student Centre.
Post by: simpak on July 01, 2010, 04:00:13 pm
Mine is so confusing because in Media Comm, you choose one of two pathways and it's showing both but it's MUDDLED ALL MY SUBJECTS into core and non core categories it's too hard to understand D:
And it's still not open yet.
The tree is pretty confusing but try collapsing all the branches and open up only the ones you really want to see. In some cases, it might be a bit clearer but if you're still having difficulties, you can try bug your Student Centre.
I think I will just avoid using it as often as possible!
I already know which pathway I have chosen, so hopefully the other one will disappear soon and it won't be ridiculously messy and telling me I p. much have to complete like 484923 credit points for my degree.
Post by: Voltaire on July 01, 2010, 04:06:57 pm
Post by: simpak on July 01, 2010, 04:17:24 pm
Is there anyway to change subjects if you have sanctions (I'm not a science/eng student) without having to go into uni ?
You have to submit a form.
Go to your student center homepage and it should be there.
What degree are you taking? If arts I can just link to the form.
Post by: iamdan08 on July 01, 2010, 04:22:41 pm
She told me they have been inundated with requests and have received over 500 emails for subject changes! lol so she said to not expect it to be enrolled for at least 5 days.
Post by: simpak on July 01, 2010, 06:55:10 pm
I have changed subjects via the study plan, however rather than saying enrolled it says planned and i can't change it because of the sanctions. I just called the student center and they told me to send that email thing to them (which I've already done).
She told me they have been inundated with requests and have received over 500 emails for subject changes! lol so she said to not expect it to be enrolled for at least 5 days.
Fill out the form as if you were changing subjects and fax it.
If you fax it it takes like 12 hours.
Post by: monokekie on July 01, 2010, 07:24:18 pm
Post by: dcc on July 01, 2010, 08:13:28 pm
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on July 01, 2010, 09:26:30 pm
Post by: laynie on July 01, 2010, 09:47:54 pm
Just thought I'd leave this here, I enrolled in all of my subjects without hassle and have gotten my perfect timetable, (4 days, late starts, optional 3 day week if CA and DM are shit).
Likewise, wasn't a problem for me either, 3 days. :)
Post by: darlok on July 01, 2010, 09:57:03 pm
Post by: Noblesse on July 01, 2010, 10:33:00 pm
whats the haps with commerce
Just got an email, need to submit a form as well -_-
They want it in person, or a scan. I wonder if I could just edit the document to show my details and send it in...that should be fine imo.
Post by: simpak on July 02, 2010, 12:39:00 am
Wut up?
Post by: Russ on July 02, 2010, 09:23:11 am
5 days, mostly 9am starts, late finishes.
Post by: dcc on July 02, 2010, 10:24:12 am
Damn arts students with their 3 day weeks.
5 days, mostly 9am starts, late finishes.
I'm a science student and I had 3 days for Semester 1 :) (tuesday/wednesday/thursday = long weekend)
Post by: ReVeL on July 02, 2010, 05:23:01 pm
whats the haps with commerce
Just got an email, need to submit a form as well -_-
They want it in person, or a scan. I wonder if I could just edit the document to show my details and send it in...that should be fine imo.
Is this for the imposed sanction shown in the study plan? I have one too, but I've just been ignoring it totally. If yes, what form do we have to fill out/hand in? Cheerss
Post by: Noblesse on July 02, 2010, 05:27:55 pm
whats the haps with commerce
Just got an email, need to submit a form as well -_-
They want it in person, or a scan. I wonder if I could just edit the document to show my details and send it in...that should be fine imo.
Is this for the imposed sanction shown in the study plan? I have one too, but I've just been ignoring it totally. If yes, what form do we have to fill out/hand in? Cheerss
I have no idea, I've just sent in a filled out scanned form (http://www.csc.unimelb.edu.au/planning/selection.html) and hope they either enroll me or just ignore it, and I'll do it myself when the 'sanction' is taken away.
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 02, 2010, 05:58:01 pm
By the way, you can view your sanctions through the portal on the admin page.
Why do you do this UoM?
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on July 02, 2010, 07:07:06 pm
Post by: enwiabe on July 02, 2010, 07:19:19 pm
was pretty pissed off, took me like 10 mins to decide on my preferred timetable >_> fingers crossed that when the system automatically sorts everyone's preferences for them it gives me my #1 preferred timetable like it has, every semester, for the past 5 semesters
:D
Post by: Edmund on July 02, 2010, 07:43:49 pm
Post by: monokekie on July 02, 2010, 07:47:02 pm
Post by: Nick on July 02, 2010, 08:11:26 pm
i entered in my monash preferences today
was pretty pissed off, took me like 10 mins to decide on my preferred timetable >_> fingers crossed that when the system automatically sorts everyone's preferences for them it gives me my #1 preferred timetable like it has, every semester, for the past 5 semesters
:D
LOL.
I constructed my timetable on the day it opened within a timeframe of about 15 minutes. No hassles at all. Got spots in all the lectures and tutorials that I wanted. It's just the luck of the draw.
There will always be issues when a new computer system is implemented- it's inevitable, regardless of the academic institution implicated.
The only reason that everyone is having trouble changing subjects is because the student portal is being upgraded and study plans are being generated. They just decided to do it at a very inconvenient time.
Post by: enwiabe on July 02, 2010, 11:54:04 pm
i entered in my monash preferences today
was pretty pissed off, took me like 10 mins to decide on my preferred timetable >_> fingers crossed that when the system automatically sorts everyone's preferences for them it gives me my #1 preferred timetable like it has, every semester, for the past 5 semesters
:D
LOL.
I constructed my timetable on the day it opened within a timeframe of about 15 minutes. No hassles at all. Got spots in all the lectures and tutorials that I wanted. It's just the luck of the draw.
There will always be issues when a new computer system is implemented- it's inevitable, regardless of the academic institution implicated.
The only reason that everyone is having trouble changing subjects is because the student portal is being upgraded and study plans are being generated. They just decided to do it at a very inconvenient time.
i know, i'm just ribbing the uom people :P
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on July 03, 2010, 12:14:02 am
Post by: Edmund on July 03, 2010, 11:00:45 am
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1416/sdfdsfdsfds.jpg)
Post by: Russ on July 03, 2010, 11:06:55 am
Post by: simpak on July 03, 2010, 11:47:09 am
Student center didn't process her subject change and then when she tried to register for tutes none were there and it just said 'Unavailable?'
But they will open more tutes soon!
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 04, 2010, 02:17:31 pm
Is anyone getting 'Unavailable' tutes? How do you get on the waiting list?
I know. It's so misleading. I actually had my hopes up when I heard about this new "waiting list" and I thought it would be pretty cool. Needless to say, I'm pretty disappointed with UoM's idea of a "waiting list".
Post by: Edmund on July 04, 2010, 05:22:39 pm
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on July 04, 2010, 06:51:36 pm
Post by: david42 on July 05, 2010, 12:05:36 am
Do I need to do anything about this, or will it resolve itself once the student centre have done their thing? "Temporary" suggests I don't need to worry, but it says "contact your local Student Centre" to have it lifted (I'm wondering if it means to have it lifted immediately, rather than once the student centre do whatever they need to do..). Anyone know?
I like the new timetable system, but these "sanction" things are weird. Why use such a serious word if it's only a temporary admin issue..?
Post by: Russ on July 05, 2010, 09:02:56 am
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 05, 2010, 04:28:54 pm
Admin's useless :(
Really? I've been to the Commerce Student Centre (undergraduate one) and I found they were pretty helpful.
But you've got to feel for arts students though. I've heard that their student centre on the other hand...
Post by: Edmund on July 05, 2010, 06:32:15 pm
Post by: Edmund on July 10, 2010, 12:15:45 pm
Post by: asa.hoshi on July 12, 2010, 09:11:52 am
Finally enrolled in all my subjects. Can't enroll in specific classes just yet, they are all full :buck2:i think you can now? before all my classes were unavailable. but now, i can register into any class i want. so you better hurry before all the tutorial times you want gets full...
Post by: Edmund on July 12, 2010, 09:39:32 am
Yeah woke up early just for that :P But there's still one subject not on the timetable...Finally enrolled in all my subjects. Can't enroll in specific classes just yet, they are all full :buck2:i think you can now? before all my classes were unavailable. but now, i can register into any class i want. so you better hurry before all the tutorial times you want gets full...
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 16, 2010, 09:21:23 am
Rang up today, since it's been 10 working days, and get told, that it won't get done by classes start on the 26th. Which means I now have no say in my timetable, when the unavailable classes open on the 21st. :(
Apparently they have 5 people processing the 1000 or so subject changes...
Post by: Edmund on July 16, 2010, 10:33:18 am
Post by: ReVeL on July 16, 2010, 11:19:17 am
Post by: Russ on July 16, 2010, 11:22:48 am
If not, it's a bug.
Post by: d0minicz on July 16, 2010, 11:30:50 am
Post by: ReVeL on July 16, 2010, 11:42:38 am
Did you do it last semester? Because they've added s2 but haven't deleted s1 yet.Nah I did it S2 last year... So yeah I guess it's a bug.
If not, it's a bug.
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 16, 2010, 01:50:19 pm
It will take a while :( I've been waiting over 4 weeks already, timetable still incomplete
Apparently they're are up to submissions done on the 26th June or so.
Post by: Edmund on July 16, 2010, 03:51:29 pm
Yeah, I had my initial problems fixed but more problems came up as a result so I have to wait for my turn againIt will take a while :( I've been waiting over 4 weeks already, timetable still incomplete
Apparently they're are up to submissions done on the 26th June or so.
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 16, 2010, 07:11:32 pm
Post by: Noblesse on July 16, 2010, 07:59:05 pm
Is anyone elses LMS kinda fucked up? It says I'm enrolled in Introductory Macroeconomics... which I've already done.
lol I'm apparently enrolled in it too, missing Business Finance :/
Post by: Edmund on July 16, 2010, 08:26:15 pm
Ah bugger. When you put it in again?About 9th
Post by: laynie on July 17, 2010, 09:31:29 am
Is anyone elses LMS kinda fucked up? It says I'm enrolled in Introductory Macroeconomics... which I've already done.missing Business Finance :/
Same.. was there yesterday morning now gone.
Post by: Russ on July 17, 2010, 10:24:22 am
Post by: squance on July 17, 2010, 10:53:26 am
Its annoying.
Post by: Russ on July 17, 2010, 11:03:12 am
Apparently my tutes extend to 2.5 hours halfway through semester...which means they now clash with another subject. Gah.
Post by: QuantumJG on July 17, 2010, 11:25:43 am
Apart from 1 clash I'm pretty happy!
Post by: squance on July 17, 2010, 11:39:22 am
Are they your only lectures for that subject? That'd be irritating.
Yup. Chemical Engineering subjects only have one lecture stream :(
One of them is a core subject for me and the other is a chemical engineering elective (the only elective I can choose since I don't have prereqs for the other elective)
Post by: laynie on July 17, 2010, 03:04:11 pm
This is my timetablelol at tuesday and thursday
Apart from 1 clash I'm pretty happy!
Post by: simpak on July 19, 2010, 02:07:52 am
This is my timetable
Apart from 1 clash I'm pretty happy!
Lol so many contact hours.
Counter attack:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs072.ash2/36951_10150218199915438_558030437_13225659_7091215_n.jpg
But of course I don't have to attend that MBB2 lecture on a Thursday night if I don't wish to.
Post by: Russ on July 19, 2010, 09:50:12 am
e, what do you actually do in psych pracs?
Post by: simpak on July 19, 2010, 11:16:37 am
I am being srs. It was just QM and everyone already knows it from high school.
Our tutor always used to let us leave one hour in to the two hour prac.
Post by: ReVeL on July 19, 2010, 05:32:13 pm
Post by: Noblesse on July 19, 2010, 06:27:47 pm
Assuming I don't go to 1 lecture on thursday I have a two day week, with tues thurs and fri off. Win
What are you doing for breadth this semester? Was it Corporate law?
I've got a two day week as well (skipping 2x1hour lectures)
Post by: Edmund on July 19, 2010, 06:36:03 pm
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3471/ttttt.jpg)
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 19, 2010, 07:21:17 pm
Yeah you do nothing in Psych pracs.
I am being srs. It was just QM and everyone already knows it from high school.
Our tutor always used to let us leave one hour in to the two hour prac.
That. It never goes for the full 2 hours so I had it at the end of the day where I could go home early. It didn't really cover or reinforce anything taught in the lectures and to be truly honest with you, it was pretty much useless. the subject would still function exceptionally without the pracs/tutes/labs (whatever you want to call them as the psych department treats them as the same thing). In fact it would probably be even better without of the labs - 2 hours off my total contact hours. Can't complain about that. :)
Shame attendance is recorded and is a hurdle requirement to attend at least 80% of them.
EDIT: Edmund, you have a really awesome timetable. It really sucks being a first year.
Post by: d0minicz on July 19, 2010, 07:27:24 pm
Post by: Russ on July 19, 2010, 08:40:46 pm
Post by: Edmund on July 19, 2010, 08:58:52 pm
It should look like this if they actually decide to fix things
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3859/timetablenew.jpg)
Post by: d0minicz on July 19, 2010, 09:42:25 pm
Post by: laynie on July 19, 2010, 09:53:00 pm
Post by: ReVeL on July 20, 2010, 10:08:47 am
Assuming I don't go to 1 lecture on thursday I have a two day week, with tues thurs and fri off. Win
What are you doing for breadth this semester? Was it Corporate law?
I've got a two day week as well (skipping 2x1hour lectures)
Actually doing 2 breadth, corporate law and the second property subject even though I hated the first one, but it seems fairly easy and cbf looking for a new sub. How did you find corporate law (you did it last year right)?
And good stuff with that 2 day week haha could get used to this
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 20, 2010, 05:14:01 pm
Post by: Noblesse on July 20, 2010, 06:16:21 pm
Assuming I don't go to 1 lecture on thursday I have a two day week, with tues thurs and fri off. Win
What are you doing for breadth this semester? Was it Corporate law?
I've got a two day week as well (skipping 2x1hour lectures)
Actually doing 2 breadth, corporate law and the second property subject even though I hated the first one, but it seems fairly easy and cbf looking for a new sub. How did you find corporate law (you did it last year right)?
And good stuff with that 2 day week haha could get used to this
Ah yes, same here 2 breadth (evidently we are both following the accounting + finance plan in the 2009 course planner lol). Corporate law was lol. It felt like a real law subject (complete with a 3.5 hour final exam) *slightly* dumbed down. The textbook looks daunting, and you have 'discussion groups' instead of tutorials. Ultimately, the course content is not that difficult. You get a choice for assessment, either 100% for final exam or 85% final exam with a 15% assignment. I did the assignment, just so it felt more like an accounting subject (ie. 70% exam). Overall, if you complete all the textbook questions (which you discuss in tutorials anyway), its hard to go wrong with the subject.
I'm doing Business Analytics (level 3 IT sub) and International Politics (arts subject).
Watch me get owned.
Post by: ReVeL on July 20, 2010, 09:10:30 pm
Haha yeah pretty much following that study plan 100%, which is nice because the stability is good but it gets a little dull in that I don't get any choice in units apart from a few breadth subjects.
All I can say is good luck with your arts subject, you're more of a man that me for picking it haha. But really I'm sure you'll kill it anyway.
Post by: Noblesse on July 20, 2010, 10:59:48 pm
All I can say is good luck with your arts subject, you're more of a man that me for picking it haha. But really I'm sure you'll kill it anyway.
Haha, thats scared me off now. Changing to the *hopefully* bludgy Internet Meets Society (I'm such a hypocrite lol)
Still fits in with my timetable (better actually), still 2 days :D
Post by: laynie on July 20, 2010, 11:06:59 pm
Hopefully Corp Law isn't too bad, just looking on LMS, two chapters of readings a week!? :buck2:
Post by: Noblesse on July 20, 2010, 11:29:20 pm
Hopefully Corp Law isn't too bad, just looking on LMS, two chapters of readings a week!? :buck2:
The reading is really easy though, hardly any cases to memorize (unlike PBL), can have any book in the exam.
Post by: laynie on July 21, 2010, 07:26:49 am
Post by: vexx on July 22, 2010, 06:15:52 am
science looks better in terms of contact hours! or would the number of hours be the same if similar subjects are chosen (ex. in second year for science doing anatomy, biochem, physiology among other sciences compared with the compulsory subjects of biomed)
im guessing that biomed is a bit more work than science regardless of science subjects chosen?
Post by: Russ on July 22, 2010, 09:35:38 am
If you took the same subjects in science you'd have similar hours in 1st year and more in 2nd year. 3rd year would depend on your major.
Post by: d0minicz on July 22, 2010, 11:40:48 am
its just the long gaps that annoy me
Post by: Russ on July 22, 2010, 12:39:26 pm
Yeah, my timetable this semester is the first time I've had major gaps. Sucks :(
Post by: vexx on July 22, 2010, 04:14:11 pm
22 hrs
its just the long gaps that annoy me
wow that's quite a lot from what i've heard from people who have ~12 hours in arts and such ahah.
i couldn't imagine science being more then that.. if it is than i must stay clear of science :o
you are second year, yeah?
Post by: Russ on July 22, 2010, 04:23:40 pm
So that's 21 hours, and if you take an arts breadth (usually 3 contact hours split over lectures/tutes) you're up to 24.
But if pracs don't run every week, you can cut a bit off that :)
Post by: d0minicz on July 22, 2010, 06:37:54 pm
if you were talking to me, nah im first year22 hrs
its just the long gaps that annoy me
wow that's quite a lot from what i've heard from people who have ~12 hours in arts and such ahah.
i couldn't imagine science being more then that.. if it is than i must stay clear of science :o
you are second year, yeah?
nd yeah luckily pracs run every fortnight =]
Post by: vexx on July 22, 2010, 06:45:41 pm
Depends on subjects. If you do chem/bio/physics 101 in science, you'll be looking at 3 lectures + 1 tute + 1 prac = 7 hours per subject/week.
So that's 21 hours, and if you take an arts breadth (usually 3 contact hours split over lectures/tutes) you're up to 24.
But if pracs don't run every week, you can cut a bit off that :)
oh yeah wow that's quite a lot of hours! without pracs it's still like ~18 if arts is breadth.
at least my first semester is going to be cruisy with 2 arts + 2 science subjects so that's fine to get used to things^^
if you were talking to me, nah im first year22 hrs
its just the long gaps that annoy me
wow that's quite a lot from what i've heard from people who have ~12 hours in arts and such ahah.
i couldn't imagine science being more then that.. if it is than i must stay clear of science :o
you are second year, yeah?
nd yeah luckily pracs run every fortnight =]
oooh ok, well your timetable doesn't seem as bad anyone:) in fact it seems quite fun!
so excited for uni ^_^
Post by: ReVeL on July 23, 2010, 10:24:41 am
Post by: squance on July 23, 2010, 11:50:23 am
Now I just have one clash...I don't think they'll remove that one clash :(
Post by: ryley on July 25, 2010, 06:41:08 pm
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 25, 2010, 07:09:59 pm
I enrolled last friday (only received the email to do so thursday night), but none of my subjects are showing up in the lms. Will this resolve iself?
Semester 2 starts tomorrow so if you are at uni, it would be best to drop by the Eastern Precinct Centre and ask them just in case.
Usually when you enrol and select your subjects, you need to give the system time to update and for staff to verify but it's been a while so it's best to double check.
Post by: Noblesse on July 27, 2010, 08:40:11 pm
Post by: squance on July 27, 2010, 09:46:01 pm
Anyone know if you can get the student centres to forcefully move you into full tutorials if you tell them you are working other times? That worked under the old system...
Well, today I went to the student centre to move a lab that was clashing with a lecture/tute. There were only two lab classes and one was very overfull. I asked them to put me into the overfull one and they did it for me. :)
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 28, 2010, 04:19:46 pm
Anyone know if you can get the student centres to forcefully move you into full tutorials if you tell them you are working other times? That worked under the old system...
Rules say that you'd either have to have a clash or have a very good reason to move into an overfull class. However, it really depends on your Student Centre. I'm not sure about the commerce one but with the science one, I had several friends who walked in and requested to be moved. They all went in at different times and got what they wanted, although one of them had to sweet talk her way to get her timetable changed.
It all depends on who you're talking to I guess.