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Title: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: onerealsmartass on July 02, 2010, 07:11:14 pm
As the title says, Sequences and series OR matrices???? I am going to study one of these instaed of the business section as i do not like and understand business maths at all and from the work ive done so far on it, it seems very easy to make mistakes.
So what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: vexx on July 02, 2010, 07:20:43 pm
if your doing methods then matrices handsdown.
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: onerealsmartass on July 02, 2010, 08:15:13 pm
if your doing methods then matrices handsdown.
Well i am doing methods CAS units 1+2 cos im in yr 11 doing further and bio 3+4 :) SHould i still choose matrices?
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: physics on July 02, 2010, 08:46:43 pm
matricessssssssssss
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: TrueTears on July 02, 2010, 08:50:16 pm
i do not know the level of sequence and series in further, but they are certainly very fun!

matrices are cool too - gets used alot in linear algebra :)
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: onerealsmartass on July 02, 2010, 09:37:24 pm
sounds like matrices is the way to go atm, but my teacher has advised that i choose sequneces cos shes reckons that is easier...
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: physics on July 02, 2010, 10:20:35 pm
matrices is all calculator so all good
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: TyErd on July 02, 2010, 10:30:06 pm
Yup agreed, do matrices definitely the easier one of the two. I covered the whole matrices section on my own in 4hours. And yeah as annahinh mentioned above, you pretty much use the calculator to do every question. With matrices there kinda limited in the number of problems they can give you. You notice after a while that the problems are repeating themselves. Sequences and series is okay but some questions are a bit ambiguous and you can often find yourself tossing up between two ways of doing a problem. Go with Matrices.
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: naved_s9994 on July 02, 2010, 10:55:15 pm
Matrices is piss easy - having said that I've done it in Spesh 1/2, Methods 1/2, and now Methods 3/4 - Also Further 3/4.
I'd recommend it too anyone doing further...really very simple - straight forward - anyone can get it in no time :)

Go with Matrices. :P
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: kenhung123 on July 02, 2010, 11:04:47 pm
SLightly off topic, is graphs and relations any good?
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: darcy42 on July 02, 2010, 11:07:11 pm
i freakin love graphs and relations, it is so easy. It's all a matter of opinion though, personally i dont mind networks, and havent liked what ive seen of matrices, so yeah it differs person to person
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: akira88 on July 02, 2010, 11:42:19 pm
MATRICES! I did both these modules for the exam- matrices is much more easier! I found sequences and series confusing :(
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: onerealsmartass on July 03, 2010, 06:51:28 pm
Thanks for the feedback guys :) Yeah i think im gonna choose matrices now, i took a look at the stuff we learn and there is only one new conecept whereas in sequences and series im learning a lot of new stuff. So it would be easir for me to do matrices as well because i pretty much know everything already :)
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: stonecold on July 05, 2010, 07:42:28 pm
Yeah, do matrices.  It is pretty easy.  But everything comes down to luck.  In 2008, Matrices question were a bitch on the exam, whilst in 2009, the number patterns questions plain sucked...

Both really easy topics, so I did them both. :D
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: QuantumJG on July 05, 2010, 08:07:15 pm
Wait a second! You do sequences and series in further?

How advanced are your sequences and series? i.e. Do you do convergence tests, iterative sequences, etc?
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: stonecold on July 05, 2010, 08:28:08 pm
umm off the top of my head in number patterns you do:

-first order difference equations
-second order difference equations/Fibonacci sequences
-arithmetic sequences
-geometric sequences
-sum of 'x' amount of terms
-sum to infinity for geometric sequences with -1<r<1

it's not really that advanced haha...


Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: onerealsmartass on July 06, 2010, 07:33:23 pm
umm off the top of my head in number patterns you do:

-first order difference equations
-second order difference equations/Fibonacci sequences
-arithmetic sequences
-geometric sequences
-sum of 'x' amount of terms
-sum to infinity for geometric sequences with -1<r<1

it's not really that advanced haha...



haha yeah true... but i looked through it in the text book and it seemed so much more complex than matrices so that put me off real quickly :P
Still deciding... which one is easier to make mistakes in??
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: TyErd on July 07, 2010, 12:27:41 am
sequences and series for sure. As I said in a previous post, questions can be ambiguous so if you interpret the question wrong you stuff it up. With matrices, questions become repetitive very quickly. Stick with matrices mate. You wont regret it.
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: stonecold on July 07, 2010, 12:45:38 am
nah, number patterns is piss easy as well.  especially once you apply my special formulae which the textbooks don't mention hehe.  they're really not that special or anything, it's just that the textbooks don't distinguish between them, and it is really important that you understand this concept.

http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,19085.msg192328.html#msg192328



Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: Blakhitman on July 07, 2010, 01:27:02 am
Sequences and series is easy as.

Then again, all of further is easy.
Title: Re: Sequences and series OR matrices?
Post by: kenhung123 on July 07, 2010, 10:55:57 am
Nah business is quite hard