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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => Monash University => Topic started by: 98.40_for_sure on August 19, 2010, 08:19:43 pm
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No... i'm not thinking about doing arts for the pretty ladies.
I wanna do philosophy? (maybe psychology too) but none of the other arts majors
Can you do philosophy subjects as electives in another double degree such as biomed/eng or sci/eng?
or does that mean i have to do eng/arts
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I highly doubt a full on double degree such as biomed/eng or sci/eng will have free electives, Eng/Arts would most likely be the only way to go.
Check out the course maps though but I very highly doubt you'll have frees
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Do you think it's worth it to give up biomed or sci (where my interests lie) for an arts degree? i dont have any use for arts besides that one subject i find interesting. but then again... a sci degree or biomed degree isn't very useful either as im most likely not gonna do post grad studies
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it's really up to you, sci/eng would probs complement well, if you plan on phd'ing eng then the maths stuff you do in sci will be useful. eg, im not pursuing sci any further than bachelors, only doing it because the maths complements well with commerce.
i dont think arts would complement eng that well, they're totally different.
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i think its not worth it to do just philosophy if your not going to do anything with it... if your interested then just read books
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i think its not worth it to do just philosophy if your not going to do anything with it... if your interested then just read books
I'd agree with this. A whole BA is overkill
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In terms of complementing, biomed doesn't synergise well with engineering either? so basically eng/sci is the most logical choice yaah?
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In terms of complementing, biomed doesn't synergise well with engineering either? so basically eng/sci is the most logical choice yaah?
Your second degree doesn't have to be complementary or logical though. Just do whatever you feel like because you have that Eng degree anyway XD
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If my main focus was eng, then would it make sense to go sci? would that help in having a higher GPA or something?
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well some parts will probably be similar but the other parts would be different.... like some of the chemistry and some of the astrophysics... but yea you don't need to do a double degree if you really like the engineering subjects etc then you can just do engineering.. theres a lot of undergrad companies that want eng students
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well some parts will probably be similar but the other parts would be different.... like some of the chemistry and some of the astrophysics... but yea you don't need to do a double degree if you really like the engineering subjects etc then you can just do engineering.. theres a lot of undergrad companies that want eng students
Would you recommend doing eng/sci initially, then maybe dropping the sci degree after 1st year? (if i feel it's not helping, or useless). thus graduating in 4 years rather than 5. work force earlier :D
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well in first year you don't really do much... kinda like yr 12 again... like chm... so you probably wont get much of a feel for science until ur 2nd or 3rd yr
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I'm not sure if i should do single degree eng for the common first year, or just go for chem eng straight off the bat. ahh pros and cons in all directions :(
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I'm not sure if i should do single degree eng for the common first year, or just go for chem eng straight off the bat. ahh pros and cons in all directions :(
I don't believe having an Eng/Sci will give you an edge in employment or engineering ability, it's more for personal interest. If your personal interest in exploring an area of Science isn't really that strong, single Eng gives you the rather significant advantage of having the common first year just in case you change your mind about your Eng stream.
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Do you think it would be easier to get a higher GPA in single eng degree? i think its >75% or something for the honours. do-able :D
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Do you think it would be easier to get a higher GPA in single eng degree? i think its >75% or something for the honours. do-able :D
I'm under the impression that Engineering subjects are harder than Science subjects but I dunno...depends a lot on the person, although obviously it's a bit too early to tell which one you'll do better at lol.
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its lots of work in either case since if your doing double your extending the number of years you will be there
maybe look back on this again
http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/courses/0032.html
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also why do you want to do chemical engineering?
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also why do you want to do chemical engineering?
Well reading thorugh all the different engineering specialisations, it's the only one that really shouts out "DO ME!"
Do you think it would be easier to get a higher GPA in single eng degree? i think its >75% or something for the honours. do-able :D
I'm under the impression that Engineering subjects are harder than Science subjects but I dunno...depends a lot on the person, although obviously it's a bit too early to tell which one you'll do better at lol.
Is your GPA like a combined thing? so if your doing a double degree, is your GPA the average of all your subjects in both? or do you have a GPA for eng and a GPA for sci
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Is your GPA like a combined thing? so if your doing a double degree, is your GPA the average of all your subjects in both? or do you have a GPA for eng and a GPA for sci
Yes it'll be combined, you won't have a separate GPA.
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and why do you want to do engineering?
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Is your GPA like a combined thing? so if your doing a double degree, is your GPA the average of all your subjects in both? or do you have a GPA for eng and a GPA for sci
Yes it'll be combined, you won't have a separate GPA.
Ahh... so then if engineering is harder than sci subjects, potentially, would doing single degree engineering be harder to maintain a high GPA? soz im an idiot :(
and why do you want to do engineering?
After looking at all sorts of courses and careers, it seems engineering most suits me. I ruled out med as it would take way too long and too hard to get into. Eng is only 4-5 years and straight into working, which sounds more appealing than studying for another 15 years, eating 2 minute noodles and working part time. I read some really inspirational thing about engineering on "changing the world" and making it a better place and stuff. I wanna do that! :D
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theres lots of jobs that can change the world... thats what they all say lol
is it straight into working? so you looked into the type of jobs post undergraduates take? and your happy with them? because it would suck to work in something that is boring or ur not interested in..
but if you've looked into it and you like the course structure and the units and the opportunities then your all set to do engineering
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Yeah chemical engineers have very broad choices on where to work, pharmaceutical companies, energy, food manufacturing etc sounds frickin fun! lol i'm so hyped now, designing new hot chocolates and lollipops :D :D :D
Also it's the employment rate and job security as well that provides comfort, everywhere i've read says they have 5 star future employment. And i'm not 100% sure on this, but my careers counsellor said that bachelor of engineering is as far as you HAVE to go. it's the same accreditation as having master of engineering @ uom. so there's really no point in going further unless it's for interest. employers aren't going to not choose you just because you have 1 degree? and the bach of eng @ monash has recognition world wide, so you can work in other countries as well
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cool well if you can picture yourself in that environment then your set although you are imagining the broader picture now which is always good to have but you might not be designing new hot chocolate lol
and if you like this stuff...mass transfer, heat transfer, separation processes, reaction engineering, chemical thermodynamics, process control, particle technology, process design, sustainability and safety, process simulation software and synthesis and design and one of these Biotechnology, Nanotechnology and materials, Sustainable processing
then you should be engineering unless you want that science degree as well
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Yeah all that stuff sounds pretty cool with me.
Im not so keen on chemistry major in science degree... but i just feel like maths major might help with engineering. and i kinda wanna get a taste of astrophysics (as a minor, cos i heard later years it gets insanely mathematical; different type of maths to eng though)
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hm i don't know but then what happens to all the chem eng students that just do one degree... im sure they will teach you what you need to know in terms of maths
but if you want to do more maths then you can extend the number of years you are at uni and do a double
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Oh there'll be more than enough maths in a Chemical Engineering degree =p It's just that the Engineering maths units are more accelerated and only take the parts that are relevant to eng, or so I hear.
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Don't do Arts, especially if you're going to choose the subject that's probably least likely to have any job prospects >.< (Unless you stay and do post grad and end up working in ~academia~ which every person I know majoring in philosophy has said they're going to do, haha.)
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Med is still better than engineering :P
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definitely still do a biomed/eng or sci/eng double degree! don't limit your options, as you want to do med so badly in a few years and realise you haven't done biomed/sci, plus you seem to not be certain with what you want, so another area of science is good for you! and for the mind to expand;)
although you may find great interests in arts, the main problem with this i've discovered, as i also want to do so many art subjects (i could do an entire degree focused in arts and still want to do more subjects in many areas), is that most are things that are done out of interest and not for career advancement you possibly explore more and get more out of self-study.
as less fun as that sounds it's true, for example, to self-study a language can be far more efficient then the same thing for 2-3 years at uni, or studying & reading philosophical concepts of choice instead of having to write huge essays are some you may not find too interesting and don't want to do.
but you obviously cannot learn everything this way, but it is true for most interest-based arts subjects.
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after doing a double degree at monash can you do postgrad med at melbourne after you complete the ugrad?
for eg.
biomed/law @ monash ------> MD at melbourne?
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after doing a double degree at monash can you do postgrad med at melbourne after you complete the ugrad?
for eg.
biomed/law @ monash ------> MD at melbourne?
yes of course.
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after doing a double degree at monash can you do postgrad med at melbourne after you complete the ugrad?
for eg.
biomed/law @ monash ------> MD at melbourne?
I'm pretty sure you can.
That's what I'm planning too, Masters @ uom
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after doing a double degree at monash can you do postgrad med at melbourne after you complete the ugrad?
for eg.
biomed/law @ monash ------> MD at melbourne?
I think Melbourne takes GPA into account for grad med rather than using a cutoff, so doing law might impede your chances. That being said, the English component of law should help with sec2 of the GAMSAT.
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I think Melbourne takes GPA into account for grad med rather than using a cutoff, so doing law might impede your chances. That being said, the English component of law should help with sec2 of the GAMSAT.
33% of the evaluation, ranked against everyone else, but UoM has prereq subjects unlike other PG med courses.
If you want to do arts, consider sitting in on some of the lectures before you make that decision?
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If you're interested in engineering, biomed has a biomedical engineering major I believe. You could also do some philosophy subjects as part of your breadth requirements in either biomed or science.
Doing it through biomed would also still give you the prereqs for med at Melbourne, should you change your mind or something.
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but if you did biomed/law at monash but didnt get into med at melbourne, wouldnt it be good that at least got a law degree and therefore be able to work at lawfirms?
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Does anyone here actually do biomedical engineering? the chick at monash open day that was representing it was extremely boring...
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^ someone on irc chat does. cant remember who though...
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Ahh i just haven't spoken to anyone whos doing that particular double degree so i can get an idea of the difficulty and workload, contact hours etc
Although the two degrees don't really complement each other, it would be nice to have something different to do, rather than just maths maths maths all day
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maths maths all day would be fun 8)
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Hahah but it would be insane super hard uni maths... ie eng/sci with maths major would be killer
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ya i guess so. that is why im doing biomed :)
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I wonder why girls aren't attracted to engineering... nothing wrong with it
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i am :)
sort of...
its my back up plan if i never get into MD.
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^ someone on irc chat does. cant remember who though...
no they don't
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LOL, are you sureeeeeeeeeee.
i thought there was.