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Title: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: bar0029 on September 26, 2010, 09:52:49 am
hey, i was wandering if someone could help me...
I've done all these practice exams but the majority of them including itute and parts of kilbaha are nothing like the vcaa ones, am i the only one that sees this pattern? also is maths association victoria one the most alike or no?
can someone help me identify which 'brands' are the most alike to vcaa?

:)
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: letsride on September 26, 2010, 10:12:03 am
I'd say insight would be the closest to vcaa, followed by neap/tsfx/tssm etc,
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: itolduso on September 26, 2010, 10:28:48 am
Most of vcaa's are used by textbook writers as examples or exercises in textbooks. They are more familiar to readers. Many trial exams try to be original and less familiar to most.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: happyhappyland on September 26, 2010, 11:29:44 am
Most of vcaa's are used by textbook writers as examples or exercises in textbooks. They are more familiar to readers. Many trial exams try to be original and less familiar to most.

wtf are u on about all the trial papers pretty much copy the previous year's vcaa paper but with different numbers and problems.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: 8039 on September 26, 2010, 11:45:40 am
Most of vcaa's are used by textbook writers as examples or exercises in textbooks. They are more familiar to readers. Many trial exams try to be original and less familiar to most.

wtf are u on about all the trial papers pretty much copy the previous year's vcaa paper but with different numbers and problems.


Some do. Have you tried kilbaha? I've never seen some of the questions they ask resemble anything to VCAA.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: bar0029 on September 26, 2010, 11:48:54 am
if anything tsfx i think is the least similar, none of their questions are like vcaa, because im getting better scores in vcaa than in tsfx.. and it's annoying me lol  
Most of vcaa's are used by textbook writers as examples or exercises in textbooks. They are more familiar to readers. Many trial exams try to be original and less familiar to most.
my teacher told me this too, that MOST of them not all try to be original .. which is stupid, whats the point of that?
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: bar0029 on September 26, 2010, 11:49:16 am
kilbaha is ridiculous!
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: itolduso on September 26, 2010, 01:32:28 pm
Most of vcaa's are used by textbook writers as examples or exercises in textbooks. They are more familiar to readers. Many trial exams try to be original and less familiar to most.

wtf are u on about all the trial papers pretty much copy the previous year's vcaa paper but with different numbers and problems.

demonstrate your point
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: Duck on September 26, 2010, 01:44:17 pm
Kilbaha exams still serve a purpose however, because you know that vcaa will try to put an extra hard q to separate the a+'s and also if you can do the hard questions then you can probably do the easier ones. I'm yet to find a totally irrelevant question, most of the hard questions are just different ways of looking at the core concepts of the study design.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: happyhappyland on September 26, 2010, 02:24:38 pm
Most of vcaa's are used by textbook writers as examples or exercises in textbooks. They are more familiar to readers. Many trial exams try to be original and less familiar to most.

For exam 1 the first question is usually f(g(x) this is built upon VCAA doing it first. Also the sketching of circular functions usually the third question in trail papers BECAUSE VCAA DID it. Most questions are very similiar even in exam 2, the multiple choice questions by the time you get to question 17ish you get a question where they give you a graph and a whole lot of graphs as the multiple choice answers (usually to find the differiate graph or the addition of the two graphs).

textsbooks on the otherhand focus more on topic by topic, instead of integrating many topics together to form one question.

wtf are u on about all the trial papers pretty much copy the previous year's vcaa paper but with different numbers and problems.

demonstrate your point
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: itolduso on September 26, 2010, 02:52:03 pm
you said ALL trial papers pretty much copy the previous year's vcaa paper but with different numbers and problems. can you name say 3 trials doing that.

what you have demonstrated was the format, topics and the weighting of topics, which of course must be the same as vcaa's. Many questions in the trials were different.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: ben92 on September 26, 2010, 03:55:58 pm
Some brands a more difficult than others. I've heard for methods Kilbala is apparently much harder than the others.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: happyhappyland on September 26, 2010, 04:22:13 pm
you said ALL trial papers pretty much copy the previous year's vcaa paper but with different numbers and problems. can you name say 3 trials doing that.

what you have demonstrated was the format, topics and the weighting of topics, which of course must be the same as vcaa's. Many questions in the trials were different.

"about all" i said.. anyway does it matter because my point was that trail papers are closer to vcaa than txtbooks are
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: kyzoo on September 26, 2010, 04:53:22 pm
hey, i was wandering if someone could help me...
I've done all these practice exams but the majority of them including itute and parts of kilbaha are nothing like the vcaa ones, am i the only one that sees this pattern? also is maths association victoria one the most alike or no?
can someone help me identify which 'brands' are the most alike to vcaa?

:)

Who cares about similarity to VCAA papers. Just do the hardest papers since if you can do them, then you can easily do VCAA. Losing 10-15 marks in iTute = Losing 1-3 in VCAA.
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: bomb on September 27, 2010, 09:15:01 am
How much harder is heffernan would you say? I'm struggling with 08 :\
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: bar0029 on September 27, 2010, 02:13:30 pm
i actually liked heffernan well the 2010 one cause i did pretty well.. i know however that some of ther exam 2 are seriously hard :\ kilbaha and itute will be the death of me!
Title: Re: vcaa vs trial exams
Post by: Duck on September 27, 2010, 02:46:58 pm
I actually quite liked itute 2010 exam 1. However, I 'get' algebra and the majority of it was just difficult algebraic manipulation. Seriously, I wish there was just one exam and it was nothing more than page after page of huge equations and 'solve for x.'