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VCE Stuff => VCE Mathematics => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: Bing 101 on December 02, 2010, 08:04:43 pm
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Okay, I'm not going to lie, methods is my worst subject :-\
I'm aiming to do a BA at Melbourne Uni or Monash (arts/law)
Next year my subjects include English, History Revs, Literature, Biology and as it stands Methods. I've completed 3/4 Psych this year.
Is Methods worth doing for me? Given how hard I'll have to work to pull off a good (not great) mark with it, even as my 6th subject.
It is not a subject I have to do to get into the course I want, yet I'm told over and over by my teachers I'd be silly not to do it in year 12 even though the marks are far from great.
I'm just after a little perspective from you guys.
Thanks in advance :)
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It really depends on whether or not you have anything better you'd be wanting to switch to. If maths in general isn't required for what you want to do in the future, and you feel that wouldn't gain anything from doing it next year, then maybe reconsider.
Having said that, if you're willing to work for it, the sense of accomplishment at the end can more than justify doing it (especially if you don't completely despise doing it...). It's really up to you, don't feel obligated to do everything the teachers tell you.
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I don't worry about what teachers think about my subject choices, unless they agree with me. :P
Really, maths isn't for everyone. If you're going to have to spend heaps of time on it to get decent marks, you're better off not doing it, mainly because of how much it will detract from studying for other subjects. Drop it for Further -- if you don't have anything you'd rather do, that is. It's easier to get a good mark there, and will allow more study time overall.
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If I were you go do Further Maths, its easy to score high if you put in the effort.
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If I were you go do Further Maths, its easy to score high if you put in the effort.
Hmmmm... If you lose 6 marks in the exams, you lose a 40...
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If I were you go do Further Maths, its easy to score high if you put in the effort.
Hmmmm... If you lose 6 marks in the exams, you lose a 40...
If he/she studies hard theres nothing to worry about. Im going to study alot next year and hoping for the 50 myself :)
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I would say if you're really, really struggling with maths now and that is due to it fundamentally not being your sort of subject (that is, you've worked hard to improve, but you really just don't get it), then you're going to struggle with methods. Yr 12 moves pretty fast, and you'll have heaps of other subjects to concentrate on, many of which require quite a bit of reading and essay writing. To improve markedly in maths, you need to have lots of practice, but for that you need time. 3/4 Methods also builds remarkably on what you do in 1/2.
If, however, you are doing all right in methods, but not that great, and you haven't really worked very hard to improve, you really do have that opportunity (if you maybe put in a bit of work over the holidays). Whether it is worthwhile depends on your perspective - if you mean for your aggregate and ATAR, quite possibly not since it is so easy to drop down in methods and if it doesn't come all that naturally you may need to put in a lot of time to doing well in it. But in terms of general learning, I have a friend who didn't do methods and regretted it later, doing an arts degree to Melb - took up maths as a subject in uni. Take what you want from that! I spose my point is that methods is a pretty useful subject to have up your sleeve, if only for a more complete maths knowledge.
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I would say if you're really, really struggling with maths now and that is due to it fundamentally not being your sort of subject (that is, you've worked hard to improve, but you really just don't get it), then you're going to struggle with methods. Yr 12 moves pretty fast, and you'll have heaps of other subjects to concentrate on, many of which require quite a bit of reading and essay writing. To improve markedly in maths, you need to have lots of practice, but for that you need time. 3/4 Methods also builds remarkably on what you do in 1/2.
If, however, you are doing all right in methods, but not that great, and you haven't really worked very hard to improve, you really do have that opportunity (if you maybe put in a bit of work over the holidays). Whether it is worthwhile depends on your perspective - if you mean for your aggregate and ATAR, quite possibly not since it is so easy to drop down in methods and if it doesn't come all that naturally you may need to put in a lot of time to doing well in it. But in terms of general learning, I have a friend who didn't do methods and regretted it later, doing an arts degree to Melb - took up maths as a subject in uni. Take what you want from that! I spose my point is that methods is a pretty useful subject to have up your sleeve, if only for a more complete maths knowledge.
+1
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If I were you go do Further Maths, its easy to score high if you put in the effort.
Hmmmm... If you lose 6 marks in the exams, you lose a 40...
That is so wrong. Even using the 1mark = 1study score theory, you would still get 44 (Take or add) and that's 40+, so no.
I remember someone on this thread lost 3 marks for a 49... so not true, 40+ is definitely guaranteed if you lose only 6 marks..
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lol rohit was merely exaggerating
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despite my instinct to tell everyone to do as much maths as they can, i think maybe it might not such a great idea for you to do methods.
Really the single advantage to doing methods would be for the pre-req on the off chance that you decided you wanna do commerce or something.
On the negative side, methods is not exactly a walk in the park, and if you are already struggling it may be worth to drop it (defs do six subjects tho) and picking up further or if you really hate maths then another humanities subject, but i think that you already have a humanities heavy subject load, so a maths might be good as a circuit breaker :)
having said that, methods is awesome fun, and if you can cope i highly recommend you keeping it :)