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VCE Stuff => VCE Science => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Chemistry => Topic started by: andy456 on December 14, 2010, 10:52:48 pm
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what score do you think you would need to get??
I really want to tutor in chemistry next year but I only got a 37.
I know the subject but got stuffed around by stupid errors (such as trusting vcaa to put half equations in the appropriate order, stupid MC q)
Would anyone want a tutor who got a 37???
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It's going to depend on the student whether they will be wise enough to see that SS don't define a person but just gives a good indication of where they stand.
IMHO, if you teach the concepts clearly..that really should matter, as your student would only need to learn.
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No offense but my first off answer is no if you're going to advertise like that. XD
However, I know of people who got like high 40s who can't tutor for crap (ie. poor communication skills, amongst other things).
What I'm saying is, Study score shouldn't determine the tutor's ability to tutor.
And besides, if you do a major in chemistry at tertiary level, knowledge is there already. Just ensure you keep up to date with VCAA study designs.
What souljette said. =]
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what score do you think you would need to get??
I really want to tutor in chemistry next year but I only got a 37.
I know the subject but got stuffed around by stupid errors (such as trusting vcaa to put half equations in the appropriate order, stupid MC q)
Would anyone want a tutor who got a 37???
Are you think of studying Chemistry in the future in Uni?
Initially some people may be reluctant, but if you establish yourself well in your University course, and show you're passionate, it should be fine in my opinion.
One of my family friends got 35 in chemistry in 2006, and is (or just completed) a Bachelor of Science majoring in something to do with Chem. He has had several students get above 40 :)
That said 37 in chem is a good score given you got As and A+s anyway. Additionally your overall strong ATAR will be a factor which may attract students :)
Furthermore your slip ups/errors position you better to be perceptive of common mistakes, which may add to your ability to tutor :P
People on THIS forum are particularly judgmental to do with scores, but in the real world, there are people who aspire for scores such as yours in chem :)
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well the plan is
arts/law or science/law.... if i get sci/law i would major in chem i think because i enjoy it.....
guess ill have to build up my rep in the community then....
thanks everyone for your honest opinions
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You could always tutor legal :P
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also with law.
you develope good communication skills - well it should anyway.
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You could always tutor legal :P
yeah definately thought about that
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To be honest, (I'm speaking from the perspective of my former naiive and ignorant self when I was in my tutor finding frenzy at the start of the year)
However crude it sounds, back then I wouldn't take a tutor who got 37, even a 47 would have been too low for me, especially in amongst the host of 50's in the VN tutor section was offering.
Put yourself in the situation of a VCE'er hoping to do well, you'd want the best of the best, you'd think a tutor with a 35 under his belt could only take you as far as a 35
You may be the greatest tutor in the world but in the end, all your perceived skills are based off that double digit number.
To entice customers you should explain your situation clearly and maybe offer a first session free so that they can experience first hand just how good you really are ;]
And yeah, I've had 35's that could communicate ten times better than a 50'er
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To be honest, (I'm speaking from the perspective of my former naiive and ignorant self when I was in my tutor finding frenzy at the start of the year)
However crude it sounds, back then I wouldn't take a tutor who got 37, even a 47 would have been too low for me, especially in amongst the host of 50's in the VN tutor section was offering.
Put yourself in the situation of a VCE'er hoping to do well, you'd want the best of the best, you'd think a tutor with a 35 under his belt could only take you as far as a 35
You may be the greatest tutor in the world but in the end, all your perceived skills are based off that double digit number.
To entice customers you should explain your situation clearly and maybe offer a first session free so that they can experience first hand just how good you really are ;]
Thanks. I have considered all of this and thought of possibly offering volunteer tutoring to my school next year in order to gain rep
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do science law!! awesome course :) as for tutoring, you may struggle to find students, but hey, it's in the advertising...
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It's not always the score that counts.
I had a Methods tutor for one semester this year.. she got a 49 in Methods and scored a 99.90. BUT she couldn't tutor for crap. It was a group class, but you could just tell she couldn't care less about her students. She had poor communication skills too.. along with a severe lack of passion.
Let me put this into perspective:
On the other hand, this Chemistry tutor I had was legendary. Absolutely legendary. He scored a UAI score of around 85 - 90 in his HSC and he was really, really passionate about the subject. This 'low' UAI score really didn't count... he had a wealth of tertiary experience.. A BSc and PhD at Melb Uni, Olympiad student, and also studied at University of NSW, University of Auckland, Monash Uni, and the list goes on.. He really knows his stuff - regardless of his final score.
You can do the same! ;) By the way guys, if you want a link to this tutor, you can PM me.
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she got a 49 in Methods and scored a 99.90.
lol poor girl
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Study Score definitely isn't everything but people would be more inclined to pay for a tutor (straight off, at least) who got a slightly higher score...but I think if you did a Uni course with it, perhaps showed off some of your knowledge in the right place (either by providing tuition at your school, showing people how accurately and well you can explain concepts on this forum or to friends/other vce students for free), then you will gain a rep as someone who really knows what they're doing.
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This is purely for the purposes of the thread, I don't know you personally, but looking at the last poster it'd be hard to go past someone like him compared with your scores.
hopefully you could prove me wrong, I'm merely commenting my opinion to your question.
Mind you, the Dux of our school a few years back averaged around 40 for his subjects (Eng, Chem, Methods), and yet tutors ~30 kids from our school, so there is hope for you!
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In my opinion, people who are genuinely looking for tutors to improve their understanding of the subject would look around for the feedback on tutors everywhere to see if they are worth the money. I mean, more or less than $30 an hour (which I think is around the average price these days?) isn't cheap in the long run. Not at all.
Sure, people would be like "He's got a 50 in ___ ? Sign me up right away!" but if they have negative feedback then they would be deterred. If I ever wanted a tutor for a subject, I would check out what feedback they had, the study score they achieved and then ask them, if their study score wasn't exactly what I was looking for, what reason contributed to a study score lower than what I wanted from a tutor. If they are honest and the reason is adequate, I'd try having them as tutors for a few hours and decide from there.
But I've never tutored/had a tutor before so I'm not sure if that's how it works or if people can do that? :p