ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: andrewloppol on January 26, 2011, 01:06:14 pm
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Why are you doing 2? You can get away with doing Calc2, although they might pressure you to do linear algebra
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Cos you got 35 raw you can take a test to do acc 1&2 it's helD on he Friday of o-week, if you don't take test or don't pass you have to do the lower Maths pathway, it's the exact situation a lot of actuarial students are in
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Do calc 2 and lin alg; those two will cover you for pretty much all maths you'll need. Accelerated maths is pretty much exactly the same, though they throw in a bit of real analysis too (you'll never need that, though).
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Ummm not to sure how to register tbh, mabys check the Maths and stats dpt website, i'll ask my friend for the link to he registration PDF once he comes online
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On your transcript do they write accelerated mathematics or "calc 2+linear algebra+real analysis"
i got 38 in spesh and im not sure whether i should do accelerated mathematics (planning on going into chem/mechanical engineering)
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Real analysis won't help you at all. Calc 2 teaches you all the calculus you'll need for engineering and lin alg teaches you all the simultaneous equation type stuff you'll need for engineering.
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Linear Algebra... I quiver, hyperventilate and then get heart palpitations when I hear that word. Starts of well, then it hits you and a few weeks later, you die.
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Are you taking the Bioengineering pathway?
Because the normal pathway only requires one maths subject.
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Linear Algebra... I quiver, hyperventilate and then get heart palpitations when I hear that word. Starts of well, then it hits you and a few weeks later, you die.
Good deal easier than any of the other maths I've done at uni. *Dies*
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Not sure if you've sorted this out yet, but last year, this was the situation with Maths for someone in your position:
1. If you want to take the standard route, you do Experimental Design and Data Analysis in Semester 1 and Calculus 2 in Semester 2. A lot of people dislike EDDA, but I think that you do recognise its value since it teaches you a lot of statistics used in medical studies/other scientific papers.
2. If you want to "keep your options open", as far as the bioengineering pathway goes, you do Calculus 2 and Linear Algebra - this is a bit more intense "maths" (though I found Calc 2 pretty straight forward, apparently Linear Algebra matrices are manageable but annoying). You don't do statistics.
3. If you want to "keep your options more open" (in the sense that you could arguably do the Diploma or Informatics as well as bioeng pathway) or you REALLY love maths, you could try and do the accelerated pathway - but the problem with this last year was that its lectures are very intensive (Accel 1 and Accel 2 are effectively three subjects worth of credit). The lecture times clashed with a lot of biomed times so you would have to miss one lecture or the other - maths lectures in general are not recorded on lectopia for play back. I would probably recommend against this choice unless you're really very good at maths - it is a great deal harder than either of the other two options above when you factor in the clashes as well as actual content.
That said, I went for Option 1 - maybe people who have done 2 or 3 could chip in their views!
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Accel 1 and Accel 2 are effectively three subjects worth of credit
out of intrest, what three subjects does acc 1&2 combine? cacl 2, linear algerba and real analysis?
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^Yep, according to the handbook anyway.
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Accel 1 and Accel 2 are effectively three subjects worth of credit
out of intrest, what three subjects does acc 1&2 combine? cacl 2, linear algerba and real analysis?
Pretty much those three are covered in the two accelerated maths. It's a good thing because it's 3 for the price of 2, so you save ~$500.
EDIT: Beaten by fady_22
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also, why does the maths subjects clash with biomed subjects in particular? Wouldn't subjects from all faculties clash to some degree? Are there more clashes with biomed and maths than say with commerce and maths?
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I'm not sure if it is exclusively biomedicine, but the reason I would supsect it wreaks more havoc on someone in a biomed degree than commerce would be a) Commerce has fewer hours in general for which there could be a potential crash, b) There are more commerce students, and subsequently, many lectures have more than one stream - if one clashes with accelerated maths (for which there is only one stream of lectures), there is usually a repeat in the afternoon. This latter reason applies equally to science students, who have about as many contact hours as Biomed, but with more streams as their subjects are generally huge. Biomed only has one stream of lectures for the majority of its core subjects (eg. Biology, Chemistry, Stats) - these are in the morning, which is when accelerated maths is on.
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It's more because subjects are allocated to blocks and the biomed students had the bad luck to have their core subjects blocked with accelerated maths.
Check the uni breadth subjects, most of them have the exact same sets of lecture/tute times
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ah ok, that makes sense :)
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It's more because subjects are allocated to blocks and the biomed students had the bad luck to have their core subjects blocked with accelerated maths.
Check the uni breadth subjects, most of them have the exact same sets of lecture/tute times
can we check the timetable already?
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Go to your subject in the handbook and click view timetable.
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wait, is accelerated maths part of biomed core?
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Read my post about the three options - it is not unless you really, really want it to be.
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Go to your subject in the handbook and click view timetable.
do lectures go for the full hour? (or are we allowed to schedule a 9AM-10AM and a 10AM-11AM side by side? )
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Go to your subject in the handbook and click view timetable.
do lectures go for the full hour? (or are we allowed to schedule a 9AM-10AM and a 10AM-11AM side by side? )
Side to side lectures/tutes are fine. According to this link, if the timetable says a lecture runs from 9am - 10am for example, the actual lecture goes from 9:05 to 9:55, which means you should have 10 minutes between side by side lectures.
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Yes, that's right. Lectures start 5 minutes past the hour and end 5 minutes before the hour, so you have 10 minutes to get between classes. Also, afternoon classes start at quarter past (e.g. 1:15 - 2:15, though the 5 minutes at the start and end thing still applies).
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Sorry, to resurrect but if you are considering going for the postgrad MD, (majoring in something like Human structure and functioiN) would it be more advisable to do calc 2+lin alg rather than acc maths1+2?
acc maths is much harder and may impact negatively on your GPA?
Calc2+linalg are much more application oriented subjects (more suited to non-maths majors) ..?
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You only need to do one semester of maths, and the first year is weighted as one sixth of your overall gpa (correct me if I'm wrong here), so you're best off just doing the one that you want to do the most.
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Yes, which means one subject in first year is one forty-eighth of your 3year GPA