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Title: physics = Further maths
Post by: Halil on March 03, 2011, 09:38:43 pm
Today in my first sac of year 12 physics, I discovered that PHYSICS, is just another stupid further maths.
I lost so much marks because the question was tricky. Lack of concentration ruined everything.

How many sacs do we have for physics in a year?
I stuffed up in further maths at the start of the year but I fixed up later and got 43, a decent mark.
Dont know if it is going to happen with this subject.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: pi on March 03, 2011, 09:42:28 pm
Are you just ranting against physics, or asking for some info?

In answer to your query about number of SACs, we have 6. 3 per semester and an exam per semester. I assume most schools would be the same...
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: onur369 on March 03, 2011, 09:44:53 pm
The sac was confusing, I gotta agree.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Halil on March 03, 2011, 09:45:18 pm
This thread is not one to just ask questions. Im guessing we are allowed to discuss the subject. SO that is what I am doing.

Do all schools have 6 sacs a year
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: pi on March 03, 2011, 09:49:26 pm
This thread is not one to just ask questions. Im guessing we are allowed to discuss the subject. SO that is what I am doing.
Fair enough then, I just wasn't sure whether it was a question too...

Although I don't think physics is a 'further maths'. They are both conceptually different and the general consensus is that physics is harder.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: xZero on March 03, 2011, 10:09:52 pm
Further is heaps easier than physics, and get use to the tricky questions since all maths subjects will have some sort of tricky questions on the exam
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Killerkob on March 03, 2011, 10:44:32 pm
I don't appreciate the denigration of physics as though it were further maths. There's a reason further isn't considered as a pre-req for essentially any degree.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: tarek on March 03, 2011, 10:53:54 pm
He doesn't mean that physics is exactly like further, rather it has a few similarities in terms of detail. In further it is very easy to lose marks for silly mistakes just like physics. He obviously knows that physics is different to further... true Halil! In conclusion physics is gay! ;)
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Fyrefly on March 04, 2011, 12:08:16 am

Mod Edit: Deleted useless posts in this thread.

Please keep on-topic.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Halil on March 05, 2011, 01:43:12 pm
That is exactly what i meant Tarek! :)

Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: bomb on March 05, 2011, 02:45:38 pm
Physics is not "gay". It's actually a pretty eays subject, that's why you can't hand out easy SACs and let everyone get 100% and risk your best student lose a mark by accident and get a terrible rank.

Tricky questions act as great seperators and help the better students rank highly. For that reason, you need to do a lot of practice questions and make sure you do different types of questions so you are prepared for that odd question.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Halil on March 05, 2011, 04:34:04 pm
Bomb I understand what you mean, but you see, we did not do any tests before the sac. So we did not know how tricky things can get. After all, you can know what something is until you try it. Now we know it.

Oh well, I thought I would get a low mark for it but pulled a 87%, rank 3. Not bad I guess.

Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: bomb on March 06, 2011, 11:43:20 am
Hm, did you do all textbook/checkpoints questions for the relevant topics?

Often, teachers just manipulate questions from there.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: schnappy on March 07, 2011, 05:01:02 pm
I'd be willing to agree to some extent. For the better students (I'm really speaking about anyone on this forum) who's able to do well, it really comes down to not making mistakes rather than knowing how to do questions - so it's a lot like further in that regard. One mistake can really bomb you out...
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: /0 on March 07, 2011, 05:07:21 pm
They oughta make the physics course like 1st year uni, that should cheer you up.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Water on March 07, 2011, 05:22:13 pm
Bomb I understand what you mean, but you see, we did not do any tests before the sac. So we did not know how tricky things can get. After all, you can know what something is until you try it. Now we know it.

Oh well, I thought I would get a low mark for it but pulled a 87%, rank 3. Not bad I guess.




.If it was so easy like Further Maths, you should of got 100%. 87% is nothing to be proud of. Lol
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Halil on March 07, 2011, 07:43:12 pm
 If there was a sac, and the mean score was 95 and I scored a 100, why would i be proud of it? Everyone scored high therefore it was a very easy sac.

If you score a 50 in a sac where the mean score was lets say 25, then you can be proud.
Level of difficulty is always different. Also to remind you buddy, your ranking goes to vcaa, not your score.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: iNerd on March 07, 2011, 07:47:45 pm
Why do people like you have to always disagree on things. If there was a sac, and the mean score was 95 and I scored a 100, why would i be proud of it? Everyone scored high therefore it was a very easy sac.

If you score a 50 in a sac where the mean score was lets say 25, then you can be proud.
Level of difficulty is always different. Also to remind you buddy, your ranking goes to vcaa, not your score.

Incorrect. Getting a 100 is something to be proud of especially since its 5% over the average mark.
Didn't you follow 'stonecold'? He missed out on 99.95 by 0.04 - 5% is significant.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Halil on March 07, 2011, 07:49:26 pm
Lol, your rank will affect your enter score, not your mark.
If you get 95 and 100 and in both your ranked one, nothing changes.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: iNerd on March 07, 2011, 07:50:12 pm
Lol, your rank will affect your enter score, not your mark.
If you get 95 and 100 and in both your ranked one, nothing changes.
Never disagreed with that lol? Quote me? I just said 5% is significant in terms of level of understanding and that you should be proud.

Ah, my stonecold example was more for the exam where raw marks matter!

^ Having said that, SACs are meant to prepare you for the exam so you should be aiming high raw too.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: nacho on March 07, 2011, 07:54:56 pm
Bomb I understand what you mean, but you see, we did not do any tests before the sac. So we did not know how tricky things can get. After all, you can know what something is until you try it. Now we know it.

Oh well, I thought I would get a low mark for it but pulled a 87%, rank 3. Not bad I guess.




.If it was so easy like Further Maths, you should of got 100%. 87% is nothing to be proud of. Lol
Lol you missed the part where he said he was from Isik College
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: onur369 on March 07, 2011, 07:56:54 pm
Bomb I understand what you mean, but you see, we did not do any tests before the sac. So we did not know how tricky things can get. After all, you can know what something is until you try it. Now we know it.

Oh well, I thought I would get a low mark for it but pulled a 87%, rank 3. Not bad I guess.




.If it was so easy like Further Maths, you should of got 100%. 87% is nothing to be proud of. Lol
Lol you missed the part where he said he was from Isik College

Oi, never diss Isik College!
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: schnappy on March 07, 2011, 08:21:43 pm
Yes, it would. Then I could do VCE Physics again and get credit for it! Yay!
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: tarek on March 07, 2011, 08:24:11 pm
Nacho what do you call cheese that isn't yours?

Nacho cheese! But seriously water 87% is good especially if it was hard and it is something to be proud of.
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Romperait on March 07, 2011, 08:34:34 pm
It's vce physics. Who cares?
Title: Re: physics = Further maths
Post by: Fyrefly on March 07, 2011, 11:31:23 pm

Yeah... I'm locking this topic...