Melbourne Model Med

[Russ]

Wowww. Wait a second. Are you saying that the melb Uni will not do the guranteed pathway for ppl finsihing yr 12 in 2010. Is there any confirmation on this? Why are they doing this?

First I've heard of it and the MDHS website has no mention of it ending this year, call the MDHS student centre and ask (8344 5890).

[monokekie]

first of all, sorry about hijacking this thread..

Just wondering, if one did vce in 2009 and decide to take a leave of absence for one year.. reckon the guaranteed pathway will still be available?

considering that the pathway will nolonger be available to students who complete their year 12 in 2010..

Wowww. Wait a second. Are you saying that the melb Uni will not do the guranteed pathway for ppl finsihing yr 12 in 2010. Is there any confirmation on this? Why are they doing this?

Below is my understanding of their pathway so far:

Students who achieved an enter score of 99.00-99.85 will only be guaranteed a full-fee place for med provided they did VCE in 2007, 2008 and 2009, but if you achieve 99.90-99.95, the CSP guaranteed place will be available until 2012.

You could call MDHS but they can't provide you more info than what they can find on their website.

[vexx]

^ No the last year for full-fee guarantee is 2010, and it is not completely guaranteed because of 'subject to number of places available'. I have sent them and email about this, and so if you are acheiving a 99+ and graduate this year or earlier, and then make the prereqs (satisfactory interview, 75% average, etc) then you are in priority of other full-fee students, and since there are only 30 places then not everyone will get in, so technically is not a real guarantee it's a booster to your chances..

[Russ]

That only really matters if there are more than 30 students above 99 in your cohort though.

[vexx]

That only really matters if there are more than 30 students above 99 in your cohort though.

not exactly, there is many others who are applying for full-fee as either unimelb students or other unis in australia. apparently they aren't allowed to give all places to just guaranteed students.
it's lame, and it is why they are getting rid of the guarantee placing as they can't actually guarantee you..

[Russ]

Oh right, I thought it was just for students from the UoM. If it's from all over australia then yeah, that sucks.

But hey, at least it's still CSP > full fee

[vexx]

Oh right, I thought it was just for students from the UoM. If it's from all over australia then yeah, that sucks.

But hey, at least it's still CSP > full fee

yeah the 30 spots are australia wide but the full-fee is exclusive to those who meet requirements at UoM.

[monokekie]

But there are pre-req subjects.. its complicated as you will then have to somehow prove that the subject you have done in other uni is equivalent to the ones offered by unimelb

[Russ]

But there are pre-req subjects.. its complicated as you will then have to somehow prove that the subject you have done in other uni is equivalent to the ones offered by unimelb

Most students who intend to apply for postgrad med meet those prerequisites. Most of those who don't are from non-science backgrounds anyway (such as Arts)

[monokekie]

awww~ that's not good for the biomeddies then~

and by the way.. i found these type of disclamers on most melbourne's catalogues:
"DISCLAIMER
The University gives no warranty and accepts no responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of information and the University reserves the right to make changes without
notice at any time in its absolute discretion."

Now I kinda believe what Shinny says ....

[vexx]

But there are pre-req subjects.. its complicated as you will then have to somehow prove that the subject you have done in other uni is equivalent to the ones offered by unimelb

they have a list on their website of the accepted subjects.

[Russ]

awww~ that's not good for the biomeddies then~

and by the way.. i found these type of disclamers on most melbourne's catalogues:

Regrettably, it's easier to get into the Doctor of Medicine from the BSc than the BBiomed at Melbourne (based on the three formal criteria).

But that sort of disclaimer is pretty standard though, they don't want a mistake or oversight to cost them.

[stonecold]

Sorry to intrude, but what is the difference between doing a science degree or biomed degree before applying for MD at UoM?
Does it make a difference, and what is the main difference between the two degrees?

Just trying to work out what to do if I don't get into MBBS...

[Russ]

Sorry to intrude, but what is the difference between doing a science degree or biomed degree before applying for MD at UoM?
Does it make a difference, and what is the main difference between the two degrees?

Just trying to work out what to do if I don't get into MBBS...

The difference between the degrees is that the BSc is a regular science degree...can major in any of the fields. To qualify for the MD you need to do certain subjects, but it's not particularly restrictive. The BBiomed is very restrictive since they have a lot of compulsory subjects and all you do is choose your major. The upside is that it gives a very integrated approach to learning about the health sciences and is (according to the uni) a good pathway to Med.

In the BSc though you can get higher marks since you can choose easier subjects (no compulsory subjects in science), which raises your GPA.

Overall there's not a lot of difference in terms of applying to the MD (some people say that they will look to the Biomedicine cohort to justify their new generation degree, but that's certainly not the formal position). The fact that the TER score required for Biomed is so high means that you might as well just do science if you don't get in, it won't be a big deal (be prepared for a ridiculous amount of elitism though lol)

[vexx]

^ yeah there is no difference in doing biomed or science, just need to have the prereqs.