Who believes in evolution?

[minilunchbox]

But being a Christian I'm gonna say no we didn't evolve from apes, for on the sixth day god created man.

I agree (with the first part) because we didn't evolve from apes. We share similarities because we diverged from a common ancestor. Evolution isn't just a one step process that happens overnight. It's many small changes happening over a ridiculously long period of time. And fossils are used as evidence for evolution.

[m@tty]

I think I played that once. Is it Pokemon??

[QuantumJG]

Dude how do you people think pikachu transforms to raichu?

CLEARLY IT OBEYS THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION. (unless it carries an everstone)

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Glockmeister]

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Ok, but is there any evidence/testing of evolution? You didn't show any.
And I did say it was a good theory.

@Glockmeister
I didn't doubt the evolution that we can witness i.e. all your examples. Only the extension of these to our origins.

Why? Is there a rational reason to belief that these origin of viruses are inherently different our own origins?

Also, don't confuse evolution with abiogenesis.

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Ok, but is there any evidence/testing of evolution? You didn't show any.
And I did say it was a good theory.

I'm not well-versed in biology so if I gave evidence I might get the details wrong, but there are lots of videos on youtube by AaronRa, cdk007, thunderf00t etc. which provide a lot of evidence for evolution e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ Evidence for Evolution

Lots of transitional fossils have been found which describe the evolution of certain species
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/completeness.html

But here's an example:
All great apes have 24 pairs chromosomes, but humans only have 23. However, according to evolution, humans are apes. What they found was that the human chromosome 2 was actually fused together from two separate chromosomes.

By the way if you think evolution is a good theory then you recognise that it is a theory, so by your own definition you accept evolution.

[kamil9876]

I come from a religious family and even they believe (I mean, acknowledge) evolution probably. In fact when I first heard about the antagonistic views towards it by Christians I was a bit surprised. I found the argument quite analogous to the ones against heliocentrism in medieval times as they were too based on similair grounds - that god loves us therefore we are the "centre". Of course now this cannot be argued however the belief in how significant we are to God hasn't changed and the anti-heliocentrism arguments can be ommited and this part of science can be made consistent with religion. Maybe the same will happen to evolution. In my opinion, the fact that there is no analytical relationship between science and religion means that one can appease the two by changing interpretations and this being evident from many examples already, such as heliocentrism, makes me wonder why evolution is an issue.

[kamil9876]

I think this may be of interest to some:
http://drownyourself.com/?p=730

[kurrymuncher]

To be honest, I believe the kazaks created the universe, but anyway.....

Evolution ftw, I remember in year 8 religion class when the teacher tried to claim that God caused evolution.....................I raged!

[TrueTears]

To be honest, I believe the kazaks created the universe, but anyway.....

Evolution ftw, I remember in year 8 religion class when the teacher tried to claim that God caused evolution.....................I raged!

LOL KAZAK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

SARAM FROM KAZAK!

[m@tty]

How can you refute a someones theory? Just because you do not believe anothers theory does not mean you cannot see it as good from their perspective.
Of course I accept it as a theory, a good one for those who disagree with religion.


I believe science and religion work very well together when theories are refined to reality.
How does us being the centre have anything to do with evolution debates?

[TrueLight]

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Ok, but is there any evidence/testing of evolution? You didn't show any.
And I did say it was a good theory.

I'm not well-versed in biology so if I gave evidence I might get the details wrong, but there are lots of videos on youtube by AaronRa, cdk007, thunderf00t etc. which provide a lot of evidence for evolution e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ Evidence for Evolution

Lots of transitional fossils have been found which describe the evolution of certain species
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/completeness.html

But here's an example:
All great apes have 24 chromosomes, but humans only have 23. However, according to evolution, humans are apes. What they found was that the human chromosome 2 was actually fused together from two separate chromosomes.

By the way if you think evolution is a good theory then you recognise that it is a theory, so by your own definition you accept evolution.

it still doesnt PROVE that we came from apes

im seeming to agree with what m@tty is saying lol

[kurrymuncher]

How can you refute a someones theory? Just because you do not believe anothers theory does not mean you cannot see it as good from their perspective.
Of course I accept it as a theory, a good one for those who disagree with religion.


I believe science and religion work very well together when theories are refined to reality.
How does us being the centre have anything to do with evolution debates?

Science and religion will never be able to work together. If they did, then why would we be having this discussion?

Take a look at creation science on wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_science#Scientific_criticism

Not only is it the biggest bullshit I've ever read in my life, its almost embarrasing.

[m@tty]

I clearly put a condition that the theories are refined to reality.

[TrueLight]

 i do believe in god however, but saying that god just plopped us on the planet i dont really beleive that too...lol but evoltuion is a very good theory

hey kurrymuncher im not doing the religion vs evolution thing ... as in im not all crazy about literal bible translations

[kurrymuncher]

 i do believe in god however, but saying that god just plopped us on the planet i dont really beleive that too...lol but evoltuion is a very good theory

hey kurrymuncher im not doing the religion vs evolution thing ... as in im not all crazy about literal bible translations

No, i wasn't replying to your comment.