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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2009, 12:23:59 pm »
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Hmmmm......

See initially when reciprocating graphs I got taught that as y --> infinity, then 1/y ---> 0 and therefore the x-intercepts of the reciprocal graph occur when there is an asymptote on the y-axis. But then the problem that arises is that can we consider infinity as a number (without applying limits) which has the property of 1/infinity = 0?

For many of the reciprocal graphs I've drawn, y = 0 is an asymptote. Eg for y =x^2 where the reciprocal is just the basic truncus. While y = x^2 doesn't have an asymptote, as x--->infinity, y ---> infinity and hence for the reciprocal graph we say y----> 0 and that y = 0 is the asymptote. Here there is no crossing the asymptote and it is pretty clear that no matter what y will not equal zero. So if we are sketching the reciprocal of tan x, or even things like log x, why should they have x-intercepts at the asymptote?? This confuses me a bit.

As for limits, I think that can be deceptive because even if we have y = x, x is an element of R\{2}. Then the limits would tell us that as x ---> 2, then y ---> 2, but we would still put an open circle there because we know that x can't actually = 2. I thought limits in such cases were mainly to test differentiability but then it's just the start of the spesh course and I don't know half the stuff taught in spesh yet (let alone uni stuff which some people on this forum have covered).
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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2009, 01:16:25 pm »
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Like NE2000 has said, using spesh knowledge and applying reciprocal graphs and such, the intercepts being undefined is the way to do it, and I assume that since this is true, in an exam we'll be expected to use open circles as on the original tan graph, there would be asymptotes at these intercepts.
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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2009, 05:05:09 pm »
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if is undefined, it implies cosecant is undefined at also, even though it clearly is 1.
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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2009, 05:09:15 pm »
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also,



I hope that's convincing enough, as
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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2009, 07:04:46 pm »
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Calculator says it is 0, therefore it is 0.


QED

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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2009, 07:16:19 pm »
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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2009, 07:36:43 pm »
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Calculator says it is 0, therefore it is 0.


QED

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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2009, 07:51:17 pm »
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Calculator says it is 0, therefore it is 0.


QED

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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2009, 09:10:11 pm »
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Calculator says it is 0, therefore it is 0.


QED

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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2009, 09:57:24 pm »
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heys mao how did u make the cool picture? what program you used?

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Re: cot x and intercepts with the x-axis
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2009, 11:31:21 pm »
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heys mao how did u make the cool picture? what program you used?

It's from Wikipedia

Also, I just noticed, in Essential Specialist Maths it says

"The cotangent function is defined as:

provided ."