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mel_77777:
With the questions and essay in the VCE exam are quotes a requirement?

Personally, i dont think its reasonable to ask for quotes when there are 9 texts in total!


>>> If anyone has any philosophy practice exams relevant to this year's texts, it would be amazing if you could get them uploaded. Thanks :)

Menang:
Yes, I would definitely be memorising quotes.

I'm aiming for... 8-10, give or take a bit, quotes per text. And yes, it's a reasonable amount.

Memory isn't hard. It just takes time and effort, but pretty much everyone can do this bit of the course - it's just rote learning! :D

Just as a point of reference, I memorised over 80 quotes last year for Revs (which I see you did too) so you should be used to it by now! :D

Aurelian:
Do not memorise quotes.

Ghost!:

--- Quote from: Menang on September 18, 2011, 09:15:22 pm ---Yes, I would definitely be memorising quotes.

I'm aiming for... 8-10, give or take a bit, quotes per text. And yes, it's a reasonable amount.

Memory isn't hard. It just takes time and effort, but pretty much everyone can do this bit of the course - it's just rote learning! :D

Just as a point of reference, I memorised over 80 quotes last year for Revs (which I see you did too) so you should be used to it by now! :D

--- End quote ---

Wow! I know we're advised to include a few here and there, but I rarely use more than two per text.


--- Quote from: Aurelian on September 18, 2011, 09:47:36 pm ---Do not memorise quotes.

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Care to elaborate as to why? Personally, I wouldn't but curious as to why you discourage it.

Aurelian:

--- Quote from: Ghost! on September 18, 2011, 10:12:00 pm ---Care to elaborate as to why? Personally, I wouldn't but curious as to why you discourage it.

--- End quote ---

This isn't English - this is Philosophy. It's about understanding ideas and being able to express them pithily, and then critically evaluating them. You won't get marked down for using quotes, but you certainly won't win any favours either. What quotes suggest to a philosophy marker is either "this person is trying to impress me with their unnecessarily detailed knowledge of the text" or, and this is the main reason why you shouldn't quote, "this person is trying to veil their superficial understanding behind direct quotes". Given that like, over half the texts are translations of some sort, direct quoting doesn't even necessarily have the "proximity to authorial meaning" you might think it does anyway.

On top of that, aiming to memorise, as Menang said, "8-10 quotes per text" is just a massively inefficient waste of time.

I just scanned through my mind essays and literally the closest thing I ever came to quoting was when I put "thinking thing" in inverted commas while talking about Descartes.

Do not use quotes. If your teachers are telling you to use an extensive amount of quoting, particularly longish quotes, ignore them.

:)

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