Monash General Chat

[vilamonikoro1]

When do our new units typically get put on Moodle?

[AngelWings]

When do our new units typically get put on Moodle?

Moodle will be put up at random times close to semester, depending on each unit coordinator. Some units come up a couple, sometimes even a few, weeks before Week 1. Others won't appear until Week 1 Day 1 of semester 1. Most usually come a few days to a week before semester begins, so probably just keep checking around during O Week.

[Mitsuka]

I have a question regarding study breaks in-between classes. As I'm going to use the Cornell method of note-taking in which you ideally begin review soon after class finishes, I've arranged my classes where there's either a 2 or 3 hour break in-between and thought when making them that I'd just review and study for the full hours but then I'm still not completely sure what specifically I'd be doing during the whole period. So for my review time I'm planning to kind of form questions based on my Cornell notes as a way of consolidating the information and seeing what i don't understand, and answer them without referring to my notes. Afterwards I'd fill in the formulas and info from the slides, since I'm considering lectures as a period when I'm just concerned with understanding the concepts or ideas so I'd only be writing with the aim of capturing it in a way I can understand it. In saying that I still don't feel that I have a focus on what exactly I'd do as I haven't actually implemented it yet, so I'd like to ask what approach have you people developed during uni for lectures and studying afterwards and also what issues you've experienced.

[VanillaRice]

I have a question regarding study breaks in-between classes. As I'm going to use the Cornell method of note-taking in which you ideally begin review soon after class finishes, I've arranged my classes where there's either a 2 or 3 hour break in-between and thought when making them that I'd just review and study for the full hours but then I'm still not completely sure what specifically I'd be doing during the whole period. So for my review time I'm planning to kind of form questions based on my Cornell notes as a way of consolidating the information and seeing what i don't understand, and answer them without referring to my notes. Afterwards I'd fill in the formulas and info from the slides, since I'm considering lectures as a period when I'm just concerned with understanding the concepts or ideas so I'd only be writing with the aim of capturing it in a way I can understand it. In saying that I still don't feel that I have a focus on what exactly I'd do as I haven't actually implemented it yet, so I'd like to ask what approach have you people developed during uni for lectures and studying afterwards and also what issues you've experienced.

Most lecturers will begin (or occasionally, end) their lecture with a slide containing a list of "lecture objectives", which covers what you should get out of the lecture (sort of like the dot points in a VCE study design, except less detailed). Not too sure on how Cornell notes work, but perhaps there is a way you could organise your notes depending on the lecture objective? Just a suggestion

I would say it's fine to use the first few weeks as a sort of trial, to see what does and doesn't work for you. Most lecturers will understand that you've just started Uni, so it's a good time to experiment with different study techniques in my opinion (as they'll be taking it easy for awhile in terms of content).

[Mitsuka]

Yeah, I'm now thinking of using them as headers and using them as ideas to focus on and keep in mind. Another question I have which pertains to CHM1011 and BMS first year unit lab and tute classes is whether you'd prefer to have them back to back or not, and what happens during the classes since if I'm learning new content I'd like to review straight after. Also were the labs though especially CHM ones kind of hectic, and if I do have a lecture right after what's the chance of getting a seat in the front-middle rows, or is that not a worry because I'd heard classes usually end 5 minutes before the scheduled one.

[keltingmeith]

Yeah, I'm now thinking of using them as headers and using them as ideas to focus on and keep in mind. Another question I have which pertains to CHM1011 and BMS first year unit lab and tute classes is whether you'd prefer to have them back to back or not, and what happens during the classes since if I'm learning new content I'd like to review straight after. Also were the labs though especially CHM ones kind of hectic, and if I do have a lecture right after what's the chance of getting a seat in the front-middle rows, or is that not a worry because I'd heard classes usually end 5 minutes before the scheduled one.

In my experience for every lab I've ever done, they're not hectic, as long as you do the pre-reading. This typically just means doing all of the pre-lab questions (which for CHM at least, you had to do to even be allowed in the lab), and having read through the experiment beforehand so you know what you're doing. Also make sure you ask your demonstrator questions when you're unsure, otherwise you'll waste 10 minutes or more just second-guessing yourself instead of asking for help. I have, however, found them fairly draining, and wouldn't want to do them back to back - at the very least, I'd put a lunch break in the middle, if possible. Granted, all of my chem labs were four hours long - 1011 is three at max, and typically 2.5 if you get stuck into it, so you might be fine there.

It depends on the lecture on what your chances are for specific, but typically pretty good. It also helps a lot that most people want to sit as far back as possible.

[The Special One]

Thanks for the 8 am lectures Monash.
I Love waking up at 6 am.

[sweetiepi]

Thanks for the 8 am lectures Monash.
I Love waking up at 6 am.

Mate, for an 8am class I'd need to be up and on a train by minimum 6am- lots of people are in the same boat as you.

[The Special One]

Mate, for an 8am class I'd need to be up and on a train by minimum 6am- lots of people are in the same boat as you.

Yeah but you have one class they gave me more than one 8 am class in a row.

Just because others have to
 suffer doesn't mean I can't complain about suffering.

Where's our government that's meant to represent us? They need to  draft up legislation to  fix  real issues like banning all compulsory lectures for being cruel and unusual punishment.

[Potatohater]

Where's our government that's meant to represent us? They need to  draft up legislation to  fix  real issues like banning all compulsory lectures for being cruel and unusual punishment.

With all due respect, I believe our government has bigger fish to fry, such as asylum seeker policy and climate change. Not a some uni students have a whinge about their early morning classes.

[Joseph41]

Yeah but you have one class they gave me more than one 8 am class in a row.

Just because others have to
 suffer doesn't mean I can't complain about suffering.

Where's our government that's meant to represent us? They need to  draft up legislation to  fix  real issues like banning all compulsory lectures for being cruel and unusual punishment.

If you consider relatively accessible education "cruel and unusual punishment", perhaps uni isn't for you. Uni isn't compulsory.

[sweetiepi]

Yeah but you have one class they gave me more than one 8 am class in a row.

Just because others have to
 suffer doesn't mean I can't complain about suffering.

Where's our government that's meant to represent us? They need to  draft up legislation to  fix  real issues like banning all compulsory lectures for being cruel and unusual punishment.

I was speaking in general, haha. I don't even get my timetable until the 20th.

If you're complaining about compulsory lectures, how did you like compulsory attendance at school?

[The Special One]

If you consider relatively accessible education "cruel and unusual punishment", perhaps uni isn't for you. Uni isn't compulsory.

I consider anything earlier than a 9 am start to be awful haha. And that was a joke I wasn't serious lol

[The Special One]

I was speaking in general, haha. I don't even get my timetable until the 20th.

If you're complaining about compulsory lectures, how did you like compulsory attendance at school?

I was fine with compulsory attendance at school in fact I hadn't t missed a day of school in 7 years!

But school always starts at 9am universally.

And school had a much shorter more convenient transit.

I'm someone who likes a standard morning routine and when I have to change it every half semester my morning clock gets stuffed up.

At work it's usually 9-5 every day when it's scheduled and constant I'm fine. When it's irregular and ever changing I have a problem.

That's just me though I get why unis do it and I can't blame them but I hate it personally.

[Springyboy]

I'm someone who likes a standard morning routine and when I have to change it every half semester my morning clock gets stuffed up.

At work it's usually 9-5 every day when it's scheduled and constant I'm fine. When it's irregular and ever changing I have a problem.

That's just me though I get why unis do it and I can't blame them but I hate it personally.

Same here. In fact, last sem I had an 8am-4pm day with only a half an hour gap throughout the day which was hectic. However I got used to those 8am starts so much so that I actually picked a lecture that started at 8am this semester on the same day (Wednesday) to get back into the routine of getting used to those classes. That way, the annoyance is far easier to overcome and you can grow from that routine to ensure that the 8am starts (hopefully) only happen 1 day a week.