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« Reply #7050 on: December 02, 2014, 06:15:10 pm »
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dw, i see, its the 0x

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« Reply #7051 on: December 02, 2014, 09:41:26 pm »
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i was just wondering in what book do they teach you division by inspection and what page is it on?

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« Reply #7052 on: December 02, 2014, 09:49:56 pm »
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i was just wondering in what book do they teach you division by inspection and what page is it on?

Long division? Im guessing its the same thing. This was what i found and it taught me very quickly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ft5iHhauJ0

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« Reply #7053 on: December 02, 2014, 10:49:33 pm »
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Hi can anyone help me with the question: a cuboid tank is open at the top and the internal dimensions of it base are x metre an 2x metre. The height is h metre. The volume of the tank is fixed. Let s m^2 denote internal surface area of the tank.  If 2<x<15 find the maximum value of s if v equals 1000m^3. I don't undertand why they sub in x equals to 2 to get max of s because isn't the domain restriction 2 less than x? Which does not include 2?

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« Reply #7054 on: December 03, 2014, 02:02:17 am »
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i was just wondering in what book do they teach you division by inspection and what page is it on?

No clue if it's in the book at all, but here is a very good video I found after searching the internet.

Hi can anyone help me with the question: a cuboid tank is open at the top and the internal dimensions of it base are x metre an 2x metre. The height is h metre. The volume of the tank is fixed. Let s m^2 denote internal surface area of the tank.  If 2<x<15 find the maximum value of s if v equals 1000m^3. I don't undertand why they sub in x equals to 2 to get max of s because isn't the domain restriction 2 less than x? Which does not include 2?

Even though 2 isn't included, you can still consider it - because the TRUE volume will be so darn shy of the real minimum for x that it doesn't matter, and it's best to consider the 2.

For example, consider f(x)=x^2+6x+5, 0<x<5.
As this is a positive quadratic, the maximum MUST be at the endpoints. So, we consider these to find the maximum:
f(0)=5
f(5)=25+30+5=60

Now, we know that the maximum CANNOT be 60, because 5 isn't included. BUT, infinitely small is a point just before x=5, and that is included. The difference in these points is so small, that f(second point)=60, just because the change in the output values will ALSO be just this small.

Hence why we can consider x=2 and x=15 even though they're not included.

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« Reply #7055 on: December 03, 2014, 01:28:27 pm »
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math quest or essentials or heinnamann, which one do you think i should do?

points to consider
  • which one will be best prep
  • best extended answer questions
  • most updated (tho this depends on edition)
  • the book that must accurately aligns with VCAA standard

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« Reply #7056 on: December 03, 2014, 02:47:18 pm »
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math quest or essentials or heinnamann, which one do you think i should do?

points to consider
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  • best extended answer questions
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  • the book that must accurately aligns with VCAA standard
read this very detailed summary by pi: Generalised Textbook Summaries
I think Essential is the best imo.
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« Reply #7057 on: December 03, 2014, 03:08:22 pm »
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read this very detailed summary by pi: Generalised Textbook Summaries
I think Essential is the best imo.

i have :/ we do heinnemann

btw the range shouldnt include 1 should it?

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« Reply #7058 on: December 03, 2014, 03:14:27 pm »
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i have :/ we do heinnemann

btw the range shouldnt include 1 should it?
Yeah the range should be less than 1 but not including as it approaches y=1 but never actually passes it
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« Reply #7059 on: December 03, 2014, 03:40:45 pm »
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when doing absolute value functions (modulus), how do you know what domain to look at ?

e.g. y = -|3x + 1|,

and also the addition and subtraction ones?  y = |x-3| - |x+2|

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« Reply #7060 on: December 03, 2014, 04:02:43 pm »
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when doing absolute value functions (modulus), how do you know what domain to look at ?

e.g. y = -|3x + 1|,

and also the addition and subtraction ones?  y = |x-3| - |x+2|

Remember that for any modulus function:



So, for your first one, we need to find out when the function is less than and greater than zero:



So, the function can be broken into a two piece hybrid:




For your other one, let's consider the two parts separately as above.

For the first one (|x-3|), we have that x-3 when x>=3 and 3-x when x<3 (using the above working), and for |x+2| we have x+2 when x>=-2 and -x-2 when x<-2.

Now, when we combine them, we need to consider when these domains intersect. So, we have three cases:

1) x>=3, in which case both modulus are positive
2) -2<=x<3, in which case the first modulus is negative, but the second one is positive still.
3) x<-2, in which case both the modulus are negative.

Using this, we can construct a hybrid function for the three pieces:



(NOTE: I'm pretty sure general convention is that as you go from left to right in your domain, you go top to bottom in the piecewise function. I didn't do this, and I'm too lazy to fix that, but thoughts for next time. :P)


You can also extend this to n additions of modulus functions, like so:

y=|x-5|+|x+1|-|x-2|

Using the theory above, see if you can figure this question out. I'll type up a solution in spoiler tags in a second.

Solution to above - try it first!!
Okay, so once again we consider the above three separately (I have run through it much quicker than above):





Now, we find the intersection points. At a glance we have three critical points (-1, 2, 5), so we have 4 intersection intervals:

x<-1, in which case all are negative
-1<=x<2, in which case |x+1| is positive and the other two are negative
2<=x<5, in which case |x-5| is negative and the other two are positive
x>=5, in which case all are positive.

So, this meaty thing gives us: (remember, y=|x-5|+|x+1|-|x-2|)


Looking at wolfram, this hybrid function looks very similar to the graph they've provided, and so we can say with good confidence that we're right.

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« Reply #7061 on: December 04, 2014, 12:57:09 am »
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How would you solve this equation?


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« Reply #7062 on: December 04, 2014, 03:01:31 am »
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How would you solve this equation?


Honestly, the easiest way to do it just to visualize the graph.



x-intercepts at and

The graph is above the x-axis for and .
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« Reply #7063 on: December 04, 2014, 10:30:08 am »
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Hi

Can anyone explain to me the trick where you convert 2x-3/5-2x to    -2/(2x-5) -1 in like 2 steps or something?
Thanks!  :D
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« Reply #7064 on: December 04, 2014, 10:54:19 am »
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(2x - 3)/(5-2x) = - (2x - 3)/(2x - 5) = -(2x - 5 + 2)/(2x-5) = [-(2x-5) - 2]/(2x-5) = -(2x-5)/(2x-5) - 2/(2x-5) = -1 - 2/(2x-5), as required.

You can also expand the fraction using polynomial long division, if you are having difficulties expanding it by inspection.
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