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JaredV

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Further maths or legal studies?
« on: December 15, 2011, 12:57:47 am »
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Sorry if this is in the wrong place, I couldn't decide whether to put it in the further or legal section  :-\

I'm going into year 12 next year and to cut a long story short, I'm dropping chemistry and, due to timetable blocking, the only two subjects that I can (and would want) to pick up are either further or legal... and I really need some advice of what to do because to me they seem remarkably equal in pros and cons in their own ways.

The reason I post this in the further maths section is because I'm leaning more towards it, having done methods 3/4 this year. I didn't find methods overly challenging, (albeit it was a lot of work, and I'm not sure how well I actually did) and from what I've seen of past further exams, I wouldn't find it too challenging. However, I've heard from many that further is extremely competitive and it's deceptively difficult to do well in.

My other option being legal studies is sort of out of the blue I guess; I haven't done legal 1/2 nor anything commerce related for that matter, however the course really sounds interesting to me and I feel it would help on a knowledge level in some of my humanities (particularly english). I also quite enjoy the rote learning style. But again I've heard from some that legal is also quite competitive :S

Thank you for reading my rant!  :-[ ;D
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 01:23:35 am »
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Maybe you should face the maths side since you're willing to go towards further maths.
Just do the subject you like and enjoy and obviously you will have a better result.
Legal is not competitive, it just require more reading and memorrizing, if you do want I can sent you some awesome
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Btw further is really competitive since it's an easy subject and if you have done methods3/4 and I srsly don't think there will be any problems
that you might overcome :)
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 08:50:57 am »
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ok let me tell you a little secret: every subject is competetive! the only reason further maths has a reputation is because its exams are relatively easier(for most people) and so more people get full marks, so the competetivness is balanced by the ease of the subject....having said that, i would say based on the fact that you have done methods 1/2 you should definitely go with further. if you pick the models: trig, graphs and matrices, thats basically 3 quarters of the course already covered by methods(and im not even joking) bar a few extra stuff hear and there( more application style questions than methods) . so my advise is take further, finish the course eatly than start spamming prac exams till november and i gaurentee youll get a good score:)

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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 09:52:28 am »
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further easily.
given that you didnt find methods too tough, you are definately capable of getting 50, or close to it, if you work hard, and manage to look out for common mistakes that you make. Legal is a bit tougher, so I would strongly recommend taking further.
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 12:41:13 pm »
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Hey there!

I picked up Legal 3/4 in Year 11 and I also picked up further after doing Methods for a semester in Year 11 so hopefully i can offer you some advice!

Honestly if you've done any methods you will blitz further, it is very easy to do OKAY in and understand, but as it is up there with English as one of the most popular subjects, it is difficult to go REALLY REALLY WELL in so you need to dedicate a lot of time to it even if you think it's 'sooo easy'! Also don't underestimate the importance of fully getting the theory behind further, lots of examiners love to pick the brains of further students as they know that we kiddies tend to plug sh*t into the calc and let the calc do the thinking for us, so if you can grasp all the concepts really well (which im sure you will) you will ace it!

Legal was a different story for me, though! Idk bout you but i am not a student who does well in content-based subjects, i tend to follow the skills-based, creativity, deep thinking ones! If you are good at memorising things and find a way that you can get passionate about legal, then it will really work to your advantage! If you immerse yourself in legal, get extra reading, visit courtrooms, borrow a copy of the constitution, etc it will be of enormous benefit to you in the long run!

So yeah i spose decide what kinda student you are then make your decision from there, best of luck!  :)
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 03:46:20 pm »
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Thank you all so much for all the advice, it really helped  ;D

Right now, I'm thinking further would be the better option. The fact I did methods seems to point towards doing further and I think that further would help balance out my subjects because without it I'll have no maths, which I would like.. Plus I'm already doing psych which has a lot to remember, so legal probably wouldn't be the best in that respect.

Thank you all again!! Really really appreciate it  :)
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 04:00:48 pm »
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Thank you all so much for all the advice, it really helped  ;D

Right now, I'm thinking further would be the better option. The fact I did methods seems to point towards doing further and I think that further would help balance out my subjects because without it I'll have no maths, which I would like.. Plus I'm already doing psych which has a lot to remember, so legal probably wouldn't be the best in that respect.

Thank you all again!! Really really appreciate it  :)
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 10:33:40 am »
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Hi sorry, I've become unsure again  :-\ :-[

After seeing my study score for methods, I'm not so sure I can do that well in further. I got 37 raw, which I am extremely happy with, but I'm not sure that signals for me to do further, as really I want to fill this subject position with something I have a chance of getting 45+ in.

For some reason I feel I could do better in legal studies; I did quite well in biology, which while I know is very different to legal, is also content based.

Sorry for being such a worry wart, I'm cursed by my indecisiveness :-[
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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 11:20:23 am »
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Definitely go with Legal studies! This year I basically didn't do much study consistently - only the lead up before sacs and basically gave up the days leading up to the exam due to lack of motivation, but all the info came back to me. It's a good subject for simple learning and if you understand the concepts well enough as opposed to rote learning/aimless memorising you will definitely reap the rewards. It's all about applying the info in abstract ways and using random examples to seal the deal. This got me a 45+

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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 12:39:19 pm »
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no definitely go with further. 37 for methods in year 11 is a strong score. your capable of gettin high 40s in further if you put a the effort in. i just banked a 50 for further this year and i can tell you it was easier than year 11 methods

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Re: Further maths or legal studies?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 11:15:26 am »
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Thank you again :)

I've decided to go with legal this time. If worst comes to worst I can switch to further in the first few weeks.

I will stop bothering you now haha. Thank you!
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