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Teacher quality vs Studying
Truck:
--- Quote from: paulsterio on December 25, 2011, 10:15:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: teewreck on December 25, 2011, 03:00:09 pm ---Year 8 man, I wasn't at MHS in year 8 lol.
edit: Also Janson is a guy, I definitely said "she" :P.
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my bad, didn't read it properly, having done Year 12 Software Development, the name "Janson" literally just bubbles around in my head, he's like god of IT everywhere :P my teacher even used his powerpoint slides LOL! (not that she was any good at teaching IT anyway - she was crap :P)
anyways, is it just me or do IT teachers just seem really bad and lazy in general?
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Yeah agreed, very rarely do you get IT teachers who are actually any good... Janson seems to actually be an exception =P.
paulsterio:
--- Quote from: teewreck on December 25, 2011, 10:22:55 pm ---Yeah agreed, very rarely do you get IT teachers who are actually any good... Janson seems to actually be an exception =P.
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I think it's because IT is such a niche sort of area in teaching, like there's a lot of IT graduates out there, but the fact that employability in IT is quite high and because of the really really low demand for IT teachers, you only usually get the crap ones who can't find a job in the IT industry. Janson is an exception, that's true, so is Mark Kelly (at McKinnon) and apparently the Melbourne Grammar one is good as well, can't recall his name
But that also raises another issue, maybe bad teachers are just people who can't find employment in whatever field they were in before, so they decided to go into teaching?
Truck:
--- Quote from: paulsterio on December 26, 2011, 12:22:18 am ---
--- Quote from: teewreck on December 25, 2011, 10:22:55 pm ---Yeah agreed, very rarely do you get IT teachers who are actually any good... Janson seems to actually be an exception =P.
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I think it's because IT is such a niche sort of area in teaching, like there's a lot of IT graduates out there, but the fact that employability in IT is quite high and because of the really really low demand for IT teachers, you only usually get the crap ones who can't find a job in the IT industry. Janson is an exception, that's true, so is Mark Kelly (at McKinnon) and apparently the Melbourne Grammar one is good as well, can't recall his name
But that also raises another issue, maybe bad teachers are just people who can't find employment in whatever field they were in before, so they decided to go into teaching?
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Look at a country like Sweden where teachers are much more respected and get higher salaries and you'll see that their education outcomes are on average, much better than our own (there's UN statistics on it somewhere, if you don't believe me I'll try dig them out).
One of the largest problems with our education system is the terrible salary and lack of respect teachers get. You need like an ATAR of 60 to get into teaching, and it's perhaps one of the most important jobs (training the future for gods sake!). If there was a higher cut-off and a better salary the quality of teachers would undoubtedly go up, and you could have PhD's teaching high school maths!
nacho:
guarantee my english teacher would rank top 5 amongst the english teachers in australia
did it make a difference? yea, massive difference, he made me love english, it was like exploring the subject and its nuances, like music
the man is epic, i was very lucky to have him
teachers do make a difference
--- Quote from: paulsterio on December 25, 2011, 10:15:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: teewreck on December 25, 2011, 03:00:09 pm ---Year 8 man, I wasn't at MHS in year 8 lol.
edit: Also Janson is a guy, I definitely said "she" :P.
--- End quote ---
my bad, didn't read it properly, having done Year 12 Software Development, the name "Janson" literally just bubbles around in my head, he's like god of IT everywhere :P my teacher even used his powerpoint slides LOL! (not that she was any good at teaching IT anyway - she was crap :P)
anyways, is it just me or do IT teachers just seem really bad and lazy in general?
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is he like the mark kelly of software dev?
mchli:
--- Quote from: aabattery on December 23, 2011, 05:59:48 pm ---my music teacher would forget to turn up to classes... we would just go to the music computer labs and have fun on youtube/miniclip etc... one time, we actually found him in the staff room eating noodles and reading a newspaper...
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Hahahaha... Remember when I vs'd you in chess on the computer, I was winning until he came over and helped you win...
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