Melbourne MD

[Russ]

Yeah in 2015 the guaranteed places will cut the available places by 20%. And a 65 gamsat is about 90th percentile. Maybe a little less.

what do you do with a biomed degree if you're unsuccessful?

The exact reason I chose science over biomed

There is zero difference in options if a science student and biomedicine student both apply for medicine and don't get in.

[nubs]

I think I should've clarified
There is nothing that appeals to me apart from medicine out of all the potential job and further study options given to Biomedicine students
If I were to do science on the other hand, I could major in Mechanical or Electrical systems or Mathematics and Statistics and go on from there, I wouldn't get that option if I were to do Biomedicine.
I know I wouldn't satisfy the med prereqs at Melbourne, but I'd still be able to apply to other med schools if I were to do an Electrical or Mechanical systems major, and if I didn't get a position, I could always continue my engineering study at Melbourne in one of those fields
does that make sense or am i missing something?

[dc302]

I think I should've clarified
There is nothing that appeals to me apart from medicine out of all the potential job and further study options given to Biomedicine students
If I were to do science on the other hand, I could major in Mechanical or Electrical systems or Mathematics and Statistics and go on from there, I wouldn't get that option if I were to do Biomedicine.
I know I wouldn't satisfy the med prereqs at Melbourne, but I'd still be able to apply to other med schools if I were to do an Electrical or Mechanical systems major, and if I didn't get a position, I could always continue my engineering study at Melbourne in one of those fields
does that make sense or am i missing something?

Yep, you're right. Example: my major.

[jasrulz63]

Also there's nothing to say you absolutely can't satisfy the med prereqs at Melbourne if you don't do a life science major, as your major wouldn't take up every subject slot in your degree, dc302 being a good example of that

[nubs]

Yeah I'll probably be doing the same major as him, but I won't be able to fit in the med prereqs with an Electrical or Mechanical systems major, unless I get permission to skip one of the biology subjects, or take up an extra subject altogether

[Russ]

I suppose I should clarify what I said - you'll have the same options but in a different field if you chose a different major. You'll be looking at progressing into a maths related field, I would have been looking at progressing into an immunological field (be it research, full time work etc.).

The degrees are essentially equivalent, neither is more "employable" than the other

[VivaTequila]

Something I don't understand - all those who receive 99+ are guaranteed a full-fee place into the MD should they so choose it. There are 400 people in Biomed who have all received above 99, not to mention ~20 (guessing) in Science who all want to do the MD.

There's likely to be many more wanting to do MD in science who have scores just under that of biomed. I know of 6 people that come to mind. I'd place my bets on 100-200 that will actually be competitors for the high scores needed for md.

[Panicmode]

Something I don't understand - all those who receive 99+ are guaranteed a full-fee place into the MD should they so choose it. There are 400 people in Biomed who have all received above 99, not to mention ~20 (guessing) in Science who all want to do the MD.

There's likely to be many more wanting to do MD in science who have scores just under that of biomed. I know of 6 people that come to mind. I'd place my bets on 100-200 that will actually be competitors for the high scores needed for md.

Ok, let's say that around 400 of the biomed students want to do graduate medicine at Melbourne.

Now let's go 300 of the science students want to do graduate medicine.

Now outside the university, there are probably around 1000 applicants (interstate, other universities + NZ)


They are all competing for 205 CSP places (given that around 50 of the 255 are already taken)

205/1700 x 100 = 12.0588235% chance of getting a CSP if all applicants are considered to have an equal chance.


This even is probably a gross under-exaggeration.

Chances do not look good lol.

[dc302]

Something I don't understand - all those who receive 99+ are guaranteed a full-fee place into the MD should they so choose it. There are 400 people in Biomed who have all received above 99, not to mention ~20 (guessing) in Science who all want to do the MD.

There's likely to be many more wanting to do MD in science who have scores just under that of biomed. I know of 6 people that come to mind. I'd place my bets on 100-200 that will actually be competitors for the high scores needed for md.

Ok, let's say that around 400 of the biomed students want to do graduate medicine at Melbourne.

Now let's go 300 of the science students want to do graduate medicine.

Now outside the university, there are probably around 1000 applicants (interstate, other universities + NZ)


They are all competing for 205 CSP places (given that around 50 of the 255 are already taken)

205/1700 x 100 = 12.0588235% chance of getting a CSP if all applicants are considered to have an equal chance.


This even is probably a gross under-exaggeration.

Chances do not look good lol.

Chances? It's called working hard. I think you should think about the kind of scores you need and how to achieve them, rather than probability which you can't control.

[Panicmode]

Something I don't understand - all those who receive 99+ are guaranteed a full-fee place into the MD should they so choose it. There are 400 people in Biomed who have all received above 99, not to mention ~20 (guessing) in Science who all want to do the MD.

There's likely to be many more wanting to do MD in science who have scores just under that of biomed. I know of 6 people that come to mind. I'd place my bets on 100-200 that will actually be competitors for the high scores needed for md.

Ok, let's say that around 400 of the biomed students want to do graduate medicine at Melbourne.

Now let's go 300 of the science students want to do graduate medicine.

Now outside the university, there are probably around 1000 applicants (interstate, other universities + NZ)


They are all competing for 205 CSP places (given that around 50 of the 255 are already taken)

205/1700 x 100 = 12.0588235% chance of getting a CSP if all applicants are considered to have an equal chance.


This even is probably a gross under-exaggeration.

Chances do not look good lol.

Chances? It's called working hard. I think you should think about the kind of scores you need and how to achieve them, rather than probability which you can't control.

I know, I know It's just interesting to do the math.

I'm not bitching and whining at all. It'll make it all the more better when I do get an offer. (when not if, I'm gonna make sure I get one)