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aes_999:
Yeah u still can practice law if u go to USyd. But why go to USyd if you wanna practice law in Victoria? And uh, sadly Monash's international reputation is ok, but not as good when compared to the top GO8 unis, since Monash focuses more on practical things instead of research based stuff. That's why Monash is ranked lower in the world uni rankings

Eriny:
The alma mater factor wouldn't be significant if you went to USyd and wanted to work in Melbourne, it would be far more significant though if you wanted (or at least were willing) to work in Sydney. Whether going interstate worthwhile would depend on what you really want to do afterward. If you want to be a lawyer in Melbourne, go for Monash. If you want to do research or something where international reputation matters, then I think it may be worth looking at other options too (that said, Monash holds it own in terms of prestige anyway).

paulsterio:
Why not ANU?

Mech:
Within the country, University of Sydney probably has the best undergraduate law degree. From my knowledge, which is relatively limited, UoM's JD is the most prestigious graduate law degree and allows you the added bonus to be more recognised if you wish to gallivant around overseas flaunting your legal skills/repertoire. If not, and you wish to be a confined to the landmass of Australia, your degree from any university will be fine and would be wonderfully prestigious if from the University of Sydney provided your marks are of a high calibre; nobody will give an iota of a dog turd about your alma mater if you have poor marks.

I am not quite sure why people are so pedantic about these things. Really, if you live in Melbourne and want a prestigious undergraduate law degree - Monash is right there. Competitive, renowned for offering a good course and has produced great legal minds. Also, UoM's model is not all bad; employers want you to have more diverse skills and some students want to spend a few years sussing out their degrees and interests before entering law. Furthermore, in terms of time, I believe it is five years to complete a LLB and it takes three years for your undergraduate and three years for you JD at Uom. Six years with potentially up to three majors in your undergraduate and then a law degree tacked on the end. That's not bad if you want to have a broad knowledge and so forth. The only down side is the LSAT and your maintaining a competitive GPA. If you don't, you can always just apply for graduate law elsewhere. Employers really just want people with skills and can bring what is needed to the table and show some adaptability/community skills.

Take a load off, relax and stop thinking you will be some hot shot lawyer purely based on your alma mater. It takes a lot of work to get to the Bar (if you want to be a barrister) and an even greater amount of time from being an underling to a solicitor/barrister before you have your own reputation. If you are pursuing law for status and what not, you will probably have your nose rubbed up the wrong way when you end up on a lower income than most and effectively shuffling papers as an overqualified paper boy. If you really want it, you have to work for it.

Truck:

--- Quote from: paulsterio on February 09, 2012, 11:13:27 pm ---Why not ANU?

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Definitely considering it, however tbh I don't really want to live in Canberra (I know it's a shallow reason but seriously, I think living there would suck :P).


--- Quote from: Mech on February 09, 2012, 11:19:24 pm ---Within the country, University of Sydney probably has the best undergraduate law degree. From my knowledge, which is relatively limited, UoM's JD is the most prestigious graduate law degree and allows you the added bonus to be more recognised if you wish to gallivant around overseas flaunting your legal skills/repertoire. If not, and you wish to be a confined to the landmass of Australia, your degree from any university will be fine and would be wonderfully prestigious if from the University of Sydney provided your marks are of a high calibre; nobody will give an iota of a dog turd about your alma mater if you have poor marks.

I am not quite sure why people are so pedantic about these things. Really, if you live in Melbourne and want a prestigious undergraduate law degree - Monash is right there. Competitive, renowned for offering a good course and has produced great legal minds. Also, UoM's model is not all bad; employers want you to have more diverse skills and some students want to spend a few years sussing out their degrees and interests before entering law. Furthermore, in terms of time, I believe it is five years to complete a LLB and it takes three years for your undergraduate and three years for you JD at Uom. Six years with potentially up to three majors in your undergraduate and then a law degree tacked on the end. That's not bad if you want to have a broad knowledge and so forth. The only down side is the LSAT and your maintaining a competitive GPA. If you don't, you can always just apply for graduate law elsewhere. Employers really just want people with skills and can bring what is needed to the table and show some adaptability/community skills.

Take a load off, relax and stop thinking you will be some hot shot lawyer purely based on your alma mater. It takes a lot of work to get to the Bar (if you want to be a barrister) and an even greater amount of time from being an underling to a solicitor/barrister before you have your own reputation. If you are pursuing law for status and what not, you will probably have your nose rubbed up the wrong way when you end up on a lower income than most and effectively shuffling papers as an overqualified paper boy. If you really want it, you have to work for it.

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Cheers for that. I understand the degree would entail hard work regardless where I study, I think that maintaining a high GPA is a given in almost any course if you want a good job, whether it be Commerce, Law or Science. The reality is that I've wanted to be a lawyer for a long time now and have weighed up a lot of other professions, so I suppose I'm being pedantic because I want to make sure I make the best decision about which university to go to so I don't regret it in the future. Honestly, the main reasons I created this thread are:

a) I'm not sure whether or not I'd like to work internationally in Law (at least for a short period in time), although I think eventually I'd want to settle down and live in Australia, thus I'm not entirely sure about how "viable" it is to obtain a job internationally with Monash as an alma mater.
b) *Wasn't* sure whether or not it would provide a substantial difference to study in USyd vs Monash/Melb.

However, based on the responses and some more general research, it seems like I'm going to rule out USyd and start to really think about the benefits of a BCom/L.L.B. at Monash vs. BComm at Melbourne followed by a J.D.. Still leaning towards the Monash option but Melbourne is becoming increasingly appealing. Thanks for the post(s), and if any of you have any further information relevant to my decision it'd be appreciated.

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