Revamp of karma system.

[enwiabe]

Here's what I'm thinking.

Full system reset.

Instead of being able to give out one karma every 12 hours, it'll be one karma every 72 hours.

Mods will not be able to circumvent this time lapse.

All karma messages (I.E. reasons) will be brought under much greater scrutiny for violations of the code of conduct.

Postcount requirement to be lifted to 100 posts.

Thoughts? Suggestions? WILD IDEAS?!

[shinny]

All karma messages (I.E. reasons) will be brought under much greater scrutiny for violations of the code of conduct.

What exactly are these violations? From what I see, the common pattern right now is around 1 karma for helping someone do a question (usually maths/chem/physics), but around 10 for doing a funny post. Are we still going to allow karma simply for epic posts or only for actual acts of good-will?

And dammit, scrutiny just means more work for us mods ]:

[kurrymuncher]

violations like these http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php?action=otherkarma;u=2507

[enwiabe]

I mean scrutiny on code of conduct violations.

Anyone can have any personal reason for giving karma. We are not the thought police. But I will delete karma messages that I see, or are brought to my attention which defame members or espouse racial epithets etc.

Only breaches of the code of conduct will be deleted.

[shinny]

OH right. Totally misunderstood what you meant.

[dejan91]

Maybe have separate karma for helpfulness and 'epic posts'? Could be slightly impractical but hey...it's a suggestion

[dekoyl]

Nay for the system reset. Just leave it but by all means critically observe karma messages.

If anything, I think the 12 hour karma per person is too long. I've asked questions and have received genuine help from the same person but was unable to further thank them =(

And instead of having the 1 karma per person each 12 hours, a member could get a limit on how much karma they can give or take. Say, 5 karma to use by each member per 24 hours. So, I can give person A +2 karma for helping me out,+1 to person B for helping me and -1 to person C in 24 hours. Of course, if anyone decides to -5 karma to a single person everyday, the mods will take action.

Oh and maybe disable +/- karma in PMs.

I have no problems with raising the post count for karma giving/taking.

[enwiabe]

And instead of having the 1 karma per person each 12 hours, a member could get a limit on how much karma they can give or take. Say, 5 karma to use by each member per 24 hours. So, I can give person A +2 karma for helping me out,+1 to person B for helping me and -1 to person C in 24 hours. Of course, if anyone decides to -5 karma to a single person everyday, the mods will take action.

I love this idea. What say all of you to limiting people to AN amount of karma per day?

I.E. You're allowed to give a maximum of x karma per day.

I still think we should keep the cap on how many times you can karma an individual person, but I love your idea of an absolute karma cap.

It's not feasible on the current karma mod that we have, but I'm sure this option must exist. I'll search for it when I have time.

[dcc]

As I've been saying for years upon years, the karma system needs to go altogether.

A far more optimal system would be to judge <individual posts> on their usefulness and relevance.  Imagine this, you read a thread, you find a post which tells you something you really need to know, so you +1 the POST.  This means that generally constructive, useful (or perhaps humorous) posts will be easily visible.

I feel (and many others who I have put this idea to) that this system would be far better then the current implementation of karma, and that is it necessary, given how irrelevant the karma system is at the moment.

[enwiabe]

If you can find me the modification that does this on the SMF mod site (and I mean a GOOD one that's been tested and people seem to like).

Paste it here and I'll put it in.

I should note that our server's FTP is currently playing up so mods will be delayed a bit, but I will have this issue resolved during the holidays at least.

So, yeah, these are on the to-do list.

[costargh]

Dont scrap it. I was already at like 150 on my new account rofl... i wood have over 330 karma unknown by new members!

i like the karma limit

[hard]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COSTARGH IS GLOBAL FTWWW

[AppleThief]

Meh, karma is just for funsies, I've always thought. (Actually, not always. When I first joined I thought it was serious business; now it's just a fun toy for me to play with.)

In other words, I don't think it needs to be scrapped, although I do agree with dekoyl's idea of have a certain amount of karma points each day (if that is even possible).

[methodsboy]

violations like these http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php?action=otherkarma;u=2507

[Eriny]

I think a limit on postcount to give karma is actually quite silly. Why?:
a) If a newbie abuses karma we can quite easily stop/reverse it.
b) If a newbie gets genuine help from person X, person X should still be rewarded.