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Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« on: May 21, 2012, 06:08:18 pm »
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Hello atarnotes!
My teacher has briefly explained what is going on this year with Folio Scaling, but I'm unsure how it works. Basically all I've gathered from this is that I need to obtain a certain score in the GAT to keep my folio at it's raw score.

Sorry, I seem rather ignorant on the matter, but if anyone could fill me in on how the GAT affects my folio this year, it would be much appreciated. I do understand how the GAT affects other subjects and my overall score, but not so much Studio Arts.

Thanks!
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 08:22:49 pm »
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I really don't think the GAT's going to have a huge impact, if any, on your folio study score; the stuff in the GAT that they pass off as 'art theory' really isn't relevant to what you have to do to complete your folios, and it'd be pretty unfair if there were to be some influence from the GAT on your study score for studio. Folio's should stay at their raw score regardless of how your teacher marks them, the only time when they could change is if your school has external examiners come in to assess the way your teacher's marked the folios, and the marks could be changed accordingly. 
From what I remember from VCE last year, the GAT really only comes into the equation if you're looking at special consideration or derived study scores for your subjects, so you really don't need to worry about the GAT having an impact on your studio study score at all :)
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 09:11:51 pm »
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I really don't think the GAT's going to have a huge impact, if any, on your folio study score; the stuff in the GAT that they pass off as 'art theory' really isn't relevant to what you have to do to complete your folios, and it'd be pretty unfair if there were to be some influence from the GAT on your study score for studio. Folio's should stay at their raw score regardless of how your teacher marks them, the only time when they could change is if your school has external examiners come in to assess the way your teacher's marked the folios, and the marks could be changed accordingly. 
From what I remember from VCE last year, the GAT really only comes into the equation if you're looking at special consideration or derived study scores for your subjects, so you really don't need to worry about the GAT having an impact on your studio study score at all :)
Oh okay, that's relieving!
Although my teacher said there is a new system this year that involves the GAT in a different way then it has in previous years. Something along the lines of "if you don't score highly in the visual arts section of the gat, your folio and SS will be scaled appropriately, relative to that mark" (for normal scaling, not special consideration). Which is incredibly concerning, because I am fairly certain I can get much, much higher marks in the subject then I would've in the GAT.
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 11:56:38 am »
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Oh okay, that's relieving!
Although my teacher said there is a new system this year that involves the GAT in a different way then it has in previous years. Something along the lines of "if you don't score highly in the visual arts section of the gat, your folio and SS will be scaled appropriately, relative to that mark" (for normal scaling, not special consideration). Which is incredibly concerning, because I am fairly certain I can get much, much higher marks in the subject then I would've in the GAT.

I really don't think that would be the case, seriously, if it is, that's effed up! To be perfectly honest, most people don't even give much consideration to the GAT (I definitely was in that category, along with a majority of my school's yr12 cohort), so to have it affect scaling of folios/exams is ridiculously unfair. I'm thinking there might have been some miscommunication between your teacher and whoever he/she has gotten that information from, because it just doesn't seem right. Although whenever I see my studio teacher from last year again, I'll be sure to bring that up and see if she says the same thing.
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 12:02:29 pm »
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Oh okay, that's relieving!
Although my teacher said there is a new system this year that involves the GAT in a different way then it has in previous years. Something along the lines of "if you don't score highly in the visual arts section of the gat, your folio and SS will be scaled appropriately, relative to that mark" (for normal scaling, not special consideration). Which is incredibly concerning, because I am fairly certain I can get much, much higher marks in the subject then I would've in the GAT.

I really don't think that would be the case, seriously, if it is, that's effed up! To be perfectly honest, most people don't even give much consideration to the GAT (I definitely was in that category, along with a majority of my school's yr12 cohort), so to have it affect scaling of folios/exams is ridiculously unfair. I'm thinking there might have been some miscommunication between your teacher and whoever he/she has gotten that information from, because it just doesn't seem right. Although whenever I see my studio teacher from last year again, I'll be sure to bring that up and see if she says the same thing.
Well, this is exactly the same reaction my teacher had. She said it was completely unfair that they are doing it like that. It may be my school though, because we "can't afford" to have VCAA examiners check out our folios for marking (or something along those lines) so they are marked internally and then our GAT score is placed next to that internal mark and it is scaled appropriately (which is absolute bullshit, seeming as though my first folio was 28/30, and i doubt i'll get  a 50/50 for the visual arts/english section of the GAT).
It just frustrates me that we could be scaled for something that no-one else in the state gets affected by.
Don't quote me on these rules, all I know is that this is happening and it affects us majorly if we screwed up the GAT.

And that would be great if you could get another studio teachers opinion on this! It's got me very confused and anxious.
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 10:16:02 pm »
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Well especially considering how vital folios are to the subject, it is ridiculously harsh if it's true. I guess it's motivation in a way though for you to do your absolute best in the subject, to compensate if there were any ill-effects from the GAT. I really think this is suss though, I would think that it's VCAA's responsibility to pay the examiners considering that they're employed by VCAA to mark folios o.O
Seriously, if this were the case, then schools out in bloody woop woop and a lot of the poorer schools out there in Victoria are screwed. To me at least it doesn't seem right, and you're probably entitled to complain if it does affect your score at all.

I'll get back to you before the end of this coming term for sure, just don't know when I'd have time in my uni timetable to head to my old school and speak to her.
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 10:33:15 pm »
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Though i don't do studio arts, i doubt the GAT would have such a tremendous impact, it does affect scaling a little bit, but not much, and based more on overall cohort performance generally

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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2012, 09:07:44 am »
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Well especially considering how vital folios are to the subject, it is ridiculously harsh if it's true. I guess it's motivation in a way though for you to do your absolute best in the subject, to compensate if there were any ill-effects from the GAT. I really think this is suss though, I would think that it's VCAA's responsibility to pay the examiners considering that they're employed by VCAA to mark folios o.O
Seriously, if this were the case, then schools out in bloody woop woop and a lot of the poorer schools out there in Victoria are screwed. To me at least it doesn't seem right, and you're probably entitled to complain if it does affect your score at all.

I'll get back to you before the end of this coming term for sure, just don't know when I'd have time in my uni timetable to head to my old school and speak to her.
I sure hope it's just a motivation to do well. I mean I try my hardest to keep consistent and high marks, however if the GAT turns my 28/30 into a 25/30, I will be really really pissed off.
It's not right at all, our schools are disadvantaged and we deserve a fair, grounded education just like all the schools in Melbourne CBD.
I will complain if it affects my score dramatically; definitely.

That's okay if you can't, I'll talk to my teacher next week and see how it works and get back to you.

 
Though i don't do studio arts, i doubt the GAT would have such a tremendous impact, it does affect scaling a little bit, but not much, and based more on overall cohort performance generally

Studio Arts for my school apparently follows a different set of rules in comparison to subjects like English etc. (apparently  >:()
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Re: Studio Art GAT Scaling.
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 10:46:36 pm »
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I'm doing studio arts 3/4 this year and I also remember my teacher telling me that they are doing it differently this year. I remember her mentioning the GAT and something else but of course I've forgotten.. But I can say I know what your talking about and I don't want it to affect my folio either!