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« on: June 05, 2012, 03:52:16 pm »
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does atomic mass of the atom determine the 1/cm value not electronegativity?

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Re: IR
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 04:50:07 pm »
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does atomic mass of the atom determine the 1/cm value not electronegativity?

They are related. The frequency (which is the same as the wavenumber) is calculated from the force constant and the masses. Electronegativity cannot be used directly to calculate the force constant, but I would imagine it may have some effect on IR bands.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 08:44:38 pm »
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while we're on the topic of IR.... does ethane absorb IR radiation? or propane?

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 09:36:00 pm »
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yes C-H bond will be present and the fingerprint region

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 09:46:03 pm »
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And C-C! (:
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 10:58:49 pm »
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ahhhhhhh yes u got me :p lol

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Re: IR
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 12:54:30 am »
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yes C-H bond will be present and the fingerprint region
The C-H bond shows strong absorption at ~2950 cm-1, this peak is present in all C-H containing compounds.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 04:21:06 pm »
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yeah I understand that, but i'm just a bit confused because i thought only molecules with dipole moments will absorb IR? does ethane have a dipole moment?  :-\

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 05:42:14 pm »
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yeah I understand that, but i'm just a bit confused because i thought only molecules with dipole moments will absorb IR? does ethane have a dipole moment?  :-\

That's talking about bond dipole moments, not overall (molecular) dipole moment. If you consider the C-H bond by itself, it has a dipole moment.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 10:10:00 pm »
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Why don't N2 (nitrogen gas), and also molecules without dipole moments in general, absorb infared radiation?
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Re: IR
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 04:28:49 am »
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Why don't N2 (nitrogen gas), and also molecules without dipole moments in general, absorb infared radiation?

There is no bond dipole moment.
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