Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

October 21, 2025, 06:47:53 pm

Author Topic: Question about relevance  (Read 926 times)  Share 

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

t35t

  • New South Welsh
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 85
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Penola Catholic College
Question about relevance
« on: July 25, 2012, 06:15:20 pm »
0
Hi,

I was looking through a book, and I found this equation:
pH=pKa +log[proton acceptor]/proton donor

derived from Ka=[H+][A-]/[HA]

with regards to the titration curve for weak acids, buffers etc where -log[H+] and -logKa has been substituted for pKa?

I know it looks like a silly question, but honestly, after the ridiculousness of unit 3 exams, and the KBT exam, i honestly thought that this equation seemed too important to forget, and I had a slight feeling that it will eventually appear down the track where I might be asked to calculate say, the ratio of the concentration of acetate and acetic acid of a system (for a buffer) required for a certain pH.

So, for people who know, I was wondering if this wouldever come in handy? If it's worth looking into more, or if I should just ignore it?

Jenny_2108

  • Guest
Re: Question about relevance
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 08:32:15 pm »
0
I might be asked to calculate say, the ratio of the concentration of acetate and acetic acid of a system (for a buffer) required for a certain pH.
So, for people who know, I was wondering if this wouldever come in handy? If it's worth looking into more, or if I should just ignore it?

If the question gives you the pH of solution, you can calculate [H+]= 10^-pH

From the databooklet, you can get Ka of acetic acid=1.7*10^-5

So the ratio of the concentration of acetate and acetic acid= Ka/[H+]= 1.7*10^-5/10^-pH


t35t

  • New South Welsh
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 85
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Penola Catholic College
Re: Question about relevance
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 10:03:27 pm »
0
o thanks!!!

I was wondering then, if you could help me with this question:
"calculate the ratio of the concentration of acetate and acetic acid required in a buffer system of pH 5.30"

Jenny_2108

  • Guest
Re: Question about relevance
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 10:13:44 pm »
0
o thanks!!!

I was wondering then, if you could help me with this question:
"calculate the ratio of the concentration of acetate and acetic acid required in a buffer system of pH 5.30"

pH=5.30 => [H+]= 10^-5.30

Ratio= 1.7*10^-5/10^-5.30= 3.39

t35t

  • New South Welsh
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 85
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Penola Catholic College
Re: Question about relevance
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 10:49:18 pm »
0
Thanks again for your help!
Sorry for sounding silly, but...  I'm wondering about the set up of the ratio/arrangement-
ratio= ka/[H+]-> so, we use the Ka of acetic acid over the extent of it's ionisation to acetate [H+] in the mixture?

Jenny_2108

  • Guest
Re: Question about relevance
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2012, 06:25:54 pm »
0
Actually the formula of the ratio is derived from:

Ka= [CH3COOH-] [H+]/ [CH3COOH]  => [CH3COO-]/[CH3COOH]=Ka/[H+]