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Iniquity's Legal 3/4 Questions
« on: May 13, 2012, 04:52:35 pm »
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I know we've got that megathread as the sticky, but it'll be easier for me to find things if I keep it all confined to this thread. :)

So, to start off:

- How would I respond to the "Do you agree?" component of a question? Would it be like "_______ is effective/ineffective to an extent" or "I agree/disagree to an extent" or something else entirely?
- What's the difference between "evaluate" and "critically evaluate"? :o
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2012, 05:24:37 pm »
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I know we've got that megathread as the sticky, but it'll be easier for me to find things if I keep it all confined to this thread. :)

So, to start off:

- How would I respond to the "Do you agree?" component of a question? Would it be like "_______ is effective/ineffective to an extent" or "I agree/disagree to an extent" or something else entirely?
- What's the difference between "evaluate" and "critically evaluate"? :o

Every single 'discussion' question has basically the same structure:

a. Short opinion (yes, no, maybe, sometimes, I agree, I disagree, I partly agree, I mostly disagree, etc).
b. Reasons (strengths, weaknesses, can, can't, effective, ineffective, advantages, disadvantages, sometimes reforms, short relevant examples, etc).
c. Short opinion restated.

'Discussion' questions are broadly: evaluate, critically evaluate, analyse, discuss, to what extent, examine, critically examine, comment on, do you agree...give reasons for - am I missing any??

Treat them all essentially the same. Give an opinion, give reasons for both sides of the argument (don't need to weight each side equally), then restate your opinion. At least one point per mark; more preferably.

The exact nature of the reasons (strengths, weaknesses, reforms, examples, limitations, abilities, etc) will depend on the question, but the main thing is to not over-complicate it. Ignore those people who try to stress you out by insisting there is a real difference between 'evaluate' and 'critically evaluate' - silliness!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 12:53:53 pm »
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Thanks so much! :)

How many marks would a question on the definition of the doctrine of precedent range from?
Also, does anyone have any questions on the process of a bill through parliament (AOS1) with mark allocations? I was looking through the study design a few days ago and realised that's probably my weakest point.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 01:58:56 pm »
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My pleasure!

With DOP, it depends. Explaining the operation of it (incl RODD) maybe 6 marks, give or take? Individual questions on it (such as one a couple of years ago asking why the hierarchy is necessary for the DOP to operate) maybe 1-3 marks each; but *evaluations* of the DOP and courts using it to make law in general can easily run 4-8 marks.

With passage of a bill, I posted a whole list a while back on this thread: Got an outcome on the Australian parliamentary system

Best prep, though: write perfect 1-2 mark answers on each stage, then one overview answer for around 4 marks. Learn them: insert where needed!
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Re: Iniquity's Legal 3/4 Questions
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 09:38:00 am »
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With passage of a bill, I posted a whole list a while back on this thread: Got an outcome on the Australian parliamentary system
Oops, I completely forgot about that. :P I'll try and post up a few responses for feedback after I've finished my Revolutions SAC tomorrow :)

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 10:19:18 pm »
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I'd appreciate it if you could look over these responses and suggest how I could improve them :)

Identify two features of the relationship between courts and parliament in the law-making process. (2 marks)
The laws made by courts can be codified by parliament, as demonstrated by the High Court's 1992 decision in the Mabo case, which was confirmed by parliament through the Native Title Act (1993). In addition, courts can interpret and give meaning to words in laws made by parliament. An example of this is the Studded Belt Case (1993), when the Supreme Court interpreted the meaning of "regulated weapon".

"The operation of the doctrine of precedent relies upon the existence of a hierarchy of courts."
Explain the above statement. (2 marks)

Binding precedents (and therefore the doctrine of precedent) cannot operate without a hierarchy of courts - precedents are only binding upon cases with similar facts in lower courts in the same hierarchy. Persuasive precedents may be decisions made in earlier cases in the same or a lower level in the court hierarchy. Without a hierarchy of courts, the doctrine of precedent could not exist because it would be impossible to determine whether a precedent was binding or persuasive.

To what extent are judges limited in their ability to make law? Justify your answer. (6 marks)
Judges are able to make law, but their ability to do so is restricted. They are usually conservative, and believe that law-making is parliament's responsibility (as Justice Mason explained in the Trigwell case). However, judges are able to act radically and make common law that matches changes in society's values (judicial activism). An example of this is the High Court's decision in the Mabo case in 1992.

The doctrine of precedent can also limit judges' ability to make laws. Judges may be bound by outdated precedents that no longer reflects society's values and may also be unjust. These precedents do, however, ensure there is consistency and predictability - similar cases will have the same outcome. Judges are also able to reverse, overrule, distinguish, or disapprove of these precedents. For example, a judge may avoid a precedent by differentiating between the facts of both cases; if they are not similar, the precedent does not need to be followed.

Another reason that judges are limited in their ability to make law is that courts may only make law "ex post facto" (after a case has been brought before it). As opposed to parliament, courts cannot make laws in anticipation of future problems.

Furthermore, judges are limited law-makers as they do not have resources such as the VLRC to investigate public opinion. This means that they are free from political bias and public influence, but also that they may make laws which the public dislike. For example, the 1985 court decision in the rape in marriage case was met with uproar, as society's values had changed since the time when the precedent was set.

As such, judges are certainly able to make law, but they are somewhat limited in their ability to do so.

Are these the correct definitions of RODD? We've been asked to give roughly one sentence-definitions on each aspect, but I'm not quite sure how best to condense everything.
Reverse: When a case is appealed, judges in a superior court can create a new precedent by reversing decisions made in lower courts.
Overrule: Judges in superior courts can overrule a precedent set in a lower court by choosing not to follow it, and by creating a new precedent instead.
Distinguish: If the main facts of two cases vary, judges can choose to distinguish the current case from the earlier one and create a new law or follow a different precedent.
Disapprove: In their "obiter dictum" statements (said "by the way"), judges may express their dislike of precedents they are bound to or following to ensure consistency, which may prompt parliament to creating overriding laws.

Explain the difference between overruling a decision and reversing a decision. (2 marks) Really uncertain about this one!
Reversing a precedent is usually done upon appeal by a higher court, and involves judges in a superior court reversing a decision made in a lower court. By contrast, overruling a decision involves a superior court creating a precedent in a new case.

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 04:00:00 pm »
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I'd appreciate it if you could look over these responses and suggest how I could improve them :)

Identify two features of the relationship between courts and parliament in the law-making process. (2 marks)
The laws made by courts can be codified by parliament, as demonstrated by the High Court's 1992 decision in the Mabo case, which was confirmed by parliament through the Native Title Act (1993). In addition, courts can interpret and give meaning to words in laws made by parliament. An example of this is the Studded Belt Case (1993), when the Supreme Court interpreted the meaning of "regulated weapon".

"The operation of the doctrine of precedent relies upon the existence of a hierarchy of courts."
Explain the above statement. (2 marks)

Binding precedents (and therefore the doctrine of precedent) cannot operate without a hierarchy of courts - precedents are only binding upon cases with similar facts in lower courts in the same hierarchy. Persuasive precedents may be decisions made in earlier cases in the same or a lower level in the court hierarchy. Without a hierarchy of courts, the doctrine of precedent could not exist because it would be impossible to determine whether a precedent was binding or persuasive.

To what extent are judges limited in their ability to make law? Justify your answer. (6 marks)
Judges are able to make law, but their ability to do so is restricted. They are usually conservative, and believe that law-making is parliament's responsibility (as Justice Mason explained in the Trigwell case). However, judges are able to act radically and make common law that matches changes in society's values (judicial activism). An example of this is the High Court's decision in the Mabo case in 1992.

The doctrine of precedent can also limit judges' ability to make laws. Judges may be bound by outdated precedents that no longer reflects society's values and may also be unjust. These precedents do, however, ensure there is consistency and predictability - similar cases will have the same outcome. Judges are also able to reverse, overrule, distinguish, or disapprove of these precedents. For example, a judge may avoid a precedent by differentiating between the facts of both cases; if they are not similar, the precedent does not need to be followed.

Another reason that judges are limited in their ability to make law is that courts may only make law "ex post facto" (after a case has been brought before it). As opposed to parliament, courts cannot make laws in anticipation of future problems.

Furthermore, judges are limited law-makers as they do not have resources such as the VLRC to investigate public opinion. This means that they are free from political bias and public influence, but also that they may make laws which the public dislike. For example, the 1985 court decision in the rape in marriage case was met with uproar, as society's values had changed since the time when the precedent was set.

As such, judges are certainly able to make law, but they are somewhat limited in their ability to do so.

Are these the correct definitions of RODD? We've been asked to give roughly one sentence-definitions on each aspect, but I'm not quite sure how best to condense everything.
Reverse: When a case is appealed, judges in a superior court can create a new precedent by reversing decisions made in lower courts.
Overrule: Judges in superior courts can overrule a precedent set in a lower court by choosing not to follow it, and by creating a new precedent instead.
Distinguish: If the main facts of two cases vary, judges can choose to distinguish the current case from the earlier one and create a new law or follow a different precedent.
Disapprove: In their "obiter dictum" statements (said "by the way"), judges may express their dislike of precedents they are bound to or following to ensure consistency, which may prompt parliament to creating overriding laws.

Explain the difference between overruling a decision and reversing a decision. (2 marks) Really uncertain about this one!
Reversing a precedent is usually done upon appeal by a higher court, and involves judges in a superior court reversing a decision made in a lower court. By contrast, overruling a decision involves a superior court creating a precedent in a new case.

Okay, this is just in my opinion - how I would mark them.

Q1 - The first one is done well, but the second would be better if you said what meaning had been given, to link the example fully to your answer.

Q2 - I think it's good.

Q3 - I think you make some great points, but listing RODD like that is never desirable. Mention options available for departure in general by all means, but spend a bit more time using 1-3 of them in detail (all four isn't necessary). In general, though, I think you have a good balance between big-picture eval and content detail.

Q4 - The only difference is that one is on appeal and the other isn't! I don't know how you can get 2 marks out of that, sorry. Because you're nervous you've gotten fuzzy with your wording, though - don't get vague when you're worried. For example, you've included "usually" into the reversing definition, when you've shown in your prior definition that you *know* it's always.

RODD - Try not to ever use the word you're defining *in* the definition. Replace it with 'overriding', 'replacing', 'changing', 'differentiating', etc. I also think you should differentiate more clearly between what the judge does and what the impact is - eg in overruling they are a higher court and thus not bound by the precedent, so they create their own ratio that replaces the original precedent.

Final point: With disapproving, you have lower courts expressing their disapproval of a *binding* precedent in their obiter, but this is not a method of departure as they still have to follow it; you also, therefore, have courts at the same level disapproving the precedent and creating their own ratio because they are not bound... but don't have the authority to properly overrule the original one, either.

Final, final point! The main facts are the "material facts".
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 05:34:37 pm »
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I don't know how you can get 2 marks out of that, sorry.
Yeah, I didn't really get that one either - I think it was a textbook question rather than a past exam one.

RODD - Try not to ever use the word you're defining *in* the definition. Replace it with 'overriding', 'replacing', 'changing', 'differentiating', etc. I also think you should differentiate more clearly between what the judge does and what the impact is - eg in overruling they are a higher court and thus not bound by the precedent, so they create their own ratio that replaces the original precedent.
I'll give those another go then! Hopefully it's not worse than before :P I don't know if I've linked the judges/impact properly though.
Reverse: Upon appeal, judges in a higher court are able to change a decision made in a lower court by replacing it and creating a new precedent.
Overrule: Judges in a superior court can override precedents, as they are not bound by them, and are able to set their own precedent to replace the original one.
Distinguish: Judges are able to differentiate between the material facts of the current case and the earlier case in which the precedent was set, meaning that they are not bound by the precedent and are therefore able to create a new precedent or follow a new law.
Disapprove: Although judges may express their dislike of a precedent in their obiter dictum statements, this is not a method of avoiding precedent in lower courts because they are still bound by precedents established in superior courts in the same hierarchy. At the same level, however, courts are not bound by precedent and may disapprove of precedents and create their own.

Final point: With disapproving, you have lower courts expressing their disapproval of a *binding* precedent in their obiter, but this is not a method of departure as they still have to follow it; you also, therefore, have courts at the same level disapproving the precedent and creating their own ratio because they are not bound... but don't have the authority to properly overrule the original one, either.
That part really helped, thanks!

Also, from Q3 - an attempt at a more detailed explanation of parts of RODD:
There are certain methods through which judges can avoid a precedent. Judges can distinguish between two cases by identifying differences between the current case and the earlier case in which the precedent was established. If the facts of both cases are not similar, then judges are not bound by the precedent and may create a new one. They are also able to reverse precedent. This occurs when a case is appealed, and judges in a superior court are able to replace the original precedent established in a lower court, and create a new precedent to be followed. In addition, judges can overrule precedents. Judges in a higher court can override the previous precedent, as they are not bound by it. They may then create their own ratio decidendi (reason for the decision), which replaces the original precedent and is followed in future cases.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2012, 09:18:46 pm »
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No, it's not past exam! From the previous 15 years or so, at any rate.

Love the new RODD definitions.

Really like the amended Q3 - if I could make any further comment it would be that it still borders on listing definitions. The explanations are great, but in a 'discuss' question like that everything should sound like it's responding spontaneously to the question! (even though we all know it's basically memorised)
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 07:09:32 pm »
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Alright, I'll work on that at some point :)

Would you mind if I PMed you some pre-prepared answers (from my teacher) to look over? I'd post them here, but she asked us not to distribute them publicly.

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2012, 10:50:54 pm »
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Finally motivated myself to do some more Legal questions!

Would it be better if I put corresponding strengths and weaknesses in one paragraph, or should I make a separate paragraph for each strength and each weakness?

1. A member of parliament recently declared that parliament has no weaknesses and should be the only lawmaker in Australia.

Critically evaluate parliament as a law-maker. In your answer describe one aspect of the relationship
between parliament and courts in law-making. (10 marks)


A reason that parliament is an effective law-maker is because its primary role is to make laws. This means that it has been able to develop a process to do so (which includes debates, three reading stages, and the consideration-in-detail), ensuring that changes to the law are informed and just. It also allows for laws to be scrutinised, and amendments made where necessary.

However, parliament can be an ineffective law-maker because this process can be slow. As such, law-reform may not always be consistent with society's values, especially when the upper house blocks bills (known as a hostile upper house). Conversely, the same party being in control of both houses will also make law-making inefficient - the upper house will become a "rubber stamp" in that it will merely approve legislation without adequate review, scrutiny, and consideration of the new law's impact on society. An example of this occurred in August 2007 - in a week, Howard's National/Liberal coalition passed 500 pages of law altering the lives of the Northern Territory's indigenous communities and controlling how $500 million was spent, thereby resulting in parliament not effectively reviewing laws.

Secondly, parliament is effective because it is democratically elected and therefore representative of the majority of voters. It is answerable to the public, as any government that does not uphold the values of the majority is likely to be voted out of office at the next election. Public opinion is able to be conveyed through a variety of methods, including petitions and rallies. For example, the SLAM rally on the 23rd of February 2010 provided an opportunity for the public to express their concerns about liquor licensing laws at live music venues. This was beneficial as it informed parliament that their bills may not have been consistent with public opinion.

Despite this, parliament is not always representative, as it may fear vocal minorities, particularly in controversial issues such as euthanasia and gay marriage. Parliament may fail to act at all if there are many varying opinions, and it is difficult to make laws that match the entire society's values. Moreover, ministers will generally vote along party lines (with their party's best interests in mind), rather than representing their electorate, thus limiting parliament's ability to represent society.

A third reason why parliament is effective at law-making is that it has resources which enable it to assess the need for change in the law and recommend changes. These include formal law-reform bodies such as the VLRC, as well as parliamentary committees and government departments. For instance, the VLRC conducted an investigation into abortion and a survey in 2005 found that 81% of the population believed that a woman should be able to decide whether or not she had an abortion. This meant that legislation prohibiting abortion was inconsistent with society's values, leading to parliament removing abortion from the Crimes Act in 2008 after receiving recommendations from the VLRC.

A limitation to this is that researching areas of law can be expensive and time-consuming. Law-making can be slowed drastically, and parliament may be unable to keep up with society's changing values. For example, research into IVF laws lasted for four years. Additionally, when a final report is submitted to parliament, parliament is under no obligation to follow the advice included - this means that when parliament does not act, time and money are wasted, and parliament's use of resources is not very effective.

Another reason that parliament is an effective law-maker is because it is the supreme law-making body. Parliament is able to make laws whenever it wishes, and can override laws made by courts or previous acts of parliament. One aspect of the relationship between parliament and courts in law-making is that parliament can abrogate court-made (or common) law. This was demonstrated in the rape in marriage case when the court followed an outdated precedent, inciting public uproar. Parliament then passed a law that was consistent with society's values, which is a strength because such laws are more likely to be accepted and followed.

However, parliament's effectiveness is restricted as its sovereignty is limited by the Australian Constitution. The Constitution prevents both the Commonwealth and the state parliaments from legislating on matters outside of their jurisdictions. For example, the Victorian Parliament may wish to coin their own separate currency, but they are unable to do so due to section 115 of the Constitution, which reserves this ability for the Commonwealth Parliament.

Lastly, parliament is an effective law-maker because it can make laws in futuro (in anticipation of society's future needs). For example, the carbon tax was imposed in August 2009. It aimed to avoid the issue of climate change by aiming for 20% of Australia's energy to come from renewable energy sources by 2020. Consequently, parliament's ability to make laws in futuro means it is able to divert potential problems before they can affect society.

It is also an ineffective law-maker in some respects, as parliament cannot predict everything. Some of society's issues may take parliament unawares - for instance, parliament did not foresee the possibility of a person changing their gender, which became an issue in the Kevin and Jennifer case. Parliament's effectiveness is therefore limited, as it did not predict that advances in technology would make this possible.

2. Distinguish between exclusive and residual powers. (2 marks)
Exclusive powers are the law-making powers granted to the Commonwealth in section 51 of the Constitution and are given only to the Commonwealth through other sections of the Constitution, whereas residual powers are the law-making powers of the states and are not included in the Constitution.

(Is that enough for 2 marks, or do I need to I provide examples?)

3. In Australia, methods and processes exist to enable a change to the division of law-making powers between the State and Commonwealth Parliaments.

Identify one method of changing constitutional power and analyse its impact on the division of law-making powers. (5 marks)


A referendum (a compulsory yes/no vote on a proposal) is a method of changing constitutional power, and the process is outlined in section 128 of the Constitution.

The impact that referendums have on the division of law-making powers between the State and Commonwealth Parliaments is limited. Only 8 out of 44 referendums have succeeded, as the double majority provision is very difficult to achieve. Of these, only 2 have concerned altering the division of law-making powers. Also, the referendum process in section 128 requires widespread support, which can often be difficult to achieve.

In spite of this, 8 out of 44 referendums have succeeded in changing the division of law-making powers. The difficulty of attaining the double majority provides for a more stable system as it prevents the government from changing the Constitution to benefit themselves, unless they have popular support. Referendums are also democratic, meaning that changes to the system cannot be implemented without the approval of those who it affects.

Overall, referendums are able to alter the division of law-making powers, but their ability to do so is limited.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 12:19:27 pm »
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When outlining the civil jurisdiction of the Magistrates' Court, do we need to say that all claims under $10, 000 must be referred to arbitration?

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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2012, 10:47:02 pm »
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When outlining the civil jurisdiction of the Magistrates' Court, do we need to say that all claims under $10, 000 must be referred to arbitration?

Yes, I would. I use to take the approach where if I was unsure as to the level of detail to include - I'd always write more, because it's better to be safe than sorry.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2012, 08:33:49 am »
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When outlining the civil jurisdiction of the Magistrates' Court, do we need to say that all claims under $10, 000 must be referred to arbitration?

Yes, I would. I use to take the approach where if I was unsure as to the level of detail to include - I'd always write more, because it's better to be safe than sorry.
Alright, thanks for the clarification. :)