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heyman

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Should i move schools?
« on: April 07, 2013, 02:05:19 pm »
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Im currently in year 11 and thinking about moving schools next year, since the school you're in affects your atar
the school i currently go to has a very weak cohort
should i move, giving away the "under-represented schools"  section when applying for seas?
« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 02:10:01 pm by heyman »

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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 02:14:07 pm »
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Do you mind telling the AN notes community what subjects you're doing? If they're popular subjects then your shouldn't have a problem finding a school that offers them. But you probably will have trouble finding a school that offers them where they don't clash with each other on the timetable for the school.

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 02:57:48 pm »
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subjects aren't a worry for me, as im doing popular subjects. My only concern is the sacrificing of a SEAS category ( for Access Melbourne in particular). is it worth the risk? + im hoping to knock off english and methods 3&4 this year

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 03:17:30 pm »
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If you are only concerned with moving schools, based on a SEAS category, maybe you should re-consider moving schools to begin with.

I'll be honest, I moved schools for Year 12, and, funny enough, it would mean that I was not applicable for a SEAS category. (Under-Represented School).

It didn't phase me at all, as my new school was more academically inclined. Need to rephrase here but it was a ATAR, with SEAS 'bonus points' would be lower than if I had ATAR + Moved to a new school.

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Not too sure if that makes sense, now that I read it. >_<
<- Scrapped all that, I can't seem to convey, very well, what is in my head. :P

But there are more factors to consider, besides the SEAS category. Is your new school considerably bigger/smaller than your current school? Do you know if it's more academic than your current school? Do you have friends at your new school? Do you know how long it will take to travel to school?

I considered all these points before I took into account the SEAS category and, to be blunt, the SEAS category was not even a factor, for me, in moving schools.


EDIT: I feel inclined to make my post have more 'meat' to it, as I was in the same position to you, more than a year ago. Hmm, if you want me to elaborate why I moved schools, sure. (I didn't want to add it here as I guess it would be considered 'straying off topic', in consideration to your question. But you should elaborate further, on why you want to move schools. Is it your teachers? Your peers?

Frankly, from what you have said, you are only considering moving school's based on a 'weak' cohort.  I did consider that but, for me, I said that I could just get Rank 1 in everything, if I were to stay at my old school. Hmm, it's a lot of pressure to do that as well. (Having talked to friends who did decide to stay at their school, rather than move.)

But it's like a double edged sword, if you do decide to move schools. (As my old school kept berating/parroting to me about, they wanted me to stay .. -_-).

If you do move to a more academic school, would you be able to keep up with the work? Could you manage being in a class full of students who want to learn and are not being forced there? (My old school was that most students in VCE did it for the 'Lols'. Not joking, they didn't care about who actually wanted to learn). For me, that was a very hard 'concept' to grasp in my head. :P. Even now, I still have difficulties with being surrounded by people who want to learn. xD

Also, a slightly minor point, but you will have to build new relationships with teachers. I found all my teachers to be simply amazing, save for the start of the year. They didn't really seem to like me, as I was new and trying to get used to everything. I noticed preferential treatment from the students, who were already at the school, compared to me. I was 'denied' work but when another student asked, she was given it. This is definitely going to vary from school to school but it took awhile for me to get over the apprehension of asking for more work and, soon enough, teachers liked me. (But I have a pretty boring personality, so maybe that took awhile for them to get used to) :P

tl:dr: You will notice a difference between schools. A lot of factors to consider and you should elaborate why you want to move schools and what you want to achieve from it.
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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 03:28:49 pm »
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subjects aren't a worry for me, as im doing popular subjects. My only concern is the sacrificing of a SEAS category ( for Access Melbourne in particular). is it worth the risk? + im hoping to knock off english and methods 3&4 this year
This is a tricky one, Access Melbourne is honestly a huge advantage knowing that you're guaranteed a placement for certain courses if you pass a certain requirement (Sci was 78 IIRC for 2012). Do you have SEA's for financial disadvantagement? Access Melbourne still applies to that (http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/pathways/access-melbourne/guaranteed-entry-access-melbourne-2012) and that would mean that you could move AND still be eligible for Access Melbourne.
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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 03:45:55 pm »
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@Kanon If the "disadvantaged financial background" section means having tax family benefit A, then yes my family has that
What are my chances of getting Access Melbourne with only qualifying for section then?

@Mr. Study the other school is smaller and more academic (only 4-5 people from my school last year received an atar of 90+)
and yeah the teachers at my school arent great, and im worried the overall average at my school will lower my results
 

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 04:10:05 pm »
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You're in luck!

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Disadvantaged financial background
If you are eligible for this category you may qualify for a guaranteed place at Melbourne.

You are eligible for this category if:

You are in receipt of a means-tested Commonwealth income support payment (such as Austudy, ABSTUDY, Youth Allowance etc.), or
Your parents are in receipt of Family Tax Benefit A, or
You are able to demonstrate how your disadvantaged financial background has affected you, and
The circumstances are long term.
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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 04:21:10 pm »
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does being eligible for two sections increase my chances of getting it, or does just being eligible for one mean i am guaranteed to get it?
I dont want to move schools and then not get Access Melbourne

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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 05:24:13 pm »
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Im currently in year 11 and thinking about moving schools next year
Don't move. Two of my friends moved this year and they found themselves worse off position than at my school. What would happen to you if this happened? You would fall apart and you don't want that in year 12 !!
since the school you're in affects your atar
This is not true. You said 4-5 people at your school got 90+, so it is possible. Just work hard, have goals and get as many external resources you can (AN can help with that)! :D
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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 06:15:49 pm »
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Don't buy into the crap about bad school == bad ATAR. You can still get an amazing ATAR at a bad school (dux of my school scored 98+, 5 other students in the 90s).

It's typically easier to get rank 1 in bad schools. So ultimately your scores won't be affected by everyone else. There's also less stress at bad schools since there isn't crazy competition.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 06:24:07 pm »
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Don't buy into the crap about bad school == bad ATAR. You can still get an amazing ATAR at a bad school (dux of my school scored 98+, 5 other students in the 90s).

It's typically easier to get rank 1 in bad schools. So ultimately your scores won't be affected by everyone else. There's also less stress at bad schools since there isn't crazy competition.

+1, I go to a pretty shit school (well about average) and dux scored 99.85

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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2013, 06:53:33 pm »
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I know it may seem like it sometimes but VCE isn't some evil system conspiring against you at every turn. Its work in, results out, its so much more true in VCE than in uni too. If you work hard, you will do well. First, i thought it didnt matter, i knew nothing.  Then i moved on to looking at all the making schemes and scaling systems and thought it mattered heaps. Once i knew so much about them, it came full circle again, i realised, on a fundamental level, it doesn't matter heaps. It's work in, results out.

I live in the dodgier parts of the west side. I went to a so-so school and i did fine. Some of my friends went to a school where a kid burnt down one of the buildings and another time parents of a child showed up with baseball bats to whack the kid that pissed off their kid. Pretty rough place, both my school and their school were below average in stats. You know what though? I did fine, they did fine, they got 90s.

You can do well anywhere, in the end, the common denominator is you and you alone.

I wouldn't advise you to move schools. What about all your friends? 11-12 isn't just study and getting that score. If you're miserable, what does it matter? 11-12 were honestly some of the most fun, best years ive ever had and i'm into my 3rd year of uni now as well, i still look back on VCE as being good if not better in some ways. I'd stay where you are if i were you, making new friends, adjusting, etc will all be hard.

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Re: Should i move schools?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2013, 07:16:09 pm »
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thanks guys

i think i'll stay