Section B Style Practice Question

[HossRyams]

Can someone please help me with this question / what ideas would you bring into this?

Stimulus:
It is impossible to live a pleasant life without living wisely and honourably and justly, and it is impossible to wisely and honourably and justly without living pleasantly. Whenever any one of these are lacking, when, for instance, the man is not able to live wisely, though he lives honourably and justly, it is impossible for him to live a pleasant life.

Question:
What role do wisdom, honour and justice play in the good life? Discuss with reference to Simon Weil and at least one of the other philosophers studied in this unit.

I'm having trouble especially with describing Weil in relation to wisdom - or can I just say she does not see it as a need and perhaps to her, living pleasantly can be done without it, provided being just and having honour is fulfilled?

Also I plan to discuss Aristotle as my other philosopher. I was thinking about how he counts wisdom as a good that is sought for the sake of itself albeit it is still subordinate to the chief good. Furthermore he claimed honour could not have been the chief good because it requires the recognition of other people... But does that mean he doesn't think it's necessary for a pleasant life? Not sure, haha.

Thanks in advance

[thepikanation]

Hey, I think I could offer some advice, but don't hold me to it!!

For the "wisdom" section in relation to Weil, I'm thinking you might want to have a look at the Freedom of Opinion need of the soul. I think you could make a link between the "choice" from Weil, and the choice through reason (which could be interchanged as wisdom) with Aristotle. The limitation of choice seems to show a lack of necessity of wisdom in Aristotle's sense of the word. Maybe it could have a positive link when it comes to theoretical speculation, but I'm unsure as to how you could argue that.

For the Aristotle question of honour, my interpretation is that honour is not the chief good. Happiness is the chief good, therefore it is self-sufficient, which means that you need nothing else. This would include honour, for all that is needed for happiness is to be living well and faring well. Neither of these include honour, for you need not to have honour to exercise reason well, which is to be living well, nor do you need honour to be faring well, as a lack of honour does not represent misfortune.

I hope this helps, and that it's not too late!!!

[Dejan]

pm Aurelian, he is a beast at Philosophy

[HossRyams]

Hey, I think I could offer some advice, but don't hold me to it!!

For the "wisdom" section in relation to Weil, I'm thinking you might want to have a look at the Freedom of Opinion need of the soul. I think you could make a link between the "choice" from Weil, and the choice through reason (which could be interchanged as wisdom) with Aristotle. The limitation of choice seems to show a lack of necessity of wisdom in Aristotle's sense of the word. Maybe it could have a positive link when it comes to theoretical speculation, but I'm unsure as to how you could argue that.

For the Aristotle question of honour, my interpretation is that honour is not the chief good. Happiness is the chief good, therefore it is self-sufficient, which means that you need nothing else. This would include honour, for all that is needed for happiness is to be living well and faring well. Neither of these include honour, for you need not to have honour to exercise reason well, which is to be living well, nor do you need honour to be faring well, as a lack of honour does not represent misfortune.

I hope this helps, and that it's not too late!!!

Thanks for your reply!! My SAC is on Monday, and since we received the stimulus before hand since our teacher thought it'd be too hard to do it on the spot yet, I've written most of my essay. Just editing it now!!

Thanks though, I agree with the honour part with regards to Aristotle - I wrote that actually

For Weil and wisdom, my only idea was when she talked about order being akin to wisdom in her discussion of the need for Order. But I never thought of Freedom of Opinion for this, so thanks for the idea! Also for wisdom and Aristotle I thought about how he said it was a good in itself but it was also sought for the chief good, and also thought about practical wisdom, and how he said a man with practical wisdom would exercise shit in accordance to virtue (I forget the quote, mind my language lmao)

SO YES THANKS!!

[thepikanation]

Thanks for your reply!! My SAC is on Monday, and since we received the stimulus before hand since our teacher thought it'd be too hard to do it on the spot yet, I've written most of my essay. Just editing it now!!

Thanks though, I agree with the honour part with regards to Aristotle - I wrote that actually

For Weil and wisdom, my only idea was when she talked about order being akin to wisdom in her discussion of the need for Order. But I never thought of Freedom of Opinion for this, so thanks for the idea! Also for wisdom and Aristotle I thought about how he said it was a good in itself but it was also sought for the chief good, and also thought about practical wisdom, and how he said a man with practical wisdom would exercise shit in accordance to virtue (I forget the quote, mind my language lmao)

SO YES THANKS!!

Haha it's good to hear I'm not too late! Even if what I said was a bit "Weil-g" (a joke our class came up with that completely destroyed the meaning of the word vague forever).

That's good that the teacher gave you the stimulus! I know ours would never be so kind XD It's all exam type stuff we do all year! D: It can get a bit strenuous to prepare for, so much we have to know...

"and how he said a man with practical wisdom would exercise shit in accordance to virtue" Do you mean something along the lines of performing the reason function well? (eg. Lyre Plater analogy).

Also I will never forgive you for such foul language! jks.

Hmmm, I'll have to read the order section again, that's something that could help in future haha. I know our teacher made a great focus on the Freedom of Opinion section, especially since it ties well for evaluation with Nietzsche, but I should definitely look back on the other needs of the soul.