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maths sac and morals
« on: May 29, 2013, 04:52:25 pm »
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We we had our analysis sac for methods. The weried thing was the teachers had given us the solutions attached to our practice sac soluctions. Most people by off chance like me had stuck the solution just incase and they were the exact awnsers to the sac. The thing that makes me mad was that our methods teacher actually knew that the solution were given to us so it wasnt a accident. So what I do tell the vce coordinators or ? My morals are telling me to tell the teacher but yeah so cheers for any advice

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 05:15:22 pm »
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Yes, tell the VCE coordinators at your school. Hearing about this kind of stuff is utterly disgusting, especially for the fact your teacher seemed completely aware that the solutions sheet was given to your class.

There are two reasons why you should tell someone about this:
1) It serves as an unfair disadvantage to those students who ACTUALLY worked out the answers with sheer knowledge.
2) It's cheating. You don't learn anything by cheating. SACs are meant to reveal the capabilities of each student and serves to simply verify whether or not students actually understand what has been covered in class. This becomes distorted when people start cheating as it's not a true evaluation of their strengths and weaknesses.

It's the right thing to do. You NEED to tell the teacher, for the sake of the other students and for the simple fact that it is wrong.

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 05:20:56 pm »
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The thing is the practice sac was very familiar to the actual sac so we had a ideas on how to do them. Becasue the solution only contained the soultions so there was no working out or anything shown. So even if you did copy the awnser you would only get 1 mark out of 3

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 05:23:50 pm »
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The thing is the practice sac was very familiar to the actual sac so we had a ideas on how to do them. Becasue the solution only contained the soultions so there was no working out or anything shown. So even if you did copy the awnser you would only get 1 mark out of 3

Oh! I understand what you mean now. I thought you were saying that the solutions WERE the ACTUAL answers to the SAC.

To be honest, if they weren't the same questions but modeled in a similar fashion then there is nothing you can really do. It only becomes a problem when it actually is the answer. Plus, you mentioned that it didn't explain HOW to answer the questions, so the solutions sheet wouldn't have been very beneficial when it came to the SAC.

Edit: You've lost me Yathi. Were the solutions the answers to the SAC?
« Last Edit: May 29, 2013, 07:19:29 pm by Asymptote »

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 06:54:41 pm »
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Well, I'm a big one for doing what my morals tell me to, so if I were in your position, I'd tell the teacher if that would restore faith in yourself as a moral agent, even if nothing different comes about.
It also might have really skewed your SAC rankings in a way that could be disadvantageous as far as study scores go.
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Re: maths sac and morals
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 09:02:33 pm »
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If ALL the students in your school were given the same information as you, then it doesn't matter. If only your class was given the answers, then your teacher cheated, in which case the VCE coordinator should be told.