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Lear:
--- Quote from: informationenthusiast on December 29, 2018, 11:38:23 am ---compared to vce, is uni generally harder or easier??
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Not in uni just yet but here's a discussion where the exam taking side of uni in comparison to school was discussed.
https://atarnotes.com/forum/index.php?topic=182359.msg1083768#msg1083768
Bri MT:
--- Quote from: informationenthusiast on December 29, 2018, 11:38:23 am ---compared to vce, is uni generally harder or easier??
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This is really, really, really dependent on the person.
It's generally harder to get a x% mark, but expectations are different too. One of the big differences is that you have significantly more flexibility to decide how hard you want to work and what you want to focus on.
There's also variation between courses - for example, some require you to maintain a high average mark and others don't
Lear:
I understand that this is very subjective and year 12 is very different to university. But in terms of difficulty, what’s an equivalent ATAR to a university WAM of 75%? Again I know this won’t be very meaningful but i’m just trying to grasp how hard a 75% WAM is
EEEEEEP:
--- Quote from: Lear on December 30, 2018, 10:19:55 am ---I understand that this is very subjective and year 12 is very different to university. But in terms of difficulty, what’s an equivalent ATAR to a university WAM of 75%? Again I know this won’t be very meaningful but i’m just trying to grasp how hard a 75% WAM is
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Hi there :)
Different courses, subjects and electives have different difficulties.
You cannot make an equivalent of 75 WAM to any level of difficulty!
To add to that point ... some lecturers follow a bell curve, while some don’t.
Don’t think about difficulty.
Aaron:
--- Quote from: Lear on December 30, 2018, 10:19:55 am ---I understand that this is very subjective and year 12 is very different to university. But in terms of difficulty, what’s an equivalent ATAR to a university WAM of 75%? Again I know this won’t be very meaningful but i’m just trying to grasp how hard a 75% WAM is
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I have to agree EEEEEEP's comment above.
I achieved WAM's of 77 and 74 for my Bachelor of IT & MTeach respectively so my WAMs float around your query.
Put it this way: back when I did my VCE, my ATAR was only 65. If you take what you know about me out of the equation, you'd think that would be a bizarre number to compare to a WAM of 75+.
The point i'm trying to make is that a) the ATAR isn't really merit-based when we think about it, and b) university is an adult environment, a lot of things can change (e.g. environment with like minded people, personal circumstances etc). I know from my personal perspective that all it took was for me to be separated from my friendship group and to enter university alone basically to get my act together (in combination with a passion and love for the degree discipline I chose).
75 is not out of reach for anybody but it requires at least perseverance and effort. The interest & passion for your discipline is an added bonus and will make things easier. It's not going to just come to you by default and honestly it's not as easy as some would say - don't view 75 as "75%" because its an average which requires a significant chunk of your overall scores to be decent.
You just can't compare ATAR and university scores in the slightest. It's honestly one of the worst comparisons to make because there are so many factors at play. You can get a 90 ATAR and perform terribly. You can get a 65 ATAR (like I did) and achieve most of your uni scores above this. You'd be surprised what an environment where you are accountable both academically and financially, does to you. Hope this helps :)
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