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M_BONG

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How can "r" be negative?
« on: July 08, 2013, 03:15:05 pm »
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I'm doing polar coordinates now for GMA and the answer book said "r" is plus or minus a value.

How can this be so? I always thought radius or "r" had to be positive even if it was in the 3rd and 4th quadrant?

Sorry if this is a stupid question I didn't really pay attention in class for this topic.

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Re: How can "r" be negative?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 03:15:51 pm »
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"r" should always be positive, as it is a measure of the distance from an origin. The book has a typo I suspect.
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Re: How can "r" be negative?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 03:58:59 pm »
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I recall this problem from high-school, although its counter intuitive, it's not a typo in the textbook.

From memory, you worked it out something like this:

1) Consider the r cis(theta) without the negative.

2) Find the opposite of this ray.

Now, I can't recall how we defined the opposite, but if you do a few examples, you should be able to use this logic to solve that.

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Re: How can "r" be negative?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 04:00:15 pm »
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Perhaps it means in the opposite direction. (For specialist/students who know complex numbers: i.e which is in the opposite direction).

edit: Just saw Yeezus' post:

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Now, I can't recall how we defined the opposite, but if you do a few examples, you should be able to use this logic to solve that.

The opposite of is . If you are familiar with vectors this is like scalar multiplication by . If you are familiar with complex numbers this is multiplication by .
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Re: How can "r" be negative?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 04:38:02 pm »
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Perhaps it means in the opposite direction. (For specialist/students who know complex numbers: i.e which is in the opposite direction).

edit: Just saw Yeezus' post:

The opposite of is . If you are familiar with vectors this is like scalar multiplication by . If you are familiar with complex numbers this is multiplication by .

Yes, I thought this was it, but I wasn't 100% sure, good work.