VCE Stuff > VCE University Enhancement Programs

MUEP, UMEP of VCE chemistry

(1/3) > >>

Nato:
Hello,

i am in yr.11 (doing methods 1/2 and chem 1/2, and picking up spesh 3/4 next year). i have recevied some recommendations (from teachers) to try and do a 'uni math subject'. I just wanted to know if it would be worth doing either MUEP or UMEP over VCE chemsitry 3/4. i ask this in terms of the workload, time needed to be put into each subject (assuming i am equally capable in both), and which is 'easier' to score higher in.
Strategically, i want to drop chem 3/4 for next year and pick up uni maths, because i will be able to have methods, spesh, english AND physics (which i love, and put a lot of effort to) in my top 4. am i correct by saying this?
I just wanted some advice/info/feedback about my thoughts especially from those who were in similar situations.
On top of this i want to ask the pros and cons of doing MUEP or UMEP (which closer to where i live).

some extra info i would like to add is i am doing quite well in Methods, concepts easy to grasp. although i am not officially enrolled in gma, i do it on the side, and haven't really faced difficulties.

Thanks for reading

shadows:
I don't know a lot of people that doing Uni Chem compared to Uni Math.
What subject are you more stronger in?
I would suggest doing Uni Math seeing as it would really complement Physics, Spesh and Methods... xD.
Hang on, you are planning drop chem if doing uni math? Why not just do 5 subjects in year 12?

Did you do any 3/4s this year?

Alwin:
Hmm, Chemistry...
sorry! I thought you meant muep chem, umep chem or vce chem not enhancement vs chem in general! -sorry!UMEP Requirements
VCE requirements: Completion of Chemistry 3/4 and Mathematical Methods 3/4 in Year 11, or enrolment in Mathematical Methods 3/4 in Year 12 after completion of Chemistry 3/4 and Mathematical Methods 1/2 in Year 11.

I'm sorry, but I doubt they'll accept you. Mainly because in uni chem you learn why stuff happens not the superficial vce course


MUEP Requirements
Preparatory study: Chemistry
Completion of units 3 and 4 in Year 11 OR Concurrent enrolment in units 3 and 4 in Year 12

This is your only option for unichem of the two extension programs you mentioned, but you have do chem 3/4 next year as well, whereas you only want to do the MUEP chem. (so not possible either)

Now, uni maths:

1. Why drop chem? Do you not like it? Is it that you would prefer maths over chem? What courses are you looking into for uni?
    This is because some courses, eg med, have Chemistry as a prerequisite. Dropping chem could mean you miss out on your dream course

2. Hmm, UMEP or MUEP Maths. Both are similar for semester 1 (look at my sig if you're wondering how I know) but MUEP focusses more on series and calculus in semester 2
    The thing is, as you've quite rightly pointed out, an extension only counts as a fifth or sixth subject. Also, the marking system for UMEP is different, 90% of the assessment is in the form of the two exams at the end of the year, assignments are worth only 1.11%
    At MUEP, assignments are worth more (like 40% iirc) and the exam is... lets just say "not as hard" :P But, it's also a longer trip for you since you said that UMEP is closer to you.

BUT the stinger (sorry) is this:
UMEP MATHS Requirements
VCE requirements: Completion of Mathematical Methods 3/4 in Year 11 and enrolment in Specialist Mathematics 3/4 in Year 12, or concurrent enrolment in Mathematical Methods 3/4 and Specialist Mathematics 3/4 after completion of Mathematical Methods 1/2 and General Mathematics (Specialist Mathematics orientation) 1/2 in Year 11.

I think you can sit a test or something to prove you have all the knowledge of GMS 1/2 but not sure on that one. Sorry can't be more help on this problem


For more info:
Requirements for MUEP: http://www.monash.edu.au/extension/study-options/index.html
Requirements for UMEP: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/info/school-students/extension-program/subject-areas

Wish you all the best with your studies :)

Nato:
incredibly sorry for the confusion. i don't want to do any kind of university chemistry. when i said "UMEP or MUEP' over VCE chemistry, i was referring to uni maths only. very sorry for this.

Nato:
Btw, just so i can have a broad understanding of uni math, is there anyway to get 'assistance' or scholarships with MUEP maths ($900 is insane LOL)?

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page