overlap with specialist course?

[m@tty]

As I am intending to do MUEP maths next year I have some questions of you who have already attended this course.
How much will this help with specialist? and
How much time is expected/needed outside lecture and tutorial time?

Thank you.

[Toothpaste]

As I am intending to  do MUEP maths next year I have some questions of you who have already attended this course.
How much will this help with specialist? and
How much time is expected/needed outside lecture and tutorial time?

Thankyou

On campus? If so, one overview lecture at the start with all the "on-campus" (could be Monash Clayton, Caulfield Grammar (WH), Mazenod College ... where ever else if it has changed since 2008) people to get notes/timetable/info. Every week during the semester you'll have one tutorial/class for 2 hours (after school). For 2008 Monash Clayton Campus it was Thursday 4:30pm to 6:30pm. There is a revision lecture (again with all the other on campus people) at the end of semester to go over the material and prepare you for the exam.

You'll get assignments given to you with a set due date throughout the semester. I think it was four (FORGOT EXACT) assignments each semester. Honestly I did them the night before/during the day they were due, lol, don't do this. It's a bad habit.

The exam is three hours in length, held with other normal Monash students - usually at Caulfield Racecourse. There are two exams, mid year and end of year. You have your own student ID, access to libraries, Monash email, etc. If you continue with Monash afterwards you'll have the same account.

There's a bit of overlap with spesh near the start. I don't know if it helps ... more like complement. Depends how much work you put in maybe?
I think other unimath'ers might be able to answer this better because I was a massive bludger and hardly spent time on enhancement maths.

[m@tty]

Thank you Toothbrush, did you do on campus? That is what I intend to do.
It all sounds very good, is it organised well? enjoyable?
So you would say it extends or fits in(completes understanding) with specialist course?

[bekkchyeah]

As I am intending to  do MUEP maths next year I have some questions of you who have already attended this course.
How much will this help with specialist? and
How much time is expected/needed outside lecture and tutorial time?

Thankyou

On campus? If so, one overview lecture at the start with all the "on-campus" (could be Monash Clayton, Caulfield Grammar (WH), Mazenod College ... where ever else if it has changed since 2008) people to get notes/timetable/info. Every week during the semester you'll have one tutorial/class for 2 hours (after school). For 2008 Monash Clayton Campus it was Thursday 4:30pm to 6:30pm. There is a revision lecture (again with all the other on campus people) at the end of semester to go over the material and prepare you for the exam.

You'll get assignments given to you with a set due date throughout the semester. I think it was four (FORGOT EXACT) assignments each semester. Honestly I did them the night before/during the day they were due, lol, don't do this. It's a bad habit.

The exam is three hours in length, held with other normal Monash students - usually at Caulfield Racecourse. There are two exams, mid year and end of year. You have your own student ID, access to libraries, Monash email, etc. If you continue with Monash afterwards you'll have the same account.

There's a bit of overlap with spesh near the start. I don't know if it helps ... more like complement. Depends how much work you put in maybe?
I think other unimath'ers might be able to answer this better because I was a massive bludger and hardly spent time on enhancement maths.

Honestly, not much time outside of school was needed, really, you just need to set aside a bit of time to do the assignments which are not that bad (however, you can loose silly marks for drawing your graph in pencil ) but honestly, i find MUEP easier than Spesh It's much more straight forward work. (:

It was the same times for 2009, Thursdays 4:30-6:30.
And, there was 3 assignments for MAT1055 this year (:

To quote Mystikal:

However, for MUEP maths you only have to go once a week, (5 or 6 for the whole year) assignments is the only homework you have to do.  Semester one is heavily based on VCE methods/spesh. Semester 2 little less emphasis and you learn new things.

You should definetly do it .

[Toothpaste]

Thank you Toothbrush, did you do on campus? That is what I intend to do.
It all sounds very good, is it organised well? enjoyable?

Yep, at the actual Monash Uni Clayton Campus. It's where the fun's at, lol. The ones held at the respective schools seem to be dominated by the students from that host school, as expected.

They map out the program pretty well. MUEP maths is very "do-able". I'm pretty shithouse at maths compared to other MUEP maths kids, to be really honest, and I still got through quite easily. As for enjoyability, it's what you make of it. I thought it served as a good break from VCE classes.

I think it's less intense than UMEP maths in terms of the curriculum though. But hey, easy 5.5/5. Go for it if you have the interest/capacity to study the subject. You've got nothing to lose besides time (and probably a few hundreds of dollars in fees) - but if you weigh up the benefits like being able to experience uni level teaching/education, access to staff etc, the costs seem miniscule.

Some threads, possibly relevant (might've missed a few):
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,1013.0.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,2543.0.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,14429.0.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,3944.0.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,3981.0.html
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,7828.0.html

[Mao]

Wurd. Best subject EVER.

You HAVE to go to the classes on Clayton Campus, so you can have the honour to be taught by Mr Alan Couchman¹

Anyhow, to answer your questions:

1. Once you are in this, specialist will seems like child's play.
2. If you find it as much fun as I did, you will find most of your designated English-hw time become unplanned maths-for-fun time. But otherwise, not too much, it's very relaxed, and the exam is open book, 3 hours, and only 3 assignments a year that you take home and have about 2 weeks to complete [for EACH of them].

¹ This offer also includes free biscuits/corn chips, tea/coffee break. Offer may not last forever since Dr Hough (the coordinator) wants to teach the subject but is in and out of hospitals all the time.

[m@tty]

Sounds really good.
I've read some of the topics about him, he sounds like an awesome teacher.
Child's play? As in more fun? That can't be bad.

What is it compares to actual first year mathematics??

[Mao]

It is practically equivalent to MTH1030, first year calculus.

For people who have done specialist, the usual first year sequence of math is MTH1030 + MTH2010 (multivariable calculus). Hence the year's worth of enhancement math only credits you for ONE semester-long unit. This is partially due to the contact hours (2 per week) compared to a full unit at uni (for maths it is usually 5 or 6 per week), hence a semester's worth of coursework is dragged over a whole year.

The two units are done in sequence, MAT1055 and MAT1085.
MAT1055 is fairly simple, nothing incredibly hard, nothing incredibly interesting, nothing incredibly fun, just a fair bit of background work to get VCE kids from the methods level to the uni level (so fairly intensive curve sketching, differentiation, some matrices).
MAT1085 is where the fun stuff come in, methods of integration, series and sequences, ordinary differential equations <3