Specialist maths vs. Chemistry for engineering

[cevap]

This year im going into yr 11 and these are my subjects: english, methods, physics, chemistry, further(3&4), serbian. I have always loved maths and have done well in it before and i really want to do specialist in yr 12 but that means i have to drop a subject and i always thought of chemistry. I love methods and physics and i speak serbian at home and really enjoy the benefits of doing a language and im gonna finish further this year so it must be chem. But im a bit worried about uni prerequisites can someone tell me if chem is necessary for engineering courses at monash, melbourne etc. or can i get in with spec methods and physics. I really want to pick up spesh next year and am not a big fan of chem. Also i know a lot of my friends and teachers advise against people doing 3 maths is it really that bad?
Thanks

[All†Fiction]

Hey cevap,
That's great! It's always good to pursue a course you enjoy because you'll get a whole lot more out of it But have you thought of doing both (if you think you can handle it)? I know a few people who do 7 subjects in total for VCE (and 6 in year 12). But then again, if you dislike chem, then that may not be a good idea ...
Regarding prerequisites, I think the prerequisite for most engineering courses at monash is methods (someone confirm?)
As for melbourne, well that's a postgrad degree, so it's different again
People do do all three maths for vce. I think there are some people on AN who have done just that. Ask them? Perhaps the most important thing is that you enjoy them and can do well in them; you'll be stuck with them for an entire year after all!

[Greatness]

Specialist math will be much more relevant for engineering. It'll allow you to skip to the first year calculus unit. Depending on what engineering stream you want to take it may be beneficial to take chemistry as well. I'd recommend you take specialist.

[Alwin]

Well, there is a unit at Monash University (hopefully someone will know about melbourne uni too ) called "Mathematics for engineering" and is compulsory. The only thing is, you have to have undertaken Spesh with a reccommded but not inforced B+ average.

If you haven't, then you have to undertake Foundation Maths in semester 1 before you can take take "Mathematics for engineering". If you haven't done VCE Chem, then you would take Foundation Chemistry, but I don't think it stops you from any other units in first year hm hm. So looking at uni pathways, Spesh would defs be better

As for year 12, you can always do 7 subjects like ppl have recommended But, if you feel it will be detrimental then don't do it! Apart from the uni unit (subject) selection stuff, doing chem and physics and spesh and lote works to your advantage in the middle banding process. This is a process where doing those subjects give a small "bonus" to your atar when applying for university, but there is a limit to the "bonus" to your aggregate so I would check the VTAC guide first

GOOD LUCK WITH IT

~~ PS: My mate did 4 Maths in VCE. 3 Maths isn't that bad

[cevap]

Thanks for all the responses guys and yeh i will definetly pick up spesh next year now that i know about the uni classes, im not quite sure about doing 7 subjects it seems like a lot but i dont know ill see how this year goes. Ohh and i was checking uni sites and actually at melb uni the bachelor of science that leads to engineering says that instead of doing chem u can get in with english methods and spesh plus monash only requires english methods and physics so yeh thanks.

[alchemy]

Specialist math will be much more relevant for engineering. It'll allow you to skip to the first year calculus unit. Depending on what engineering stream you want to take it may be beneficial to take chemistry as well. I'd recommend you take specialist.

Seconded.

[All†Fiction]

doing chem and physics and spesh and lote works to your advantage in the middle banding process. This is a process where doing those subjects give a small "bonus" to your atar when applying for university, but there is a limit to the "bonus" to your aggregate so I would check the VTAC guide first

Hey Alwin, what's this? Never heard about it before; how does it work?
Thanks!

[Lasercookie]

Hey Alwin, what's this? Never heard about it before; how does it work?
Thanks!

http://www.vtac.edu.au/courses-inst/selection/middleband.html explains it pretty well.

If you look up a course on VTAC, you'll find a "middle-band" section where, when it comes to deciding offers below the clearly-in ATAR, they give students who have done this or that an advantage to further separate each student's ranking. Monash Engineering for example http://www.vtac.edu.au/CourseSearch/searchguide.htm?courseCode=2800328091 What considerations are taken will vary from course to course.

[All†Fiction]

Aha, thanks so much!