UoM Maths Thread

[lzxnl]

Someone wanted a maths thread. So here you go.

I'm going to kick start it. I love how the university allows us science students to do a maths diploma; as long as we do four maths subjects as part of the BSc, we get the rest of the diploma free.

[Stevensmay]

If you are in your first year of your degree, you will need to have achieved a study score of at least 35 in VCE Units 3 and 4 Mathematical Methods/Specialist Mathematics

Is this saying we need a 35 in Methods AND Spec, or just a 35 in at least one of them?

[lzxnl]

I think it means one of them only. Don't quote me though. You can always start the diploma in second year.

Majoring in physics with a maths diploma is probably more beneficial as a diploma in maths is eight subjects, while a physics major requires nine physics subjects (not including maths prereqs). A mathematical physics major won't let you do as much. However, physics + maths diploma will probably mean you'll have to extend your degree.

[vcestudent94]

Wow I never knew about that free diploma thing, seems really good. What are the advantages of doing a diploma in maths instead of just doing the major subjects through your degree as electives? Is it seen as any more of a qualification to employers?

[LeviLamp]

The diploma is basically extra subjects that allow you to gain a secondary qualification alongside your main degree; if I took a Diploma of Mathematics alongside my Zoology major I would graduate with a BSc (Zoology) and the diploma qualification in mathematics. If you're already doing a major in a mathematics field and don't want to do a non-mathematics major in your degree, the diploma is probably not very useful to you; you can't take the diploma in a maths field if your main major is already focused on one of the mathematics fields.

What you CAN do is credit maths subjects you've already done (up to four) to the diploma and then complete a major in something else such as Physics, Marine Biology, Geography or whatever your particular subject selections and interests lead you to do, while completing another four-ish maths subjects (you need eight in total for diploma completion) in your diploma. As a result, you come away with two qualifications rather than one. In your instance you would need to assure the university that your science major wasn't planned as mathematics, but rather engineering, to be accepted into the diploma (since they don't let maths majors take the course).

[vcestudent94]

Thanks for that. So if I can already fit a maths major into my regular degree (easily done with engineering) then it wouldn't really be of use of to me unless I want that added "diploma" qualification on my transcript? Just trying to decide if it's worth the extra work.

[charmanderp]

*nods head in approval*

[vcestudent94]

Is that in aproval of doing a diploma or the other stuff I said? 

[lzxnl]

Meh, I think I'll just major in mathematical physics. Seems like a lot less effort. I've also chosen my future subjects already, and there aren't any other maths subjects I'll need, so it would be kind of pointless.

Just out of curiosity, what do you plan on majoring in lzxnl?

My current plan consists of a chemical physics major with a diploma of maths, although that is subject to change.

Is that in aproval of doing a diploma or the other stuff I said? 

If you're like most people and only want to do a degree over 3 years, then you won't need a maths diploma. I'm overloading twice and doing two breadths over summer so I can fit the diploma in relatively comfortably.

[vcestudent94]

Yeah that's what I would do if I end up doing the diploma. Do you know the what the deadline for applying is by any chance? It says that you can apply anytime before your first strictly-diploma subject and then it says that the places are competitive so when would you get accepted?

[lzxnl]

I'm doing AM 1 but not Physics 1: Advanced. I did UMEP Physics last year so I don't need to do physics this year

[scribble]

woo dip math! <3

[~T]

Are you taking AM 1 or Physics: Advanced first semester? Might see you there ahah

I AM, FRIEND.

[scribble]

oh man, you guys are gonna have so much fun! im am1 that is, no one likes physics
but nah, am lectures were definitely my favorite thing about first year,

[~T]

oh man, you guys are gonna have so much fun! im am1 that is, no one likes physics
but nah, am lectures were definitely my favorite thing about first year,

WOOOOO I'm so pumped for AM now *excitement*

With the advanced stream of physics, have I been correctly lead to believe that it covers the same content as the other streams but it's more mathsy and rigorous and stuff? (I said "mathsy" so I think I'm still in the right thread)