Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

November 01, 2025, 04:20:06 pm

Author Topic: questions XD  (Read 1809 times)  Share 

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
questions XD
« on: April 30, 2014, 01:09:06 pm »
0
if some one could help me... it is very much appreciated thank you

given that f(x) = 1/ax^2 +bx +c where a<0 and b^2 = 4ac how does that graph look like?

keltingmeith

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 5493
  • he/him - they is also fine
  • Respect: +1292
Re: questions XD
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2014, 01:33:16 pm »
0
Firstly, is f(x) = 1/(ax^2) + bx + c or 1/(ax^2 + bx + c)?

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
Re: questions XD
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2014, 01:58:54 pm »
0
1/(ax^2 + bx + c) sorry

kinslayer

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 761
  • Respect: +30
Re: questions XD
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2014, 02:09:59 pm »
+2
If then the discriminant and therefore  will have exactly 1 solution, at .

If then .

With that information you should be able to draw a picture of the graph of . It's basically an upside down parabola with a turning point on the x-axis.

Now if , then has a vertical asymptote at and horizontal asymptote . It looks pretty much like an upside down version of the graph of which isn't surprising since the behaviour of the function is dominated by the term.

Clicky for graph:

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/m9vujyrmjs
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 02:12:45 pm by kinslayer »

Alwin

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 838
  • Respect: +241
Re: questions XD
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2014, 02:13:16 pm »
+3
hi :)

so first up, lets consider ax2 + bx + c.
  1. what does the b2=4ac mean?
answer
The discriminant is zero
  2. are there any x-ints? (they will become asymptotes
answer
Yes, but only one since discriminant is zero. Note that it will be x = -b/2a
  3. what does a<0 mean?
answer
upside down parabola

now we can guess at what 1/(ax2 + bx + c) will be like and we just use the general approach for reciprocal graphs :)
  eg at x-ints there are asymptotes, when |f(x)|=1 then |1/f(x)|=1, when |f(x)|<1 then |1/f(x)|>1, when |f(x)|>1 then |1/f(x)|<1 etc etc

hope it helps :)

EDIT: beaten
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 02:15:20 pm by Alwin »
2012:  Methods [48] Physics [49]
2013:  English [40] (oops) Chemistry [46] Spesh [42] Indo SL [34] Uni Maths: Melb UMEP [4.5] Monash MUEP [just for a bit of fun]
2014:  BAeroEng/BComm

A pessimist says a glass is half empty, an optimist says a glass is half full.
An engineer says the glass has a safety factor of 2.0

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
Re: questions XD
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2014, 04:47:55 pm »
0
thank you!!! i get it now

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
Re: questions XD
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2014, 04:50:44 pm »
0
what about this one please?
let z1 = cis(pi/4)
Write down the complex equation of the straight line which passess through the points z1 and -z1 in terms of conjugate z1?

this question was on the VCAA 2006 exam 2 q5aii)

kinslayer

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 761
  • Respect: +30
Re: questions XD
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2014, 06:11:42 pm »
+1
what about this one please?
let z1 = cis(pi/4)
Write down the complex equation of the straight line which passess through the points z1 and -z1 in terms of conjugate z1?

this question was on the VCAA 2006 exam 2 q5aii)

The set of points along the line from and is the set of points equidistant from both and . This is because we have a situation where the four points form a square (in general this is not true).

The equation is:

I have attached a picture which may help.

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
Re: questions XD
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2014, 06:19:06 pm »
0
i'm sorry can you please explain further?
i'm sorry i really stupid ...

kinslayer

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 761
  • Respect: +30
Re: questions XD
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2014, 06:42:58 pm »
0
i'm sorry can you please explain further?
i'm sorry i really stupid ...

No problem, this is not easy and I probably haven't explained it very well.

In the diagram I drew, the line joining to makes a right angle where it crosses the line from to . That means that the distance from the line to is the same as the distance from the line to .

The same thing is true for any other point along that line. So if is on the line, then .

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
Re: questions XD
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2014, 08:06:20 pm »
0
thank you thank you so much...
your explainations are great!!!

hyunah

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Marian College
Re: questions XD
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2014, 08:06:41 pm »
0
i have another vcaa question.

vcaa 2010 spesh exam 2 question 5d)

sorry and thank you and please
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 09:55:17 pm by hyunah »